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May 10, 2023, 08:07:50 PM |
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Some time 4 years ago, I started to save so that I can buy my dream car which was around $15,450. I was determined. I cut a lot of costs and delayed so many gratifications. For example, I stopped going out with the boys. I did a lot more recycling. I quit eating out and opted for cooking my own meal, I didn't buy new clothes, jeweries, electronic devices etc. I was pretty determined to reach my car saving goal. Before I knew what was happening inflation struck and it swept across all industries. Did you know that my dream car that was an equivalent of $15,450 rose up to $23,680. My heart sunk. It took me doing some additional jobs and twice as much time to rise the new money. So, when someone said that inflation posses a great challenge for delayed gratification. That is, delayed gratification isn't as rewarding especially during inflation, recession. I agreed with them. Do you?
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May 10, 2023, 08:24:04 PM |
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If you wanted to make money to buy a new car, why not get a job and just put your salary into bitcoin?! I'm sure that a few successful trades would help you on your way. Just avoid leverage trading and sh#tcoins, and you'll get there in no time
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May 10, 2023, 08:35:41 PM |
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If you wanted to make money to buy a new car, why not get a job and just put your salary into Bitcoin?! I'm sure that a few successful trades would help you on your way. Just avoid leverage trading and sh#tcoins, and you'll get there in no time
I don't think that is the best possible advice to a noble who is not a pro in trading and this kind of advice can lead to losses since the member may attempt to seek that quick route that will end him in more great danger. Buying Bitcoin is a good idea but then he must be willing to wait for a long time even longer than expected if he continues saving the way he explained in this thread., let's make a point clear when having a target savings plan that has a fixed time, Bitcoin won't be the best option as the choice of investment at that point since Bitcoin risk factor is higher in this context.
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May 10, 2023, 08:46:44 PM |
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Some time 4 years ago, I started to save so that I can buy my dream car which was around $15,450. I was determined. I cut a lot of costs and delayed so many gratifications. For example, I stopped going out with the boys. I did a lot more recycling. I quit eating out and opted for cooking my own meal, I didn't buy new clothes, jeweries, electronic devices etc. I was pretty determined to reach my car saving goal. Before I knew what was happening inflation struck and it swept across all industries. Did you know that my dream car that was an equivalent of $15,450 rose up to $23,680. My heart sunk. It took me doing some additional jobs and twice as much time to rise the new money. So, when someone said that inflation posses a great challenge for delayed gratification. That is, delayed gratification isn't as rewarding especially during inflation, recession. I agreed with them. Do you?
Lets just accept the fact that inflation is an inevitable thing for us to avoid out.Yes, we do make out some sacrifices when it comes on trying out to achieve our goal or targets but if those money you had saved up would be in form of fiat then stored in banks then it would be subjected to have that kind of situation unlike if these amounts are really that been put up on an investment which it could potentially be able to gain up profits more. Somehow this would really be actually depending on a certain individual since not all would really be that risks takers and would eventually just sitting around on much less risky space and wont tend to go far with those kind of decisions which is something that would really differ into each person. It is really that a huge challenge for us if ever we are saving in fiat where inflation could really affect that much. If we are really that eager and serious on reaching goals then dont stop just because you've seen that the price had increased.Its true that you would need to work hard more and would be wise on finding other sources of income or would really be touching up that investment thing as long it would benefit you out and would be fasten up the process on achieving your goal. Dont give up!
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May 10, 2023, 09:14:24 PM |
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Inflation is the needed one in the economy,because of the inflation people demand of the product will increased.When ever the demand for the product increased,we can able to produce the product to get some profit from it.If your delayed the product produce,the demand meet the supply and the economic This can increase the demand of the market,the same market with new prdoduct.Like wise when the product is enormous in the market,the money supply will be increased by the central Bank of that countries will increase the money.Then people have money to buy the additional assets as compared to before.Most important one is the money can be used to the all old desire profits.The excess can used as the saving for your future.
