[Boxing] Jason Moloney vs Vincent Astrolabio WBO 118lbs Title (May 13)

[serjent05]

Now that there's another Bantamweight Champion, there are now 2 current champions in the Bantamweight Division:

Takuma Inoue - WBA
Jason Moloney - WBO

On the other hand, Nonito Donaire Jr. and Alejandro Santiago's WBC Bantamweight Title match is still hanging in the air with no updates.

I expect Donaire to win one of the remaining titles because of all the boxers here in this division after Inoue left Donaire is a serious contender to be a champion, this is Donaire's last hurrah or hope to become a champion and possibly retire, all boxers want a good exit they don't want a big loss when they are going out of the boxing world and with old age approaching fast, Donaire need one good fight and it should be a title fight.

I also think Donaire has the advantage and if he has a chance to fight the other champion, he might have a higher chance of winning the unification bout.  It is sad that Astrolabio failed to get the WBO belt but I believe Donaire will be able to beat Moloney for a unification bout if it happens.  I only wish that the future match of Donaire will happen in the time frame when he isn't that exhausted because of old age.

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Now that there's another Bantamweight Champion, there are now 2 current champions in the Bantamweight Division:

Takuma Inoue - WBA
Jason Moloney - WBO

On the other hand, Nonito Donaire Jr. and Alejandro Santiago's WBC Bantamweight Title match is still hanging in the air with no updates.

I expect Donaire to win one of the remaining titles because of all the boxers here in this division after Inoue left Donaire is a serious contender to be a champion, this is Donaire's last hurrah or hope to become a champion and possibly retire, all boxers want a good exit they don't want a big loss when they are going out of the boxing world and with old age approaching fast, Donaire need one good fight and it should be a title fight.

Hopefully he can materialize his own fight as soon as possible so that he can at least fight again if he's still able before this year ends, he needed to have another fight as long as he still can because his age is already catching up to him slowly by slowly and it will take a toll on his body once father time is already riding with him. For now, it seems that it is not yet the case because he is still eager to make such fight which means he can still handle it very well mainly now that Inoue is already out of the horizon.

[freedomgo]

Now that there's another Bantamweight Champion, there are now 2 current champions in the Bantamweight Division:

Takuma Inoue - WBA
Jason Moloney - WBO

On the other hand, Nonito Donaire Jr. and Alejandro Santiago's WBC Bantamweight Title match is still hanging in the air with no updates.

I expect Donaire to win one of the remaining titles because of all the boxers here in this division after Inoue left Donaire is a serious contender to be a champion, this is Donaire's last hurrah or hope to become a champion and possibly retire, all boxers want a good exit they don't want a big loss when they are going out of the boxing world and with old age approaching fast, Donaire need one good fight and it should be a title fight.

I also think Donaire has the advantage and if he has a chance to fight the other champion, he might have a higher chance of winning the unification bout.  It is sad that Astrolabio failed to get the WBO belt but I believe Donaire will be able to beat Moloney for a unification bout if it happens.  I only wish that the future match of Donaire will happen in the time frame when he isn't that exhausted because of old age.

Judging from Jason Moloney's recent performance versus Vincent Astrolabio, I can say as well that Donaire got a good chance on beating the new WBO champion for a unification fight in-case Donaire wins his campaign versus Santiago to possess the vacant WBC belt. All that is left now for Donaire is to materialize his own fight.

There are many rumors that are now surfacing in the internet but none of those made serious sense on why his bout took too long before they can make it, except for the Probellum's current situation which is Donaire's promoter.

[coin-investor]

Judging from Jason Moloney's recent performance versus Vincent Astrolabio, I can say as well that Donaire got a good chance on beating the new WBO champion for a unification fight in-case Donaire wins his campaign versus Santiago to possess the vacant WBC belt. All that is left now for Donaire is to materialize his own fight.

There are many rumors that are now surfacing in the internet but none of those made serious sense on why his bout took too long before they can make it, except for the Probellum's current situation which is Donaire's promoter.

I still believe in Donaire's capability to win a title but it's still hard to asses his motivation and his preparation coming from a devastating loss, at 40,  Donaire is not the same fighter we love seeing in a ring with his quick jab and power left hook, although only his carelessness cause him his fight against Inoue.
His fight against Santiago will define if he can still continue or end his road, but if he can show his old form he can easily beat Moloney if Moloney's fight against Astrolabio is the best that he can come out.

[BitcoinPanther]

Judging from Jason Moloney's recent performance versus Vincent Astrolabio, I can say as well that Donaire got a good chance on beating the new WBO champion for a unification fight in-case Donaire wins his campaign versus Santiago to possess the vacant WBC belt. All that is left now for Donaire is to materialize his own fight.

There are many rumors that are now surfacing in the internet but none of those made serious sense on why his bout took too long before they can make it, except for the Probellum's current situation which is Donaire's promoter.

