Scam accusation of a gambling site

[Oshosondy]

I have seen some members on this forum that reported gambling sites on gambling main board before, but some users on this forum posted that they should move the thread to scam accusation board. For me, I think the thread about allegation against a gambling site can also be on gambling main board where most gamblers on this forum can see it too, not necessarily about it to be in scam accusation board, but if it is in scam accusation board, there is no problem.

In short, what I am saying is that allegation against a gambling site can also be on the main gambling board or am I wrong? Answer from a moderator would be much appreciated.

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[PX-Z]

I have seen some members on this forum that reported gambling sites on gambling main board before, but some users on this forum posted that they should move the thread to scam accusation board. For me, I think the thread about allegation against a gambling site can also be on gambling main board
In short, what I am saying is that allegation against a gambling site can also be on the main gambling board or am I wrong? Answer from a moderator would be much appreciated.

If its more on complains, rants, how bad their CS, service, etc. the gambling discussion board is good. But if it has more information, evidence, chat logs, etc. and trying to seek help, scam accusation board should be better and the thread should be moved there. But of course, creating topics on the 2 board is okay too as long it falls on what i have mentioned. Just my opinion.

[Adbitco]

Usually there are sections for it, whenever scam accusation is being raised it will be discussed over there after the verification and they noticed it was scammed truly then it will be moved.
I know your points, but the forum doesn't work that way they always moved every topics and post where is belongs. I actually really love your suggestions so that gamblers could have a clearer view of any already existing scam accusations.

[light_warrior]

There are certain rules about posting personal information on the forum. Theymos prohibits posting personal information anywhere on the forum except on the Scam Accusations board. Therefore, if a topic contains personal information, then such a topic must necessarily be in the proper place. You can read the policy here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1576015.0

[Hispo]

I have noticed those accusations there in the board and most of the occasions I can see people directing the OPs to move the thread to the Scam accusation section.

I personally do not mind to see those threads on the gambling section and if we think about it, it is true it is more likely for both gamblers and agents of the casinos to notice those cases if they are shared there.

However, with the volume many casinos can have and the amount of people which could claim to have been scammed when actually they tried to broke the rules of the casino or simply lost much money, could lead to spammy behavior in the board. So I don't know, I assume it has both pros and cons. I'll wait for an official answer as well. 

[acroman08]

In short, what I am saying is that allegation against a gambling site can also be on the main gambling board or am I wrong? Answer from a moderator would be much appreciated.

I am not certain but I think the mods already put this into consideration. I have seen scam accusation threads in the past being posted on the gambling board not being moved to the scam accusation board despite someone saying that the thread should be moved.

If its more on complains, rants, how bad their CS, service, etc. the gambling discussion board is good. But if it has more information, evidence, chat logs, etc. and trying to seek help, scam accusation board should be better and the thread should be moved there. But of course, creating topics on the 2 board is okay too as long it falls on what i have mentioned. Just my opinion.

I agree with this, threads like ranting, complaining, etc... about a casino shouldn't be moved to the scam accusations board.

[JeromeTash]

If we are to go by the logic. Then It also means scam ICO's and tokens should have their scam accusations posted in the Altcoin discussion board?
Scam services, should their scam accusations posted in the services board?
Scam HYIPs and Ponzi schemes should have their scam accusations posted in the Investor-based games board?
Scam exchanges should have their scam accusations posted in the exchanges board?

Then what exactly would be the point of the scam accusations board?

I think it's all about organization here. I don't want to head over in the gambling board looking for threads made by different casinos about the services they offer only to see scam accusations about 1xbit covering half the page.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

In short, what I am saying is that allegation against a gambling site can also be on the main gambling board or am I wrong? Answer from a moderator would be much appreciated.

Let's speak from common understanding.
If someone lose their coins from a wallet then should they create a topic about the scam on Wallet software sub-board?
Someone lost their money in a scam exchange, should they create the same on the Service Discussion sub-board?
Or an ICO scammed their investors then should they be on the Altcoin announcement section?

