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April 26, 2023, 01:21:50 PM |
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Awesome to hear that you permit the use of a VPN on your site without any penalties, but then that could be incredible in you don't demand KYC verification at some points because for a user that rreregistersa VPN under a different location or may become problematic to get such user verified of time come for that in the future.
I think that is something that needs to be looked into to avoid a future crisis that may arise from this.
It's why anyone who want to use VPN need to let the support know in order to make sure if you're not want to abuse it and being honest with your problem. Usually there are countries which have ISP restrict to reach casino sites, but the casino don't restrict the countries. So even though you're using VPN that connect to France, but you can tell them if you're from Spain and you can give them your Spain ID card, maybe with another strong proof to make sure you're come from Spain.
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April 26, 2023, 02:38:35 PM |
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maybe you can hire a streamer to stream while playing on your website because many of the gambling websites right now doing that.
Hiring streamer to promote is a trend these days, no doubt about it but I think it costs a lot of money especially if the streamer has a lot of followers. I think it is better for them to focus on in-site promotions first and maybe small advertising in this forum (can be review bounty, signature, or competitions). However if they have huge budget for promotion and advertisement, streamers can be one of the most effective ways to promote their casino.
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April 26, 2023, 06:33:24 PM |
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maybe you can hire a streamer to stream while playing on your website because many of the gambling websites right now doing that.
Hiring streamer to promote is a trend these days, no doubt about it but I think it costs a lot of money especially if the streamer has a lot of followers. I think it is better for them to focus on in-site promotions first and maybe small advertising in this forum (can be review bounty, signature, or competitions). However if they have huge budget for promotion and advertisement, streamers can be one of the most effective ways to promote their casino. although it is quite pricey but it will boost the website's promotion to other people like 500Casino hired a few YouTubers and streamers. i try to search 500casino and I found that they were already created in 2016 but I know them from last year by a YouTuber that played there
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BINOBI (OP)
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April 26, 2023, 06:40:27 PM |
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maybe you can hire a streamer to stream while playing on your website because many of the gambling websites right now doing that.
Hiring streamer to promote is a trend these days, no doubt about it but I think it costs a lot of money especially if the streamer has a lot of followers. I think it is better for them to focus on in-site promotions first and maybe small advertising in this forum (can be review bounty, signature, or competitions). However if they have huge budget for promotion and advertisement, streamers can be one of the most effective ways to promote their casino. although it is quite pricey but it will boost the website's promotion to other people like 500Casino hired a few YouTubers and streamers. i try to search 500casino and I found that they were already created in 2016 but I know them from last year by a YouTuber that played there At the moment we are preparing a major update, after which we will hire streamers / youtubers to advertise our resource. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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April 26, 2023, 08:12:45 PM |
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My advice is that it is better for you and the team to immediately make improvements to withdrawal transactions so that gamblers can feel good service because withdrawals are one of the priorities that must be carried out by the team. I hope that in the future the team can actually provide updates on instant withdrawals which aim to simplify and speed up the withdrawal process by gamblers. With instant withdrawals, the casino that you are promoting can be considered worthy and has good service to users. Remember, friends, don't let users feel disappointed there just because there are problems in the withdrawal process because it can damage the trust and reputation of your casino in the eyes of customers.
I think it's because they're still a small casino, so they're currently using manual withdrawal, they want to make sure people who want to withdraw aren't broke their rules. A big casino implementing instant withdrawal because they're not really care when the gambler only withdrawal small amount money. 15-30 minutes is still make sense, there are many small casinos will proceed your withdrawal after the next few hours. Precisely if they do development by having instant withdrawals it is more profitable because there can be an advantage over other small casinos. This kind of development will have a very good positive impact on the casinos they manage so that gamblers will be amazed and comfortable when gamblers make withdrawal transactions. The instant withdrawal feature doesn't matter if they are still a small or big casino and the withdrawal is a little or a lot but it's about the convenience and satisfaction of the customer. When small casinos have instant withdrawal feature then advantage and plus points they can have which can make more gamblers to register and play there. After all, this is a pretty good idea and needs to be seriously considered by the team so that it can be implemented immediately.
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April 26, 2023, 10:19:06 PM |
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the site seems great. but the interface has the feeling of being in the binance, maybe because of the theme colour. anyway, is binobi working on their gambling license? seems everything is ready on this site. it is good that you will be offering free play also, this will attract new users to try your site. with regard to kyc requirements, based from your registration terms, you may ask valid proof of identity when deem necessary. would be good if you are already licensed before you start asking from your players about kyc.
