Without money, does it still qualify as gambling?

[Doan9269]

~ There's what people called free giveaways, where you're permitted to join a quest for receiving anything for free if you're lucky or being eligible, gambling is all about playing games, both live or virtual games and sports, you bet by using your money to stand in for you that if your prediction is accurate, you stand a chance to make a winning, i don't count anything that does not do with money a gambling because you're not staking anything for such.

And you are right, imo, because gambling, by definition, is about staking something valuable. Yes, some activities, when nothing valuable is at stake, still called "gambling" sometimes, but those cases are the topic of discussion rather on linguistic forums than here in Gambling section.

The reason why many people choose to gambler is to make more valuable profits from what they do. You put your money so that you can make more money which is simple. If you don't bet we'll or have to amounts of luck for you to make a winning, then you are going to lose money totally without getting it back. You win other lose, if other win, you lose. Simple pattern how gambling works.

Even if we are playing and having fun we can still bet and gambles as long as such leads to argument we need to prove how right we are, we can stake any amount of money right among ourselves, gambles and have more fun amidst our owers, everyone have the full right to try his luck, sometimes when we are too sure about something, we turn it to gambling because we want to show or prove it to everyone that we are true about it, to me i may say gambling is another way of showing how confident and desperate we are about a particular game, sport or event.

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[noormcs5]

~ There's what people called free giveaways, where you're permitted to join a quest for receiving anything for free if you're lucky or being eligible, gambling is all about playing games, both live or virtual games and sports, you bet by using your money to stand in for you that if your prediction is accurate, you stand a chance to make a winning, i don't count anything that does not do with money a gambling because you're not staking anything for such.

And you are right, imo, because gambling, by definition, is about staking something valuable. Yes, some activities, when nothing valuable is at stake, still called "gambling" sometimes, but those cases are the topic of discussion rather on linguistic forums than here in Gambling section.

The reason why many people choose to gambler is to make more valuable profits from what they do. You put your money so that you can make more money which is simple. If you don't bet we'll or have to amounts of luck for you to make a winning, then you are going to lose money totally without getting it back. You win other lose, if other win, you lose. Simple pattern how gambling works.

Even if we are playing and having fun we can still bet and gambles as long as such leads to argument we need to prove how right we are, we can stake any amount of money right among ourselves, gambles and have more fun amidst our owers, everyone have the full right to try his luck, sometimes when we are too sure about something, we turn it to gambling because we want to show or prove it to everyone that we are true about it, to me i may say gambling is another way of showing how confident and desperate we are about a particular game, sport or event.

Why do we gamble? To have fun and to gain some money too. Yes, if you only need fun, there are many games like arcade games, puzzles or action games that may give you even more fun with attractive graphics but when you are gambling, your main focus is to earn some money too.

So if you ask gamblers to gamble with fake money or no money at all, I don't think they will show any interest. Suppose you are betting on a match and in the end you know that the winner will get no reward, would you bet or even think of doing all this hassle?

So for gamblers without money, there is no gambling.

[danadc]

~ There's what people called free giveaways, where you're permitted to join a quest for receiving anything for free if you're lucky or being eligible, gambling is all about playing games, both live or virtual games and sports, you bet by using your money to stand in for you that if your prediction is accurate, you stand a chance to make a winning, i don't count anything that does not do with money a gambling because you're not staking anything for such.

And you are right, imo, because gambling, by definition, is about staking something valuable. Yes, some activities, when nothing valuable is at stake, still called "gambling" sometimes, but those cases are the topic of discussion rather on linguistic forums than here in Gambling section.

The reason why many people choose to gambler is to make more valuable profits from what they do. You put your money so that you can make more money which is simple. If you don't bet we'll or have to amounts of luck for you to make a winning, then you are going to lose money totally without getting it back. You win other lose, if other win, you lose. Simple pattern how gambling works.

