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September 18, 2023, 09:43:07 AM
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Food crisis here in my country seems getting worst as some influencial business owners tend to hoard thousands of tons of rice and vegetables to manipulate prices. Some of these business owners were investigated and hopefully soon will be apprehended.

The declining interest of young people into agriculture is one of the most common reason why there is sometimes shortage in food in a particular  country. Smuggled goods from foreign countries could also pose threat to the local food sector.
Apart from the problem of extreme weather, it seems that problems related to large-scale hoarding of food stocks by irresponsible people are a problem that is quite common nowadays. So price manipulation in the market seems to have become quite commonplace nowadays. This can indeed worsen the economy of people who have to buy food at higher prices, namely exceeding the normal price limit.

Importing goods from outside is sometimes necessary. But if it is done illegally then of course this is not a good thing and could affect local business. Because now even something like that has happened here. Where products from abroad flood the market. And displaced local producers. Because products from abroad are sometimes much cheaper than local products. This is what makes local businesses lose the competition.
Just recently news about big personalities hoaring foods for so long that they expired made to the headlines in our country. This news is very concerning as the price hike for foods is in an all time high while at the same time lack of food resources is being faced in much our the country's big areas. Heck, just early today my partner and I had to actually go and make a meal plan for our everyday consumption to ensure that we are staying within the budget we allocated for food.

As for importing products, this is also happening in my country but the disturbing thing is that local agricultural products are being exported in mass amounts despite the already lacking production it have towards the local market.

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September 18, 2023, 09:57:07 AM
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Food crisis here in my country seems getting worst as some influencial business owners tend to hoard thousands of tons of rice and vegetables to manipulate prices. Some of these business owners were investigated and hopefully soon will be apprehended.

The declining interest of young people into agriculture is one of the most common reason why there is sometimes shortage in food in a particular  country. Smuggled goods from foreign countries could also pose threat to the local food sector.
Apart from the problem of extreme weather, it seems that problems related to large-scale hoarding of food stocks by irresponsible people are a problem that is quite common nowadays. So price manipulation in the market seems to have become quite commonplace nowadays. This can indeed worsen the economy of people who have to buy food at higher prices, namely exceeding the normal price limit.

Importing goods from outside is sometimes necessary. But if it is done illegally then of course this is not a good thing and could affect local business. Because now even something like that has happened here. Where products from abroad flood the market. And displaced local producers. Because products from abroad are sometimes much cheaper than local products. This is what makes local businesses lose the competition.
Just recently news about big personalities hoaring foods for so long that they expired made to the headlines in our country. This news is very concerning as the price hike for foods is in an all time high while at the same time lack of food resources is being faced in much our the country's big areas. Heck, just early today my partner and I had to actually go and make a meal plan for our everyday consumption to ensure that we are staying within the budget we allocated for food.

As for importing products, this is also happening in my country but the disturbing thing is that local agricultural products are being exported in mass amounts despite the already lacking production it have towards the local market.
Yes, this is indeed very worrying. Sometimes market prices do increase and reach above normal prices. And this is sometimes done by people who do not think about the fate of the small people. They don't care at all about the suffering experienced by the little people. Because perhaps for those in the upper class, the price increase is not significant. But for lower middle class people, the increase in food prices in the market clearly has a big impact. Especially for people whose income is not too high. Where their salaries don't even increase when inflation comes. So they have to rearrange their finances and shopping lists as economically as possible so that they can still have enough money for their daily lives. So it is not surprising that online loan applications are widely used by people today. Because sometimes their income is not enough to meet their daily needs due to rising food prices.

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September 18, 2023, 10:10:02 AM
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Although you have a point here, we cannot ignore that there are countries wherein the government are the ones that lacks actions and concern for the agricultural sector of the country they are governing. For example, in my country there have been various call to action and protest of farmers and majority of society for our government to listen to the needs of agriculture as it has been obvious that this sector of the country is having a major downfall yet to proper action has still been taken.
What actions is being taken by the government of your country at this time, because in the end they (the farmers) will not be able to be ignored by the government forever? Moreover, if one day the current government still wants to nominate himself as leader in the country, of course he must care about all the complaints of the people along with the complaints of farmers, which has become a very important sector for the government to pay attention to.