I do have that first impression too on which it does really look like Binance plus with those font and color scheme which you would really be having that kind of feeling that you've been dealing with Binance site. Well, it isnt really that a bad idea considering on making use of that color scheme which is really common specially for those people who do make use of said platform and now its been used on a gambling site. Overall design is great, having instant withdrawal then its always been good and as for KYC then it is really just the same among with those current existing ones. The thing they should focus now is on to run some signature campaign to increase up some exposure about their existence because if they wouldnt really be serious into this matter then it would be no shock if they wouldnt really be getting some users.
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April 26, 2023, 10:24:13 PM |
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the site seems great. but the interface has the feeling of being in the binance, maybe because of the theme colour. anyway, is binobi working on their gambling license? seems everything is ready on this site. it is good that you will be offering free play also, this will attract new users to try your site. with regard to kyc requirements, based from your registration terms, you may ask valid proof of identity when deem necessary. would be good if you are already licensed before you start asking from your players about kyc.
I do have that first impression too on which it does really look like Binance plus with those font and color scheme which you would really be having that kind of feeling that you've been dealing with Binance site. Well, it isnt really that a bad idea considering on making use of that color scheme which is really common specially for those people who do make use of said platform and now its been used on a gambling site. Overall design is great, having instant withdrawal then its always been good and as for KYC then it is really just the same among with those current existing ones. The thing they should focus now is on to run some signature campaign to increase up some exposure about their existence because if they wouldnt really be serious into this matter then it would be no shock if they wouldnt really be getting some users. + Showing those half breast exposure? Its always a plus and really looks that good in the eyes specially on male players but i do see that it is really just that too much or already that too inappropriate? Well this is really just that my feeling. Checking out some more things on FAQ https://binobi.com/promoSeems like that "What does the wager requirement mean?" link is broken on which i cant able to see on how much wagering requirement they do really need up specially into that deposit bonus. Seems like its need to be fixed or @OP, whats the requirement or roll over before you could make a withdrawal?
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BINOBI (OP)
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April 27, 2023, 07:01:03 AM |
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the site seems great. but the interface has the feeling of being in the binance, maybe because of the theme colour. anyway, is binobi working on their gambling license? seems everything is ready on this site. it is good that you will be offering free play also, this will attract new users to try your site. with regard to kyc requirements, based from your registration terms, you may ask valid proof of identity when deem necessary. would be good if you are already licensed before you start asking from your players about kyc.
I do have that first impression too on which it does really look like Binance plus with those font and color scheme which you would really be having that kind of feeling that you've been dealing with Binance site. Well, it isnt really that a bad idea considering on making use of that color scheme which is really common specially for those people who do make use of said platform and now its been used on a gambling site. Overall design is great, having instant withdrawal then its always been good and as for KYC then it is really just the same among with those current existing ones. The thing they should focus now is on to run some signature campaign to increase up some exposure about their existence because if they wouldnt really be serious into this matter then it would be no shock if they wouldnt really be getting some users. + Showing those half breast exposure? Its always a plus and really looks that good in the eyes specially on male players but i do see that it is really just that too much or already that too inappropriate? Well this is really just that my feeling. Checking out some more things on FAQ https://binobi.com/promoSeems like that "What does the wager requirement mean?" link is broken on which i cant able to see on how much wagering requirement they do really need up specially into that deposit bonus. Seems like its need to be fixed or @OP, whats the requirement or roll over before you could make a withdrawal? Hello, the bonus balance cannot be withdrawn. You activate the bonus, the bonus works from $10 to $500,
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April 27, 2023, 09:35:03 AM |
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Precisely if they do development by having instant withdrawals it is more profitable because there can be an advantage over other small casinos. This kind of development will have a very good positive impact on the casinos they manage so that gamblers will be amazed and comfortable when gamblers make withdrawal transactions. The instant withdrawal feature doesn't matter if they are still a small or big casino and the withdrawal is a little or a lot but it's about the convenience and satisfaction of the customer. When small casinos have instant withdrawal feature then advantage and plus points they can have which can make more gamblers to register and play there. After all, this is a pretty good idea and needs to be seriously considered by the team so that it can be implemented immediately.
