Being Russia and Russian now

[zasad@]

I feel like there are two sides of this that are evil and that makes the rest of the world watching laugh. The west that talks badly about Russia is right, Russia is a beautiful nation that is ruled by a moron dictator and that causes plenty of people to die needlessly and the economy sucks and even if you manage to build everything on your own, you need export to make money and this will cause a big trouble.

Russia talking about west is right as well, war in Ukraine might be terrible but not like West hasn't attacked middle east for the past 20 years, we have seen that, west has done much worse war crimes before as well. So, Russia is right about west and west is right about Russia if you ask any nation that is staying out of this, like mine, we just laugh at your attacks against each other.

Much can be said about the president of Russia, but he is not a moron, as you say.
If the economy in Russia is better, then in Europe it will be worse It used to suit everyone, but now the situation will change.

September 17, 1939, Soviet troops entered the territory of Poland - true / false? Arguments?

I don't want to teach you the lessons of history
September 1, 1939 Germany attacked Poland, is it true or false?
The Polish army had no chance against Germany, they did not last even a month.
The Soviet Union could not but react.
Poland is still demanding compensation.

The war with Finland over territory was a mistake, and one of the many reasons for the German attack on the USSR, because they showed the Soviet army was weak.

It is true that the Soviet Union wanted to expand its influence and territory because they understood that war was inevitable.

[Sithara007]

With a population of about 146,110,000, I think Russia is sufficiently populated to meet its needs. A willing population may be an issue. Multiple threats and sanctions have been meted against Russia by NATO whose sole aim is annihilation of Russia. Truly, you want prepare adequately for war and disaster, but I think Russia is holding strong against a seemingly superior opponents. I only pray things are resolved soonest.

The figure of 146.1 million provided here was for mainland Russia, prior to the war on February 2022. Russia has now annexed 4 regions of Ukraine (Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia). These four regions had a combined population of 9 million as of 2022. Even if we assume that one-third of the population reside outside the Russian controlled areas, that gives a total population of more than 152 million. And at this point, Ukraine's population is just around 25-30 million. They lost millions after Russia annexed the four regions. And 8 million Ukrainians are now refugees outside that country (with 2,852,395 of them residing in Russia as of May 2023).

[DrBeer]

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Stop this dramatic hand wringing. A military special operation is underway, with inevitable accompanying losses among the civilian population on both sides. Recently, in Donetsk, seven people were burned alive in a minibus as a result of a direct hit by a MLRS rocket fired from Avdiivka, which is controlled by Kyiv. Donetsk has become accustomed to this after almost nine years of continuous shelling by the Ukrainian Nazis.

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I will dedicate a separate post to fans of fakes, on the topic indicated by them

I'll start from afar.
The distance from Avdiivka to the CENTER of DONETSK (and Universitetskaya Street, where this allegedly happened is the center of the city, parallel to Artem Street), is approximately 22-23 km. Considering the front line.
If we are talking about MLRS, these are most likely Grad-type systems.
With a projectile range of more than 20 km, there are only a few modifications of warheads. By the way - you have a fact proving that it was a MLRS and what model, charge. There is no fact - it means you, as always, habitually lie, trying to divert attention from the crimes of Russia!
So, a projectile with a range of more than 20 km, high-explosive fragmentation type, produced by Ukraine or the USSR, is 9M521 / 9M522. Warhead weight up to 25 kg. I can give a photo of what it looks like when such a shell hits a residential building, and even just on the road. But - you can do it yourself. Why is this? In order to understand what force destruction brings such a charge.

And now we are looking for a photo from the place of the fake "tragedy" you cite. I will not publish here, but everyone can find photos easily and without compulsion.
In the photo there is a WHOLE bus, but burned out, there are no craters around it. Those. the hit should have happened to him? Right ? But then, comparing with the photo of the explosion of a real warhead, you will understand that nothing should have been left of the bus. At least the body - for sure. Conclusion - you are very gullible, and you are extremely easy to manipulate. Well, or you are a pathological liar who is simply trying to justify the crimes of Russia with a primitive lie, which is more accurate, and which, in general, has already been revealed many times

In a word - Russian propaganda and its henchmen once again, though EXPECTED, "got dirty"

If you're interested, I'll send you a photo of Universitetskaya Street and "a photo of the tragedy on Universitetskaya Street."

PS Most likely, Russia exponentially burned people, for a "beautiful staging", it is normal for them to calmly blow up houses in their country, killing hundreds of citizens, just to blame others - history remembers a lot of such examples ....