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September 18, 2023, 10:26:25 AM
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It's the same with our local farmers, they're borrowing money to have capital for their farm lands. But it's not even guaranteed that they'll earn from all of their hard work. It's because of many factors like our country is always being hit by natural disasters especially with typhoons, not just that but super typhoons and all of their hard work turns into vain. Aside from that, the manipulation in the market when they harvest is at worst. It's always the farmers harvest' that are being taken for granted because at most times, they're being low balled while the middlemen and businessmen that puts less effort on this business are even making more than what the farmers deserve.
Every farmer is in trouble. The middleman eats everything and governments need to take some action for the direct buying from the people, so that benefits will directly reach the farmers who are one to profit. These days environmental changes have brought the rain vary from the calculation. This will affect the planned cultivation, and in my country the government have made some fast check as some middleman have kept hold of good volume of wheat to manipulate the price. Through proper investigation this had been caught and the price of wheat is well balanced than allowing it to rise deeper. So, rather than the farmers the middleman eats and the crisis keeps going.
That's true, with some policies that will be in favor of the farmers, the government is the only one that can do that. But it seems that there's some sabotage or partnerships that are being done on this part. I really feel the hardship of the farmers that they've been targeted by these middlemen and in the case of our country, the rice has been increasing, and even if there's a temporary solution about putting a price ceiling and cap on it. It is going to result to put the farmers in a bad place because they'll be in between and they will be stuck with that problem. Because the taxes will likely be lessened if not waived for the imported rice while the farmers hard work will be taken for granted. Only the businessmen and middlemen will enjoy this while the consumers and the farmers will keep on experiencing this problem. It should be pro farmers as they're the ones who makes our food and secures it.

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September 18, 2023, 03:32:05 PM
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Here in our country, 3 months from now is Christmas. For sure, when the month of December enters, the prices will increase even more. Instead of getting excited about the citizens of our country, we are getting more and more headaches about how we are going to budget here. Even now, our pocket is hurting so much; how can it be in the month of December?

Then there is news from us that the manufacturers of food in cans and non-food are also planning to raise prices, so almost everything that people need is already expensive. The fuel was added even more because the effect of what is happening in Russia is also different; that's why.


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Climate change is currently having an adverse effect on agriculture. Farmers' crops are destroyed every year due to excessive rains, droughts or untimely floods, which is the main reason for global food crisis. Different countries are working on climate change. Due to the fact that the world is dependent on technology, many people are now changing their agricultural profession and taking some other profession. Also, due to the lack of adequate facilities for farmers, many people are leaving their agricultural profession and joining some other profession. 
In order to avoid food crisis, the government of every country should ensure maximum facilities to the farmers as well as limit the price of various essential items used in agriculture such as fertilizers or seeds so that the farmers can easily cultivate, if the farmers can easily cultivate and if they are encouraged to cultivate. Then hopefully the global food crisis will disappear.

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September 18, 2023, 04:10:44 PM
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Here in our country, 3 months from now is Christmas. For sure, when the month of December enters, the prices will increase even more. Instead of getting excited about the citizens of our country, we are getting more and more headaches about how we are going to budget here. Even now, our pocket is hurting so much; how can it be in the month of December?

Then there is news from us that the manufacturers of food in cans and non-food are also planning to raise prices, so almost everything that people need is already expensive. The fuel was added even more because the effect of what is happening in Russia is also different; that's why.
Almost every year the prices of food and other raw materials always increase, especially during the holidays. And this doesn't only happen at Christmas, but at Eid al-Fitr there are also often very significant price increases.
And in the problem of price increases, many factors are the cause, including hoarding of goods. Approaching major holidays, hoarding of goods occurs very often so that there are very few on the market, while demand for these goods increases, which in turn can cause a significant increase in prices.

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September 18, 2023, 05:12:36 PM
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Here in our country, 3 months from now is Christmas. For sure, when the month of December enters, the prices will increase even more. Instead of getting excited about the citizens of our country, we are getting more and more headaches about how we are going to budget here. Even now, our pocket is hurting so much; how can it be in the month of December?
This is true mate. When holidays come, the demand for goods will increase and even we've seen the slow down of the price increase these days. There will be a potential surge that's going to happen by that time. Plus, I've heard it from a forecast before that by December 2023 and onwards, the price will going to keep up with the inflation and we can't skip that. We need to tighten our belts and pockets by that time but at the same time, we can't let it pass during this celebration. Solution on this one is to celebrate it frugally, no need to be extravagant.