Do you understand what Helena said ? He had already said that this casino was still new and could be called still small unlike the big casinos which already had heavy traffic inside the big casinos. So this casino is still new and there isn't too much traffic in it so they will be very careful in developing all the systems and features that are in this casino. If instant withdrawals are implemented directly at this casino while this casino is still new, what happens if someone cheats and withdraws the funds? I think it makes sense for the casino to currently use manual withdrawals as they will verify every withdrawal made by the gambler to see all withdrawals are normal without any cheating. So if you argue that this casino must be different from other casinos that apply instant withdrawals to make it different from other casinos, it's not that easy.
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April 27, 2023, 12:27:18 PM |
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I'll tell you about my experience with this casino. I was intrigued by the fact that it was new and Ukrainian. I registered on the advice of my sister, who claimed that the payouts there take no more than 10 minutes and that the RTP is good. I registered, passed verification, deposited money, played a bit, made a withdrawal, and received it after 6 hours. The next morning, I deposited another $200, won $800, requested a withdrawal, but they rejected it, saying that if my sister played there, I couldn't play, and I could try to withdraw again only in a month, after passing additional verification. Why not now? Why in a month? And I noticed that yesterday I lost $50, and I received the payout, but today when I won in The Dog House Megaways, they refuse to pay. The conclusion is that as long as you lose, they will pay you something, but as soon as you win, you won't receive the payout, and they will request verification and say it didn't work out, come back in a month. https://prnt.sc/FnvwdFJ3i04J
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April 27, 2023, 12:39:40 PM |
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I'll tell you about my experience with this casino. I was intrigued by the fact that it was new and Ukrainian. I registered on the advice of my sister, who claimed that the payouts there take no more than 10 minutes and that the RTP is good. I registered, passed verification, deposited money, played a bit, made a withdrawal, and received it after 6 hours. The next morning, I deposited another $200, won $800, requested a withdrawal, but they rejected it, saying that if my sister played there, I couldn't play, and I could try to withdraw again only in a month, after passing additional verification. Why not now? Why in a month? And I noticed that yesterday I lost $50, and I received the payout, but today when I won in The Dog House Megaways, they refuse to pay. The conclusion is that as long as you lose, they will pay you something, but as soon as you win, you won't receive the payout, and they will request verification and say it didn't work out, come back in a month. https://prnt.sc/FnvwdFJ3i04JMaybe because of the Multi-account? I read their terms that we can only register 1 account it includes a relative it is still good that your account is still not closed because if you play with other casinos maybe your account will be closed with or without your deposit back below is their terms 5.4. You are only allowed to register one Account with the Service. Accounts are subject to immediate closure if it is found that you have multiple Accounts registered with us. This includes the use of representatives, relatives, associates, affiliates, related parties, connected persons, and/or third parties operating on your behalf.
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irnmoroz
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April 27, 2023, 12:45:58 PM |
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The thing is, my sister lives in Ukraine, and I live in Poland. And what does my sister have to do with it? She just recommended it because she saw the advertisement. Or does this rule apply to family members and relatives as well? )
And why then, yesterday when I lost, they paid out the remaining balance to me. But today, when I won, suddenly the rule kicked in? Don't you think it's suspicious?
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BINOBI (OP)
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April 27, 2023, 12:57:51 PM |
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I'll tell you about my experience with this casino. I was intrigued by the fact that it was new and Ukrainian. I registered on the advice of my sister, who claimed that the payouts there take no more than 10 minutes and that the RTP is good. I registered, passed verification, deposited money, played a bit, made a withdrawal, and received it after 6 hours. The next morning, I deposited another $200, won $800, requested a withdrawal, but they rejected it, saying that if my sister played there, I couldn't play, and I could try to withdraw again only in a month, after passing additional verification. Why not now? Why in a month? And I noticed that yesterday I lost $50, and I received the payout, but today when I won in The Dog House Megaways, they refuse to pay. The conclusion is that as long as you lose, they will pay you something, but as soon as you win, you won't receive the payout, and they will request verification and say it didn't work out, come back in a month. https://prnt.sc/FnvwdFJ3i04JWe were expecting such a message, our security service passed the information on. Here we go: 1. This user has 2 accounts on the forum: fematron / irnmoroz (created only). 