Even if we are playing and having fun we can still bet and gambles as long as such leads to argument we need to prove how right we are, we can stake any amount of money right among ourselves, gambles and have more fun amidst our owers, everyone have the full right to try his luck, sometimes when we are too sure about something, we turn it to gambling because we want to show or prove it to everyone that we are true about it, to me i may say gambling is another way of showing how confident and desperate we are about a particular game, sport or event.

Why do we gamble? To have fun and to gain some money too. Yes, if you only need fun, there are many games like arcade games, puzzles or action games that may give you even more fun with attractive graphics but when you are gambling, your main focus is to earn some money too.

So if you ask gamblers to gamble with fake money or no money at all, I don't think they will show any interest. Suppose you are betting on a match and in the end you know that the winner will get no reward, would you bet or even think of doing all this hassle?

So for gamblers without money, there is no gambling.

Yes, gambling is something that always needs to bet, if we do not bet it is not the same emotion, it does not feel the same, it could be said that we are experiencing the experience badly if it is about playing, we can have fun, but Sometimes you play with fake or fictitious money and you win, but when you change to real money then in my case I always lose, and then those things make me angry with myself, because if I had started doing things with real money I would have won, but I don't know if the games in demo mode sweeten us to later bet with real money and lose, I always have that doubt.

[Fortify]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

The essence of gambling, at least to most players I believe, is that you stand to gain a tangible return from taking a risk. While this is technically true with virtual goods, you still don't have any "skin in the game" as it were and might as well be throwing your virtual money at a random number guessing game for all the benefit it brings you. Being able to say you have gotten richer from a wise decision could be construed as a underpinning force behind gambling. Of course the flip side is that you are stupid if you lose repeatedly. There is no judgement on either , but virtual betting is nonsense and a complete waste of time really.

[Wiwo]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

The essence of gambling, at least to most players I believe, is that you stand to gain a tangible return from taking a risk. While this is technically true with virtual goods, you still don't have any "skin in the game" as it were and might as well be throwing your virtual money at a random number guessing game for all the benefit it brings you. Being able to say you have gotten richer from a wise decision could be construed as a underpinning force behind gambling. Of course the flip side is that you are stupid if you lose repeatedly. There is no judgement on either , but virtual betting is nonsense and a complete waste of time really.

Fortify you are right and that applies to me personally, the reason why I gamble is to make money from risking my money on the bets as long as I can make an extra case from my gambling activities it's ok for me,  And that is what increases my motivation to keep playing and to see how to reflect this on the daily activeness of my gambling behaviour.

But also we have a few fun games and I don't know if we can classify them under gambling since we doing stake any money playing them, but just play against friends just to have fun, I don't find them interesting most times.

[Hamphser]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

The essence of gambling, at least to most players I believe, is that you stand to gain a tangible return from taking a risk. While this is technically true with virtual goods, you still don't have any "skin in the game" as it were and might as well be throwing your virtual money at a random number guessing game for all the benefit it brings you. Being able to say you have gotten richer from a wise decision could be construed as a underpinning force behind gambling. Of course the flip side is that you are stupid if you lose repeatedly. There is no judgement on either , but virtual betting is nonsense and a complete waste of time really.

Fortify you are right and that applies to me personally, the reason why I gamble is to make money from risking my money on the bets as long as I can make an extra case from my gambling activities it's ok for me,  And that is what increases my motivation to keep playing and to see how to reflect this on the daily activeness of my gambling behaviour.

But also we have a few fun games and I don't know if we can classify them under gambling since we doing stake any money playing them, but just play against friends just to have fun, I don't find them interesting most times.

If it doesnt involved gambling or betting then it would really be definitely be considered to be thrilling and something interesting.We cant really deny that earning money potentially through gambling does really give out that kind of thrill and excitement which it would really be making your blood pumping. Anything that you do as long it doesnt really involved money it cant be called gambling which i couldnt
blame on why people doesnt see for this one to be interesting because they cant gain something.