I still believe in Donaire's capability to win a title but it's still hard to asses his motivation and his preparation coming from a devastating loss, at 40,  Donaire is not the same fighter we love seeing in a ring with his quick jab and power left hook, although only his carelessness cause him his fight against Inoue.

Donaire's camp cited some issue during the last fight against Inoue and it has something to do with the gloves.  Donaire's camp stated that Donaire used different gloves that made him feel uncomfortable/awkward during their last fight.  It may add to the advantage of Inoue but I still think Inoue will still win that fight because of the difference in physical ability.

His fight against Santiago will define if he can still continue or end his road, but if he can show his old form he can easily beat Moloney if Moloney's fight against Astrolabio is the best that he can come out.

Hopefully Donaire can bag this fight and have a chance for unification fight.  I hope before he hang his gloves, he can at least have another chance to a title unification fight.  Moloney knows that he won't win in the current state of Donaire so he looks for a chance to avoid Donaire and prolong the time of their possible match-up hoping that age will give a toll on Donaire.

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Judging from Jason Moloney's recent performance versus Vincent Astrolabio, I can say as well that Donaire got a good chance on beating the new WBO champion for a unification fight in-case Donaire wins his campaign versus Santiago to possess the vacant WBC belt. All that is left now for Donaire is to materialize his own fight.

There are many rumors that are now surfacing in the internet but none of those made serious sense on why his bout took too long before they can make it, except for the Probellum's current situation which is Donaire's promoter.

I still believe in Donaire's capability to win a title but it's still hard to asses his motivation and his preparation coming from a devastating loss, at 40,  Donaire is not the same fighter we love seeing in a ring with his quick jab and power left hook, although only his carelessness cause him his fight against Inoue.

Donaire's camp cited some issue during the last fight against Inoue and it has something to do with the gloves.  Donaire's camp stated that Donaire used different gloves that made him feel uncomfortable/awkward during their last fight.  It may add to the advantage of Inoue but I still think Inoue will still win that fight because of the difference in physical ability.

Even if those things were true, it will not change the fact that Naoya Inoue have the full control of that fight and he got the advantage needed to defeat the aging Donaire. Even if let's say that Donaire wore the right gloves that made him comfortable enough, he might last longer but I seriously think that it will still end via KO or TKO.

His fight against Santiago will define if he can still continue or end his road, but if he can show his old form he can easily beat Moloney if Moloney's fight against Astrolabio is the best that he can come out.

Hopefully Donaire can bag this fight and have a chance for unification fight.  I hope before he hang his gloves, he can at least have another chance to a title unification fight.  Moloney knows that he won't win in the current state of Donaire so he looks for a chance to avoid Donaire and prolong the time of their possible match-up hoping that age will give a toll on Donaire.

Regarding the fact that Moloney is somehow scared towards the current Donaire, there is a good chance that he will avoid that fight at first until he can make Donaire retire. For now, Donaire should focus on his fight and making things happen because until now, there are no solid news surfacing that their championship fight is happening soon enough.

[bisdak40]

Regarding the fact that Moloney is somehow scared towards the current Donaire, there is a good chance that he will avoid that fight at first until he can make Donaire retire. For now, Donaire should focus on his fight and making things happen because until now, there are no solid news surfacing that their championship fight is happening soon enough.

A unification fight between Donaire and Moloney is far from happening as of now because Donaire has to become a champion first but if that happens in the future, i dont think Top Rank will easily agree to a fight with the WBC champion Donaire until the latter retires, i think that is the time when they will venture for a unification fight hehe.

As for Astrolabio, it's just unfortunate for him that he didn't knock out Moloney because that's the only way for him to win the fight as the fight was held in Australia where a decision win is not easily given to the Aussie's opponent.

[Sanitough]

Regarding the fact that Moloney is somehow scared towards the current Donaire, there is a good chance that he will avoid that fight at first until he can make Donaire retire. For now, Donaire should focus on his fight and making things happen because until now, there are no solid news surfacing that their championship fight is happening soon enough.

A unification fight between Donaire and Moloney is far from happening as of now because Donaire has to become a champion first but if that happens in the future, i dont think Top Rank will easily agree to a fight with the WBC champion Donaire until the latter retires, i think that is the time when they will venture for a unification fight hehe.

As for Astrolabio, it's just unfortunate for him that he didn't knock out Moloney because that's the only way for him to win the fight as the fight was held in Australia where a decision win is not easily given to the Aussie's opponent.

It's a tough loss, but it is what it is. Nowadays, boxing seems to be more about politics, with promoters aiming to maximize profits from their cash cow and protect their investments. Unfortunately, this kind of strategy is diminishing the excitement in boxing, as it should be about the best fighting the best. However, in the case of Moloney, it appears he is hesitant to face an older Donaire.

[Questat]

However, in the case of Moloney, it appears he is hesitant to face an older Donaire.

Obviously, that was the case because it was supposed to be Moloney vs. Donaire fighting for the championship belt. However, Moloney backed out and chose a different opponent whom he believed he could defeat. His decision turned out to be correct as he emerged victorious in a hard-fought, tight match.