UPD. Information came that the real reasons for this event - the "hero of Russia" who returned from the front, being in his usual state - a state of deep alcohol intoxication, tried to prove to people traveling in a shuttle bus that he was a hero and shed blood for all of Russia and them specifically. It was sent as expected. As a result, he was offended, took out an ordinary grenade and began to threaten with an explosion. As a result, the grenade exploded, killing both the rashizt himself and innocent civilians .. Such is the reality, in the territories where the "Russian world" came ....

[Smartprofit]

With a population of about 146,110,000, I think Russia is sufficiently populated to meet its needs. A willing population may be an issue. Multiple threats and sanctions have been meted against Russia by NATO whose sole aim is annihilation of Russia. Truly, you want prepare adequately for war and disaster, but I think Russia is holding strong against a seemingly superior opponents. I only pray things are resolved soonest.

The figure of 146.1 million provided here was for mainland Russia, prior to the war on February 2022. Russia has now annexed 4 regions of Ukraine (Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia). These four regions had a combined population of 9 million as of 2022. Even if we assume that one-third of the population reside outside the Russian controlled areas, that gives a total population of more than 152 million. And at this point, Ukraine's population is just around 25-30 million. They lost millions after Russia annexed the four regions. And 8 million Ukrainians are now refugees outside that country (with 2,852,395 of them residing in Russia as of May 2023).

We do not know exactly how many people live in the Russian Federation.... 

The population census in Russia was conducted during the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic and was, in fact, a purely formal event.  After the announcement of partial military mobilization, a very large number of young people of childbearing age left Russia. 

This is the gene pool of the nation - the most intelligent, educated and energetic people of the country. 

This is a huge loss for the future of Russia.  And a great acquisition for those countries where these people emigrated.

[Andrija Branislav]

but in the end if this condition is allowed to continue then the Russian economic situation, or society will gradually realize it and will cause other new problems such as unemployment which of course will definitely have a negative impact on other things as well.

Next, The loss of confidence in the government and the stability of the country as a whole. This could result in a reduction in foreign investment, which in turn could exacerbate the economic situation and exacerbate the unemployment problem. I think it is very important for the Russian government and business leaders to address the root causes of economic instability and work to create sustainable economic growth to overcome the challenges it is currently facing and secure a brighter future for its citizens.

[DrBeer]

I don't want to teach you the lessons of history
September 1, 1939 Germany attacked Poland, is it true or false?
The Polish army had no chance against Germany, they did not last even a month.
The Soviet Union could not but react.
Poland is still demanding compensation.

The war with Finland over territory was a mistake, and one of the many reasons for the German attack on the USSR, because they showed the Soviet army was weak.

It is true that the Soviet Union wanted to expand its influence and territory because they understood that war was inevitable.

You never found the courage to answer honestly and truthfully, I expected this ...
I answer your questions: Yes, Germany FIRST, on September 1, invaded the territory of Poland. Whether Poland had chances or not is the second question. But the USSR, in order to help its partner - Germany, delivered a vile blow from behind, the defending army of Poland. On September 17, 1939, the troops of the Red Army crossed the border of Poland, without warning, and the declaration of war, starting the destruction and capture of Poland from the east.
The result of this massacre was a joint parade of Nazi Germany and the USSR in Brest.
"The parade of the Wehrmacht in front of the units of the Red Army in Brest - the passage of a solemn march along the main street of the city of Brest (Brest-Litovsk) of the divisions of the XIX motorized corps of the Wehrmacht (corps commander - General of Tank Forces Heinz Guderian), which was observed as spectators by the crews of the 29th separate tank brigade of the Red Army (commander - brigade commander Semyon Krivoshein), which took place on September 22, 1939, during the official procedure for the transfer to the Soviet side of the city of Brest and the Brest Fortress, captured by German troops during the invasion of Poland. Guderian and Krivoshein under the naval flag of Germany. The procedure was completed the solemn lowering of the German flag and the raising of the Soviet flag.
The transfer of the city took place in accordance with the Soviet-German protocol on the establishment of a demarcation line on the territory of the former Polish state, signed on September 21, 1939 by representatives of the Soviet and German commands. The event was filmed for the film magazine Die Deutsche Wochenschau."


2. There was no German attack on the USSR, it was a special military operation to decommunize the USSR and protect the interests of the German-speaking population of the USSR! And in general it was an internal conflict in the USSR!
How do you like this presentation, in the format of modern Russian propaganda and state lies? You obviously don't like it!?


