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May 22, 2023, 09:34:12 PM
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Time passes, and we have nothing to look forward to. We watch our lives pass, and the only thing we're looking forward to is the weekend or 20 days per year of paid time off. We're working a whole year, from 9 to 5 and sometimes even more, at someone else's business just to have an approximate of 20 days of vacation and two days off per week, with many of us having one or even none per week. Is it just me, or does this life sound completely depressing to me? Our ambitions are completely crushed by such a daily routine; our days off are mostly to get things done around the house and to rest. By the time that happens, the day has passed, and we have to go to work again.

At least where I'm at, having two days off per week is considered extremely lucky and privileged, especially if it's two days in a row. Personally, I only had one day off per week, and it honestly wasn't enough. On the one hand, I wanted to get things done around the house and rest, but on the other hand, I didn't want to stay inside doing practically nothing to enjoy myself. Thus, the single day off wasn't even close to being enough. Certainly, I'd be better off with two consecutive days off, but still, is that how you want your life to be for the next 10–20 years, or even more?

On the one hand, I don't want to complain; through the last few years of working, I've been on vacation four times, from 2020 to 2022, which isn't bad at all. On the other hand, I'd like to constantly travel and explore new destinations, the majority of which we'll never experience through this way of life.

Do you believe that there's a true way to escape this vicious cycle, or are we doomed to live like this forever? Telling me that my minor savings in Bitcoin are going to settle me for the rest of my life isn't going to cut it, because the majority of us won't ever have enough Bitcoin to retire.

Are you satisfied with this way of life, or would you prefer to live a different way? What would you like to change and how? Personally, I'm clueless and not satisfied with the idea of spending the rest of my life like this.

I'm an entrepreneur and I don't know what 9 to 5 means for almost 20 years! Of course I'm not just chilling all the time, I have to work and I work hard but I'm working remotely and I can choose when to work, for example I can start at 9 PM and go on until midnight or I can have a day off on Monday and then work on Sunday etc...  Cool
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May 22, 2023, 09:59:27 PM
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The decision relies on you. You are the one take charge of your own life so you have make decisions that you will not regret in the future. If you stick to your job, that would be a lot better since the more sources of income you have, the bigger profits you will gain and earn. But if you get out from your comfort zone and explore other life's opportunities, then go but always be responsible of the results of your own actions. After all, we don't want to live our life in vain, we need to seek for our satisfaction in life and if it means living our current job, then so be it.

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May 22, 2023, 11:10:41 PM
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only could stop once we become financial independent but generally for someone that works 9-5 that would never happen.
mainly because the wage aren't sufficient enough in building financial to be free from working, heck even for daily needs it hardly sufficient.
moreover, you'd be too busy that you can't do some business in your free time, quite literally you are putting so much focus on something that don't even give you good money.
the only way is you invested in stocks and cryptocurrency but then again will the returns will be that much? maybe starting new business from scratch and resigning is some other way need to be considered.

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May 23, 2023, 12:39:37 AM
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only could stop once we become financial independent but generally for someone that works 9-5 that would never happen.
mainly because the wage aren't sufficient enough in building financial to be free from working, heck even for daily needs it hardly sufficient.
moreover, you'd be too busy that you can't do some business in your free time, quite literally you are putting so much focus on something that don't even give you good money.
the only way is you invested in stocks and cryptocurrency but then again will the returns will be that much? maybe starting new business from scratch and resigning is some other way need to be considered.

I actually agree with you it is hard to start our own business and we actually need capital and lot of thing including knowledge. Resigned from 9-5 job is risky too if we don't have money.

Sometimes Im just like OP but the difference is Im not work 9-5 but full time crypto but the hurt truth is the salary sometimes is not enough to do enjoy life

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May 23, 2023, 03:55:06 AM
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Are you satisfied with this way of life, or would you prefer to live a different way? What would you like to change and how? Personally, I'm clueless and not satisfied with the idea of spending the rest of my life like this.
Of course, I'm not quite satisfied with my life now, but what to do besides keep living it and design better finances like investing in Bitcoin for the future can be better, but of course, it takes a long time and can be more than 5 years or even 10 years and before what is targeted is achieved to be able to stop all these boring routines, it is much better to keep working and being grateful with all these routines.