Then there is news from us that the manufacturers of food in cans and non-food are also planning to raise prices, so almost everything that people need is already expensive.
AFAIK, the government is asking them not to implement that. But even if they'll oblige with the government's request for delay, that's just a delay and not a complete stoppage for an increase in the price of canned goods and other goods. I felt even the slight increase already even they're just a few centavo because I am the one that does the groceries. I guess it's not yet the price increase that they're asking to do.

The fuel was added even more because the effect of what is happening in Russia is also different; that's why.
There's another reason aside the war. The oil deregulation law made it worst.

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Here in our country, 3 months from now is Christmas. For sure, when the month of December enters, the prices will increase even more. Instead of getting excited about the citizens of our country, we are getting more and more headaches about how we are going to budget here. Even now, our pocket is hurting so much; how can it be in the month of December?

Then there is news from us that the manufacturers of food in cans and non-food are also planning to raise prices, so almost everything that people need is already expensive. The fuel was added even more because the effect of what is happening in Russia is also different; that's why.
Almost every year the prices of food and other raw materials always increase, especially during the holidays. And this doesn't only happen at Christmas, but at Eid al-Fitr there are also often very significant price increases.
And in the problem of price increases, many factors are the cause, including hoarding of goods. Approaching major holidays, hoarding of goods occurs very often so that there are very few on the market, while demand for these goods increases, which in turn can cause a significant increase in prices.
The involvement of the corporate network into farming have increased alot. This will soon help with the large scale production and for now the corporate are highly profited whereas the farmers remains same as they're years back. The governments have got the responsibility and depending on the weather change and other natural calamities affecting the production governments need to provide subsidy and other means of support to make their living better. Food price increase can be felt everywhere, but the rise in value doesn't gets distributed to the farmers whereas the middleman benefits it.
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Here in our country, 3 months from now is Christmas. For sure, when the month of December enters, the prices will increase even more. Instead of getting excited about the citizens of our country, we are getting more and more headaches about how we are going to budget here. Even now, our pocket is hurting so much; how can it be in the month of December?

Then there is news from us that the manufacturers of food in cans and non-food are also planning to raise prices, so almost everything that people need is already expensive. The fuel was added even more because the effect of what is happening in Russia is also different; that's why.
Almost every year the prices of food and other raw materials always increase, especially during the holidays. And this doesn't only happen at Christmas, but at Eid al-Fitr there are also often very significant price increases.
And in the problem of price increases, many factors are the cause, including hoarding of goods. Approaching major holidays, hoarding of goods occurs very often so that there are very few on the market, while demand for these goods increases, which in turn can cause a significant increase in prices.

Eid is an event that is eagerly awaited by many traders and producers because there will be a lot of demand for goods needed to meet needs, price increases can indeed occur due to hoarding of goods, which causes the supply of goods to decrease, thereby pushing prices up. . However, what is more common in price increases is that there is a lot of demand while the market cannot meet the needs, demand continues to increase and this is usually used to increase prices.

Some cases that can also push up prices are increases in production and distribution costs, this has a big influence on price rises and falls.
Today in my country it is still considered normal and affordable for food price developments. In my opinion, inflation of 1-3% is still considered normal in terms of calculations.

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Climate change is currently having an adverse effect on agriculture. Farmers' crops are destroyed every year due to excessive rains, droughts or untimely floods, which is the main reason for global food crisis. Different countries are working on climate change. Due to the fact that the world is dependent on technology, many people are now changing their agricultural profession and taking some other profession. Also, due to the lack of adequate facilities for farmers, many people are leaving their agricultural profession and joining some other profession. 
In order to avoid food crisis, the government of every country should ensure maximum facilities to the farmers as well as limit the price of various essential items used in agriculture such as fertilizers or seeds so that the farmers can easily cultivate, if the farmers can easily cultivate and if they are encouraged to cultivate. Then hopefully the global food crisis will disappear.
People downplay just how much of this is due to climate change. They forget that the crops we cultivate for food, as well as other biological processes we needed to survive directly depend on the weather and the climate. If this delicate balance is destroyed millions are sure to die. Smear campaigns, downplaying from politicians when they should've been the ones who are to help spread the word and awareness about what climate change really is, and a whole lot more factors contributed to the general public not giving a singular fuck about the state of the world we're living in now. I hope somehow things change but that's wishful thinking and at this point if you're not filthy rich or exclusively famous no one's really going to hear you out. I mean just look at how they are dogging Greta Thunberg when all she does is just put the state of the climate to the forefront and put the people to blame for this into the spotlight.

