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Mate, don't worry about how many bitcoin you have right now, but worry about when you have nothing to invest. Even if you missed the best times to buy bitcoin at cheap price, you don't have to regret it now. The real regret is if you have nothing now because you have known bitcoin since almost 10 years, but you are still lucky to own 20% of 1 bitcoin.
If you are consistent to invest, then I'm sure sooner or later you will get it, even if you have decent income, then try to accumulate during this correction. It's an opportunity to buy more bitcoin before the halving, and hold them until a new ATH. I actually don't worry anymore, I'll accumulate as much as possible and whatever happens. I'm generally satisfied with my small but meaningful portfolio that I've developed throughout these years, despite not taking advantage of many opportunities that I came across. I don't own 0.20 BTC yet, but I'm hoping that I will soon enough. As an older user than me, you should know more about how you can grow your portfolio in the long term. You can also save signature campaign revenue as part of a long-term bitcoin accumulation plan, which I believe many other campaign participants are doing as well. If you have good source of income from your real job and you can afford to save, then you can also do additional accumulation to make your portfolio even better. Diversify if you want, or you can do it with just bitcoin.
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April 22, 2023, 03:55:02 PM |
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Now that the next BTC halving is less than a year away, i believe many people would wrongly become concerned about the amount of BTC's they have in their wallet, they'll try to sell some of their properties or borrow money to increase what they have in their wallet, many other people who do not have anything at all in their wallet and do not know too much about BTC would also want to buy some for themselves, because everyone thinks that after the halving they will immediately become so rich.
People should cut down on their investment and only invest money they feel they can lose, neither is borrowing or collecting loans a good way to buy BTC, for people that have the knowledge they would know that dca is the best way to buy BTC, and they will start doing it early, waiting for a few months before the halving to invest most of your savings is a bad choice.
This is certainly one parameter to take into account. The upcoming halving is getting hopes up for many investors, some of whom believe that they'll turn rich within the week after the halving. There's a decent chance that Bitcoin will thrive then, but there isn't a guarantee, and it won't happen in a matter of a few days. As an older user than me, you should know more about how you can grow your portfolio in the long term. You can also save signature campaign revenue as part of a long-term bitcoin accumulation plan, which I believe many other campaign participants are doing as well.
If you have good source of income from your real job and you can afford to save, then you can also do additional accumulation to make your portfolio even better. Diversify if you want, or you can do it with just bitcoin.
I've always saved my signature campaign earnings, even from the very first campaign. Most of my revenue was kept intact until 2021, if I remember correctly. That was sold somewhere around Christmas to start staking, which was quite an impulsive move now that I'm thinking about it. It turned out fine, but it could have gone a lot better. I always had a steady source of income, so I didn't resort to using any of my Bitcoin. However, I currently don't have the budget to invest myself and prefer sticking to saving any signature campaign earnings for long-term holding.
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April 22, 2023, 04:21:01 PM |
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I signed up on this forum in 2014 with minimal knowledge of cryptocurrencies and a restricted ability to comprehend their concept. Being a young teenager, you'll understand. On top of that, I had no way of acquiring it myself. Thus, I missed the opportunity to buy at ridiculously low prices (compared to today's). I gave up shortly after and reappeared on the forum in 2017 for about a year or two at most, abandoning it again and kicking some great opportunities once again.
I've seen an increasing trend over the past few months, mostly from newer BTT users striving to acquire as much Bitcoin as possible as soon as possible. Some even claim to sell their jewelry or other personal belongings in an attempt to acquire more capital to use towards a Bitcoin purchase. Other newbies claim that they found wallets filled with Bitcoin in the early stages, in an attempt to impress others, while a few days ago they'd be asking how to sign up on Binance or whatever. It's unclear whether any of these stories are true, but that's not the point.
The majority of us missed the boat when Bitcoin was cheap, and now acquiring a whole coin isn't affordable anymore. The average wage in Greece is approximately €800 (about €10,000 per year), while Bitcoin's price is at $27,500 as we speak (about €25,000), which means that I will need 2.5 years to acquire the requested amount of money, in the condition of not spending a single Euro, without taking into account any price increases. Thus, purchasing a whole coin would effectively require up to 6 or even 7 years for the average person in Greece.
I currently have less than 0.20 BTC, which is still a semi-decent amount for myself, the majority of which are from signature campaigns (huge thanks to Cryptobrainboss and Hampuzz for having me in their campaigns), and I'm totally okay with the idea of never owning a single Bitcoin; it's not the end of the world. So far, I'm earning an important side income through it, while spending time on the forum is like a hobby of mine now. This is what matters most to me.
