Politicians behind the development of gambling platform

[Tumanggor]

A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’t

in my country even though gambling is illegal, there are also reports that many officials have gambling businesses but are operated in countries such as Vietnam and Cambodia

After all, gambling has a large market share, so it's no wonder that many politicians have side businesses such as casinos or nightclubs

[aioc]

After all, gambling has a large market share, so it's no wonder that many politicians have side businesses such as casinos or nightclubs

But it should not be open to the public, if I'm a politician I would not think of openly admitting I'm running one because it will ruin my credibility as a public servant, especially for new politicians, and there's always a perception that politicians will use their political power to advance or cover up any misbehavior of their platform, like if there are complaints on their platform, they will bribe investigators and prosecutors because, in the first place, the politicians like senators are the ones who allocate funding on different government agencies.

[piebeyb]

A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’t

in my country even though gambling is illegal, there are also reports that many officials have gambling businesses but are operated in countries such as Vietnam and Cambodia

After all, gambling has a large market share, so it's no wonder that many politicians have side businesses such as casinos or nightclubs

Yes, every country has its own regulations, in my country, of course, it's prohibited, but some Asian countries may be free, so there are several countries where they have income from gambling into the state treasury, so there are no restrictions on politicians or officials involved in gambling, especially casinos during that time. Everything back to the regulations every country is not all the same.

Gambling really does provide a large income for the country through taxes and others, but in my country it is strictly prohibited for officials and politicians who are involved with gambling they will be arrested and punished, that is why nothing is publicly open if there are politicians involved in it in gambling.

[Promocodeudo]

Many politicians are directly or indirectly involved in gambling, they even gamble and own gambling company but in disguise not openly in other not to allow their rivals to use it against them in election campaign, most of them own a gambling company but not with their name, it is important to note that most gambling companies we see today is being own by politicians, as we all know gambling Business make much money and politicians will always love to invest in such company that will enable them to generate more funds for themselves through that means, but this depends on the strict laws guilding a particular country because in most countries it is prohibited at such if found guilty strict sanctions and penalties will be invoked.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

This is just another evidence that we live a good world that's been messed up by wicked and desperate politicians, why should  a politician be allowed to operate a gambling casino, if not for the fact that we live in an insane society?
Anyways, one thing I know for sure is that, there is a prize somewhere waiting for us, for whatever we do in this earth, if this man operate a gambling casino, for the sole purpose of funding his political career, I can just but imagine how many gamblers he must have cheated off their hard earned money, so that he could amass more money for himself and family, stealing from the same people you plan to lead is not just cool at all.

[Ebede]

Politicians are aware that their is more profit in gambling business this has given somany them the courage to own such Business in disguise in other to raise more funds either for personal use or campaign bill offset, this desperate politicians even gamble directly.

[Mahanton]

A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’t

in my country even though gambling is illegal, there are also reports that many officials have gambling businesses but are operated in countries such as Vietnam and Cambodia

After all, gambling has a large market share, so it's no wonder that many politicians have side businesses such as casinos or nightclubs

Yes, every country has its own regulations, in my country, of course, it's prohibited, but some Asian countries may be free, so there are several countries where they have income from gambling into the state treasury, so there are no restrictions on politicians or officials involved in gambling, especially casinos during that time. Everything back to the regulations every country is not all the same.

Gambling really does provide a large income for the country through taxes and others, but in my country it is strictly prohibited for officials and politicians who are involved with gambling they will be arrested and punished, that is why nothing is publicly open if there are politicians involved in it in gambling.

Just like on some countries where they do have that state lottery on which they've been using some part of it on charitable acts or deeds which is something that would really be that commendable.
This is the way on where they could get at least some part which it would be applied into these acts which i do see not to be bad at all. Its true that each country does have their own
rules and regulations when it comes to gambling. If ever they would really be banning out gambling then of course people or gamblers of that certain place would really be going into places which
even if they do know that it is illegal or not licensed or been allowed by the government, but for the sake of addiction and leisure hunting then for sure they would be playing
out of these places. The worst? which in corrupted countries where government officials are the ones who do really ran off these places which it is really
that indeed happening not only just in movies. 