Whenever you do make some gamble just because you are really that finding for leisure and finding for something that could bring out some potential wins then it would really be your choice
on whatever things you do really want to deal off with. Gambling does make money or giving out opportunity to win money and at the same time you would lose too.
This is why on making yourself that pretty aware in between things.

[John Abraham]

In my perspective, the answer hinges on the definition of 'risk.' In monetary terms, if no money is staked, it might seem there is no risk. However, let's consider the aspect of 'time.' Even in free games or rounds, one invests time, which is arguably our most precious resource. From this standpoint, it can indeed be construed as a form of gambling.

If you count time as an investment, you may say it's gambling. But I have a different point of view. It could differ from person to person. Time is indeed the most precious resource. But not for everyone. There are a lot of people trying to spend their time having fun. Sometimes we spend money to have fun as we gamble and risk our money. I don't see this as gambling when having fun without risking anything. Instead, I consider it as entertainment without investment.

Concerning free bets, they could be seen as a kind of conditional wagering, where you're potentially risking the opportunity cost. The absence of a direct financial commitment doesn't necessarily exempt it from being classified as gambling. This is indeed a complex issue and depends on how we frame 'risk' and 'wager.'

Well, I understand your point. I agree with the part you said it depends on how we frame 'risk' and 'wager.' Free bets can be called gambling since there is a risk of opportunity cost. But, It still depends on how you see this. I don't care too much about free bets. I would be happy if I could win something from the free bet. But there is nothing to lose if you lose. I don't have to invest to place a bet. All I have to do is get a free chance. I spend my spare time on the internet chatting and watching video content. There is no problem guessing which team will win and where i am risking nothing.

[coinerer]

~ There's what people called free giveaways, where you're permitted to join a quest for receiving anything for free if you're lucky or being eligible, gambling is all about playing games, both live or virtual games and sports, you bet by using your money to stand in for you that if your prediction is accurate, you stand a chance to make a winning, i don't count anything that does not do with money a gambling because you're not staking anything for such.

And you are right, imo, because gambling, by definition, is about staking something valuable. Yes, some activities, when nothing valuable is at stake, still called "gambling" sometimes, but those cases are the topic of discussion rather on linguistic forums than here in Gambling section.

The reason why many people choose to gambler is to make more valuable profits from what they do. You put your money so that you can make more money which is simple. If you don't bet we'll or have to amounts of luck for you to make a winning, then you are going to lose money totally without getting it back. You win other lose, if other win, you lose. Simple pattern of how gambling works.

Let's say no pain no gain because money is the pain and the risk you take to be able to win something and even though you play on a demo account you won't have any winning and at that, it will amount to nothing because you did not stake any real amount, so it becomes boring to keep playing,  but on the other hand staking with real money bring in the excitement to keep playing since the winning will become the motivation to keep the game on.

A trader can learn good trading by using demo account. But never get a taste of gambling using this demo account. Gambling doesn't take long to learn. Neither the cost of losing nor the joy of winning is reflected when a gambler conducts betting on a demo account. Unless the gambler panics between winning and losing, it cannot be considered gambling. Because according to the basic rules of gambling there must be an element of loss and gain through money or anything else.

Demo account basically gives gambling experience but full fake money is used here.  And various gambling platforms provide the facility of demo account so that users can increase their gambling experience by gambling with fake money in this demo account and later gamble with real money carefully.  It will reduce the possibility of his financial loss. there are many people who don't understand gambling very well but get interested in gambling after hearing others' profit stories and watching others gambling, in this case demo account can help them a lot to understand gambling and get some practical ideas.

