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May 03, 2023, 12:07:35 PM
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Hi everyone, a few days ago he made a post here asking for someone to do a data entry job and he also had one before about designing images.

He agreed on making a deal but after asking for atleast an escrow or a downpayment he no longer respond to my message.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3544144

There is no money involved yet but I just want to put this as a warning incase he makes another post here asking for help. Atleast a decent guy will reply that he no longer need someone for the job instead of ghosting.
The account was created on march and a newbie without any reputation, then the account shouldn’t be trusted, you are even lucky you requested for escrow before making transaction with him. If you are trying to make transactions on the forum here with a newbie or even higher ranks, make sure you make use of reputable escrow service, the forum is a open space and no one should be trusted most especially a newbie with no reputation, after using the account for illegal activities, they can easily abandon the account and create new one.

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If it's assumed that it's only a small value deal, you're actually giving a difficult choice. Even just the cost of using an escrow service can't cover the actual transaction value, on the other hand (sorry to say) you're not trusted enough in the eyes of clients. Simply put, there are some consumer behaviors that must be understood such as the typical person who doesn't like small talk. Not giving final confirmation can be considered refusing the deal as long as there is no potential financial loss for both parties.

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May 04, 2023, 05:09:07 PM
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This is one thing about this users, I don't know if they intentionally wanna pull people's legs whenever they mentioned of hiring someone for a job or task after which you may have finish the design or task you might not get feedback from them anymore, sometimes ago I was as well contacted for a data job which I was asked to download all sorts of software on my laptop.

After which he was promising to pay the next day though we didn't succeed with the task but saying of paying for my time which I agreed with him or she but getting to the next day I was blocked on telegram and all our conversation was wiped away by him.
So after that I learnt a lesson of never to pay attention to newbies that wants someone to do some task for them to pay.


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This is one thing about this users, I don't know if they intentionally wanna pull people's legs whenever they mentioned of hiring someone for a job or task after which you may have finish the design or task you might not get feedback from them anymore, sometimes ago I was as well contacted for a data job which I was asked to download all sorts of software on my laptop.

After which he was promising to pay the next day though we didn't succeed with the task but saying of paying for my time which I agreed with him or she but getting to the next day I was blocked on telegram and all our conversation was wiped away by him.
So after that I learnt a lesson of never to pay attention to newbies that wants someone to do some task for them to pay.

So far, i know there are no restrictions on ranks in rendering services and it would be very unfair not to allow some certain ranks in doing such but the rate at which newbies just get registered without much activities start putting up task requesting for services of members and after which they abscond is not good it demoralizes and discourage someone. I wish it could be possible that the forum administrator looks into this and clearly come up with a policy restricting newbies to start putting up services.
This is my opinion if newbies should be allowed to do such;
If any newbie should be allowed to render services, they must have escrow the funds to a reputable high rank member here on a neutral ground so if they abscond, the escrow would have no choice of releasing the funds after some number of days past  waiting for the newbie to resurface and lastly,

In the absence of wanting an escrow, a newbie should have had some certain numbers of activities to qualify them to put up job offer  so if they abscond, they have something lightly to loose.

This would be nice in checkmating the activities of newbies who claim to be offering services to members here.

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May 05, 2023, 08:41:14 PM
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This is one thing about this users, I don't know if they intentionally wanna pull people's legs whenever they mentioned of hiring someone for a job or task after which you may have finish the design or task you might not get feedback from them anymore, sometimes ago I was as well contacted for a data job which I was asked to download all sorts of software on my laptop.

After which he was promising to pay the next day though we didn't succeed with the task but saying of paying for my time which I agreed with him or she but getting to the next day I was blocked on telegram and all our conversation was wiped away by him.
So after that I learnt a lesson of never to pay attention to newbies that wants someone to do some task for them to pay.

So far, i know there are no restrictions on ranks in rendering services and it would be very unfair not to allow some certain ranks in doing such but the rate at which newbies just get registered without much activities start putting up task requesting for services of members and after which they abscond is not good it demoralizes and discourage someone. I wish it could be possible that the forum administrator looks into this and clearly come up with a policy restricting newbies to start putting up services.
This is my opinion if newbies should be allowed to do such;
If any newbie should be allowed to render services, they must have escrow the funds to a reputable high rank member here on a neutral ground so if they abscond, the escrow would have no choice of releasing the funds after some number of days past  waiting for the newbie to resurface and lastly,

In the absence of wanting an escrow, a newbie should have had some certain numbers of activities to qualify them to put up job offer  so if they abscond, they have something lightly to loose.

