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May 25, 2023, 09:52:18 PM |
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I don't know if there's any legal or ethical grounds I can pursue here, but if anyone knows please let me know. AFAIK, every website with an affiliate program has Terms of Service, where it is clearly stated that the website owners can change the rules of the affiliate program(including commission rates) anytime they want. Joining the Affiliate program means that you accept those Terms of Service. Good luck going to court with any claims. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I don't know about any affiliate program in the world, that would agree to discuss any changes of the commission rates with their affiliates. If you don't like the new commission rates, just stop promoting BCGame and try to find a casino with a more lucrative affiliate program. They have the right but the site should inform everyone if there’s a changes with the terms. Pursuing this to the court might not be worth it, instead of stressing yourself on that site, better to look for other option where you can still make profit on their affiliate program. This is how casinos work, they always change their ToS just to meat their goals and target profit, if its not ok already then move on to another.
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May 26, 2023, 08:50:50 AM |
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As far as I can see in that regard, there is nothing you can do if bc games change their established rules because they are the ones who administer or control games and we are just players who decide whether we follow it or not.
But it cannot be denied the size of the percentage of their referral bonus. But if you think you have a fight or claim against what you are fighting in games, it is your right as long as you are in the right and you have strong evidence against them.
Well, whether it is a change in their games, in their terms and conditions, in their bonuses, or their referral commission percentage, a player or an affiliate can simply do nothing at all, they have all the rights to make any changes they want and casinos also mention this in their terms and conditions that they can always make changes in anything within the platform. An affiliate who used the casino and earned commissions from their referrals will probably have to migrate to another platform in such a case since they will probably not change their policies only for one affiliate and they probably made the changes for a reason.
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June 02, 2023, 01:47:28 PM |
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I don't know if there's any legal or ethical grounds I can pursue here, but if anyone knows please let me know. AFAIK, every website with an affiliate program has Terms of Service, where it is clearly stated that the website owners can change the rules of the affiliate program(including commission rates) anytime they want. Joining the Affiliate program means that you accept those Terms of Service. Good luck going to court with any claims. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I don't know about any affiliate program in the world, that would agree to discuss any changes of the commission rates with their affiliates. If you don't like the new commission rates, just stop promoting BCGame and try to find a casino with a more lucrative affiliate program. Its not a legal question in my opinion, rather a loyality question. They changed it without letting us know by still showing us the old commission rate on their website (35%) - Eventhough its only 9.8% right now. I earn now more on Nanogames then on BCGame (Nanogames is a clone of BCGame) - Where I only have a third of my referrals invited yet. That's kinda funny. Its a serious sign of money problems. They obviously had to change stuff to adjust to their money issues. A pre-stage of death (just my opinion) I wrote coco (BCGame creator) and let him know my opinion. The message is still unread since a week though. BCGame will die soon or later, its showing clear signs of a breakdown. I will certainly not advertise BCGame anymore.
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Mr. Magkaisa
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June 02, 2023, 02:31:27 PM |
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As far as I can see in that regard, there is nothing you can do if bc games change their established rules because they are the ones who administer or control games and we are just players who decide whether we follow it or not.
But it cannot be denied the size of the percentage of their referral bonus. But if you think you have a fight or claim against what you are fighting in games, it is your right as long as you are in the right and you have strong evidence against them.
Well, whether it is a change in their games, in their terms and conditions, in their bonuses, or their referral commission percentage, a player or an affiliate can simply do nothing at all, they have all the rights to make any changes they want and casinos also mention this in their terms and conditions that they can always make changes in anything within the platform. An affiliate who used the casino and earned commissions from their referrals will probably have to migrate to another platform in such a case since they will probably not change their policies only for one affiliate and they probably made the changes for a reason. - Definitely, everything you said is true mate. Everyone has the right to complain but everyone can't do anything if the gambling admin suddenly changes that when it comes to Tos, this is true, we can only complain. So if this happens, let's just accept it and now it's up to us if we continue to play gambling using their platform, after all we're not forced to stay with them, right?
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June 02, 2023, 02:38:36 PM |
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From 35% to 9.8%, that's cruel... but they can modify their terms of service, I think there is nothing to do about that, you know their casino their rules.
But if isn't a good business to have the affiliates there, then there is always the option to move to a new casino. I have been working with the affiliates program in betnomi, and they offer that 35% of the users wager under the Revenue Share program. You should consider it as an option.
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June 02, 2023, 08:28:36 PM |
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Update: Just spoke with an admin, nothing he can do about it. I guess it's time I say goodbye to this site. Taking my 43 referrals and millions wagered every week along with me.
Wow you have a great fan base and any casino losing you will definitely feel the impact atleast for the moment and since you're already an established member, why didn't they come up with something and let you work on something. I've read some similar stories where it seems most casinos seems to be jealous of the rewards and winnings of their players and customers especially when it seems the casino is greatly on the losing side. Well you have to be careful when choosing the next one and I alsonfeel for you because you will have to work extra hard again because not all your fans would want to follow you to the next casino for maybe some personal issues or maybe they ready favouriting the previous casino already.