PS. Well, and most importantly - so, it turns out that all that I cited is true facts, and you accused me of propaganda and distorting history deliberately and purposefully?

[be.open]

2. There was no German attack on the USSR, it was a special military operation to decommunize the USSR and protect the interests of the German-speaking population of the USSR! And in general it was an internal conflict in the USSR!
How do you like this presentation, in the format of modern Russian propaganda and state lies? You obviously don't like it!?

Don't be silly, Russia's invasion of Poland on September 17, 1939 can be called a special military operation, but the German attack on Russia on June 22, 1941 was a full-fledged act of declaring war. A war can be easily distinguished from a military special operation by the nature of the interaction of the conflicting states through diplomatic channels.

Your attempts to distort history should be subjected to immediate general condemnation, and all your historical and political activity with a clear bias in favor of Ukraine in the Economics section is absolutely inappropriate. Go to the Politics section and practice idle talk there.

[Sithara007]

We do not know exactly how many people live in the Russian Federation.... 

The population census in Russia was conducted during the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic and was, in fact, a purely formal event.  After the announcement of partial military mobilization, a very large number of young people of childbearing age left Russia. 

This is the gene pool of the nation - the most intelligent, educated and energetic people of the country. 

This is a huge loss for the future of Russia.  And a great acquisition for those countries where these people emigrated.

According to some sources, close to 1 million people emigrated from Russia since the start of the war in February 2022. But most of these people will eventually return to Russia, as they are on temporary permits and mostly residing in various CIS nations such as Georgia, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan. These CIS nations are not very happy with the influx, but they will tolerate for sometime because the emigrants are spending a lot of money and it is boosting the local economy. On the other hand, Ukraine's loss of manpower is permanent.

[Litzki1990]

Various US sanctions on Russia have not changed Russia's economic situation. Russia's economic situation is the same as it was before the war with Ukraine, even after the US sanctions. Some Russians are working in a project in our country and when asked about the condition of their country, they say that their families are not facing any problem, their families are moving as before, there is no unrest in the country, prices of daily necessities and other things are normal. That is, according to the Russian person, they are not yet worried about such a war situation in their country.

[DrBeer]

2. There was no German attack on the USSR, it was a special military operation to decommunize the USSR and protect the interests of the German-speaking population of the USSR! And in general it was an internal conflict in the USSR!
How do you like this presentation, in the format of modern Russian propaganda and state lies? You obviously don't like it!?

Don't be silly, Russia's invasion of Poland on September 17, 1939 can be called a special military operation, but the German attack on Russia on June 22, 1941 was a full-fledged act of declaring war. A war can be easily distinguished from a military special operation by the nature of the interaction of the conflicting states through diplomatic channels.

Your attempts to distort history should be subjected to immediate general condemnation, and all your historical and political activity with a clear bias in favor of Ukraine in the Economics section is absolutely inappropriate. Go to the Politics section and practice idle talk there.

Well, you are lying again, as always
The purpose of the AGREEMENT between the friendly Nazi regimes - Hitler's and the Kremlin's, was not a special operation - but the seizure and division of the territory of an independent country. What Russia, in the best traditions of Nazism, tried to repeat in 2014. But on June 22, 1941 - indeed, everything is not as you are lying - Germany decided to help the German-speaking population of the USSR, which was oppressed by the Kremlin junta. In addition, the Nazis of the USSR began to destroy their population, i.e. civil internal conflict. Germany tried to save them! And in general - you know very well that the fraternal peoples of Germany and the USSR played off, insidious Honduras! And Germany simply defended itself so that the USSR would not attack it! Tell me - is it cool that Russian crazy propaganda and Russian political technologies and technologies fall on history?

[Sithara007]

Various US sanctions on Russia have not changed Russia's economic situation. Russia's economic situation is the same as it was before the war with Ukraine, even after the US sanctions. Some Russians are working in a project in our country and when asked about the condition of their country, they say that their families are not facing any problem, their families are moving as before, there is no unrest in the country, prices of daily necessities and other things are normal. That is, according to the Russian person, they are not yet worried about such a war situation in their country.