Scam accusation board is a common board for everything that is related to scam and report the scam. Gambling sites are the same.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

The only problem some people have is that they are too lazy to really do a concrete search about casinos or gambling platforms before using them, because if a casino is not legit or reputable, there are always some scam accusations that may have been made against them, and if one takes the time to search about the reputation score of a gambling platform before using it, they will find out if it's safe for use or not.

The truth is that the forum has been laid out in accordance with the way boards are supposed to be organized and the purpose of each board being organized appropriately. So while all scam accusations go to the appropriate board, it's left for someone who really wants to get the best out of a gambling platform to use the forum search and type just the name of the casino they want to know, and they will see all the boards or threads where the name of the gambling platform has been mentioned.

[MainIbem]

In short, what I am saying is that allegation against a gambling site can also be on the main gambling board or am I wrong? Answer from a moderator would be much appreciated.

Let's speak from common understanding.
If someone lose their coins from a wallet then should they create a topic about the scam on Wallet software sub-board?
Someone lost their money in a scam exchange, should they create the same on the Service Discussion sub-board?
Or an ICO scammed their investors then should they be on the Altcoin announcement section?

Scam accusation board is a common board for everything that is related to scam and report the scam. Gambling sites are the same.

This is not possible to having all those sub-forum created because just as said, the scam accusation board already solve the problems if anyone visit that board they would see those scam about those project or gambling sites.
The forum may not creates another sub-forum @Oshosondy for gambling sections due wanting the scam sites to be visibly seen by users or visitors who always visits that gambling board.

[sheenshane]

...but some users on this forum posted that they should move the thread to scam accusation board.

I rather suggest creating another thread on the scam accusation board and following the scam report format.  I don't think there's a problem if you'll create another thread on the scam accusation board after posting on the gambling main board.
Bringing on the scam accusation board without valid evidence seems useless IMO.

So I tend to agree with this.

If its more on complains, rants, how bad their CS, service, etc. the gambling discussion board is good. But if it has more information, evidence, chat logs, etc. and trying to seek help, scam accusation board should be better and the thread should be moved there. But of course, creating topics on the 2 board is okay too as long it falls on what i have mentioned. Just my opinion.

[dzungmobile]

I have seen some members on this forum that reported gambling sites on gambling main board before, but some users on this forum posted that they should move the thread to scam accusation board. For me, I think the thread about allegation against a gambling site can also be on gambling main board where most gamblers on this forum can see it too, not necessarily about it to be in scam accusation board, but if it is in scam accusation board, there is no problem.

For me, it is good as of what we have now, what boards are available for Gambling discussions as well as Scam accusations.

If you need something more specific for Scam accusations in Gambling, you can make your proposal. Like a new child board in Gambling board with a child board name like "Scam accusations (Gambling)."

Before you raise your proposal, you must think that whether the forum need more child boards of other scam accusations such as Scam accusations (Mining), Scam accusations (Altcoins) and more.

Personally, I see the current Scam accusations child board is enough.

[Fiatless]

In short, what I am saying is that allegation against a gambling site can also be on the main gambling board or am I wrong? Answer from a moderator would be much appreciated.

This is not a bad idea because these accusations will be viewed easily and it could also serve as a reminder and warning to gamblers to avoid some platforms. But the forum has different sections mapped out for specific purposes. These sections help to make the forum more organized and easy to use. I think it is the responsibility of every gambler to do research on gambling sites or casinos intended to use. Therefore, the scam accusation section should be a regular section every member should access before choosing a service, product, or gambling operator.

[hilariousandco]

I don't think so. Most of the complaints just seem to be from sore losers or those who have been caught trying to abuse accounts etc and then when their funds get withheld they turn to the board just to try kick up a bit of a fuss and hope that will help. Any genuine scam accusation against them should just go in the Accusations board. If it's a legitimate complaint then the community can act on the accusation and leave appropriate feedback if necessary.