My method is to continue to invest and increase income so that in the next few years I can live a calmer life, sacrifice the present time for future life, and not try to enjoy life to excess by spending money beyond the budget even though it will damage the financial plans that have been made.

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Here's the unvarnished truth. Life isn't a vibrant parade of magical creatures beneath candy-colored rainbows; it's more like a strategic battle of wits against the clock and our inevitable fate. The silver lining? The next move is yours!

Have your ears been graced with the chant of the FIRE tribe? It's a shorthand for "Financial Independence, Retire Early". The essence? To save and invest with Spartan-like discipline - picture shaving off a whopping 50% to 75% of your income - all to bask in the golden years while still spry and young.

Now, Bitcoin won't magically transform you into a midnight millionaire, but it's a vital cog in the machinery of a diversified investment strategy. Consider it a culinary expedition - a pinch of side business, a heaping of stocks, a slice of real estate, and a drizzle of Bitcoin. After all, wasn't it the slow-and-steady tortoise who nabbed the laurels, not the hasty hare?

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May 23, 2023, 06:26:08 AM
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It's easier to dream for a lifestyle where you have all the time to go out and come back home whenever you feel like or decide to travel around the world if you can afford it, but you got to be sure that this won't affect your source of income, if you are working under someone or company you can't do this because you will be replaced and you will become jobless, make sure you are making money yourself without working for any company first, your source of income must be flourishing, that's when you will be able to live your life the way you wanted.

The main reason why men are not living the dream is because of work and making money, not until you find a way to work and make money by yourself without working for anyone, you won't be able to do as you like, jobs sometimes feel like a prison, since men has responsibility, this will tie them to the job till their old days.

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May 23, 2023, 08:16:12 AM
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The main reason why men are not living the dream is because of work and making money, not until you find a way to work and make money by yourself without working for anyone, you won't be able to do as you like, jobs sometimes feel like a prison, since men has responsibility, this will tie them to the job till their old days.

You made a valid point mate, but by making money by yourself doesn't mean you should quit your job and start trying to become an entrepreneur or self employed individual, business owner etc, you'll fail if you don't have the qualities of a good entrepreneur. You can still be working your job, get double shifts or side hustle then save the extra money you're making and start planning your escape.

Investing is the only way that you can make money yourself, without an experiment. You don't need much experience to buy Bitcoin or other valuable assets and hold. To start a business, you'll need experience or you'll fail, increasing your income and investing is better.

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May 23, 2023, 08:40:56 AM
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Two days off a week is really something that good or better and the best thing is that you've been being paid or having that fixed monthly income if you do really work on government agencies, but how about into those
Yes It's really fun for them and if you know much more, the income they get is always not enough because of the impact of the loans they take out at the bank. The private sector in finance and some other fields also have something in common and they get two days off a week, except for overtime when the big day is approaching and they will work half day.

private sectors? For sure it would really be a no work no pay kind of scheme which it isnt really that shocking anymore. It turns out that you would really be needing to work in order to get that maximum pay or something you wouldnt really be liking with those deductions which is something that it is really that we do like. As for having a 9-5 or 8-5 job most commonly on which it isnt really that shocking anymore.
We dont have any choice but to deal with it because if we dont then for sure lots of things would be affected. You would really be a slave for the rest of your life until you would retire.
This is why some people would really be having reconsideration on finding up ways on breaking up this chain and this is via investment and other dealings which could potentially give you other
source of income.
That's just talking about opportunities and what I see they enjoy the job even though the salary they get is standard and never more. This kind of work is more dominated by people aged over 40 and even though there are also a few percent of young people now, what are some reasons why they choose this kind of work?

1. It is difficult to find other job opportunities and this is the most sought-after job in the area where I live.
2. Salaries and benefits have been arranged and make them no longer have to think about entering old age.
3. Working in a government agency can guarantee their life even if it doesn't give them wealth.

Of course when they choose this kind of job, the system will regulate work patterns and they will work every day according to their duties and if asked why they have to choose this job because other sectors of the jobs available are not much better than working in the government. But since the last decade this job has become increasingly difficult and there are many requirements that you must meet when applying for work, starting from tests and other conditions so that we are accepted.