2. This person was doing damage to the casino, using third-party software. 3. When the person was asked if you have accounts at the moment, the message was no, no! When we began to provide evidence, it turns out the sister appeared. 4. Man believes that she is in the Ukraine and her sister in Poland, but forgot to turn on VPN and logged into technical support through the Poland. 5. Man was blocked: by the rules of the casino: 1.1 4.1.6. In any way which, in our reasonable opinion, could be considered as an attempt to: (i) cheat the Service or another Customer using the Service; or (ii) collude with any other Customer using the Service in order to obtain a dishonest advantage; 1.2 4.1.9. Creating multiple accounts for the purpose of collusion, fraud, Service abuse, and/or any kind of Service manipulation is prohibited and may result in account closure. 6. Recharging was made from the same purse! You were given a chance to appeal in a month if you are aware of your actions. Attach a screenshot. We appreciate and love our players when they are honest! Mail: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fe.radikal.host%2F2023%2F04%2F27%2Fmy-account-was-blocked---supportbinobi.com---POCTA-BINOBI-2023-04-27-14-35-48.md.png&t=665&c=nxePVb0RBnDP1A) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fe.radikal.host%2F2023%2F04%2F27%2Fmy-account-was-blocked---supportbinobi.com---POCTA-BINOBI-2023-04-27-14-47-02.md.png&t=665&c=szgT_cN_onQ1cA) Withdrawal of funds 2 different accounts: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fe.radikal.host%2F2023%2F04%2F27%2FBinobi-Admin-Panel-2023-04-27-12-56-16.md.png&t=665&c=IiJEehQTSJigKw) Registration and last visit: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fe.radikal.host%2F2023%2F04%2F27%2FBinobi-Admin-Panel-2023-04-27-14-50-30.md.png&t=665&c=6MLFVcJoDRcr0A) Her sister was blocked yesterday and after 20-30 minutes after the blocking an account was created. 1-2 days before the blocking my sister was using banned software. The system confirms that the accounts use VPN, all the evidence above.
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irnmoroz
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April 27, 2023, 01:28:27 PM |
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1.And four more accounts, how do you determine that? I just registered here for the first time. But never mind. 2. I understand that for you, damage is when a person wins. 3. I don't have any other accounts besides this one. When you asked about my sister, I answered you. There are probably a few more people who play from Ukraine, should I tell you about them? 4. I don't use VPN at all. But it's up to you. 5. Your rules, your casino, everything is clear here. 6. You seem a bit strange. Those wallets are not mine, it's even visible in the screenshot above that I have a MEX wallet. According to your rules, are those who replenish the casino from the exchange also under suspicion of multi-accounting? I don't need to wait a month, you're not a bank, and the amount is not large, you just stole the winnings because you came here to rip off people and leave.
And I will point out again! When I lost a bit and withdrew some money, they paid me, as seen in the screenshot, and the problems started only after I won money! I understand that anyone who wins will have problems, and you will take a month to think about them.
Our communication is over, be careful and don't fall for scam casinos.
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April 27, 2023, 01:31:45 PM |
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I'll tell you about my experience with this casino. I was intrigued by the fact that it was new and Ukrainian. I registered on the advice of my sister, who claimed that the payouts there take no more than 10 minutes and that the RTP is good. I registered, passed verification, deposited money, played a bit, made a withdrawal, and received it after 6 hours. The next morning, I deposited another $200, won $800, requested a withdrawal, but they rejected it, saying that if my sister played there, I couldn't play, and I could try to withdraw again only in a month, after passing additional verification. Why not now? Why in a month? And I noticed that yesterday I lost $50, and I received the payout, but today when I won in The Dog House Megaways, they refuse to pay. The conclusion is that as long as you lose, they will pay you something, but as soon as you win, you won't receive the payout, and they will request verification and say it didn't work out, come back in a month. https://prnt.sc/FnvwdFJ3i04JYou can try to post your case into scam accusation board, Follow the format that you can find there in posting a scam accusation and don't forget to add additional proof like screenshots, tx links, or even your conversations with the casino. If you are telling the truth about your situation, I believe that you are on right. I haven't read the TOS of this casino but I believe that majority of the casino accept even there are 2 players on the same IP address which I guess why the casino refused your withdrawal. I think that you are flagged with multi accounting because of your and your sister account in that casino but all of this accusation can easily removed by the KYC this is why I don't know why did the casino refuse to pay you.
