South Africa in trouble.

[huu78]

This has nothing to do with other African countries if South Africa decided to join the BRICS. This suppose not to be the problem of the United States and NATO. I knowndie to sentiment and the United States may want to sanction South Africa for this but that supposed not to be our problem. I still don't know why the United States likes flexing there power even though they are the world power here.

I think very countries has the choice to join any association or group that they want without any issue. If South Africa would be sanctioned for this because they join BRICS then we all going to know that this is based on sentiment.

While it is understandable that you may perceive the United States as flexing its power in international affairs, it's important to note that countries often pursue their own interests and employ various strategies to protect and promote those interests. Sanctions can be one of the tools used by countries to express disapproval or to pressure other nations in response to perceived actions or policies.

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[DrBeer]

What's this? A little fuck you to US? That wouldn't sit well with the rest of the world!

"I want to put my fingers in a socket, but I don't think it's fair to get electrocuted!"

That's basically what SA's asking for with this amazing maneuver. They wanted to help terrorism and the invasion of territories but do not want to suffer the consequences of their actions when shit hits the fan. Of course the South Africans who are once again got nothing to do with this situation are going to suffer the brunt of the work from various NATO colonies as per usual. Although I don't think an outfront attack will happen cause that's basically asking for war.

In any case, South Africa is definitely going to be in a massive problem once the dust settles, this basically outs them as someone who confides with the Putin and their crooked beliefs but whatever, let's just see how things pan out.

as a citizen of Ukraine, and related to the situation in the country, I can say a few interesting facts.
1. "The Russian army is the second army in the world in terms of power and technology" - FAKE! Proven, on the territory of Ukraine.
2. After the defeat of the army of terrorists of the Russian Federation, in the Kharkiv region and in the south of Ukraine, Russia began to beg for ordinary weapons from all countries that did not support the sanctions, or did not fully support the sanctions. The range of such countries is small. Cambodia SOLD Russia, T34 tanks . Iran, the right hand of the international terrorist Russia, SOLD them UAVs, cartridges for small arms. North Korea SOLD "Great Russia" systems for MLRS, such as "Grad". For one thing, North Korea sold to Russia, the standard Chinese 82-caliber mines that we found in Ukraine, freeing the territories temporarily occupied by Russia. Yes, we assumed that these were Chinese supplies, but China, frightened, quickly provided all the documents that showed that these batches of mines were delivered to North Korea, and then "great Russia" begged for them

In the same way, there are facts of the supply of basic weapons from the "repositories" of South Africa. And they are confirmed by the facts of detection of weapons, with the marking of South Africa in Ukraine. Now the question is - are these "official deliveries of South Africa", or did someone take advantage of the situation and make illegal deliveries? If this was a concerted move by the South African government, it turns out by law that South Africa is an accomplice of international terrorists, and will legally receive sanctions! I don't see any problems!

https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-safrica-idAFKBN2X30KM

[Argoo]

South Africa is really in a quandary right now, and not only because of the possible supply of weapons to Russia to wage war against Ukraine. The BRICS summit is approaching, and South Africa, as the host country, must decide how to deal with Putin's possible visit to this summit. An arrest warrant has been issued for him by the International Criminal Court, and South Africa is a member of this organization and should arrest Putin when visiting its territory.
Apparently, they wanted to resolve this issue by the arrival of a number of leaders of African states, including those from South Africa, to Ukraine, allegedly on a peacekeeping mission. Therefore, one of the group's first proposals was to suspend the ICC warrant for Putin's arrest. But this plan was not destined to come true. Therefore, South Africa continues to look for a way out.

[usekevin]

The most of the economic growth of Africa is based on the economic activity of South Africa.Because the South Africa is the important one.When South Africa into Europe,people of full development need to wait till the completion was over.The issue should be short earlier to avoid huge fight betwee the African nation and their brothers.So South Africa economy will affect full Africa economy.

[Fortify]

The recent accusation by US Ambassador Reuben E. Brigety that South Africa sent arms to Russia is making investors sell off the South African rand and bonds. Investors are scared that the US and its allies will hit the country with severe economic sanctions. The rand has lost value since the news was published, the currency is now 19.3250 against the dollar, its weakest in three years.