For me it has always been not very interesting to work with a system like this, because we cannot manage work time according to our own system, so we prefer to work in the entrepreneurial sector with simple steps and start from small things, even though at this time has not made me a rich man, at least I manage my own time, working hours and employees.

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Just do the right kind of works, the ones you enjoy & love no matter the pay and you wouldn't feel that way anymore. Doing such works would be like entrainment or having fun that you may never need a pay time off except for relaxation or rest. Weekend and night rest should be enough time for proper rest.


If you love and enjoy your job you will kind of be addicted to it to such an extent of suffering withdrawal symptoms when you stop working for some days.


 

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This norm that we currently have is truly difficult for most of the people but there's just no other choice for most since we all need to survive. Yes, you can choose to start your own businesses or try anything that generates money while you sleep but does everyone even have the required time and money to dedicate on that? Especially those that only have minimum wages and are even breadwinners. Most say that you have to take a risk if you want to succeed which isn't wrong by the way. The only problem is that if it isn't just your well-being that you are risking but also the well-being of the people relying on you. And even if it's just you, not everyone really succeeds. Some run out money, hope, faith and even time.

But whichever the case, everything still depends on the perspective and attitude of a person towards life itself. That is why there are people who achieve their dreams and people who only manages to survive.
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May 23, 2023, 11:03:43 AM
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only could stop once we become financial independent but generally for someone that works 9-5 that would never happen.
mainly because the wage aren't sufficient enough in building financial to be free from working, heck even for daily needs it hardly sufficient.
moreover, you'd be too busy that you can't do some business in your free time, quite literally you are putting so much focus on something that don't even give you good money.
the only way is you invested in stocks and cryptocurrency but then again will the returns will be that much? maybe starting new business from scratch and resigning is some other way need to be considered.

I actually agree with you it is hard to start our own business and we actually need capital and lot of thing including knowledge. Resigned from 9-5 job is risky too if we don't have money.

Sometimes Im just like OP but the difference is Im not work 9-5 but full time crypto but the hurt truth is the salary sometimes is not enough to do enjoy life

that is why having a stable job and having stable income is really good with that kind of situation because there are really times that it is not good profit in cryptocurrency that is why others tend to have another source of income but again there are times that is good that can last you few months or years but if you do have family to feed then having a stable jobs is best
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May 23, 2023, 01:45:44 PM
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It seems difficult to get out of the routine that you have been doing for years because when you get out of that routine, it means you have to leave the job that has supported your life. Even though we seem to hate the job, we have to admit that it is the job that has provided the greatest support in our lives.

But I think there is a way out of that circle of routine because you already know crypto and you can use it as your retirement later. If you've invested in Bitcoin (I'm sure you have) as well as altcoins, you can expect to make big profits during altcoin seasons and bull runs. You just save the profit and use it when you retire and keep working as usual until your retirement comes.

But if you think that the profits you can make later in the altcoin season and bull run could provide more money than your salary for years, you can apply for early retirement and enjoy the benefits of your crypto.

Satisfied or dissatisfied, like it or not, this is a choice we make and we have another choice, which is to invest in crypto. And I suggest you stay optimistic about having more Bitcoin for your retirement later. You will surely smile enjoying retirement later by having Bitcoin in your hands.

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Many people feel imprisoned in the cycle of working for a job and having little time for personal fulfillment or following their hobbies. It is critical to build a growth and change-oriented attitude. Be open to new chances, pursue personal improvement, and never stop learning. Life is a journey, and you can make it more full and enjoyable by being adaptive and open-minded. There is no generic answer, making incremental changes to align your life with your beliefs and pursue your hobbies can lead to a more fulfilling and purposeful living.
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Another thing that people don't like working in 9-5 work could also be the culture of the workplace. Office politics sucks a lot for the many although I would hella run if I experienced a single office politics. It's worse than just ending up in a dead-end job.
Yeah office politics sucks, there's always a crab mentality or forcing you to play dirty, working on someone company will not make you develop if you keep thinking about other people's opinion. If you're different from them, you will get bullied and discrimination, just because you're good and put more dedication than them.