To summarize, my point is that many of us won't become rich or earn a great deal of money through Bitcoin, but that's okay; money isn't the greatest goal in life. We missed the early stages, but that doesn't mean that we don't have a chance in the future. There's no need to regret anything, coming from someone who was here during the first years and missed the boat. It's completely unnecessary to stress over how to acquire more and go above and beyond by selling stuff or exceeding the budget you can afford. Stick to what you can afford to spend and stick to that plan; don't go to extreme measures; and remember, there are no guarantees in investments.
First of all you should be grateful that you discovered bitcoin way before many other people and, especially, you understood why bitcoin is important, not everyone gets it. And I wouldn't compare yourself, your salary and your bitcoin to other people's , everyone is different, everyone has a different background and a different story. For you 0,20 BTC is a small amount, I'm sure there are a lot of people out there that can only dream of owning that amount. But I get it, it's part of the human nature, the more we get, the more we want, and of course we make comparisons towards people who have more than us, no less.
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Stop thinking about the amount. Be grateful with what you already have. The more you run after something, the further it goes. This kind of thing happens when you compare yourself to others. Stop doing it and focus on what you have. It will become more precious to you, even it's a very low amount. Everything takes time. If owning 1 BTC is your goal, then take your time, you will reach your goal for sure. The more you want to get close to it, the more you will find yourself away from it. If you can learn to not focus on the results and keep working for it, you can even surpass that goal if you can do it. Trust the process. _tjtonmoy
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April 22, 2023, 06:01:52 PM |
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This thread reminds me when I was new on Bitcoin and crypto currency communities and at first I did not understand completely the need we all had to implement sub-units of Bitcoin on Wallets and even on exchanges. But nowadays I understand that using excessive decimals while dealing with assets can awake a sense of urgency on people to feel acomplished and be onwers of a single unit of the asset they trust. That also happens with gold and there is a similar phenomenon with the FIAT, people used to fix their attention on the "1 million dollar" amount. It is okey to want to have 1 coin, we are talking of money after all. Who wouldnt like more money? But we should not belittle ourselves over it and be aware that a handful of Satoshis are worth hundreds of shitcoins. That is why Bitcoin is still the queen of this market. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 22, 2023, 06:28:16 PM |
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A little bit defeatist but as the Buddhist teachings go, contentment is the way to success.
If you're diligent enough, pretty sure you'd get more than the .20 BTC you have right now, these signature campaigns we're in pay good money anyway, so there's a high possibility that, provided that you don't do anything with your bitcointalk earnings, in the future you may earn your first bitcoin too, but I know that's not what you're shooting for anymore.
At the end of the day, there's still other ways to earn more money in the future, something that wouldn't involve earning a whole bitcoin to be successful, you seem like a decent guy, and your reputation in this forum is good enough for you to be entrusted with a campaign that pays handsomely. Just keep at it and you'd be able to reach your financial goal (I believe so), whether it be earning bitcoins or not.
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April 22, 2023, 06:38:03 PM |
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This thread reminds me when I was new on Bitcoin and crypto currency communities and at first I did not understand completely the need we all had to implement sub-units of Bitcoin on Wallets and even on exchanges. But nowadays I understand that using excessive decimals while dealing with assets can awake a sense of urgency on people to feel acomplished and be onwers of a single unit of the asset they trust. That also happens with gold and there is a similar phenomenon with the FIAT, people used to fix their attention on the "1 million dollar" amount. It is okey to want to have 1 coin, we are talking of money after all. Who wouldnt like more money? But we should not belittle ourselves over it and be aware that a handful of Satoshis are worth hundreds of shitcoins. That is why Bitcoin is still the queen of this market. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) We know that human beings are ones who doesnt really have that contentment and if they do saw someone who do own lots of coins then its neither they would really be getting jealous or would really be making it as an inspiration for them to reached out and accumulate 1 whole coin on their entire life.Yes, the amount involved isnt anyone could be able to easily to accumulate with and this is why we do really end up on other options on accumulating in fractions which is something not a bad thing at all.Dont make yourself that get desperate on getting a whole coin because even on small fractions would only do and the most important thing is that you do able to hit up something when it comes to target and goals.
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April 22, 2023, 06:53:21 PM |
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To summarize, my point is that many of us won't become rich or earn a great deal of money through Bitcoin, but that's okay; money isn't the greatest goal in life. We missed the early stages, but that doesn't mean that we don't have a chance in the future. There's no need to regret anything, coming from someone who was here during the first years and missed the boat. It's completely unnecessary to stress over how to acquire more and go above and beyond by selling stuff or exceeding the budget you can afford. Stick to what you can afford to spend and stick to that plan; don't go to extreme measures; and remember, there are no guarantees in investments.