[tusandii]

Well, I can play other games too for finding leisure, but it is the money that makes me gamble. The fun which you get along with monetary gains are non comparable to any game which involves fun but no money. Gambling in its current form is the best 

Getting a number of advantages in gambling is a joy and satisfaction in itself so that you cannot get it anywhere else if you can feel all the satisfaction from gambling.
Even though you can gamble using a demo account and you don't need to deposit a certain amount of money, if you are used to it and are happy with using the money you deposited then a demo account will only give you a feeling of boredom.
It's the same with me, who always dares to take risks by depositing a certain amount of money to gamble because I have the goal of having fun and getting satisfaction when I win.

[Odusko]

Sometimes I used to see the police around my region arresting people publicly playing shot card games and the label it as gambling even though those playing this game don't stake money but the law enforcement agency still categorized it as gambling, so I believe whether or not you stake an amount or just playing for the fun, it all gambling as long as there is a game to contend for the winning unless it sports games if not it all gambling.

[Outhue]

Betting doesn't always have to do with money, I was playing Fortnite with a friend online a week ago and she challenged me to a match one on one, and she said let's make a bet, whoever wins will pay for a drink when we meet the next Saturday, and I lost the match to her, now I owe her a drink out.

This could have happened with the money, I choose to proceed with the game even when I am not so sure that I will win, it's a pure gamble, this is not hard to understand as I keep seeing people posting something related to what everyone has already said, this thread needs a lock.

[ethereumhunter]

Sometimes I used to see the police around my region arresting people publicly playing shot card games and the label it as gambling even though those playing this game don't stake money but the law enforcement agency still categorized it as gambling, so I believe whether or not you stake an amount or just playing for the fun, it all gambling as long as there is a game to contend for the winning unless it sports games if not it all gambling.

Maybe it was because they used cards that were synonymous with gambling that the police thought they were gambling. The authorities could catch people playing cards with their friends even if they didn't use money. So if we want to play sports or anything else, we have to be careful not to use any money so the police won't take it as a bet. But I don't know. The response of each person or the police must also be different and some will think of it as gambling.

[Lanangsarka]

well, in my opinion.. in gambling we must be prepared to risk money, because in gambling we must be prepared to accept all the risks... whether you lose or win.,, take advantage of taking advantage of free time to gamble I don't think there is a problem.

[delfastTions]

well, in my opinion.. in gambling we must be prepared to risk money, because in gambling we must be prepared to accept all the risks... whether you lose or win.,, take advantage of taking advantage of free time to gamble I don't think there is a problem.

That's just it's important that you can usually gamble only when the player has free time for this.  By the way, not all people have the opportunity to sit down at a computer and sit and play quietly for a couple of hours or even more. 

And if we talk about the fact that the game goes on as if without money, but simply for the sake of interest and excitement, then this, in my opinion, somehow reduces the very status and value of gambling a little.  Because gambling is just and is of value when a player actually loses something valuable when he loses or, on the contrary, gains something valuable if he wins.

[Wapfika]

Sometimes I used to see the police around my region arresting people publicly playing shot card games and the label it as gambling even though those playing this game don't stake money but the law enforcement agency still categorized it as gambling, so I believe whether or not you stake an amount or just playing for the fun, it all gambling as long as there is a game to contend for the winning unless it sports games if not it all gambling.

Maybe it was because they used cards that were synonymous with gambling that the police thought they were gambling. The authorities could catch people playing cards with their friends even if they didn't use money. So if we want to play sports or anything else, we have to be careful not to use any money so the police won't take it as a bet. But I don't know. The response of each person or the police must also be different and some will think of it as gambling.

Games that being use to gamble should be play privately or else this kind of incident will happened. This scenario is happening on my country. Police sometimes planting evidence to all the people that they saw playing publicly because they knew that this people really gambling but just hiding money away from the table.

I’m confused these people still wants to gamble publicly while they can always play on their houses privately. Local gambling is very popular in my counter which is why police is very strict on catching them even with just a slightly hint of gambling.

[fathafraink]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

According to Cambridge Dictionary, gambling is "The activity of betting money", so the conclusion is, as long as You don't need to spend some money or even a penny it can't be called as "Gambling".