If it is confirmed that South Africa sent weapons and ammunition to Russia, the country will suffer economic problems because of sanctions. It will also be a big blow to the African economy because South Africa is the economic powerhouse of Africa. Many South African countries like Zimbabwe, Botswana Mozambique, Namibia, Eswatini, etc, depend on South Africa economically. South Africa also employs a greater number of Africans because they have many striving multinational firms.

As an African, I pray this accusation is not true because a sanction on South Africa is a sanction on the entire Africa.

Sadly South Africa has been led by many successive and self enriching government ministers for decades now. It once made a very big name for itself as one of the most prosperous places in Africa, it has immense beauty and resources, but sadly it is being squandered. The country seems to step by step head into more lawless territory and there is defacto vast segregation between communities because of high levels of the most horrendous crime. It's crazy seeing the sort of fortifications that people have to come up with in order to live peacefully at home and almost unthinkable to step outside those walls into the general community sometimes. It feels like a long way from getting better.

[Bitcoin2009]

Of course it is sad if these accusations are proven, heavy economic sanctions will be accepted and make the condition of the African economy even more difficult, I don't know if these accusations are true or not but I hope for the best because sanctions will only make things difficult, and international tensions can continue increase.

[justdimin]

Sadly South Africa has been led by many successive and self enriching government ministers for decades now. It once made a very big name for itself as one of the most prosperous places in Africa, it has immense beauty and resources, but sadly it is being squandered. The country seems to step by step head into more lawless territory and there is defacto vast segregation between communities because of high levels of the most horrendous crime. It's crazy seeing the sort of fortifications that people have to come up with in order to live peacefully at home and almost unthinkable to step outside those walls into the general community sometimes. It feels like a long way from getting better.

Unfortunately that is true for almost every single politician all around the world. I do not know any politician who became poorer than the time they enter by the time they quit. Every single politician that went into politics, retired richer than they started. That can't be done with just public servant wage, because it is not that a lot, it is good of course but not a ton.

I believe that it would be very difficult to do something regarding this project and I believe that South Africa is not that different in that regard. It is obvious that it will take some time before people could say that it is a smart decision for South Africa to change politicians, considering no matter who is elected into whichever position, the result could very well be the same.

[Joshapat]

South Africa has been a loyal ally with the USA for a long time, now there are allegations of weapons supply to Russia, I hope this is not proven so that it makes South Africa safe from sanctions, if sanctions occur, of course it will create a lot of difficulties and a long economic recession for South Africa.

[speeder]

South Africa has been a loyal ally with the USA for a long time, now there are allegations of weapons supply to Russia, I hope this is not proven so that it makes South Africa safe from sanctions, if sanctions occur, of course it will create a lot of difficulties and a long economic recession for South Africa.

As far as I know, no strong links to arms supply to Russia have been found. However, South Africa is in a lot of trouble due to the issuance of Putin's arrest warrant from the political side. Again, looking at the economy, it can be seen that the economic structure has been filled with lor for a long time. Rising inflationary pressures and food shortages are noticeable. But I think the Ukraine Russia war has had a severe impact on the economy more or less all over the world

[Franctoshi]

There is more to this, The US government is not happy with South Africa, and he's Brick's nation Alies Russia and China after Putin and the Chinese President's recent visit to South Africa, The US is becoming worried about how close the Russian Government led by Putin has become close allies with South Africa, and maybe looking for a way to victimize or indict and punish the South African government for that.

[teosanru]

The recent accusation by US Ambassador Reuben E. Brigety that South Africa sent arms to Russia is making investors sell off the South African rand and bonds. Investors are scared that the US and its allies will hit the country with severe economic sanctions. The rand has lost value since the news was published, the currency is now 19.3250 against the dollar, its weakest in three years.

If it is confirmed that South Africa sent weapons and ammunition to Russia, the country will suffer economic problems because of sanctions. It will also be a big blow to the African economy because South Africa is the economic powerhouse of Africa. Many South African countries like Zimbabwe, Botswana Mozambique, Namibia, Eswatini, etc, depend on South Africa economically. South Africa also employs a greater number of Africans because they have many striving multinational firms.