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BINOBI (OP)
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April 27, 2023, 01:40:39 PM |
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I'll tell you about my experience with this casino. I was intrigued by the fact that it was new and Ukrainian. I registered on the advice of my sister, who claimed that the payouts there take no more than 10 minutes and that the RTP is good. I registered, passed verification, deposited money, played a bit, made a withdrawal, and received it after 6 hours. The next morning, I deposited another $200, won $800, requested a withdrawal, but they rejected it, saying that if my sister played there, I couldn't play, and I could try to withdraw again only in a month, after passing additional verification. Why not now? Why in a month? And I noticed that yesterday I lost $50, and I received the payout, but today when I won in The Dog House Megaways, they refuse to pay. The conclusion is that as long as you lose, they will pay you something, but as soon as you win, you won't receive the payout, and they will request verification and say it didn't work out, come back in a month. https://prnt.sc/FnvwdFJ3i04JYou can try to post your case into scam accusation board, Follow the format that you can find there in posting a scam accusation and don't forget to add additional proof like screenshots, tx links, or even your conversations with the casino. If you are telling the truth about your situation, I believe that you are on right. I haven't read the TOS of this casino but I believe that majority of the casino accept even there are 2 players on the same IP address which I guess why the casino refused your withdrawal. I think that you are flagged with multi accounting because of your and your sister account in that casino but all of this accusation can easily removed by the KYC this is why I don't know why did the casino refuse to pay you. KYC was passed only person matches both 1st and 2nd account. KYC will be cancelled and you will need to pass the kyc again. The person has a lot of lies, and have been fed to deceive the product. Consistently the blocking came in for a multi-account. Man writes that he does not use VPN, but added a screenshot Registration / and the last one is from two different ip Addresses! (More likely forgot to turn off / or turn on =) ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fe.radikal.host%2F2023%2F04%2F27%2FBinobi-Admin-Panel-2023-04-27-14-50-3089d6bbb30ffb1a2d.md.png&t=665&c=XOf3K3wsFtoA3w)
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irnmoroz
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April 27, 2023, 01:54:54 PM |
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What is my lie? That my sister and I have the same last name? What accounts am I creating? What are you making up? Just tell the truth already - you pay $50, and $800 is too much for you. Stop leading everyone on and making excuses. You paid me and my sister, but after I won, you started with all these stories about VPNs and whatnot. You talk about VPNs like they are a crime. You say I didn't pass verification, but I did, and my sister did too, and she got paid, and I got paid once.
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BINOBI (OP)
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April 27, 2023, 02:00:26 PM |
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What is my lie? That my sister and I have the same last name? What accounts am I creating? What are you making up? Just tell the truth already - you pay $50, and $800 is too much for you. Stop leading everyone on and making excuses. You paid me and my sister, but after I won, you started with all these stories about VPNs and whatnot. You talk about VPNs like they are a crime. You say I didn't pass verification, but I did, and my sister did too, and she got paid, and I got paid once.
KYC you will be cancelled as you have the same photo with BINOBI, or are you blazes? We have payments in bitcoins and on the air honest players receive within 10-40 min funds. You have a different situation, we have given you many examples. And the rules which have broken. 1.1 5.4 You are only allowed to register one Account with the Service. Accounts are subject to immediate closure if it is found that you have multiple Accounts registered with us. This includes the use of representatives, relatives, associates, affiliates, related parties, connected persons, and/or third parties operating on your behalf. 1.2 4.1.6. In any way which, in our reasonable opinion, could be considered as an attempt to: (i) cheat the Service or another Customer using the Service; or (ii) collude with any other Customer using the Service in order to obtain a dishonest advantage; 1.3 4.1.9. Creating multiple accounts for the purpose of collusion, fraud, Service abuse, and/or any kind of Service manipulation is prohibited and may result in account closure. Even with the rules we laid out above, you can file an appeal in a month.
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April 27, 2023, 02:06:54 PM |
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What is my lie? That my sister and I have the same last name? What accounts am I creating? What are you making up? Just tell the truth already - you pay $50, and $800 is too much for you. Stop leading everyone on and making excuses. You paid me and my sister, but after I won, you started with all these stories about VPNs and whatnot. You talk about VPNs like they are a crime. You say I didn't pass verification, but I did, and my sister did too, and she got paid, and I got paid once.
1.2 4.1.6. In any way which, in our reasonable opinion, could be considered as an attempt to: (i) cheat the Service or another Customer using the Service; or (ii) collude with any other Customer using the Service in order to obtain a dishonest advantage; Yesterday everything was fine, and now after I won, you need a month.
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April 27, 2023, 02:09:17 PM |
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it's all funny. but I understand what he's talking about. and if you wanted to fix it out and understand, you would write to me by mail, I would help you fix what is, and check the rest. you understand what I'm talking about. пoчтa y вac ecть.
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