But become a businessman has similar risk too, it's not office politics, but there are more risks to make your business bankrupt.

A freelancer is more comfortable if you want to avoid external problem and your mental health would be healthier.

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It's not how life should be lived. However, it is due to the way the system has been set up that society may continue to develop and move in a dynamic manner. When I think about it the way you do, I also get sad and depressed, but what makes me happy is returning every day to my family and the sincere and loving friends I have in my life.
As a person who managed to get out of that life before, I can tell you that this side is not that great. I mean we are talking about a situation where you need to constantly work and that means that when you have your own business, every hour is a working hour. This is not a problem if you are a wealthy person and that means you could keep grinding as easily as you want.

However, if you end up with some trouble and not really make that much, like lets say you make as much money as a salary you could earn, then it would be terrible. I am making nearly twice as much as a salary so I am happy, but in no means I am rich, I am just doing alright, I can't really go out and like do whatever I want, I still have so many things I need and can't even afford them. So all in all, if you are spending all your life and still not making enough money, then 9-5 could be better for some people.

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May 23, 2023, 04:04:06 PM
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well not all workers get a good day off. If you hear someone has up to two days off a week that I think it's a decent enough place to work because in my area they don't even allow Sundays off. some workers actually only get days off when they are sick, they will not get money when they are not working, there are no days off, if a day off is the same as no money. this looks annoying i prefer to open my own business and looking for additional in crypto investment.

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I dislike working as officer in some location that I wouldn't normally go. I think this life creates unhappy people. I always treated Bitcoin as a way to leave this kind of life. My main purpose in life was always to liberate myself from full time work as soon as possible. Now I spent 6 years of my life working. When I turn and look back I see that only time I was bit happy was covid days when I was paid without working. I learned importance of generating money in life so I can only do things that I always wanted to. Only tiny minority hits this goal. I wish I was part of them.
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Do you believe that there's a true way to escape this vicious cycle, or are we doomed to live like this forever? Telling me that my minor savings in Bitcoin are going to settle me for the rest of my life isn't going to cut it, because the majority of us won't ever have enough Bitcoin to retire.
Dear Op, it looks like, you have been motivated by Andrew Tate's talks, HAHA. as i have seen some videos of him in which he talks about Matrix. Means, the same as your post. , people are stuck in this life and in daily work, living the same life every day. Some of them, Like you, got tired of it but i have seen only a few who really enjoy this life. As, according to my vision, i think we should not think that we are stuck in the matrix but instead we are just burdened up with so much work and less rest has encouraged us to make some bold moves that we don't want. Such as resigning from that work.
Are you satisfied with this way of life, or would you prefer to live a different way? What would you like to change and how? Personally, I'm clueless and not satisfied with the idea of spending the rest of my life like this.
No, i am not satisfied with this type of life but i have not in any job which goes from 9 to 5. But i have seen 98% of people in my surrounding, who are working 9 to 5 and earning not so much money that they can not fulfill their own wishes. Which really makes me think to avoid such a lifestyle. So, i find a way of online earning through freelancing, but you know what, that is way more worse than a traditional job.

Because you have to work day and night to get clients and once you get clients you have to win their trust by working hard and with honesty. This also makes me furious because i have to work way harder in freelancing. But there are its own benefits too, like if i want to take a break from it, all i have to do is save some money and can ignore all of my clients. If you do not like the way you are living then instead of asking us you must ask yourself that which type of life you want. Because in my thoughts, you must not be in favor of getting numerous leaves and less work with more money. And we all know that is so fictional (haha). So all i can say, buckle up and work hard to achieve something. or you can make some new innovation and collect funds on it and can become an entrepreneur.

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May 23, 2023, 06:19:07 PM
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If I interpret the circle that you mentioned, it is someone's ambition when they see the market is crashing but they don't have enough funds and are responsible for entering. the alternative is to borrow again in the hope of covering the lost investment value due to cut losses.

Very relatable and real. I admit Investments like Bitcoin can be another option but always involve risks and the results cannot be predicted with certainty. I also feel that even though the percentage is small until now, with uncertain market conditions, my investment estimate has decreased, especially if circumstances force me to leave the market with a loss percentage of almost 30%. This is the trade trip and patience is required here.

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