[Jawhead999]

I'd say scam accusations section is underrated, that's make people tend to post in other section.

Technically anything about scam or high likely will scam especially if it's involved to personal experience should be posted in scam accusations. But some people say if such thread can fit to various boards, even the thread got moved by moderators, the @OP sometime moved it back to the section where he posted lol.

Creating a new thread about scam in gambling section is spam, many members are also discuss about the scam or complaint in their official ANN thread.

[Doan9269]

In short, what I am saying is that allegation against a gambling site can also be on the main gambling board or am I wrong? Answer from a moderator would be much appreciated.

Since there's a designated board for scam accusation, it doesn't matter uf it's coming from gambling site, exchanges, or any other end source, all reports on scam should be treated on scam accusation board because that's the purpose for the board irrespective of what scam it is, gambling board or gambling discussion board is not meant for discussing a scam accusation but any other related matters concerning the gambling website can br brought into discuss there, they also uses such medium in passing out information on their website to their gamblers and attend to their challenges in using their casino, such could be informed of registration challenges, deposit or withdrawal challenges, KYC issues and many others.

[BenCodie]

I believe that there should be a "Disputes" board within the gambling board specifically for threads like this. How many gamblers actually go to the scam accusations board just to check if a site they have been using is still working as it should? I would say not many. I would say there are a portion who probably do not check the scam accusations board or even do a google before depositing...however I think that is just a small portion of people who are a little careless or reckless (as gamblers generally are).

I support that scam accusations or disputes should be in the gambling board for the sake of exposure directly to those who are using the casinos/games in that board, it would be a lot cleaner if a board was created specifically for them though.

[robelneo]

I have seen some members on this forum that reported gambling sites on gambling main board before, but some users on this forum posted that they should move the thread to scam accusation board. For me, I think the thread about allegation against a gambling site can also be on gambling main board where most gamblers on this forum can see it too, not necessarily about it to be in scam accusation board, but if it is in scam accusation board, there is no problem.

In short, what I am saying is that allegation against a gambling site can also be on the main gambling board or am I wrong? Answer from a moderator would be much appreciated.

It takes away the orderliness of the forum, each section has specific topics or discussions the scam section has a specific format to follow to make the subject qualified to be a scam discussion, and the gambling section also has a specific rule to follow like one announcement only, it's the gambler's responsibility to check the status of the casino they are playing.
It will not even takes a few second you'll just need to scroll down to get into the scam section.

[elevates]

I don't.understand why such scam accusations has to be on the Gambling board. It could be either on the Gambling discussion board or on Scam accusations. The Gambling board is not meant for accusations or reporting scam. It is about new Gambling ANN and anything which helps gamblers.

The scam accusations board suffice every kind of scam. If the user want to discuss about it then the gambling discussion board is suitable for it. To add context to the topic a user can share the link of his/her accusation thread. This is plane and simple, those who are active on gambling boards are the one who create scam accusations with a new userid. Everyone knows it!

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I'd say scam accusations section is underrated, that's make people tend to post in other section.

Not many people always visit Scam accusation, reputation and meta. There are may users who never even checked these boards. Specially the new accounts who do not have idea about the forum. When they get scammed by a casino then may search for information on the search engine then finds the topic about the casino on the gambling boards. They post their complains there. But the people know are experienced on the forum they can just lead him to the scam accusation board.

[dimonstration]

There are certain rules about posting personal information on the forum. Theymos prohibits posting personal information anywhere on the forum except on the Scam Accusations board. Therefore, if a topic contains personal information, then such a topic must necessarily be in the proper place. You can read the policy here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1576015.0

Most of the time scam accusation doesn’t contain personal info publicly to protect the user privacy while gambling company do the same because of their policy. AFAIK only Investigation thread allows posting of information because all data posted there is not available on public search.