As an African, I pray this accusation is not true because a sanction on South Africa is a sanction on the entire Africa.

First of all i am sure even if South Africa did supply arms to Russia, this thing will never completely get confirmed because even NATO would not want to give heat to the issue of war once again because if Sanctions are brought it'll slowly start becoming the World vs NATO. Some people labelling BRICS here, it has nothing to do with that, it's a non defensive union so no diplomacy around defense would be played there. But in general it would leave a bad impression for the NATO doing this. Secondly even if It's proved there is unlikely chance again to put sanctions on South Africa, US is already on brink of collapse with Russian sanctions, South Africa is diamond provider for world it'll create new issues in global supply chain again which obviously US won't be able to handle.

[chrisculanag]

It is hard to imagine that every wrong move by every country can bring disaster to everyone. If it is true or not or if there are such illegal activities in South Africa, they can give danger in their place. We know that just talking about arms gives fear to every country so we can't blame if the other country takes steps to strengthen their jurisdiction. Its better if South Africa would  be progressive for the better future of their country and its constituents.

[DrBeer]

Another piece of news that will affect other countries on the African continent: the African countries that supported Putin will be deprived of European aid!
After Russia started its war in Ukraine, almost half of the African countries did not support the UN resolution condemning the invasion: 25 abstained or were absent, and Eritrea sided with Moscow.
"Some African countries have expressed their support for Russia. We will be watching them," he said, adding that overall the government plans to cut financial aid to developing countries by about one billion euros. The new cabinet will start work on June 20.
Finland, through international programs and organizations, annually allocates several billion euros in aid to developing countries.
Soon the whole EU will support the initiative.
Well, let's be honest - to support and finance those who support a country which leads economic terrorism against the EU and has unleashed a terrorist war in Europe is the height of idiocy!

[EarnOnVictor]

If it is confirmed that South Africa sent weapons and ammunition to Russia, the country will suffer economic problems because of sanctions. It will also be a big blow to the African economy because South Africa is the economic powerhouse of Africa.

The selfish and self-serving South Africa should know this before they do the ignoble and shameful act where thousands of people have been killed. I was moved with tears on Wednesday when I read that over 139 children have been killed in the war initiated by the tyrant Putin. These are innocent children whose lives were just cut short, and for South Africa to be indirectly supporting the war is heartless, they deserve to be sanctioned.

Mind you, businesses would move elsewhere within Africa if the sanction is unbearable for them, it's the Xenophobic country that will face the largest brunt.

Personally, I would have loved it if they also let Cyril Ramaphosa face the charge before ICC after his tenure, so that this will be a deterrent to other countries' leaders.

Many South African countries like Zimbabwe, Botswana Mozambique, Namibia, Eswatini, etc, depend on South Africa economically. South Africa also employs a greater number of Africans because they have many striving multinational firms.

It's simple, they would turn to other countries if the sanction is so severe. Without South Africa, they will surely survive, it might only be tough at first. No country can't be independent of.

As an African, I pray this accusation is not true because a sanction on South Africa is a sanction on the entire Africa.

I'm afraid this accusation is true, the US will not open their mouth on such a big allegation if there is no proof for it. Only that it's not a direct shipment of arms and ammunition but supplies of the materials that could be made into weapons.

A very big shame to South Africa for this!

[Desscount]

South Africa has been a loyal ally with the USA for a long time, now there are allegations of weapons supply to Russia, I hope this is not proven so that it makes South Africa safe from sanctions, if sanctions occur, of course it will create a lot of difficulties and a long economic recession for South Africa.

With the allegations that there are certainly the United States government will not remain silent,
I hope it's not true and escape sanctions,
just imagine if South Africa is proven to be supplying weapons to Russia then big sanctions will await it and that will also have an impact on many things for South Africa.

