Retirement Age for Workers - Does this Make Sense?

[safar1980]

I'm not sure if this is the situation in all countries, but in my country for many years there was a policy that people received approximately the same pension. One has been working for 25 years and the other for 35 years, but people's pensions did not differ much. If you want to get a big pension today, then you or your employer must pay a lot of taxes. The retirement age is constantly rising, and not many people live to this age. But you have to trust the state in this difficult time, or think about your pension on your own.

[Asiska02]

Regardless, what I think is that the government shouldn't shove it down the throat of people. Workers who are approaching retirement age should be given a choice after appraisal to keep working or retire.

What sense does this make? Would you agree or disagree?

There’s a lot of ups and downs in your perception on what need to be done about retirement age. Some people after retirement always end up miserable because they didn’t plan well for their retirement or maybe government policy that is not favoring retirees.

Another disadvantage of leaving worker to decide when to retire is the fact that some countries doesn’t have the capacity to accommodate more workers without retiring the old ones and hence can lead to low productivity in economy of the country entirely. The idea of which to go for, whether to retire workers when they reach the age limit set by the government or they retire at their own will depends on how it’ll favour the overall economy and wellbeing of the people.

[Cling18]

I'm not sure if this is the situation in all countries, but in my country for many years there was a policy that people received approximately the same pension. One has been working for 25 years and the other for 35 years, but people's pensions did not differ much. If you want to get a big pension today, then you or your employer must pay a lot of taxes. The retirement age is constantly rising, and not many people live to this age. But you have to trust the state in this difficult time, or think about your pension on your own.

The retirement age in our nation is 60 years old, but it has been discussed raising it to 65 years old, which is a good thing because there are still elderly people who wish to work to support themselves. Since the majority of them want to have successful careers before retiring, I don't see any issues with it. For us to be able to continue to enjoy life as we age, we must lay a strong foundation for our careers while we are still young. We should constantly consider saving and planning for the future as long as we are strong and capable of working.

[flyingcarpet]

Such is the case in my country as well. The main thing to discuss here is; Is the pension sufficient to sustain one's life? What is the difference between the salary that a person receives while working and the salary he will receive when he retires? This is the main determining factor. Therefore, rather than asking the person's opinion, the main issue is the difference between the pension and the salary he receives while working.

[coin-investor]

Regardless, what I think is that the government shouldn't shove it down the throat of people. Workers who are approaching retirement age should be given a choice after appraisal to keep working or retire.

What sense does this make? Would you agree or disagree?

They should be given that option and they deserve that because they contributed to the company's growth, the company should assess the employer if he is still fit to work and what work in the department he is convenient at his age.
We all hate the word retirement when we are workaholics and we treat our job as something part of our existence, there are senior people who have a good memory and can still keep up they have become very organized through the years and developed an insight on their work through the years.

[robelneo]

France's Constitutional Council on Friday approved an unpopular plan to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64, in a victory for President Emmanuel Macron after three months of mass protests over the legislation that have damaged his leadership.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-retirement-age-raise-64-approved-constitutional-council/

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The majority of the Unions don't want it

Unions have vowed to continue protest actions in an attempt to get Macron to simply withdraw the measure.

In a country like ours, our senior workers hate the word retirement because their pension can not keep up with the standard of living, it may be different from France because they don't want it, and it being unpopular in France makes us conclude that senior citizen in that country wants to enjoy the fruit of their labor by retiring early than what was proposed by their leader.

For a rich country where a senior retiree has a lot of benefits, they want to enjoy it as early as possible but for a third-world country a $100 to $200 worth of pension will not be enough.

[BVeyron]

France's Constitutional Council on Friday approved an unpopular plan to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64, in a victory for President Emmanuel Macron after three months of mass protests over the legislation that have damaged his leadership.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-retirement-age-raise-64-approved-constitutional-council/

This so-called measure has several benefits and drawbacks. The elder employees can benefit from their years of experience if they are retained on the job for longer, which is one advantage. The drawback of this is that many workplaces will report low performance because there is an inverse relationship between a person's success at work and their deterioration in cognitive and physical capacities.

Regardless, what I think is that the government shouldn't shove it down the throat of people. Workers who are approaching retirement age should be given a choice after appraisal to keep working or retire.

What sense does this make? Would you agree or disagree?

I strongly agree with this, everyone reaching retirement age should have choice: either its time for retirement, or he or she has some energy to stay in job. The real problem lying beneath issues with retirement age is overall income difference: a janitor with a bunch of chronic diseases and with no savings must be free after years of so unpleasant work. And if it's a CEO or entrepreneur, or high rank civil servant with millions of dollars lying under his/her bed, doing nothing but creating schemes to deceive employees and rivals... Then its totally a different age-related retirement case...