[btc_angela]

A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’t

I'm not surprised though, don't get me wrong, my Philippine politics is full of corrupt policeman, congressman, mayor and governors. And e-sabong if I'm not wrong is still very strong in the country, despite the government trying to banned it.

And there are a lot of killings as well, with police involvement and even the Senator had to have a hearing about what is going on behind and who might be the politicians protecting e-sabong. So with the admittance of Teves, which by the way is suspected to be the mastermind of eliminating the governor of his province for whatever reasons, I think there could be more in the government who is the protector not just of e-sabong, but illegal gamblings in the country.

This has happened everywhere where there is the involvement of the police and other government officials who are behind the gambling business and provide protection to business owners. And some even act as owners and pay a certain amount of money to officials or government persons so that their businesses can continue to run safely. And even though a law will be passed to control that, I don't think that will stop them from being re-elected as people who work in government because they can easily turn the situation in their favor. This is very difficult to eradicate because the number of corrupt officials is not known with certainty, making it difficult for honest officers to work.

Yes, but what I'm saying is that the Philippines at least have been known to say that it has been the practice of some politicians to be the gambling protector. Even the bust on the biggest drugs right now is very controversial, Congressman grilling ever top cop that is involved on it and seems to be that there is a cover-up as well. Not saying that the countries is very bad, but if those who have been voted by the people like Teves who are accused as the mastermind of the murder of his political enemies and now out of the country because he doesn't want to be prosecuted, then something is wrong with the justice system there.

[acroman08]

there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.

I really feel bad for all the people that were killed because of greed for money and power.

Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling,

I thought politicians are not allowed to own, play, or stay in a casino. I mean I remember reading this from an article in the past, I'm just not sure which news site released it.

in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

any news about this? anyway, politicians that have been proven to own illegal operating lotteries should be arrested.

[Oilacris]

A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

Congressman confirms past stint with e-sabong when it was not yet banned by gov’t

I'm not surprised though, don't get me wrong, my Philippine politics is full of corrupt policeman, congressman, mayor and governors. And e-sabong if I'm not wrong is still very strong in the country, despite the government trying to banned it.

And there are a lot of killings as well, with police involvement and even the Senator had to have a hearing about what is going on behind and who might be the politicians protecting e-sabong. So with the admittance of Teves, which by the way is suspected to be the mastermind of eliminating the governor of his province for whatever reasons, I think there could be more in the government who is the protector not just of e-sabong, but illegal gamblings in the country.

This has happened everywhere where there is the involvement of the police and other government officials who are behind the gambling business and provide protection to business owners. And some even act as owners and pay a certain amount of money to officials or government persons so that their businesses can continue to run safely. And even though a law will be passed to control that, I don't think that will stop them from being re-elected as people who work in government because they can easily turn the situation in their favor. This is very difficult to eradicate because the number of corrupt officials is not known with certainty, making it difficult for honest officers to work.

Yes, but what I'm saying is that the Philippines at least have been known to say that it has been the practice of some politicians to be the gambling protector. Even the bust on the biggest drugs right now is very controversial, Congressman grilling ever top cop that is involved on it and seems to be that there is a cover-up as well. Not saying that the countries is very bad, but if those who have been voted by the people like Teves who are accused as the mastermind of the murder of his political enemies and now out of the country because he doesn't want to be prosecuted, then something is wrong with the justice system there.

You would really expect that there would be those people who would really be committing up some crimes on secret or in silent just because they do know that if ever they would get caught, there's

someone that who could help out incase things gets worst. You do have the money or power and you do have that influence then of course you would really be that confident on doing things on what you can do.It is really just that sad that there are really indeed places or corners of the world where countries justice system is really that fucked up on which only to those who do have the money
and the influence could really be able to have that exemption but of course not all. This would be most likely on third world countries.

Platforms that had been operated by some officials despite of the ban or restriction then it is really just that in fact or reality. They could really make out operation
since they do know that they could continue without any issues raised as long it would be covered up.

[serjent05]

This is just another evidence that we live a good world that's been messed up by wicked and desperate politicians, why should  a politician be allowed to operate a gambling casino, if not for the fact that we live in an insane society?