I like your honest take on this which I believe comes from a place of deep self-awareness. You seem like an easy-going person who doesn't see the accumulation of bitcoin as a "I must get it by all means." People like you eventually no matter how long, would get it 1 bitcoin. And what you said is the truth, it is a statistical destiny that most of us won't become rich or earn a great deal of money through Bitcoin. However, bitcoin will be able to make some positive changes in our lives. Such as helping us to meet an urgent need, help us to bypass country-restricted border transactions. Summarily, we should diversify our portfolio - a little bitcoin here, a little stock there, a little real-estate investment here, a little other investment there. That's how it should be. And everyone lives happily ever after.
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April 22, 2023, 06:59:01 PM |
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I signed up on this forum in 2014 with... ... ... the budget you can afford. Stick to what you can afford to spend and stick to that plan; don't go to extreme measures; and remember, there are no guarantees in investments.
I think it's not quite right to calculate in how many years you will save up only for bitcoin. After all, in addition to your salary, you also get a subscription (if you, like me, also have a full-time job). Plus, it should be taken into account that you can engage in trading - those who know how to do this will save up for bitcoin much faster than others. Plus, you can participate in contests where you can win good money in cryptocurrency. And of course you need to take risks - someone will be able to get rich quickly, someone will spend everything. Also, the price of bitcoin is changing, and tomorrow it may start to cost 100k. The main thing is to work with cryptocurrencies in a convenient, reasonable rhythm, and not to set strict goals for yourself.
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April 22, 2023, 07:08:59 PM |
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I enjoyed your post summary and the angle with which you presented your candid thoughts, OP. I too doubt, if I will ever hold or own a whole Bitcoin. It is quite true how most of us would have owned some if we had the early initiative, while it was Still cheap. Right now, even if I can't have the whole Bitcoin, earnings from BTT campaigns has more than compensated for that and with the knowledge I have gained so far here, I can easily invest in other areas, mostly acquiring shares and trades, of which is sure to yield interest over time.
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April 22, 2023, 07:09:35 PM |
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To summarize, my point is that many of us won't become rich or earn a great deal of money through Bitcoin, but that's okay; money isn't the greatest goal in life. We missed the early stages, but that doesn't mean that we don't have a chance in the future. There's no need to regret anything, coming from someone who was here during the first years and missed the boat.
The point is indeed here. When we want to get rich from investing in Bitcoin, this actually can happen. The question is how rich do we want to be, how long will it take us to be rich, and also how much money do we invest so we can become rich? Because the answer to this question will certainly be different for everyone. Bitcoin is one of the more reputable crypto investment choices not because we want to get rich quicker, but because we believe in Bitcoin, in how Bitcoin will be able to reach high numbers again and with this we can take advantage of the bearish and bullish momentum. This is widely used by people to make high profits by taking advantage of these two moments. And Bitcoin is also reliable compared to investing in altcoins, which in my opinion is more risky.
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April 22, 2023, 07:14:03 PM |
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To summarize, my point is that many of us won't become rich or earn a great deal of money through Bitcoin, but that's okay; money isn't the greatest goal in life. We missed the early stages, but that doesn't mean that we don't have a chance in the future. There's no need to regret anything, coming from someone who was here during the first years and missed the boat. It's completely unnecessary to stress over how to acquire more and go above and beyond by selling stuff or exceeding the budget you can afford. Stick to what you can afford to spend and stick to that plan; don't go to extreme measures; and remember, there are no guarantees in investments.
I can literally relate to the most part of your story and whatever you said. I was also in the same situation back then, came to know about Bitcoin very early, when the price was only about $400 but didn't have any funds to buy, tried my best and earned some back in the days but then spent them not having any idea about the future. Just like you, I have seen the price soaring high in front of my eyes but could never use it in my favor since I was too young and didn't have any money to buy or anything that I could sell and invest in Bitcoin. Now when things are different, the price is obviously too high.
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Being late to the Bitcoin party can feel like a punch to the gut, like the chance of a lifetime slipped away. But as you astutely observe, cash isn't life's crowning achievement; fulfillment can be found elsewhere.
Indeed, by embodying Bitcoin's philosophy and the broader crypto ethos, you might uncover a sense of purpose and camaraderie that outshines simple financial gains. Decentralization, transparency, and innovation—cryptocurrency's pillars—are awe-inspiring. Dive headfirst into the community, join the grand debate, and unearth a profound sense of purpose.
Money isn't insignificant, naturally. However, adopting a holistic and philosophical perspective in your crypto endeavors could lead to a gratification that outshines mere wealth.
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To summarize, my point is that many of us won't become rich or earn a great deal of money through Bitcoin, but that's okay; money isn't the greatest goal in life. We missed the early stages, but that doesn't mean that we don't have a chance in the future. There's no need to regret anything, coming from someone who was here during the first years and missed the boat. It's completely unnecessary to stress over how to acquire more and go above and beyond by selling stuff or exceeding the budget you can afford. Stick to what you can afford to spend and stick to that plan; don't go to extreme measures; and remember, there are no guarantees in investments.