So the question remains, what's next for Moloney? Will he continue to play it safe and avoid Donaire as a challenger? Or if Donaire wins a championship, would Moloney be willing to unify the belts?

[inthelongrun]

However, in the case of Moloney, it appears he is hesitant to face an older Donaire.

Obviously, that was the case because it was supposed to be Moloney vs. Donaire fighting for the championship belt. However, Moloney backed out and chose a different opponent whom he believed he could defeat. His decision turned out to be correct as he emerged victorious in a hard-fought, tight match.

So the question remains, what's next for Moloney? Will he continue to play it safe and avoid Donaire as a challenger? Or if Donaire wins a championship, would Moloney be willing to unify the belts?

If there was someone that wants Moloney to face an easier opponent to become a champion, it would be Bob Arum. Nonetheless, Arum has his own valid reasons, old Donaire until now wasted a lot of time, energy, and money as well as it is assumed that he is already training.

At last, I already watched the whole replay yesterday on Youtube. The reception was only 720p though and I was sleepy so I did not score the fight. But from my own limited observation, it was close and could have gone either way? And the Mexican broadcasters followed someone's scorecard who actually had Astrolabio winning 116-112. I haven't seen the per-round stats yet but I heard Moloney connected more although I valued power punches more than just jabs and Astrolabio seemed to have landed the heavier shots.  

I also watched an interview with Moloney. I was surprised that his hand was actually injured in round 3 or 4 of that fight. And he kept it a secret and did not show any hints even to his own corner because he was afraid that they might stop the fight and would stop his chance of becoming a champion. He was in a hospital after the fight and stayed there until 2 AM. That was probably the reason why he stick to moving and using his skills. And I am surprised that he was so confident that he really won very clearly in that fight. His mind right after the fight was that he won 11 or 10 or 9 out of 12. And then lastly, he mentioned that he would love to unify the belt for a chance to become undisputed, Donaire included. He is hoping to bring another big unification fight to Australia again.

By the way, next weekend is the Haney-Lomachenko event. The main supporting event is Jason Moloney's twin brother, Andrew Moloney trying to become a 2-time champion against the undefeated Japanese Junto Nakatani who is moving up in weight to become a 2 division champion. There were only a few brothers that became world champions and it's rare to see twins become champions. This might steal the show if Haney keeps on hugging and making his fight with Loma a boring one.

[Japinat]

By the way, next weekend is the Haney-Lomachenko event. The main supporting event is Jason Moloney's twin brother, Andrew Moloney trying to become a 2-time champion against the undefeated Japanese Junto Nakatani who is moving up in weight to become a 2 division champion. There were only a few brothers that became world champions and it's rare to see twins become champions. This might steal the show if Haney keeps on hugging and making his fight with Loma a boring one.

A twin within the same league with same debut year but in two different divisions, Andrew is now taking his attempt to take a shot WBO Superfly while his brother, Jason, is in the upper weight class who is now the WBO champion. That sums it all and to say, it is indeed rare to see a twin in a contact sport playing professionally, we may have brothers but a twin is a different discussion.

This might steal the show if Haney keeps on hugging and making his fight with Loma a boring one.

I won't be surprised if that happens.

[Distinctin]

So the question remains, what's next for Moloney? Will he continue to play it safe and avoid Donaire as a challenger? Or if Donaire wins a championship, would Moloney be willing to unify the belts?

There is no news yet regarding Moloney's plans for his next fight. He is probably still enjoying his significant victory and newfound championship status. We should keep an eye on the news to get updates on his next moves.

As for a potential unification bout against Donaire (in case Donaire wins a championship fight), I don't believe it's likely to happen. If Moloney chose not to fight Donaire when he wasn't a champion, why would he suddenly opt to face a champion Donaire? The point here is that Moloney wants to avoid a KO defeat from Donaire, plain and simple.

[bisdak40]

So the question remains, what's next for Moloney? Will he continue to play it safe and avoid Donaire as a challenger? Or if Donaire wins a championship, would Moloney be willing to unify the belts?

There is no news yet regarding Moloney's plans for his next fight. He is probably still enjoying his significant victory and newfound championship status. We should keep an eye on the news to get updates on his next moves.

As for a potential unification bout against Donaire (in case Donaire wins a championship fight), I don't believe it's likely to happen. If Moloney chose not to fight Donaire when he wasn't a champion, why would he suddenly opt to face a champion Donaire? The point here is that Moloney wants to avoid a KO defeat from Donaire, plain and simple.

Got nothing against Moloney but i think his grasp of the championship belt will be short-live, i mean his talent is not so special, just an average boxer with a supportive promoter and the championship was held in his home turf hehe.

Moloney said that he will enjoy the moment of being a champion as of now and let his promoter do his work after some months of celebration.

As usual, thank you all for your contributions/comments/ideas about this fight, time to lock the thread now as it has been four days since the fight and there's not much to talk about.