[cydrix]

It is logical. In spite of the fact that older people may still be capable and ready to work, ageism in the workplace is a serious problem that can lead to forced retirement. It's crucial to balance experience and productivity when weighing the advantages and disadvantages of keeping older workers on staff. While experience can be extremely helpful, it's also critical to understand how physical and cognitive aging might impact work effectiveness. To accommodate older workers and maximize their contributions while minimizing the detrimental effects on their health and well-being, employers should take into account alternative arrangements like part-time work, flexible hours, or job sharing.

[coupable]

Retirement age also in need and useful to implement in every organization so that the weak ones can give ways and opportunities for the young ones and youths to be replaced. It is a chance given previlage for the young ones,  I think retirement age for workers makes sense in my own view and little understanding.

Retirement for workers shouldn't only to rely on the social insurance funds that all countries provide to their citizens. In my country, for example, every person pays insurance expenses at least once a year, or deductions are made from the wages of employees once every three months, so that they get a fixed wage upon reaching the retirement age, which ranges on average between 60 and 65 years. Determining the retirement age is subject to many factors, the most important of which is the economic conditions of the state and its compatibility with the age structure of the population.
The good thing about this plan is that you can pay as much as you want, and according to those payments, the retirement age wage will be determined ; I mean, if your current circumstances are good, you can pay a large amount, and if the circumstances do not allow, then the little amount available can be satisfied.

[ethereumhunter]

It is logical. In spite of the fact that older people may still be capable and ready to work, ageism in the workplace is a serious problem that can lead to forced retirement. It's crucial to balance experience and productivity when weighing the advantages and disadvantages of keeping older workers on staff. While experience can be extremely helpful, it's also critical to understand how physical and cognitive aging might impact work effectiveness. To accommodate older workers and maximize their contributions while minimizing the detrimental effects on their health and well-being, employers should take into account alternative arrangements like part-time work, flexible hours, or job sharing.

It was logical but at least the parents realized they were getting older and didn't force themselves to keep working and it was time to retire. If the government gives them more time to work, they can do it if they are still strong and can work well. But if not, they should choose to retire and enjoy their days well without thinking about work problems. After all, having worked for more than 10-20 years seems enough for them to provide the best for their office, company or business. It is time to give that responsibility to the young ones to continue and develop it so that it is even better.

Physical ageing is inevitable and their performance will not be as good as when they were young. In addition, companies may incur more costs for them, especially for health checks, because the elderly are prone to health problems. And it would be better to realize that it was enough for them to create and now is the time to enjoy the results. But people who still want to enjoy all the facilities of the office or company will not let go easily and will continue to try to keep working despite their limitations.

[yhiaali3]

Yes, workers should have the option to stay after the age of 50-60, in my opinion, because human abilities differ from one person to another. Some people weaken early at the age of 50, while others retain their strength until 70 years.

This is on the one hand, on the other hand, in developing countries, where government salaries are insignificant and not sufficient to cover living, forcing workers to work up to 60 years with these ridiculous salaries, so workers must have the right to stay or retire before reaching this age.

[Kelward]

some people might think differently, it's everyone's right whether they still want to work after retiring from their last place of work because there is already an age limit for that.
and also there are many activities that can be done after retirement for example trading farming, fishing, or any other activity that I think has no age limit while you can still do it.

I agree that it's people's right to decide whether to continue to work after retirement. It becomes their decision to make since they are no longer employed to anyone. If you are an employee, you must know that your employer is the one that will make decisions about your work, including when he feels that you are due for retirement. You don't have much choice when the employee wants to review salary or retirement age. So going further, I also agree that it is good that an employee that wants to continue work after retirement should have plan for a business that has no age limit, as you rightly mentioned.

[BobK71]

People lose their ability to work after a certain time. As a result, he has to go to retirement since it was a specific time. But the main thing is that when a man retires, he is not the one he becomes. However, many people may have a slight problem in the work and many can perform the task naturally. However, the government must give a specific limit here otherwise the discipline will not remain. However, if the government extended the time here to 2-4 years, it would have been more associated. Because some are able to work enough at that time.

[Spaceman1000$]

Experience they say, is never out of fashion. It is important to always tap from the wealth of knowledge of the elderly, because over the years they've had so much techniques and expertise while working for a certain organisation.
 In the field experience for instance, a newly recruited police officer might not be well baked on how to file a case for prosecution  for a court hearing, at this point, it will take an experience police prosecutor to properly guide the new officer on how to appropriately go about the filing of the case for hearing.
So you see that In this case, experience has played a great role.

But a lot of people will argue that, the younger ones are not getting jobs, why are you increasing the service years of those that already gotten jobs, so there is always a two side argument whenever this topics is raised.

[og kush420]

Experience they say, is never out of fashion. It is important to always tap from the wealth of knowledge of the elderly, because over the years they've had so much techniques and expertise while working for a certain organisation.
 In the field experience for instance, a newly recruited police officer might not be well baked on how to file a case for prosecution  for a court hearing, at this point, it will take an experience police prosecutor to properly guide the new officer on how to appropriately go about the filing of the case for hearing.
So you see that In this case, experience has played a great role.