This would be nice in checkmating the activities of newbies who claim to be offering services to members here.

Usually I don't think if this has anything to do with administrators or mods is left for us to seek for the escrow funds before starting up the task per say. I believe this forum is a free and fair community that allows anyone to post any job offers, it's then left for you and I to choose whether to work or seek to escrow funds, or even asking for part payment before continuing the task.
However, I have learnt my lessons and that's a new method I have to apply by seeking for and escrow before starting up Job.


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Anyone can come on this forum that needs someone's service in return for money. What I am saying is that you supposed to add the person's username so that we can all know the person's username.
Sorry , I forgot to add the profile link. I added it.

Also as I mentioned. No money was involved but his actions was unethical and something that should be avoided.
The business world has a standard business approach that should be followed. It is possible that this user doesn't understand business ethics which was why he refused to respond. He might feel that since no party has performed any service or made any payment, the business can be called off without information. I have experienced this behavior many times with prospective clients. Maybe he has gotten another person to perform the service. But the ideal thing was to inform you of his final decision. He has not been active since April 26th, so there might be the possibility that he might be going through some unpleasant situation. However, Op took a good decision by requesting an escrow, and thank God nobody got cheated.

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May 08, 2023, 08:27:17 PM
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Anyone can come on this forum that needs someone's service in return for money. What I am saying is that you supposed to add the person's username so that we can all know the person's username.
Sorry , I forgot to add the profile link. I added it.

Also as I mentioned. No money was involved but his actions was unethical and something that should be avoided.
The business world has a standard business approach that should be followed. It is possible that this user doesn't understand business ethics which was why he refused to respond. He might feel that since no party has performed any service or made any payment, the business can be called off without information. I have experienced this behavior many times with prospective clients. Maybe he has gotten another person to perform the service. But the ideal thing was to inform you of his final decision. He has not been active since April 26th, so there might be the possibility that he might be going through some unpleasant situation. However, Op took a good decision by requesting an escrow, and thank God nobody got cheated.

That was a good move by OP. You know things happens and we have no idea why he has not been online for sometime now. Although such experience is not a new thing to me as I know how to handle such  when ever it occurs. OP should just forget about him as there is every possibility that he or she might have gotten another source for the job or something might have happened but however, if he or she is genuine, their is every possiblity that they would return back to OP for continuation of their deal.

OP, at this point I will advise to keep watch he just might come back but this time be sure to confirm with escrow before you proceed with your agreement.

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May 09, 2023, 06:56:36 AM
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Anyone can come on this forum that needs someone's service in return for money. What I am saying is that you supposed to add the person's username so that we can all know the person's username.
Sorry , I forgot to add the profile link. I added it.

Also as I mentioned. No money was involved but his actions was unethical and something that should be avoided.
The business world has a standard business approach that should be followed. It is possible that this user doesn't understand business ethics which was why he refused to respond. He might feel that since no party has performed any service or made any payment, the business can be called off without information. I have experienced this behavior many times with prospective clients. Maybe he has gotten another person to perform the service. But the ideal thing was to inform you of his final decision. He has not been active since April 26th, so there might be the possibility that he might be going through some unpleasant situation. However, Op took a good decision by requesting an escrow, and thank God nobody got cheated.
Most times it is not about knowing the business  ethics of getting back to your client when the terms of agreement are not soothing to you. It is sometimes a thing of tight schedules. I have seen myself in such a situation where I'll message someone about a service and maybe I will message more than 1 person and because of schedules or the job is not kicking off immediately. I'll forget to complete the conversation until when I'm ready, I'll scroll through my chat to restart the conversation.
However, no matter how busy I'll be, I'll never forget to drop a simple and short message like "I'll get back". Then, it means I'll get back and it's not a crime if I never get back again.

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Hi everyone, a few days ago he made a post here asking for someone to do a data entry job and he also had one before about designing images.

He agreed on making a deal but after asking for atleast an escrow or a downpayment he no longer respond to my message.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3544144

There is no money involved yet but I just want to put this as a warning incase he makes another post here asking for help. Atleast a decent guy will reply that he no longer need someone for the job instead of ghosting.
It's possible for some persons to act this way for reasons personally known to them but in this case lets try to sway our mind by asking the question: what if he's suddenly battling with some health incident after the whole post which now impedes the poster from given a feedback to you.
Except the poster is still active after making the post, having a deal with you and then not replying there then it can be assumed he/she is ghosting. OP what I expect you to do now is to take your mind of it as one of those normal fail deals we encounter in businesses.

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