Refference : https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/gambling

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Sometimes I used to see the police around my region arresting people publicly playing shot card games and the label it as gambling even though those playing this game don't stake money but the law enforcement agency still categorized it as gambling, so I believe whether or not you stake an amount or just playing for the fun, it all gambling as long as there is a game to contend for the winning unless it sports games if not it all gambling.

Many a times I've seen this too, Infact, on a particular occasion, I was almost arrested along side my friend while playing a card game in front of my business place, personally, I understand that the police are usually after the area Boys who play this games while in possession of some hard drugs, but I still chose to say that such type of arrest is completely illegal and should not be accepted..

Anyways, let me not derail or deviate from what is being discussed here, your point is clear and I completely agree, any game where a person would have to contend with another person for a win is simply gambling, whether money is at stake or not.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

~ There's what people called free giveaways, where you're permitted to join a quest for receiving anything for free if you're lucky or being eligible, gambling is all about playing games, both live or virtual games and sports, you bet by using your money to stand in for you that if your prediction is accurate, you stand a chance to make a winning, i don't count anything that does not do with money a gambling because you're not staking anything for such.

And you are right, imo, because gambling, by definition, is about staking something valuable. Yes, some activities, when nothing valuable is at stake, still called "gambling" sometimes, but those cases are the topic of discussion rather on linguistic forums than here in Gambling section.

The reason why many people choose to gambler is to make more valuable profits from what they do. You put your money so that you can make more money which is simple. If you don't bet we'll or have to amounts of luck for you to make a winning, then you are going to lose money totally without getting it back. You win other lose, if other win, you lose. Simple pattern how gambling works.

Even if we are playing and having fun we can still bet and gambles as long as such leads to argument we need to prove how right we are, we can stake any amount of money right among ourselves, gambles and have more fun amidst our owers, everyone have the full right to try his luck, sometimes when we are too sure about something, we turn it to gambling because we want to show or prove it to everyone that we are true about it, to me i may say gambling is another way of showing how confident and desperate we are about a particular game, sport or event.

Why do we gamble? To have fun and to gain some money too. Yes, if you only need fun, there are many games like arcade games, puzzles or action games that may give you even more fun with attractive graphics but when you are gambling, your main focus is to earn some money too.

So if you ask gamblers to gamble with fake money or no money at all, I don't think they will show any interest. Suppose you are betting on a match and in the end you know that the winner will get no reward, would you bet or even think of doing all this hassle?

So for gamblers without money, there is no gambling.

   -   Maybe what OP is referring to is that it's just like a demo account that has a free bet to give and then it looks like you're betting real money but it's not really. Or it is also possible to bet using iPhone Pro Max as payment, just as an example, he did not take out any money here.

Then I remembered the original gambling, at that time it was not money that was used, but things that could be used for profit. And there was no money in those days as far as I know.

[Doan9269]

~ There's what people called free giveaways, where you're permitted to join a quest for receiving anything for free if you're lucky or being eligible, gambling is all about playing games, both live or virtual games and sports, you bet by using your money to stand in for you that if your prediction is accurate, you stand a chance to make a winning, i don't count anything that does not do with money a gambling because you're not staking anything for such.

And you are right, imo, because gambling, by definition, is about staking something valuable. Yes, some activities, when nothing valuable is at stake, still called "gambling" sometimes, but those cases are the topic of discussion rather on linguistic forums than here in Gambling section.

The reason why many people choose to gambler is to make more valuable profits from what they do. You put your money so that you can make more money which is simple. If you don't bet we'll or have to amounts of luck for you to make a winning, then you are going to lose money totally without getting it back. You win other lose, if other win, you lose. Simple pattern of how gambling works.