[Kadal Ijo]

Of course this is news that often makes headlines in many media, accusations that south Africa is supplying weapons to Russia of course need accurate evidence, and hopefully this is not proven so that south Africa can escape heavy sanctions, we know that currently south Africa is developing and be the hope for many countries in Africa.

[Argoo]

Of course this is news that often makes headlines in many media, accusations that south Africa is supplying weapons to Russia of course need accurate evidence, and hopefully this is not proven so that south Africa can escape heavy sanctions, we know that currently south Africa is developing and be the hope for many countries in Africa.

South Africa has not only a problem with the possible supply of weapons to Russia for use in the war against Ukraine.
South Africa invited Russian President Vladimir Putin to take part in the BRICS summit, which is scheduled for August 22-24. Putin is wanted by the International Criminal Court for the kidnapping of Ukrainian children, and as a member of the court, South Africa will be under an obligation to arrest him if he turns up.

South Africa has refused to support sanctions against Russia or condemn its aggression against Ukraine. However, the issuance of an arrest warrant for Putin by the International Criminal Court for the forced deportation of Ukrainian children from Russian-occupied territory has put South Africa's ruling party in an awkward position.

The South African authorities announced in April that they intended to withdraw from the Rome Statute, but then announced that the Republic of South Africa remains a member of the International Criminal Court and will continue to consistently apply international law. It was also reported that South Africa asked Vladimir Putin not to come to the BRICS summit, but to participate via Zoom. How will this problem be solved for South Africa,

[stompix]

The most of the economic growth of Africa is based on the economic activity of South Africa.

Yeah right, and one page from this topic we have this:
Power outages causes huge economic loss in south Africa.
Growth? What growth?
South African economy slumps in Q4

Secondly even if It's proved there is unlikely chance again to put sanctions on South Africa, US is already on brink of collapse with Russian sanctions, South Africa is diamond provider for world it'll create new issues in global supply chain again which obviously US won't be able to handle.

On what planet do you spend your morning newspaper reading time? Cause you need to come back to earth!
And btw, Canada produces twice as many diamonds as South Africa which barely has 5% of the global production!
The US is donating via USAID 10 times the value of all diamond imports for food security, who do you think will end up in trouble?

[bitgolden]

South Africa has not only a problem with the possible supply of weapons to Russia for use in the war against Ukraine.
South Africa invited Russian President Vladimir Putin to take part in the BRICS summit, which is scheduled for August 22-24. Putin is wanted by the International Criminal Court for the kidnapping of Ukrainian children, and as a member of the court, South Africa will be under an obligation to arrest him if he turns up.

South Africa has refused to support sanctions against Russia or condemn its aggression against Ukraine. However, the issuance of an arrest warrant for Putin by the International Criminal Court for the forced deportation of Ukrainian children from Russian-occupied territory has put South Africa's ruling party in an awkward position.

The South African authorities announced in April that they intended to withdraw from the Rome Statute, but then announced that the Republic of South Africa remains a member of the International Criminal Court and will continue to consistently apply international law. It was also reported that South Africa asked Vladimir Putin not to come to the BRICS summit, but to participate via Zoom. How will this problem be solved for South Africa,

First of all Zoom is already a great response, they still welcome him, but neither have a trouble, both South Africa keeps supporting Russia by giving him the screen time and letting him speak at BRICS meeting just as they wanted to, but also at the same time we are talking about him not setting foot in the nation and not forcing anyone to arrest him.

That is why this would make sense, with the whole Wagner situation recently, I am sure that there are more important things Putin tries to handle first, but at the end of the day as long as nations collaborate together against the western block, it is not going to be simple for west anymore, they won't be able to rule with iron fist however they want just like they did so far.

[Sithara007]

This entire argument doesn't sound logical for me. Initially they were accusing Iran of supplying drones to the Russian Armed Forces and now they are accusing South Africa. As far as I know, South Africa is a net importer of weapons. What is the need for Russia to import weapons from this country, when the manufacturing facilities within Russia are operating at full-strength? I guess these arguments are levelled against South Africa because they refused to join the Western bloc in enforcing sanctions against Russia. However, I really doubt whether such coercive actions would make any change in their stance. It can have the opposite effect.