I had also missed the early stages of Bitcoin because of the doubt and lack of knowledge about crypto currency. I feel a bit sad of missing that stages but those times is not really meant for me. Though we cannot invest a single bitcoin now because of the high value, but it awakens my inner self to strive harder to find other source of income to be able to acquire or invest in Bitcoin and of course i will never ever get a loan just to acquire it. There are still a lot of time to pursue to be able to invest in bitcoin. We need to work hard to earn more to be able to invest.
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April 23, 2023, 09:24:41 AM |
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Don't try to limit your self OP, there's opportunity out there waiting to happen in the future that might make you eat the words that you're saying right now and I think it helps a lot if you're optimistic, if you have other means to make money to slowly accumulate more bitcoin then I would respectfully disagree with you.
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April 23, 2023, 09:37:25 AM |
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People who are only just starting to get into bitcoin now will struggle to ever get a whole bitcoin, especially if tgey are not in a First World country & earning a good salary. Like you say OP though, that is OK. It’s said very often but there are only 21,000,000 to ever exist so there isn’t even close to enough for each millionaire in the world to own a whole bitcoin, let alone the entire population.
Just save what you can because every single satoshi is precious. Bitcoin is the best money to ever exist, get as much as you can because over long term the price is only going up.
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April 23, 2023, 10:06:27 AM |
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To summarize, my point is that many of us won't become rich or earn a great deal of money through Bitcoin, but that's okay; money isn't the greatest goal in life. We missed the early stages, but that doesn't mean that we don't have a chance in the future. There's no need to regret anything, coming from someone who was here during the first years and missed the boat. It's completely unnecessary to stress over how to acquire more and go above and beyond by selling stuff or exceeding the budget you can afford. Stick to what you can afford to spend and stick to that plan; don't go to extreme measures; and remember, there are no guarantees in investments.
Everything takes time; some people missed out on early Bitcoin investments due to a lack of knowledge about the entire process, but after gaining that knowledge, they return and continue to invest in Bitcoin even as the price has skyrocketed due to their faith in the overall financial freedom Bitcoin has brought to us. Though I regret not being among the early investors, I am grateful to have invested in Bitcoin at this stage because the price is below my expectations, so I am happy with what I have and am willing to buy more; I hope the price remains in this range for a while before shooting up .
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The majority of us missed the boat when Bitcoin was cheap, and now acquiring a whole coin isn't affordable anymore. The average wage in Greece is approximately €800 (about €10,000 per year), while Bitcoin's price is at $27,500 as we speak (about €25,000), which means that I will need 2.5 years to acquire the requested amount of money, in the condition of not spending a single Euro, without taking into account any price increases. Thus, purchasing a whole coin would effectively require up to 6 or even 7 years for the average person in Greece.
Regardless of the fact that you've missed some opportunities in the past, trust me it's not too late to own 1 BTC one day, but only if you're ready to embark on that journey today. Of course, that would require a little (perhaps a lot) sacrifice and maybe another job on the side and a good investment strategy. Whether it's classic DCA, accumulating fiat and waiting for a big crash or selling your BTC on the way to ATH and then reinvesting in it at several times lower prices. Let's say that the next ATH will happen sometime in the second half of next year and that the price of 1 BTC will be x5 from today, which would mean somewhere around $150k and that you have around 0.25 BTC to sell, which would bring in around $37k. If you consider that the correction that follows the ATH usually wipes out about 70% or more of the value of BTC, for the money you got selling 0.25 BTC you could buy a whole one or at least close to it. It's not high math or anything like that, but at least it's something worth thinking about when looking at historical data related to Bitcoin ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I agree with the general idea of the responses. One should not become obsessed with owning 1 BTC. It is a round figure that fascinates many of us because of its present value and possible future value, but everyone should acquire as much or as litte as they can, as they are sure to be better off in the future if they have accumulated some BTC than if they have not.
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Most people on earth will never own a whole bitcoin, and that's okay. 21 mln.BTC purely from mathematical calculations are not enough for everyone, especially since whales have a large proportion of them. So you don't stand out in any way (Except that a lot of people don't have 0.2BTC and never will).
The Greeks are still lucky to get $10,000 a year. In many other countries, accumulating 1 whole bitcoin can take 2-3 times longer than yours. Your conditions are not the worst yet.
Not being able to own 1BTC is not the end of the world. You shouldn't dwell on it.
Worrying about past missed opportunities is useless. I prefer to look to the future and I agree that trying to jump beyond your capabilities will not succeed and a balance should be found between investment and comfort.
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