Politicians have the wealth and power to shut up the justice system.  Although there are several good politicians it looks like these good politician is keeping their mouth shut to avoid any misunderstanding with their colleague.  It is really disappointing to see these corrupt officials and upcoming officials exploit the system.

Anyways, one thing I know for sure is that, there is a prize somewhere waiting for us, for whatever we do in this earth, if this man operate a gambling casino, for the sole purpose of funding his political career, I can just but imagine how many gamblers he must have cheated off their hard earned money, so that he could amass more money for himself and family, stealing from the same people you plan to lead is not just cool at all.

One way or another their corrupt mean will end.  It just needs one courageous leader to oust them and penalized these corrupt officials for their wrong doings.

Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling,

I thought politicians are not allowed to own, play, or stay in a casino. I mean I remember reading this from an article in the past, I'm just not sure which news site released it.

They are not supposed to, they are even ban from entering any casinos or participate in any gambling but well, money and power can twist or make the blind justice system mute.

any news about this? anyway, politicians that have been proven to own illegal operating lotteries should be arrested.

There was a case way back 2013 in the Philippines where politicians were arrested due to illegal gambling[1] but was dropped by the Department of Justice[2]. 


[1] https://news.abs-cbn.com/nation/metro-manila/02/16/13/vice-mayor-isko-arrested-manila
[2] https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/588057/doj-drops-illegal-gambling-charge-vs-isko-moreno-others

[yazher]

Wherever there's a source of money, you will find politicians supporting it whether it's legal or illegal. That's why you always find countries that are democracies often have these kinds of problems because those crooks and thieves and also criminals are allowed to vote, therefore they will vote for the ones that are like them and the result is the country will fall and there will be no improvement. You don't see such problems in a monarchy because they have total control and can shutdown automatically it something like that would happen of course there are exceptions but in reality, this is caused by t he democracy and lack of will and power by the president of the country. 

[Smartvirus]

A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

I don't see anything wrong with people in politics or occupying public offices not having the  investment opportunities as the rest of the citizens. So long as they wouldn't be doing this with public funds and they stick to fair plus in offering gambling services.

For what is worth, this would be one means by which, politicians can abstain from corrupt practices as, there exercises would be accounted for by there investment. Also, there wouldnt be exvluded from payment of taxes and add a little to the treasury and would create jobs for some members of the bublic.

[acroman08]

Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling,

I thought politicians are not allowed to own, play, or stay in a casino. I mean I remember reading this from an article in the past, I'm just not sure which news site released it.

They are not supposed to, they are even ban from entering any casinos or participate in any gambling but well, money and power can twist or make the blind justice system mute.

any news about this? anyway, politicians that have been proven to own illegal operating lotteries should be arrested.

There was a case way back 2013 in the Philippines where politicians were arrested due to illegal gambling[1] but was dropped by the Department of Justice[2]. 
-snip

"the charges were dismissed because of all vague allegations" Wow, that is such bullshit and clear evidence of corruption, how are they supposed to uphold their oath when they became a judge when they pull stuff like this. it's also why I never really trust the government.

anyway, the quote author is wrong on the last part of your post, it should be my name there instead of aioc.

[Yamane_Keto]

In my country, financing elections is subject to strict conditions, and you may lose your right to run and end your political career if the campaign is funded from illegal sources or attempts to buy or influence votes. Democracy does not come by buying votes, or whoever collects more money in his electoral campaign is the one who achieves victory, but rather in the nature of projects, services and ideas that he will present.

Gambling is the easiest way to raise money for those who run it. If it is the main source of these election campaigns, it is better to ban it.

[Fundamentals Of]

The problem with politicians not just in your country but probably all over the world is that they're mostly hypocrites. They are masters in sweet talks and lying in front of the public. Behind them however, they are all after money and power.

I wouldn't be surprised if a politician is found out to be a criminal also. That's very normal. That's not even news anymore. What's surprising is when they are fairly and objectively prosecuted and eventually sent to jail. That seldom happens.

[wxa7115]

A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

I don't see anything wrong with people in politics or occupying public offices not having the  investment opportunities as the rest of the citizens. So long as they wouldn't be doing this with public funds and they stick to fair plus in offering gambling services.

