Wearing Double signature (Shan85)

[nutildah]

Wow, he must some greedy bastard. He has a lot of alt accounts. I have just uncovered a few.

Here's some connections on the ETH side of things.

Shan85 (2)

#Proof of Authentication
Bitcointalk username: Shan85
Bitcointalk URL link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3411432
Telegram Username: @Shan2750
Participated Compaign: Content Creations Compaign
ERC-20 Wallet: 0x0c38Da1fECDC144bE9E353CfbF125aA934d9da37

Uzairmotti11

Compaign: Twitter, Instagram
Spreadsheet:
Twitter no: 288
Instagram no: 100
Matic address: 0xe1c4eF1474f05fCb77266BA68f879E677Cb55Eb8

catooo

Proof of Registration
Bitcointalk username: catooo
Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3490256
Participated Compaign: Video, Article, Twitter, Facebook
Telegram username: @cutecatooo
BSC wallet address: 0x5d5e26F28B9fDFFbe4E3d26CB681d30F3548030F

BlackAdamm

Proof of authentication
Bitcointalk username: BlackAdamm
Bitcointalk Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3513357
Telegram username: @BlackAdamm0
Participated Compaign: Twitter, Facebook, linkedin, Article, Video
BSC wallet address: 0xCb55c62d853765B122f33C28312E6432aaD6179B

Uzairjutt275

#PROOF OF AUTHENTICATION
Forum Username: Uzairjutt275
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3476466
Participated Campaigns: Signature
BEP-20 Wallet Address: 0x44E65103E0a499350533D8Ec9D46EC5e0569273c

Shared Binance deposit address:


Further connection:

Shan85

#Proof of Authentication Post
Bitcointalk Username: Shan85
Bitcointalk Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3411432
Telegram Username: @Shan2750
Campaign Category Participated: Content Creation
BSC Wallet Address: 0x0c38Da1fECDC144bE9E353CfbF125aA934d9da37

Sent to intermediary address:

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[UchihaSarada]

Average income around the world. In Pakistan, it is about $1,470 annual or $123 monthly.
Cheating two campaigns brings a monthly salary that is doubled than Pakistanis average income monthly.

Is there a place in the world you could live like a king via sig campaigns?
Signature campaign: The lowest and highest payment BTC and USD in 2013-2022

[rby]

Really a good work by @bbigtart.

I wonder how they spotted that user is wearing different signature, hopefully they might be checking each and every user's sig on duelbit campaign sheet; but why? for merits? IMO definitely they deserve much appreciations.

The irony of the matter is that even the bbigtart haven't received any merits for the scam catch at Duelbits thread, rather the merits all came to this thread. I wouldn't care if the user uncovered this scam because of merits but he did great. It could be that both Hhampuz and Royse777 had already sent their weekly pay to the cheat. If not, I would recommend that either of them employ the method of icopress by giving the week's pay to the scam buster.
I have never heard of this kind of scam. Is it a new trend coming into the signature campaign?
I also understand that signature changes almost immediately it is updated, but avatar takes sometime before it updates, so this cheat should have been caught earlier. Now, attention is dragged to this kind of scam, I wouldn't be surprised if more cheats are discovered.

[Despairo]

The irony of the matter is that even the bbigtart haven't received any merits for the scam catch at Duelbits thread, rather the merits all came to this thread.

I've merited him for you

I have never heard of this kind of scam. Is it a new trend coming into the signature campaign?
I also understand that signature changes almost immediately it is updated, but avatar takes sometime before it updates, so this cheat should have been caught earlier. Now, attention is dragged to this kind of scam, I wouldn't be surprised if more cheats are discovered.

I guess yes because I've active in this forum for a year and never saw this cheat before.

I think this is because of the private spreadsheet usage, we're not a BetterCallRaul participants, so we don't have any clue who are the active participants. It's true the campaign manager will let know the removed/left participants and the new accepted participants, but it's not convenient to browse each post rather than give it into one list.

If it's about privacy matter, I don't think it's harm for just show the active participants, he can remove the address etc.

[Poker Player]

Good job Bitcoin_Arena and nutildah.

