Decentralize Bitcointalk

[The Sceptical Chymist]

USA getting desperate with de dollarization or  Somewhere in the future china (2027-2030) will be the most dominant superpower would ban / sanction bitcoin.

Huh?

I'm pretty sure this has already been the topic of at least one thread before, and the bottom line is that it doesn't matter what you say or I say or if the majority of members think this forum ought to be centralized--we don't own it, period.  Nor is it as if you've got so much invested in bitcointalk that it would affect you a great deal if it were somehow decentralized.  You're still a Jr. Member after registering in 2019.

If feedback was listened to in the forum by administration and there was a chance that it was heard, listened to and potentially used to build upon the new forum software idea, I'd be much more motivated, though I am sure we can all agree that would be ignorant to assume.

Then, set up the demo forum, decentralized and with access to the general public, via the .com/.org domain. And present it to the public.

I believe that, if Bitcointalk does not migrate to this service, you will be able to sell it with some ease and make good money.

Oh that new forum software....I've been hearing about that since I became a member (I think).  I would be interested to see how a decentralized discussion forum worked, having never seen one before, but that being said I don't think OP made anything close to a coherent argument as to why bitcointalk should head in that direction.

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[BenCodie]

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Nonetheless we'll see what happens when the case study is done down the line.

I am genuinely interested to see how that case study turns out and find out more.  (Im not being sarcastic)

Just wanted to mention too that some truly decentralized forums already exist - Freenet's been around for over a decade or so, for example.  But it is still sucks big time to actually use.  and hardly anyone actually bothers with it anyway.  People just dont want taking responsibility for moderating stuff themselves.  And you need a ton more bandwidth and drive space compared to regular old client-server setups.  So Id definitely be curious to check out your ideas for a more user-friendly, lightweight version that doesnt dump so much on the end user.

It will take some time to write something up that is not just viable, but difficult to oppose or refute its viability as well. If I worked full or part time on the project, it'd may not take as long as it will, however my time barely permits me to do much outside of my commitments as is. I will do my best in any case as I know that it is possible.

I'm aware of freenet and other solutions however they are outdated solutions. We have web3 now, and with web3, there are endless technological advancements that came with it that can enable decentralization of some features and elements that previously would have been difficult to decentralize, or weren't viable to decentralize. I look forward to sharing the case study with you and others, thank you for prompting the idea....though do bear with me on time as like I said, this is not something that will take a few minures, it will take quite a few hours of focus (to say the least) to put something solid and actionable together.

[Synchronice]

Bitcointalk is a forum for a decentralize money bitcoin and other cryptos. I believe bitcointalk should be hosted on decentralize hosting and decentralize domain name or there should be a back up or mirror site for bitcointalk. We don't know the future they could ban bitcoin and also ban bitcointalk.org and other websites that supports bitcoin. USA getting desperate with de dollarization or  Somewhere in the future china (2027-2030) will be the most dominant superpower would ban / sanction bitcoin.

They talk about Bitcoin ETF getting confirmed and now you talk about bitcoin getting banned, so funny and strange

You guys have no idea what you want. Do any of you think that fully decentralized forum will be the best option and attract many people? Let's be frank, create decentralized forum yourself and try to deal with things that include uploading of illegal material, increased number of scammers, spammers, increased number of threats and so on. I believe that many people talk about decentralized bitcointalk because they want mixer signature campaigns to come back but if bitcointalk gets decentralized and loses many customers or face other problems, there will be no high paying mixer signature campaigns too.

Let's be frank again, do you guys feel that you are censored and can't post whatever you want? Does anyone ban you for different opinion? Will you get banned if you promote Ripple over Bitcoin or something like that? This forum is as free as possible. At least I have never felt limited here, so, please explain to me, why do you feel limited?

[Alpha Marine]

I'm pretty sure this has already been the topic of at least one thread before, and the bottom line is that it doesn't matter what you say or I say or if the majority of members think this forum ought to be centralized--we don't own it, period.  Nor is it as if you've got so much invested in bitcointalk that it would affect you a great deal if it were somehow decentralized.  You're still a Jr. Member after registering in 2019.