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September 18, 2023, 06:08:54 PM
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Climate change is currently having an adverse effect on agriculture. Farmers' crops are destroyed every year due to excessive rains, droughts or untimely floods, which is the main reason for global food crisis. Different countries are working on climate change. Due to the fact that the world is dependent on technology, many people are now changing their agricultural profession and taking some other profession. Also, due to the lack of adequate facilities for farmers, many people are leaving their agricultural profession and joining some other profession. 
In order to avoid food crisis, the government of every country should ensure maximum facilities to the farmers as well as limit the price of various essential items used in agriculture such as fertilizers or seeds so that the farmers can easily cultivate, if the farmers can easily cultivate and if they are encouraged to cultivate. Then hopefully the global food crisis will disappear.
People downplay just how much of this is due to climate change. They forget that the crops we cultivate for food, as well as other biological processes we needed to survive directly depend on the weather and the climate. If this delicate balance is destroyed millions are sure to die. Smear campaigns, downplaying from politicians when they should've been the ones who are to help spread the word and awareness about what climate change really is, and a whole lot more factors contributed to the general public not giving a singular fuck about the state of the world we're living in now. I hope somehow things change but that's wishful thinking and at this point if you're not filthy rich or exclusively famous no one's really going to hear you out. I mean just look at how they are dogging Greta Thunberg when all she does is just put the state of the climate to the forefront and put the people to blame for this into the spotlight.

Greta is just a kid. She is even regretting now that countries are de-industrialized. It is really worth doing that green revolution when even the EV's battery is charged by the diesel engine. All this shit is a lie to contain the poor countries to remain poor and they are having success, farmers, and discouraged as their lands were bought.

Wheat and rice are in scarcity blaming it on Russia. While Russia gives away the crops to African countries. You gotta question how that guy is the bad guy.
Right now, if you have a small garden lot just plant something like potatoes. You'll never know when calamities hit your city.


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Wheat and rice are in scarcity blaming it on Russia. While Russia gives away the crops to African countries. You gotta question how that guy is the bad guy.
When we don't like something, a person or a country, then we won't see at all the good things done by a person or a particular country and the same goes for what happened to Russia, we will only see the negative side of what was done by Russia against Ukraine which caused a food crisis.

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Right now, if you have a small garden lot just plant something like potatoes. You'll never know when calamities hit your city.
I've done that. And in my personal opinion, if we have land that is not large enough, then the "hindponic" planting and cultivation method is the best solution to overcome this. With the hydronic planting method we can utilize the existing land area as effectively as possible, because not only can we plant various types of plants in the same land, but with the hydropronic planting method we can also combine it with freshwater fish cultivation.

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Food crisis here in my country seems getting worst as some influencial business owners tend to hoard thousands of tons of rice and vegetables to manipulate prices. Some of these business owners were investigated and hopefully soon will be apprehended.

The declining interest of young people into agriculture is one of the most common reason why there is sometimes shortage in food in a particular  country. Smuggled goods from foreign countries could also pose threat to the local food sector.
Apart from the problem of extreme weather, it seems that problems related to large-scale hoarding of food stocks by irresponsible people are a problem that is quite common nowadays. So price manipulation in the market seems to have become quite commonplace nowadays. This can indeed worsen the economy of people who have to buy food at higher prices, namely exceeding the normal price limit.

Importing goods from outside is sometimes necessary. But if it is done illegally then of course this is not a good thing and could affect local business. Because now even something like that has happened here. Where products from abroad flood the market. And displaced local producers. Because products from abroad are sometimes much cheaper than local products. This is what makes local businesses lose the competition.
Just recently news about big personalities hoaring foods for so long that they expired made to the headlines in our country. This news is very concerning as the price hike for foods is in an all time high while at the same time lack of food resources is being faced in much our the country's big areas. Heck, just early today my partner and I had to actually go and make a meal plan for our everyday consumption to ensure that we are staying within the budget we allocated for food.