I agree on OP with this matter. I’m not visiting scam accusation most of my time while reading the scam accusation thread on gambling makes me more inform because I usually hang out there. Perhaps a gambling scam accusation section is the solution to this problem? The number of scam accusation against casino is increasing maybe theymos will hear this suggestion.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Perhaps a gambling scam accusation section is the solution to this problem? The number of scam accusation against casino is increasing maybe theymos will hear this suggestion.

Let me echo it again if the =https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5449903.msg62142040#msg62142040other one does not make a sense to you.

So we have, gambling scam accusation.
What more we can have?
Exchange scam accusation
Mixer scam accusation
ICO scam accusation
Forum member scam accusation
1X***** scam accusation
Binance scam accusation
Telegram scam accusation
Google scam accusation
Facebook scam accusation
Bounty manager scam accusation
Bounty hunters scam accusation

Can someone else help me to find more? Please 😂

[Sandra_hakeem]

Not many people always visit Scam accusation, reputation and meta. There are may users who never even checked these boards. Specially the new accounts who do not have idea about the forum.

...it doesn't mean every scammy project needs to be posted around in all the boards, does it??
The forum has been sub-sectioned into diverse parts that makes it even more easier for anyone to surf; then finally, the search engines have also made the googling process more easier.... Hence, anyone that's really keen about learning on scammy projects would quickly browse over them on the reputation/scam accusation board. Alot of failed projects have been listed too and from that, a direct clue has been given... Anyone that wants to get registered on a casino should better lookup for them reviews...

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[Saisher]

I support that scam accusations or disputes should be in the gambling board for the sake of exposure directly to those who are using the casinos/games in that board, it would be a lot cleaner if a board was created specifically for them though.

I also support this, some newbies come here without knowing or being aware of the scam section all they know is the gambling board if we have this newbies coming in can easily see the dispute or gambling board accusation and even active players of casinos can see and will often visit the section and its because it's a dedicated gambling accusation there will be no HYIP or altcoins accusations.

[virasog]

I have seen some members on this forum that reported gambling sites on gambling main board before, but some users on this forum posted that they should move the thread to scam accusation board. For me, I think the thread about allegation against a gambling site can also be on gambling main board where most gamblers on this forum can see it too, not necessarily about it to be in scam accusation board, but if it is in scam accusation board, there is no problem.

In short, what I am saying is that allegation against a gambling site can also be on the main gambling board or am I wrong? Answer from a moderator would be much appreciated.

We have Gambling ANN threads in the gambling board. Now if people start creating new threads about the scam accusations against those gambling sites in Gambling or Gambling discussion boards, then it will just create a mess.

Sometimes the OP who initiated the thread never locks it and it will become a discussion thread for the gambling sites too within the gambling board.  Also, many gambling campaigns want their participants to post in gambling discussion boards, these scam accusations threads will become a spamming heaven for those participants.

For me, all the scam related stuff whether is a scam by the gambling project or by any other crypto project should go in the scam accusations board. Yes, one may post on the said gambling ANN thread too that an active scam accusation is running against the casino, so those who do not visit the scam accusations board regularly know through the ANN thread what's going on with the casino.

[Hyphen(-)]

I agree on OP with this matter. I’m not visiting scam accusation most of my time while reading the scam accusation thread on gambling makes me more inform because I usually hang out there.

I believe the forum was designed with different sections to make it easy for users to quickly access any information they require.

The name scam accusation alone will direct someone who is even new to the forum to get any information they require and to report any issue they have when they are scammed, which is why all scam issues were reported in the thread.

Perhaps a gambling scam accusation section is the solution to this problem? The number of scam accusation against casino is increasing maybe theymos will hear this suggestion.

If the gambling section has a scam accusation thread, it follows that any other sections that provide services such as exchanges will have theirs as well, and as a result, they may not receive the proper response they deserve because all scam accusations threads will require adequate support and response from experienced forum users, which may be difficult to obtain. 