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May 10, 2023, 09:22:09 PM |
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Sometimes, every delay can be a success. What if the so called your dream car isn't the car actually meant for you and God is just working in misterious ways to open good doors for you? You shouldn't stress your self too much trying to save up just to use it all on one item.
Buying a car with all your savings? what will you use to power the car? How would you pay for maintenance and other issues that would arise from buying a car. Just look for a good investment to put your savings on for now until you yield profits, then use your profit to buy a car. It mustn't be your dream car if it's too expensive.
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May 10, 2023, 09:37:05 PM |
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If you wanted to make money to buy a new car, why not get a job and just put your salary into bitcoin?! I'm sure that a few successful trades would help you on your way. Just avoid leverage trading and sh#tcoins, and you'll get there in no time
Probably because of the risk with Bitcoin and same scenario, there’s no guarantee for the price pump. Savings is a good idea for that goal but unfortunately, the cost of the car increases for many factors and not just about the inflation. One good here is that, you are able to save the money so when you needed the money you can easily have it. Try to invest as well and look for an investment that will fit your risk appetite, don’t just invest without having any knowledge about it.
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May 10, 2023, 11:29:00 PM |
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Normally inflation is only a few percents per year, so over 4 years it wouldn't be so dramatic. The current inflation is the result of covid and the war. People may say in hindisght that gold or Bitcoin are a better store of value, but gold and Bitcoin also crash from time to time. There is no perfect store of value that is immune from losing its value.
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May 10, 2023, 11:45:43 PM |
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Saving money is a depreciating asset worth so what happened is the value of the money saved declined vs a fixed cost (commodities even plain metal will retain its value in general though erratically, a working asset etc. is superior to plain cash imo). What could work is you decide to buy the 2020 year model of that car and buy it second hand, the devaluation of car value after being used is greater then even cash inflation loss of value so you would get what you want, but if you want new every time without compromise it doesnt especially work for you. Your premise is somewhat correct, inflation ruins order flow in the end because prices are uncertain and eventually all business is impeded by the volatility. A car program I've seen which is also relevant where they try to trade up cars by fixing minor problems on each model and selling it on, eventually they get to trade upto the wanted model. Its quite funny thats possible but I've heard of it being done realistically if not easily.
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This is absolutely true. And that's why saving in fiat could be very bad to you. Had you saved in Bitcoin, you would have already bought your dream car, possibly even two of them and the top of the line.
Anyway, I wonder, has your dream car not cheapen a little considering that there could already be new models on the market?
Had you known that inflation would wreak havoc to the purchasing value of your money, you would have taken a loan years ago and bought your dream car. At least you will be paying now with an amount with lesser value.
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May 11, 2023, 01:59:22 AM |
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Had you known that inflation would wreak havoc to the purchasing value of your money, you would have taken a loan years ago and bought your dream car. At least you will be paying now with an amount with lesser value.
Good advice. This is where loans sets a good example rather than saving fiat (in a bank) for several years to get a car or house that we don't know how much the inflation rate would rise in the next year or two. Another option would be to invest to an asset with low risk involved but could protect your money from inflations. I say gold or real estate, but I'm leaning towards the real estate. I can also say Bitcoin for long term perspective. Saving fiat for me is like giving away free money to the bank because the inflation will kill the purchasing power of your money and the bank used your money to lend it to someone and of course earned an interest with it.
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May 11, 2023, 02:03:22 AM |
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That is, delayed gratification isn't as rewarding especially during inflation, recession. I agreed with them. Do you?
Regardless of inflation, delaying your gratification just to purchase a depreciating asset which is a car is not worth it all because its value decreases the moment you purchased and use it. It can’t compensate for the time you missed out with your friends and the happy life that you can have just to purchase this car. I dream having a car but if took you a long time just to purchase then it means that this kind of luxury doesn't suits you because you can’t afford it without sacrificing most of your precious time just to save. What will happened if the car got damages and need repairs? It will cost a lot and give you a hard time on saving once again just for repairs. Is it worth it to save for a long time just to purchase a depreciating asset??