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June 02, 2023, 08:50:10 PM |
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I have been on bc.game since a couple of years. I have a successful affiliate campaign on there with over 40k+ commission made. But recently they decreased my affiliate percentage from 35% to 9.8% without any prior discussion or intimation.
I offer 10% to my referrals on their wager as a bonus to encourage them to use my link. Now that my affiliate % has been cut down to under 10% I virtually made 0 money on the last 4 million wagered under me as I still paid my referrals their 10%. It's insane how BCGame threw me under the bus like this without any discussion with me.
I think this is part of their cost cutting campaign which began with them removing rakeback completely from the site followed by now slashing affiliate percentages. I tried reaching out to BCGame staff in so many ways but to zero success.
I don't know if there's any legal or ethical grounds I can pursue here, but if anyone knows please let me know.
With every dollar being wagered on my referral now, I'm losing money.
Why not on cutting those referral bonus to at least 5% on which you would really be having at least 4.5% left or having no negative? Its quite understandable about your frustration considering that dropping from 35% to 9.8 is a huge down which it would be normal that if you do make out that kind of dealings out of your referral then it would really be surely affect you. Cost cutting? Possibly because this would be the nearest reason on why they do make out such adjustments. Legal grounds or something? Better not to mind yourself about this because on this changes then there's nothing you can do if they would decide on cutting it out Therefore, the best thing you do is to let those referrals know on whats the current condition so that if you do decide on making a cut too then you should really tell them about the true reason behind. You cant just make yourself paying up and patching up those lacking amounts just because you've been having the deal.Yes, its understandable but its not ideal on doing it anymore now that it had been cut up.
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June 02, 2023, 09:20:48 PM |
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I have been on bc.game since a couple of years. I have a successful affiliate campaign on there with over 40k+ commission made. But recently they decreased my affiliate percentage from 35% to 9.8% without any prior discussion or intimation.
I offer 10% to my referrals on their wager as a bonus to encourage them to use my link. Now that my affiliate % has been cut down to under 10% I virtually made 0 money on the last 4 million wagered under me as I still paid my referrals their 10%. It's insane how BCGame threw me under the bus like this without any discussion with me.
I think this is part of their cost cutting campaign which began with them removing rakeback completely from the site followed by now slashing affiliate percentages. I tried reaching out to BCGame staff in so many ways but to zero success.
I don't know if there's any legal or ethical grounds I can pursue here, but if anyone knows please let me know.
With every dollar being wagered on my referral now, I'm losing money.
You are operating on their terms and conditions. I am sure that you read through it? It's their casino, they can change whatever into whatever they like. You do not have a referral contract with them? Thats your own fault. Although if you are making a lot of money as one of their best referrers, then I am sure they would be happy to negotiate special terms. You should just reach out and ask them yourself, instead of whining about it in the gambling forum. Seriously, what kind of a business man/woman are you? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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June 03, 2023, 04:34:52 AM |
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Sadly, Casino think that Affiliates just milking money to them without doing anything that’s why it’s easy for them to cut loose since they already get what they want. Affiliate can’t pull out their invites so it’s take it or leave it already for them after the initial high affiliate commission.
Not only Affiliate commissions is what casinos now cutting expenses but also their bonuses for loyalty reward. Most of the perks is now decrease after getting their target customer volume from initial introduction benefits. This is why many gamblers is exploring new casino even if it’s dangerous.
This problem is so common when things are done that a community does not like, if there are bad decisions that harm a community, that community will quickly turn its back on the project or the casino, and this is very common in the projects, but in the casinos when they are with the affiliates and they mess with them, I think it is one of the worst decisions they can make, in this case it is as similar as messing with a community, at any moment they will take away all the support and they will not allow themselves to be or do the things that they are destined to commit, so support like this should not be allowed, it should not be treated like this, of course it is my Opinion , but I have gone through similar things with some Sites.
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June 03, 2023, 09:41:23 AM |
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From 35% to 9.8%, that's cruel... but they can modify their terms of service, I think there is nothing to do about that, you know their casino their rules.
But if isn't a good business to have the affiliates there, then there is always the option to move to a new casino. I have been working with the affiliates program in betnomi, and they offer that 35% of the users wager under the Revenue Share program. You should consider it as an option.
It is certainly not good for affiliates but the casino is probably cutting costs with this. I think the main issue for an affiliate in such a situation would be to migrate with their referrals to another platform because they and their referrals must have already wagered a lot of money and might have also gotten VIP status and if not, they must be close to that and no one would like to migrate to a new platform after reaching so close to that. The VIP perks and bonuses they might get from the platform will all be gone and they will need to start all fresh from the beginning, and I doubt if everyone would be willing to do that, so the affiliate might lose a lot of referrals due to this even if he decides to migrate.
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