The so called sanctions will negatively impact the western nations more than the Russians themselves. Russia is one of the top producers of various mineral resources and during the past decade they have boosted the agricultural output by several times. Western nations, as a result of their stupid sanctions are cutting themselves off a large share of the global supplies. Russia mostly imports electronics, pharmaceuticals and other finished goods. And supplies from western nations are currently being replaced with those from China. Ordinary Russians are not facing any sort of shortages, while back in Germany heavy engineering and metallurgical plants are being closed down due to the high prices of gas and electricity.

[Smartprofit]

We do not know exactly how many people live in the Russian Federation.... 

The population census in Russia was conducted during the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic and was, in fact, a purely formal event.  After the announcement of partial military mobilization, a very large number of young people of childbearing age left Russia. 

This is the gene pool of the nation - the most intelligent, educated and energetic people of the country. 

This is a huge loss for the future of Russia.  And a great acquisition for those countries where these people emigrated.

According to some sources, close to 1 million people emigrated from Russia since the start of the war in February 2022. But most of these people will eventually return to Russia, as they are on temporary permits and mostly residing in various CIS nations such as Georgia, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan. These CIS nations are not very happy with the influx, but they will tolerate for sometime because the emigrants are spending a lot of money and it is boosting the local economy. On the other hand, Ukraine's loss of manpower is permanent.

I think a lot more people left Russia. 

For example, about 1/3 of the total number of my acquaintances left Russia forever.  At the same time, the girls return to Russia, but the guys do not.  This is due to the fear of a new wave of military mobilization. 

No one wants to get into a situation where their repeated trip abroad will be forcibly restricted. 

The worst thing is the complete hopelessness and the absence of at least some hope for a favorable outcome.  People leave not only for Kazakhstan and Georgia, but also for Australia, the USA, Mexico, Goa, Bali, Dubai, Turkey, etc.

[Sithara007]

I think a lot more people left Russia. 

For example, about 1/3 of the total number of my acquaintances left Russia forever.  At the same time, the girls return to Russia, but the guys do not.  This is due to the fear of a new wave of military mobilization. 

No one wants to get into a situation where their repeated trip abroad will be forcibly restricted. 

The worst thing is the complete hopelessness and the absence of at least some hope for a favorable outcome.  People leave not only for Kazakhstan and Georgia, but also for Australia, the USA, Mexico, Goa, Bali, Dubai, Turkey, etc.

Goa, Dubai.etc are temporary destinations. It is almost impossible to get the citizenship in these countries. And in case of India, PR is also difficult to obtain. Situation is slightly different in CIS countries such as Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan, as it is easier to obtain passports for Russian speakers. After the dissolution of the USSR, these countries lost almost 80% of the ethnic Russian population, which had a negative impact on their economy. They would welcome highly educated and skilled immigrants from Russia, provided that these people are ready to integrate into the local culture.

[Smartprofit]

I think a lot more people left Russia. 

For example, about 1/3 of the total number of my acquaintances left Russia forever.  At the same time, the girls return to Russia, but the guys do not.  This is due to the fear of a new wave of military mobilization. 

No one wants to get into a situation where their repeated trip abroad will be forcibly restricted. 

The worst thing is the complete hopelessness and the absence of at least some hope for a favorable outcome.  People leave not only for Kazakhstan and Georgia, but also for Australia, the USA, Mexico, Goa, Bali, Dubai, Turkey, etc.

Goa, Dubai.etc are temporary destinations. It is almost impossible to get the citizenship in these countries. And in case of India, PR is also difficult to obtain. Situation is slightly different in CIS countries such as Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan, as it is easier to obtain passports for Russian speakers. After the dissolution of the USSR, these countries lost almost 80% of the ethnic Russian population, which had a negative impact on their economy. They would welcome highly educated and skilled immigrants from Russia, provided that these people are ready to integrate into the local culture.

Yes, in the future, Russians run the risk of becoming a nomadic people without a homeland, like medieval gypsies and Jews ...

I agree with you in the United Arab Emirates it is almost impossible to obtain full-fledged citizenship.  It also has a very uncomfortable climate. 

At the same time, moving to the countries of the former USSR, unfortunately, does not solve the problem either.  All 15 former Soviet republics of the USSR are fragments of a once united country, statehood in these territories is only being formed.  Several generations must pass before these countries reach maturity and stability. 

For example, in January 2022, there were mass riots in Kazakhstan, which fortunately did not lead to a protracted civil war.