As for importing products, this is also happening in my country but the disturbing thing is that local agricultural products are being exported in mass amounts despite the already lacking production it have towards the local market.
Yes, this is indeed very worrying. Sometimes market prices do increase and reach above normal prices. And this is sometimes done by people who do not think about the fate of the small people. They don't care at all about the suffering experienced by the little people. Because perhaps for those in the upper class, the price increase is not significant. But for lower middle class people, the increase in food prices in the market clearly has a big impact. Especially for people whose income is not too high. Where their salaries don't even increase when inflation comes. So they have to rearrange their finances and shopping lists as economically as possible so that they can still have enough money for their daily lives. So it is not surprising that online loan applications are widely used by people today. Because sometimes their income is not enough to meet their daily needs due to rising food prices.
Not really that totally shocked when it comes to price increase which it becomes a norm on year to year basis but on the time that the spike is really that something convincing or really that odd then it would really

be normally be raising up those questions on what the heck happened on this one or simply having no control or you would really be questioning about governments action or solutions in regarding on this one.
Its really a common reaction or thing that citizens would really be throwing about on what's the solution for this one because if people would really be able to experience those spikes and leaving out into their
casual or normal salaries from their work then it would really be giving out that huge effect into their living or status because we know that salary or wages doesnt really come up so easily.

This is why it would really be wise that you should not make yourself that totally relying into government actions but rather be wise on finding other source of income instead because
you cant really make yourself that relying about their solutions but rather mind on your own.

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The food crisis has always been a hot topic of discussion. Because basically this also concerns how we survive and how to avoid crises that occur in the food sector. Of course there are many reasons behind why there is a food crisis, whether it's due to drastic climate change, crop failure, floods and natural disasters, war, hoarding by irresponsible parties, declining interest of young people in agriculture, and also increasingly narrow land. agriculture has turned into factories. or many other reasons.

But I am currently curious about what is happening in each country regarding the current food crisis. Has it gotten better, gotten worse or hasn't there been any change?

In the country where I work, the food crisis has really been resolved. everything is back to normal.Even though the food crisis is over but although food prices are still high and have not come back down. but the consumer's ability can still offset the increase that has occurred so that it can be said that in this country the food sector is under control and sufficient. and how about in your country?
I don't know about other places but in my country the price of food items have not only doubled but most food items have gotten to an outrageous amount and with the rate at which my country's currency is loosing value I doubt if we have a hope of any reduction in their prices. But a way of curbing the pangs of cost on food items, everyone at least needs to have a home grown garden, I know it might not be able to supply all you needs but if you can make preparation for a larger scale that can at least cater for your family, that will go a long way in helping with the amount that'll be spent on food.

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September 27, 2023, 10:32:00 PM
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I don't know about other places but in my country the price of food items have not only doubled but most food items have gotten to an outrageous amount and with the rate at which my country's currency is loosing value I doubt if we have a hope of any reduction in their prices.
Most countries are dealing with this problem, the rise for the cost of foods have been so quick and that also devalues the currencies that we've got as it results to inflation. As for having hope for the price reduction, what we see is the continuous rise but if there's a rollback to its prices, that seems to be not likeable and unable to happen.

But a way of curbing the pangs of cost on food items, everyone at least needs to have a home grown garden, I know it might not be able to supply all you needs but if you can make preparation for a larger scale that can at least cater for your family, that will go a long way in helping with the amount that'll be spent on food.
Lucky are those with garden and fruit bearing plants and vegetables that they can cook when they're on the time of harvesting. But not everyone has that good land mass where they can start their own gardening. But to those that have it, sure it's one hobbies that's very likeable and helpful in these times.

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Just a notice, on a time frame of 20-25 years, the price of chips made x10. For todays price of one middle size bag of chips, in my childhood I could have bought 5 and 2*2L of Coca-Cola. Compared to pre covid19 prices, the price on same bag of chips made x2. I cant say that all the food prices made doubled or even more, but food cost definitely more than few years ago. Cant say that availability of food changed significantly, but change is noticed in variability. But that is due to sanctions, not due to crisis.

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September 29, 2023, 12:04:55 PM
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Just a notice, on a time frame of 20-25 years, the price of chips made x10. For todays price of one middle size bag of chips, in my childhood I could have bought 5 and 2*2L of Coca-Cola. Compared to pre covid19 prices, the price on same bag of chips made x2. I cant say that all the food prices made doubled or even more, but food cost definitely more than few years ago. Cant say that availability of food changed significantly, but change is noticed in variability. But that is due to sanctions, not due to crisis.

There is a small nuance in your estimation - you are taking the cost of a product, which although produced in your country, but the company "investor" of production is Western. It is correct to count the cost of products with domestic origin, domestic taxes and so on. Count better your local products produced by local producers - for example, your local vegetables, fruits, meat, etc. This will be a more accurate estimate of the change in value.

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