People just say whatever they feel like without thinking things through. The "de-dollaration" talk is one very exaggerated talk,  but I guess that's what propaganda is. OP really believes the dollar would be dead in 2027, that's in 4 years. Laughable.
That's by the way, what makes OP so sure that a decentralized website cannot face restrictions from the government.
Bitcoin is decentralized but faces heavy restrictions in many countries.

[BenCodie]

I'm pretty sure this has already been the topic of at least one thread before, and the bottom line is that it doesn't matter what you say or I say or if the majority of members think this forum ought to be centralized--we don't own it, period.  Nor is it as if you've got so much invested in bitcointalk that it would affect you a great deal if it were somehow decentralized.  You're still a Jr. Member after registering in 2019.

People just say whatever they feel like without thinking things through. The "de-dollaration" talk is one very exaggerated talk,  but I guess that's what propaganda is. OP really believes the dollar would be dead in 2027, that's in 4 years. Laughable.

The dollar as we know if is already losing dominance at a significant rate, and it is already inflating. Will the dollar be gone in 2027? Maybe not completely...though nations may just use currencies built by their nation or nations that they support more than the US. The blockchain and subsequent technology allows nations to set themselves free from the USD, whether it be with a newly created currency (like what we see with BRICS and the Digital Yuan) or an existing one (like El Salvador adopting Bitcoin).

Will the dollar be gone by 2027? Unlikely.
Will the state of the dollar be better or worse between now and 2027?
In my opinion, the state of it will be near abysmal, and definitely better than where it is at the moment...the supply will be exponentially higher, the world will be or have found alternative currencies for trade, and the people will probably doing what they can to stay out of fiat outside of the absolute need to use it wherever applicable.

I'm pretty sure this has already been the topic of at least one thread before, and the bottom line is that it doesn't matter what you say or I say or if the majority of members think this forum ought to be centralized--we don't own it, period.  Nor is it as if you've got so much invested in bitcointalk that it would affect you a great deal if it were somehow decentralized.  You're still a Jr. Member after registering in 2019.

That's by the way, what makes OP so sure that a decentralized website cannot face restrictions from the government.
Bitcoin is decentralized but faces heavy restrictions in many countries.

Decentralized websites can and will only be sanctioned if there is illegal activity happening on them, though that doesn't necessarily mean that they will be stopped if they are truly decentralized. Look into and take the case of TornadoCash as an example...and bear in mind that it is a crypto-based 'mixing' application, where addresses can be put on blacklists and there can be risks associated to blockchain labels when using it post-sanction...this isn't the same when we talk about a decentralized forum use-case.

[cryptosize]

Instead of only mention the decentralized hosting and decentralized domain name system, you should recommend which the web hosting and the DNS you refer to, I don't think that's possible. Mirror site won't solve, you're only play hide and seek until they discovered all the websites related to Bitcoin. The only way is run the site in darknet instead of clearnet, if Bitcoin is completely got banned in anywhere.

Somewhere in the future china (2027-2030) will be the most dominant superpower would ban / sanction bitcoin.

China completely ban Bitcoin since 2021, why Bitcoin and this forum wasn't get banned since 2021?

If it is not available yet. We can create it. Don't tell me it is impossible.

I'm not talking about China now. But talking about China when it will become the most dominant Superpower. China is bound to overtake USA somewhere in 2027 -2030.

WEF agrees with you:

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/01/india-will-overtake-the-us-economy-by-2030/

Maybe that's part of the agenda... maybe.

People just say whatever they feel like without thinking things through. The "de-dollaration" talk is one very exaggerated talk,  but I guess that's what propaganda is. OP really believes the dollar would be dead in 2027, that's in 4 years. Laughable.

Laughable why?

Who's going to laugh when China invades Taiwan?

Who's going to laugh when TSMC stops working, West will no longer be able to find high-end microchips and due to scarcity an iPhone suddenly costs $10000?

Don't you think there's a slight possibility that this will trigger hyperinflation that will absolutely melt every single fiat currency? (perfect opportunity to introduce CBDC as a "New Deal")

Before you dismiss this scenario, keep in mind nobody expected Russia to invade Ukraine. Nobody expected the EU to suffer 1.5 trillion € losses.

Scripta manent, feel free to screenshot me for future reference and I sincerely hope you're right and I'm wrong.