[DrBeer]

Various US sanctions on Russia have not changed Russia's economic situation. Russia's economic situation is the same as it was before the war with Ukraine, even after the US sanctions. Some Russians are working in a project in our country and when asked about the condition of their country, they say that their families are not facing any problem, their families are moving as before, there is no unrest in the country, prices of daily necessities and other things are normal. That is, according to the Russian person, they are not yet worried about such a war situation in their country.

You forgot to take into account one nuance - a Russian (thanks to be.open for the hint, clarification - I mean a resident of Russia) lies as soon as he opens his mouth Therefore, they prosper, the whole world envies them, they have a powerful economy, the best army, the whole world cannot live without their technologies and resources, ... This is such a habit, genetic - it was laid down by the USSR. You live disgustingly and there are no prospects - lie to everyone around you that you are the richest and most successful!
This behavior reminds me of children from poor, dysfunctional families. Those who communicate in the yard with their peers, who have normal families, good income, good relationships, seeing how they live, begin to invent fairy tales and tell that everything is fine with them too. That dad is not an alcoholic, and mom does not work 3 jobs to at least somehow feed her family. That at home instead of a shabby apartment - but a beautiful beautiful design ....


Although I agree that a small part of the population of Russia, stealing resources or working for those who plunder the country, do not live badly. But my relatives who live in Russia (Novosibirsk and Krasnodar) have been complaining for many years that prices are rising, the quality of products is falling, utilities are growing, medicines are in short supply and their prices are high, there are no prospects, earnings are falling.

[be.open]

You forgot to take into account one nuance - a Russian lies as soon as he opens his mouth

You are a very self-critical Russian.

PS Yes, I am a citizen of Ukraine. Russian by nationality, born in the territory of modern Russia, and having many relatives in Russia, which means I have information from real residents of Russia.

But you should not impose projections of your internal complexes on those around you and engage in the practice of false generalizations on a national basis. All people are different and it does not depend on nationality, of course, if you are not a Nazi.

[kojektea]

they are quite strong on the economic side, even in a state of war some time ago Russia was still able to survive even though they had to offend NATO. at least they have a natural resource in the form of gas which is the source of their exports to Europe, and that is Russia's valuable asset in Europe, they can sell it at a higher price for Europe because of offending it, I think Russia is now really a strong country militarily and economically.

[DrBeer]

You forgot to take into account one nuance - a Russian lies as soon as he opens his mouth

You are a very self-critical Russian.

PS Yes, I am a citizen of Ukraine. Russian by nationality, born in the territory of modern Russia, and having many relatives in Russia, which means I have information from real residents of Russia.

But you should not impose projections of your internal complexes on those around you and engage in the practice of false generalizations on a national basis. All people are different and it does not depend on nationality, of course, if you are not a Nazi.

I always appreciate your help
I already explained in my post what I mean! You are absolutely right - it is very wrong to evaluate on a national basis. Everything depends on the society. For example, the population of Russia has been brought up on lies, hypocrisy and propaganda. Once again - very grateful to you for the revealed inaccuracy!
About the complexes - you tell your psychiatrist - it will amuse him, well, plus profile help will obviously not hurt you

[Smartprofit]

I have now gone on a tourist trip to the Republic of Belarus.  

I went to the local supermarket (to buy a kettle for tea leaves) and saw an interesting picture from life.  

Two employees of the Ministry of Emergency Situation (very beautiful girls - blondes in military uniform) told the children what dangers await them in their own apartment and how they can be avoided.  It was an interesting conversation, similar to a lecture, an exam and a quest at the same time.  

I thought that focusing on security is good, but it can easily turn into paranoia and bring trouble to both your people and nearby neighboring nations.

You can not build your picture of the world on the concept of security.  We must believe that the universe is friendly to people.  It is we who, with our anxious thoughts, make the world around us dangerous and unfriendly.

[pawel7777]

they are quite strong on the economic side, even in a state of war some time ago Russia was still able to survive even though they had to offend NATO. at least they have a natural resource in the form of gas which is the source of their exports to Europe, and that is Russia's valuable asset in Europe, they can sell it at a higher price for Europe because of offending it, I think Russia is now really a strong country militarily and economically.

The problem with conventional warfare is that it requires a lot of men willing and able to fight. With a prolonged conflict the number of dead and terminally wounded piles up. So even assuming they have the technology and resources to buy/produce equipment, they could simply run out of fighting-age men at some point. Drafting too many civilians could cause further disruptions to normal, daily operations (i.e. shortage of workers).

Russia seems to be managing the sanctions way better than anyone (in the West) expected, but to say they're economically strong is just too far-fetched.