I have tagged the alts I have seen that had only one negative tag and there was even one that only had a neutral tag by JG. Mostly because maybe with only one negative tag the managers might let it pass but being the tag for this they shouldn't if they check the reference.

Will there ever be a time when we see cases like these but without breaking the rules? Okay, he's from Pakistan and what you get paid here for signature campaigns is a lot of money. But you can do things legally, asshole. You can have several alts in several campaigns getting paid without breaking the rules and you will be rich in your country by writing in a fucking internet forum.

The irony of the matter is that even the bbigtart haven't received any merits for the scam catch at Duelbits thread, rather the merits all came to this thread.

I've merited him for you

Me too.

[rby]

The irony of the matter is that even the bbigtart haven't received any merits for the scam catch at Duelbits thread, rather the merits all came to this thread.

I've merited him for you

Welldone, I have also dropped a merit with the user and I also saw more from others.

I think this is because of the private spreadsheet usage, we're not a BetterCallRaul participants, so we don't have any clue who are the active participants. It's true the campaign manager will let know the removed/left participants and the new accepted participants, but it's not convenient to browse each post rather than give it into one list.

If it's about privacy matter, I don't think it's harm for just show the active participants, he can remove the address etc.

Although, I have worked under Royse777 for Mixero which also is a private spreadsheet campaign. Every week the manager publishes the name of the campaign participants in the campaign thread and it is public for anyone to view. The center of privacy in such campaigns is just the wallet address.
I trust Royse777 innovation prowess in campaign management but I am yet to figure out why he implemented this private spreadsheet method.
Some cheating alts are being bursted with address connections, but if these addresses are semi accessible, it might shield a cheat for some period of time.

Good job Bitcoin_Arena and nutildah.

I have tagged the alts I have seen that had only one negative tag and there was even one that only had a neutral tag by JG. Mostly because maybe with only one negative tag the managers might let it pass but being the tag for this they shouldn't if they check the reference.

Can you link me to this user's alt? let me add to it.

Edit:
I have figured out.
Catooo and Jenny56

[robelneo]

Really a good work by @bbigtart.

I wonder how they spotted that user is wearing different signature, hopefully they might be checking each and every user's sig on duelbit campaign sheet; but why? for merits? IMO definitely they deserve much appreciations.

The irony of the matter is that even the bbigtart haven't received any merits for the scam catch at Duelbits thread, rather the merits all came to this thread. I wouldn't care if the user uncovered this scam because of merits but he did great. It could be that both Hhampuz and Royse777 had already sent their weekly pay to the cheat. If not, I would recommend that either of them employ the method of icopress by giving the week's pay to the scam buster.

I don't have merits to give anymore but I left him positive feedback, it's a great job we are concentrating on our discussion that we are not aware of this, this is the first time I read something like this, we must all be vigilant to catch cheaters from now on and help our bounty managers, managers job is not that easy bbigtart is the first to catch a cheater like this, and the cheater is very innovative to think something like this.
Some members will try to do this, maybe in the altcoin bounty campaign we don't know but we should be aware of this now.

[Helena Yu]

I don't have merits to give anymore but I left him positive feedback

I suggest you to reconsider your feedback, I would say neutral feedback is more appropriate in this case. I'm not saying he's bad, but catching one cheater is still not deserved to be trusted.

Ask yourself, can a 5 months user who's doesn't have any financial deal can be trusted? feel free to disagree if you think I'm wrong.

Some members will try to do this, maybe in the altcoin bounty campaign we don't know but we should be aware of this now.

Altcoins bounty campaign already messed up and some managers are still accept negative trust accounts, not really worth to catch a cheater in bounty section.

[rby]

I don't have merits to give anymore but I left him positive feedback

I suggest you to reconsider your feedback, I would say neutral feedback is more appropriate in this case. I'm not saying he's bad, but catching one cheater is still not deserved to be trusted.

Ask yourself, can a 5 months user who's doesn't have any financial deal can be trusted? feel free to disagree if you think I'm wrong.

I think I disagree with you on this;
Does s/he need to catch all the cheaters in this forum before he could be trusted, if catching one cheater is not enough.

Ask yourself, can a 5 months user who's doesn't have any financial deal can be trusted?