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Some time 4 years ago, I started to save so that I can buy my dream car which was around $15,450. I was determined. I cut a lot of costs and delayed so many gratifications. For example, I stopped going out with the boys. I did a lot more recycling. I quit eating out and opted for cooking my own meal, I didn't buy new clothes, jeweries, electronic devices etc. I was pretty determined to reach my car saving goal. Before I knew what was happening inflation struck and it swept across all industries. Did you know that my dream car that was an equivalent of $15,450 rose up to $23,680...
The problem with cars is that they have gone up more than the average inflation rate. In your case they could have looked for an interest-bearing account or something similar so that the savings would yield a little, although they will always yield less than inflation. It is usually recommended that if you are saving for something but for 5 years or more, put the money in an investment, for example a fund indexed to the S&P 500 because in approximately 85% of 5-year periods it has been profitable. The downside is that you have about a 15% chance of losing money. If you don't want to bet with those positive probabilities, what happens to you is what has happened to you, that you face the inevitable loss of purchasing power due to inflation, which has been exacerbated precisely in this period. Another idea would be to put your money in Bitcoin, which although it is very volatile, with a high probability of cycle to cycle you will increase your purchasing power quite a lot.
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It’s not only cars, look at real estate. Basically a lot of items are out of reach due to inflation. Cars and real estate is worse due to supply issues.
It’s not only sporty cars like your dream car. You want a minivan to haul your kids around? Well there are very little in stock. Those in stock are like $40K and if you want a used one you will pay the same price as it cost new about 4-5 years ago. These supply issues are causing alot of headaches for families.
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Sad to hear your story with Savings, I hope you make your dream come true and that one day you drive that car.
Inflation is a simple definition of many problems, some of which you may be able to solve with some smart investments, and others you cannot. One of the factors of inflation is the financial mismanagement of your currency, which means that the currency exchange rate is constantly declining, then converting to dollars or Swiss francs will solve the problem, and keeping gold or long-term investment is an ideal solution.
Sometimes inflation is due to the smooth supply, as happened in the year 2020, and then trying to postpone the purchase will lead to a lot of fees being reduced. Taxes and customs exemptions are another reason for inflation.
Try to figure out why the price of the car changed from $15,450 to $23,680 and you might be able to find a way to make things happy on your side.
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If you wanted to make money to buy a new car, why not get a job and just put your salary into bitcoin?! I'm sure that a few successful trades would help you on your way. Just avoid leverage trading and sh#tcoins, and you'll get there in no time
It's a smart idea, but it's important to remember that investing in cryptocurrencies can be risky and volatile. if relying solely on cryptocurrencies for your financial goals may not be the most practical approach. I think saving money and getting an extra job is a more reliable and secure way to reach your financial goals and of course, avoiding "shitcoins" is always a good idea! Did you know that my dream car that was an equivalent of $15,450 rose up to $23,680. My heart sunk. It took me doing some additional jobs and twice as much time to rise the new money. So, when someone said that inflation posses a great challenge for delayed gratification. That is, delayed gratification isn't as rewarding especially during inflation, recession. I agreed with them. Do you?
An example of an increasing case as you describe but in my opinion it is natural and of course Inflation is certainly a challenge for delayed gratification, because it can erode the value of the money you have saved over time. However, it is important to recognize that inflation is a normal part of a healthy economy, and can usually be managed through a variety of financial tools and strategies. For example, investing in assets whose value tends to increase over time Buying land, rice fields or buying gold can help you offset inflation and maintain the purchasing power of your savings.