But a lot of people will argue that, the younger ones are not getting jobs, why are you increasing the service years of those that already gotten jobs, so there is always a two side argument whenever this topics is raised.

agreed - vaild point stated
neither does the hard work - if someone is a hard worker and hosnet worker he would not be failed person

[ChiBitCTy]

France's Constitutional Council on Friday approved an unpopular plan to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64, in a victory for President Emmanuel Macron after three months of mass protests over the legislation that have damaged his leadership.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-retirement-age-raise-64-approved-constitutional-council/

This so-called measure has several benefits and drawbacks. The elder employees can benefit from their years of experience if they are retained on the job for longer, which is one advantage. The drawback of this is that many workplaces will report low performance because there is an inverse relationship between a person's success at work and their deterioration in cognitive and physical capacities.

Regardless, what I think is that the government shouldn't shove it down the throat of people. Workers who are approaching retirement age should be given a choice after appraisal to keep working or retire.

What sense does this make? Would you agree or disagree?

I think this all depends on how other money is spent in France by the government, that force them to make this change of moving the retirement date back. This is the reason I stress to my clients that they should be saving as if social security (our version of France’s retirement package you speak of here) isn’t going to exist when it comes to time for them to retire. Never count on the government to do it all for you. Plan as if they won’t, and if they do provide retirement of some sort when it comes to your time ..then it’ll be icing on the cake and a much more comfortable retirement.

[Similificator]

It would be really sad for the people who have already made plans years before the age of 62 to travel and go on vacations with their families. Regardless of the pros and cons that accompany this decision, it would have been better if the people were given the choice on when they want to retire without compromising the benefits that they'd be able to receive. This is because for some, their work has been stressful and detrimental for their health both mentally and physically after enduring it for years while for others, it is what gives meaning to their existence, or should I say, it makes them feel a sense of purpose; that they are still useful and capable. Governments should be more compassionate towards its people so to receive as much compassion as well that would make things better for the whole country. Forcing people to work against their will when they have already dedicated so many years of their lives to their jobs, would only degrade the quantity and quality of work in the long run. Not to mention the negative views that people would have towards their government that should have been taking care of them instead of treating them like slaves.

[xSkylarx]

I am not even close to retirement but is it better to have it early right?  I really dont know well about retirement but if you move it for few years then it think it is inefficient to the worker as he is too old to do the task and i dont really see a reason moving it to +2 years and i think all of us aiming for early retirement as we know that we will be receiving pension closed to what we earned monthly but still this depends on the government or private sector as other will really force you to retire without pension due to other circumstances but i dont like have additional on retirement age

[Gallar]

France's Constitutional Council on Friday approved an unpopular plan to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64, in a victory for President Emmanuel Macron after three months of mass protests over the legislation that have damaged his leadership.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-retirement-age-raise-64-approved-constitutional-council/

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What sense does this make? Would you agree or disagree?

In my opinion, being able to retire at the age of 60 is considered very old, especially more than that age. How do you want to enjoy retirement, when you don't sleep well enough, you don't eat well, and when you're in your 60s and over, your body's stamina will definitely decrease. So I think, if someone can retire from a job over the age of 60, I think that's a little bit unfair. Because even if forced to work, surely the performance will not be optimal and not as good as people who are under 60 years old. I don't underestimate it, but at that age, in my opinion, it's not worth it to continue working. In your 60s, you should be able to enjoy the fruits of your labor more, playing with your grandchildren, children, and taking vacations. Because in your 60s, it's like an age bonus.

Although in france, the average human age can reach more than 60 years.

In France, the population has an average age of 82.4 years.

Source: https://www.halodoc.com/artikel/8-negara-dengan-penduduk-yang-berusia-panjang#:~:text=3.%20France,age%20population%2082%2C4%20years.

But that's just average, and it's very lucky if someone can touch that age. Because when it comes to age no one knows, because that is the secret above.

[mindrust]

France's Constitutional Council on Friday approved an unpopular plan to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64, in a victory for President Emmanuel Macron after three months of mass protests over the legislation that have damaged his leadership.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-retirement-age-raise-64-approved-constitutional-council/

This so-called measure has several benefits and drawbacks. The elder employees can benefit from their years of experience if they are retained on the job for longer, which is one advantage. The drawback of this is that many workplaces will report low performance because there is an inverse relationship between a person's success at work and their deterioration in cognitive and physical capacities.

Regardless, what I think is that the government shouldn't shove it down the throat of people. Workers who are approaching retirement age should be given a choice after appraisal to keep working or retire.

What sense does this make? Would you agree or disagree?

If you need the government retirement plan in your late age you are fucked anyway. Retiring at 62-64? No fucking way. How about making investments while you were young and getting retired at 50? 40? or even 35? Now that sounds cool. The government can take that retirement plan and stick it to the place where the sun don't shine. Unfortunately for the most people, they need that shit to survive and that's a terrible thing. Now they need to work 2 more years just to what? get retired on a shitty gov plan. You only live once, plan accordingly.