For what is worth, this would be one means by which, politicians can abstain from corrupt practices as, there exercises would be accounted for by there investment. Also, there wouldnt be exvluded from payment of taxes and add a little to the treasury and would create jobs for some members of the bublic.

It would be unfair to try to restrict public servants from business opportunities that are completely legal on the country in which they are living.

However we must recognize that those that are at the very top of the hierarchy could exercise a great advantage over other traders and investors, as they could have access to privileged information and they could trade the markets knowing in advance what is going to happen, an advantage so great that anyone that has it cannot help to make a huge fortune even if they were not trying that hard to become successful.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

A politician in the Philippines claimed to have had a hand in the development of the very controversial e-sabong platform he operated e-sabong so he can make a lot of money so he can use for the campaign, and his family to win local elections because the election in the Philippines is very costly many candidates are buying votes to secure their win, there were reports that he murdered their family's opponent because of e-sabong.
Do you think that government should have a rule or a law for election candidates not to have a franchise in any form of gambling, in fact, there are a lot of politicians who are operators of illegal small-town lotteries this is to accumulate funds they can use for election campaigns.

In general, if it's a legitimate business I wouldn't see a problem with it, but if you're talking about murder and illegal lotteries, well, I don't. The problem is not so much using a legitimate business to finance your campaign, but rather the opposite, that what they are doing to finance their campaigns is illegal, and it happens to be related to gambling as it could be related to another sector.

I don't know if you realise your contradiction. If they are breaking the law, a new law is not going to do any good, because they are going to break it anyway.

After all, gambling has a large market share, so it's no wonder that many politicians have side businesses such as casinos or nightclubs

But it should not be open to the public, if I'm a politician I would not think of openly admitting I'm running one because it will ruin my credibility as a public servant, especially for new politicians, and there's always a perception that politicians will use their political power to advance or cover up any misbehavior of their platform, like if there are complaints on their platform, they will bribe investigators and prosecutors because, in the first place, the politicians like senators are the ones who allocate funding on different government agencies.

Here we are again with the same thing. It is not so much the gambling that is the problem as the illegal behaviour of politicians. This does not happen in Europe (there is gambling and there are politicians who engage in behaviour that is questionable to say the least, but nowhere near what you are describing).
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[Pierre 2]

Wherever there's a source of money, you will find politicians supporting it whether it's legal or illegal. That's why you always find countries that are democracies often have these kinds of problems because those crooks and thieves and also criminals are allowed to vote, therefore they will vote for the ones that are like them and the result is the country will fall and there will be no improvement. You don't see such problems in a monarchy because they have total control and can shutdown automatically it something like that would happen of course there are exceptions but in reality, this is caused by t he democracy and lack of will and power by the president of the country. 

I think I agree with this argument. One of side effects of democracy. Power is distributed so crooks are very interested in it. I am sure there is huge money rings between businessmen, politicians and many other high profile figure. When gambling is legal in such countries it's obvious there will be so called political figure interested in. Some claim that they support or incentivize it but mainly everyone knows shady things going on. In monarchy leader could be just uninterested because family is already rich.

[wxa7115]

Wherever there's a source of money, you will find politicians supporting it whether it's legal or illegal. That's why you always find countries that are democracies often have these kinds of problems because those crooks and thieves and also criminals are allowed to vote, therefore they will vote for the ones that are like them and the result is the country will fall and there will be no improvement. You don't see such problems in a monarchy because they have total control and can shutdown automatically it something like that would happen of course there are exceptions but in reality, this is caused by t he democracy and lack of will and power by the president of the country. 

I think I agree with this argument. One of side effects of democracy. Power is distributed so crooks are very interested in it. I am sure there is huge money rings between businessmen, politicians and many other high profile figure. When gambling is legal in such countries it's obvious there will be so called political figure interested in. Some claim that they support or incentivize it but mainly everyone knows shady things going on. In monarchy leader could be just uninterested because family is already rich.

The point you make is logical but our current system is still better, as in the case of a monarchy you depend exclusively on the capabilities of one person, if that person is competent then the country will do well and thrive, and we have many examples of this through history.

However if the leader is incompetent then the country could fall into ruin and even disappear, so a republic seems like a better choice on average, even if there are a few instances in which a monarchy may seem like a better option.