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May 11, 2023, 06:27:24 AM |
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Some time 4 years ago, I started to save so that I can buy my dream car which was around $15,450. I was determined. I cut a lot of costs and delayed so many gratifications. For example, I stopped going out with the boys. I did a lot more recycling. I quit eating out and opted for cooking my own meal, I didn't buy new clothes, jeweries, electronic devices etc. I was pretty determined to reach my car saving goal. Before I knew what was happening inflation struck and it swept across all industries. Did you know that my dream car that was an equivalent of $15,450 rose up to $23,680. My heart sunk. It took me doing some additional jobs and twice as much time to rise the new money. So, when someone said that inflation posses a great challenge for delayed gratification. That is, delayed gratification isn't as rewarding especially during inflation, recession. I agreed with them. Do you?
1.You should've invested your money rather than just saving them. Investing preserves the value of your capital and protects it from inflation. I'm not going to give you investment advise here. You should do you own research. 2.Buying an expensive car(when you don't have high enough income to maintain such car) is a bad decision if you ask me. Expensive cars lose their value pretty quickly and the cost of maintenance becomes very high(especially when the car breaks). 3.Why don't buy a cheaper car, which you could afford? Or maybe you should try to grow your income, in order to afford a 23K USD car.
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The rate of inflation differs depending on the country where you are living in, and I know how you feel because I also felt it as well. A few years ago, I was dreaming of buying a new home for myself. I know that I was far away from that, but I already saw the price, and start saving, and investing some of it to fight inflation. Then the pandemic came, and all was affected. From price of construction materials, to daily wages of the laborers etc. etc. The price of the dream home that I saw a few years ago went up by I guess at least 20%-30%. You can fight inflation by investing that money into different assets that can give you interest higher than the inflation rate base on your country. It's just that, the rate of inflation for the past 2-3 years has been high that all of us who are earning bare minimum wages are greatly affected. I also want to question you. Why didn't you invest the amount of money that you saved instead of just saving it? You know that the inflation rate will be that high right? I'm not saying that you must've invested it into Bitcoin, but at least try to invest it into different assets instead of you saving it knowing that inflation is that high. Your heart sunk, and I know the feeling. However, you must've been aware of what's happening with the economy like the inflation rate. There's nothing wrong with saving money because I'm saving a bit of my monthly salary as well. It's just that the inflation rate is very high at this moment that saving most of your money is the worst thing that you can do.
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May 11, 2023, 08:14:54 AM |
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If you wanted to make money to buy a new car, why not get a job and just put your salary into Bitcoin?! I'm sure that a few successful trades would help you on your way. Just avoid leverage trading and sh#tcoins, and you'll get there in no time
I don't think that is the best possible advice to a noble who is not a pro in trading and this kind of advice can lead to losses since the member may attempt to seek that quick route that will end him in more great danger. Buying Bitcoin is a good idea but then he must be willing to wait for a long time even longer than expected if he continues saving the way he explained in this thread., let's make a point clear when having a target savings plan that has a fixed time, Bitcoin won't be the best option as the choice of investment at that point since Bitcoin risk factor is higher in this context. If making money with bitcoin becomes so easy, then I think our world will no longer be poor, and we won't have to work so hard to save every penny every day. We all just need to invest in bitcoin and get rich, LOL. Bitcoin is indeed a great investment, but it should not be too divine, should not be completely dependent on it, and moreover, not every investment will yield a return. Whether the investment is profitable or not depends on each person's strategy, not on bitcoin. If OP puts money in bitcoin when bitcoin is at 60k then he will wait longer than save. Op is also not new to this market; he has considered the best options for him, and for not using bitcoin in this case, he certainly has a reason.
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May 11, 2023, 10:16:43 AM |
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-snip- Did you know that my dream car that was an equivalent of $15,450 rose up to $23,680. My heart sunk. It took me doing some additional jobs and twice as much time to rise the new money.
Is this a real example? I don't think that a luxury goods company would significantly increase the price of a product as long as it's not a staple. Moreover, if abnormal inflation (hyperinflation) occurs globally, the government will usually issue a solution policy immediately to maintain the welfare of the workers even though it depends on the implementation. So basically, your income will also be readjusted or increased.
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