Let's say no pain no gain because money is the pain and the risk you take to be able to win something and even though you play on a demo account you won't have any winning and at that, it will amount to nothing because you did not stake any real amount, so it becomes boring to keep playing,  but on the other hand staking with real money bring in the excitement to keep playing since the winning will become the motivation to keep the game on.

A trader can learn good trading by using demo account. But never get a taste of gambling using this demo account. Gambling doesn't take long to learn. Neither the cost of losing nor the joy of winning is reflected when a gambler conducts betting on a demo account. Unless the gambler panics between winning and losing, it cannot be considered gambling. Because according to the basic rules of gambling there must be an element of loss and gain through money or anything else.

Demo account basically gives gambling experience but full fake money is used here.  And various gambling platforms provide the facility of demo account so that users can increase their gambling experience by gambling with fake money in this demo account and later gamble with real money carefully.  It will reduce the possibility of his financial loss. there are many people who don't understand gambling very well but get interested in gambling after hearing others' profit stories and watching others gambling, in this case demo account can help them a lot to understand gambling and get some practical ideas.

Talking about the demo account, those are things already out of discussion becau they aren't gambling but a child's play wheb ome is preparing his way down to gambling in full, these are much of a training ground and serve as a preparatory stage one meeds to learn how to run a gambling platform, make bets, withdraw and deposit money, create an account,ake some wagers and set the pace on ground, there could be many forms of attempts to arguments, quarrelling and discussions about sports which all ended in just words of mouth except money is used to stand in for those involved, one may not regards it as gambling or take it more serious as expected than when money is involved.

[coinerer]

~ There's what people called free giveaways, where you're permitted to join a quest for receiving anything for free if you're lucky or being eligible, gambling is all about playing games, both live or virtual games and sports, you bet by using your money to stand in for you that if your prediction is accurate, you stand a chance to make a winning, i don't count anything that does not do with money a gambling because you're not staking anything for such.

And you are right, imo, because gambling, by definition, is about staking something valuable. Yes, some activities, when nothing valuable is at stake, still called "gambling" sometimes, but those cases are the topic of discussion rather on linguistic forums than here in Gambling section.

The reason why many people choose to gambler is to make more valuable profits from what they do. You put your money so that you can make more money which is simple. If you don't bet we'll or have to amounts of luck for you to make a winning, then you are going to lose money totally without getting it back. You win other lose, if other win, you lose. Simple pattern how gambling works.

Even if we are playing and having fun we can still bet and gambles as long as such leads to argument we need to prove how right we are, we can stake any amount of money right among ourselves, gambles and have more fun amidst our owers, everyone have the full right to try his luck, sometimes when we are too sure about something, we turn it to gambling because we want to show or prove it to everyone that we are true about it, to me i may say gambling is another way of showing how confident and desperate we are about a particular game, sport or event.

Why do we gamble? To have fun and to gain some money too. Yes, if you only need fun, there are many games like arcade games, puzzles or action games that may give you even more fun with attractive graphics but when you are gambling, your main focus is to earn some money too.

So if you ask gamblers to gamble with fake money or no money at all, I don't think they will show any interest. Suppose you are betting on a match and in the end you know that the winner will get no reward, would you bet or even think of doing all this hassle?

So for gamblers without money, there is no gambling.

   -   Maybe what OP is referring to is that it's just like a demo account that has a free bet to give and then it looks like you're betting real money but it's not really. Or it is also possible to bet using iPhone Pro Max as payment, just as an example, he did not take out any money here.

Then I remembered the original gambling, at that time it was not money that was used, but things that could be used for profit. And there was no money in those days as far as I know.

There is absolutely no way to earn real money by gambling on a demo account. this is for training only.  but nowadays people who are interested in gambling are so panicked that they don't feel any need to use demo account and they jump to gambling with real money. And on the other hand, gambling platforms often refrain from having demo account options. Because it is not used by many people now, on the other hand it creates a stress on the platform's servers due to which the site may slow down.  However, forex trading platforms have demo account options.