Trust has nothing to do with how long the person exists in the forum. I will give you two instances;

• There was a user who wanted to pay for evil fee or copper membership, but theymos mistakenly sent him some btc, as new as s/he was and having joined the forum with a concealed ip, s/he chosed to return the btc. He recieved enough positive feedbacks without waiting for him to reach 5 years in the forum
• Haven't you seen someone who is trusted by many forum users for years, and they ended up with a major exit scam?

I do not think that the positive feedback is inappropriate.
How about if s/he messaged the cheat and asked them to share their rewards with him/her else they would be exposed. Don't you think that the cheat would have complied and the cheating will continue?

Looking at it from the forum way, there is a difference between positive trust and including someone in the trust list. The scam burster might not qualify for the later, but he is qualified for the former if not both.

[Helena Yu]

Does s/he need to catch all the cheaters in this forum before he could be trusted, if catching one cheater is not enough.

What if I've done catch a cheater? will I get a positive feedback too? that's so easy and someone can taking advantage for asking non collateral loan because he already get a positive feedback which could be trusted.

Trust has nothing to do with how long the person exists in the forum. I will give you two instances;

• There was a user who wanted to pay for evil fee or copper membership, but theymos mistakenly sent him some btc, as new as s/he was and having joined the forum with a concealed ip, s/he chosed to return the btc. He recieved enough positive feedbacks without waiting for him to reach 5 years in the forum
• Haven't you seen someone who is trusted by many forum users for years, and they ended up with a major exit scam?

The first case is related with financial deal, so there's nothing to do with how long he need to be in this forum.

The second case it's correct, but how many cases a low rank/short time accounts turn become scam with high rank/long time accounts turn become scam?

Catching a cheater is good and it's one of his contribution to this forum, but some users are taking advantage about it. That's why, if you want to trust a scam buster, someone need to reconsider how long he has been in this forum and how long he put his dedication for this.

[ScamViruS]

It is shameful and sad that someone has taken such steps to cheat signature campaigns to earn double. But he was caught before he could take his activities far. After watching the activity of this user, it has now alerted the managers that there are also such signature campaign participants who can cheat with two campaigns at the same time with one account.

[Xal0lex]

...from posts in incomprehensible English...

It's not incomprehensible English It is Urdu written in transliteration. Yes, it is very difficult to understand and translate. Unless, of course, you are a native Urdu speaker. Only an Urdu speaker can translate this text. No online translator can understand this text. You have to have a native speaker you know to translate this style of writing.

By the way, in the Pakistani thread, another user (ItsCrafty) was recently dismissed from the campaign for plagiarism. He participated in the [banned mixer] campaign run by icopress.

[Fiatless]

Average income around the world. In Pakistan, it is about $1,470 annual or $123 monthly.
Cheating two campaigns brings a monthly salary that is doubled than Pakistanis' average income monthly.

Is there a place in the world you could lwhen poel ive like a king via sig campaigns?
Signature campaign: The lowest and highest payment BTC and USD in 2013-2022

I feel uncomfortable when people link crime with poverty. Hunger can indeed cause someone to engage in criminal activity but it is not an excuse. Everybody has other options to make money at least to feed. His problem was not poverty or the average income from Pakistan, he was just greedy. He can live a moderate life in Pakistan with what he earns but he chose to steal because he wants more. Some members will never engage in such shameful acts even if they are in deep poverty. What he did was shameful and has brought a bad name to his country but I know some wonderful Pakistanis that will even refund funds wrongly sent to them.

[nutildah]

...from posts in incomprehensible English...

It's not incomprehensible English It is Urdu written in transliteration. Yes, it is very difficult to understand and translate. Unless, of course, you are a native Urdu speaker. Only an Urdu speaker can translate this text. No online translator can understand this text. You have to have a native speaker you know to translate this style of writing.

That's not what he's talking about -- he's talking about shitposts written by those with a negligible grasp of the English language. Peeps can shitpost in their native language all day long and I would never say anything about it because its confined to their local boards. Low-effort posts written in any other area by those with very little understanding of the English language are the worst.

If non-English speakers are trying to make an effort to convey something intelligent, that's a whole nother story, and I have respect for that. But if you have half a dozen accounts like our friend Shan85 here chances are you're just trying to skeet out the bare minimum without getting fired from your campaign(s).