[FatFork]

I agree on OP with this matter. I’m not visiting scam accusation most of my time while reading the scam accusation thread on gambling makes me more inform because I usually hang out there. Perhaps a gambling scam accusation section is the solution to this problem? The number of scam accusation against casino is increasing maybe theymos will hear this suggestion.

I still believe that the scam accusation board is the more appropriate place for such allegations. It's specifically designed for that purpose and can help keep the main gambling board focused on other discussions related to gambling. Plus, the casino representatives and support staff can better monitor and handle scam accusations in a dedicated board.

[UmerIdrees]

If the gambling section has a scam accusation thread, it follows that any other sections that provide services such as exchanges will have theirs as well, and as a result, they may not receive the proper response they deserve because all scam accusations threads will require adequate support and response from experienced forum users, which may be difficult to obtain. 

This means that every section should have an additional sub-board of scam accusations which is not right. I think the current way of categorization of scam accusation thread is a perfect place to discuss all the scams.

I still believe that the scam accusation board is the more appropriate place for such allegations. It's specifically designed for that purpose and can help keep the main gambling board focused on other discussions related to gambling. Plus, the casino representatives and support staff can better monitor and handle scam accusations in a dedicated board.

Not only it is easy to track and respond in the scam accusation section and it will not create a sort of mess and confusion if we both have gambling announcement threads and the gambling sites' scam accusation threads on the same board. The current breakdown of the boards is perfect and there is no need to change any of this.

[coin-investor]

Not only it is easy to track and respond in the scam accusation section and it will not create a sort of mess and confusion if we both have gambling announcement threads and the gambling sites' scam accusation threads on the same board. The current breakdown of the boards is perfect and there is no need to change any of this.

And with so many scam accusations on casinos coming than Gambling announcements the gambling section might end up a scam accusation board sometimes there are 2 to 4 new scam accusations on casinos coming at the same time, like in the case of 1xbit I support creating a sub-board for casinos accusation and disputes but not on the gambling announcement or discussion board.
It will mess up the whole board.

[bettercrypto]

I have seen some members on this forum that reported gambling sites on gambling main board before, but some users on this forum posted that they should move the thread to scam accusation board. For me, I think the thread about allegation against a gambling site can also be on gambling main board where most gamblers on this forum can see it too, not necessarily about it to be in scam accusation board, but if it is in scam accusation board, there is no problem.

In short, what I am saying is that allegation against a gambling site can also be on the main gambling board or am I wrong? Answer from a moderator would be much appreciated.

Actually, what you said is correct, I also don't see anything wrong if a complainant posts on the mainboard apart from the scam accusation. Because it is also an awareness among the communities here on the forum platform.

       Now, maybe it just depends on whether the members believe in it or not. Because sometimes those who complain are also lacking in what they say and there are times when they just make fud against the casino gambling that they say.

[KingsDen]

I had once be an advocate of keep the accusation in the gambling board for easy accessibility of other gamblers. But on a second thought and reading what hilariousandco and BitcoinGirl.club said, permitting that gambling accusations remain in the gambling section will also mean that altcoin scams remain in the altcoins section.

If this happens, the main reputation and scam accusation board will lack activity and it will be difficult to track accusations and scams in the future. Having them in one board is unique.

[jrrsparkles]

I have seen some members on this forum that reported gambling sites on gambling main board before, but some users on this forum posted that they should move the thread to scam accusation board. For me, I think the thread about allegation against a gambling site can also be on gambling main board where most gamblers on this forum can see it too, not necessarily about it to be in scam accusation board, but if it is in scam accusation board, there is no problem.

In short, what I am saying is that allegation against a gambling site can also be on the main gambling board or am I wrong? Answer from a moderator would be much appreciated.

Then what's the point of having a dedicated section for posting such things?

Isn't acceptable that saying it will be more visible if we post on the main board instead of the appropriate board but you can report it in their ANN before going to scam accusation section.

I still see few members are posting allegations on main board but most of them are not really scam the user himself violated their ToS so their funds held, etc meanwhile they have no peace and shout that they are scammers.