[FatFork]

Wow, he must some greedy bastard. He has a lot of alt accounts. I have just uncovered a few.

Here's some connections on the ETH side of things.

Why am I not surprised. Cheater uses alt accounts to cheat in bounty campaigns. What a cliché!

Here's another one:

#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum Username: Shan85
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3411432
Telegram Username: @Shan27585
Participated Campaigns: Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and Article
BSC Wallet Address: 0xF8372702158E4436409370217B7631aFcb0BC8c8

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#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum Username: Shan85
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3411432
Telegram Username: @Shan27585
Participated Campaigns: Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Eaddit, Discord and Article
BSC Wallet Address: 0xF8372702158E4436409370217B7631aFcb0BC8c8

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They both applied to the Coindogs Bounty campaign with the same details, but Zeshan275 posted first.

[hugeblack]

It's very unfortunate but such an obvious case it falls to the campaign manager, they're being paid to prevent such basic scam which includes verifying that the user is wearing the signature.

Therefore, @Hhampuz and @Royse777 must compensate the company for the past weeks or at least pay to developer (out of their own money) to create a bot to verify that users in the campaign do not modify them signature during the campaign period, any modification will be sent to the campaign manager.

[Plaguedeath]

Therefore, @Hhampuz and @Royse777 must compensate the company for the past weeks or at least pay to developer (out of their own money) to create a bot to verify that users in the campaign do not modify them signature during the campaign period, any modification will be sent to the campaign manager.

What?

There's no obligation for both of them to compensate the company for the past weeks, they're not have any intention to scam the company and Shan85 isn't their alt accounts. I also don't think they need to pay a developer to create a script or adds on to monitor their campaign participants.

I think if someone want to move to other campaign, he need to let know the campaign manager by notifying through the previous campaign thread, so the campaign manager will remove his name.

But this forum have a lot members, I believe with so many eyes, this case would have very low chance to happen again.

[rby]

Does s/he need to catch all the cheaters in this forum before he could be trusted, if catching one cheater is not enough.

What if I've done catch a cheater? will I get a positive feedback too? that's so easy and someone can taking advantage for asking non collateral loan because he already get a positive feedback which could be trusted.

If you do a reasonable catch like this, other than connecting newbies (zero merit) with alts in different bounties, you can get a positive feedback.

Therefore, @Hhampuz and @Royse777 must compensate the company for the past weeks

Maybe 50% compensation 
However, the cheater didn't just pocket such bucks, but s/he also made complete posts required per week. The problem is that he was constantly switching signature.  So he actually promoted the two companies but in a dubious way.
Maybe he wore the BetterCallRaul signature more than the Duelbits because Duelbits employs about 112 participants which would make it difficult for Hhampuz to notice, unlike BetterCallRaul which is less than 20 participants. 
This is also the reason he was bursted in Duelbits thread, wearing BetterCallRaul signature.

[T3PR00T]

Does s/he need to catch all the cheaters in this forum before he could be trusted, if catching one cheater is not enough.

What if I've done catch a cheater? will I get a positive feedback too? that's so easy and someone can taking advantage for asking non collateral loan because he already get a positive feedback which could be trusted.

If you do a reasonable catch like this, other than connecting newbies (zero merit) with alts in different bounties, you can get a positive feedback.

Although everyone has their own understanding of sending feedback, including/excluding anyone on their trust list but I think we all need to be more careful when leaving any feedback to anyone.

Just because one good work that happened out of no where, we should not start leaving feedback no matter that is from a DT or none DT member.

[Bureau]

It's very unfortunate but such an obvious case it falls to the campaign manager, they're being paid to prevent such basic scam which includes verifying that the user is wearing the signature.

Therefore, @Hhampuz and @Royse777 must compensate the company for the past weeks or at least pay to developer (out of their own money) to create a bot to verify that users in the campaign do not modify them signature during the campaign period, any modification will be sent to the campaign manager.

It is indeed an unfortunate incident! Compensating the company is their sole decision. To prevent the selection of such unethical members, they both need to re-evaluate their current onboarding process Both of them have a good reputation and big client base. Anymore incident like this one in the future will hamper their reputation as BM.