Beterbiev Vs Smith January 13 SATURDAY IBF / WBC / WBO LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT Title

[Jating]

I do agree but it's boxing politics that really prevented us seeing big names like Bivol vs Beterbiev. Callum Smith might be a decent fighter, but he could still be the next victim of Beterbiev's power. But in any case, if this is a cherry pick fight, then so be it. However, if he wins here, I do hope that Top Rank will have to schedule their man Beterbiev vs Bivol.

There's no way that they can avoid each other, they are the only 2 champions in this division. And with the way fighters are reaching in this generation, they are going at a unification like Inoue, Crawford and Canelo at 168 lbs.

It's not just boxing politics but also global politics. The WBC banned Russian athletes from competing for their title. They have stated that Bivol is not eligible to fight for their belt, although for some reason Beterbiev is still allowed. Other sanctioning organizations have implemented a similarly stupid rule. https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/3/1/22956803/wbc-wbo-ibf-refuse-certify-title-fights-russian-belarusian-fighters-boxing-news-2022

Now that Saudia Arabia seems willing to offer a lot of money to make it happen, perhaps the organizations will do what's best for the sport even if they do it for entirely selfish reasons.

The boxing scenario is very different in this generation, in the past, they had a saying to be the best you have to beat the best, so they united titles, and promoters were more than willing to fit the best in their respective divisions, which is why in the past there are lineal champions.

But now we have so many champions and these are weak champions because their promotions see to it that they are picking easy opponents, look at Ryan Garcia, his Golden Boy promotions were cherry-picking fights but once he fought a capable champion, he was beaten easily.
These promoters and organizations need to see that they have to pair the best against the best.
It's good that we have Saudi promotions that are willing to spend a lot of money just to see big fights happen that other promoters don't want to promote.

Thanks for bringing this up, as lately I have been seeing a lot of great boxing fights specially in Tiktok when the great 4 kings are fighting against each other, Leonard, Hearns, Hagler and Duran. And I'm thinking this kind of great fights right now is not happening because of what we call boxing politics and then promoters protecting their boxers and wanted to be undefeated and then call them GOAT, like Floyd.

Maybe the oil rich country of Saudi can change that, with the money that they can offer this promoters, maybe they will think hard and discuss everything and have their best boxers fighting against each other as their could be offer that they can't refused from the Middle East.

[Kemarit]

I do agree but it's boxing politics that really prevented us seeing big names like Bivol vs Beterbiev. Callum Smith might be a decent fighter, but he could still be the next victim of Beterbiev's power. But in any case, if this is a cherry pick fight, then so be it. However, if he wins here, I do hope that Top Rank will have to schedule their man Beterbiev vs Bivol.

There's no way that they can avoid each other, they are the only 2 champions in this division. And with the way fighters are reaching in this generation, they are going at a unification like Inoue, Crawford and Canelo at 168 lbs.

It's not just boxing politics but also global politics. The WBC banned Russian athletes from competing for their title. They have stated that Bivol is not eligible to fight for their belt, although for some reason Beterbiev is still allowed. Other sanctioning organizations have implemented a similarly stupid rule. https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/3/1/22956803/wbc-wbo-ibf-refuse-certify-title-fights-russian-belarusian-fighters-boxing-news-2022

Now that Saudia Arabia seems willing to offer a lot of money to make it happen, perhaps the organizations will do what's best for the sport even if they do it for entirely selfish reasons.

And with that, maybe we can say that it's good that Saudi Arabia has entered the picture in the last couple of years and hosting fights early on and then they going bolder and bolder with that big money they have.

Governing bodies have no choice then, and who will deny if the oil money is going to roll into our direction. It used to be football with billions of sponsorship and player options. Now they turn into boxing so it's good for us in the next couple of years and maybe fights that we thought can't be made can easily be deal with their money in between.

[Baofeng]

Here is the official weight in guys,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tse3S-fmhO0

Both make the weight, however, Hearn said that

Eddie Hearn didn’t accuse Artur Beterbiev of using performance-enhancing drugs Thursday.

Callum Smith’s promoter made it perfectly clear, however, that his company, Matchroom Boxing, wants more information related to Voluntary Anti-Doping Association tests that revealed in mid-December that Beterbiev had elevated levels of HGH and testosterone in his blood and urine.

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-wants-more-info-about-atypical-findings-beterbievs-vada-tests-fight-with-smith-go-on--180651

So we will have to fight it out what kind of drugs have been found on Beterbiev system, also not accusing him, but at this age, your testosterone is declining and to be that strong and competitive like what Beterbiev is showing there could be some questions, just saying.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Beterbiev continues to destroy every opponent that steps into the ring with him. Age and inactivity didn't matter much because he is still a beast. Smith showed some improvement from when he fought Canelo but he is still incapable of using his size to his advantage. He could've been more successful by boxing from a distance.

With this mandatory out of the way, it is time to make the undisputed fight against Bivol. It will be an interesting clash of styles. Bivol is a much more skillful fighter whose style might frustrate Beterbiev but he lacks the power to keep Beterbiev from coming forward. Every time Beterbiev lands he does damage, he can even hurt you with a jab. For Bivol it will be difficult to avoid that freight train coming towards him for twelve rounds.

[robelneo]

Beterbiev continues to destroy every opponent that steps into the ring with him. Age and inactivity didn't matter much because he is still a beast. Smith showed some improvement from when he fought Canelo but he is still incapable of using his size to his advantage. He could've been more successful by boxing from a distance.

With this mandatory out of the way, it is time to make the undisputed fight against Bivol. It will be an interesting clash of styles. Bivol is a much more skillful fighter whose style might frustrate Beterbiev but he lacks the power to keep Beterbiev from coming forward. Every time Beterbiev lands he does damage, he can even hurt you with a jab. For Bivol it will be difficult to avoid that freight train coming towards him for twelve rounds.

It was Beterbiev throughout the fight, and there was nothing that Smith could do to stop Beterbiev I just knew it was a matter of time, and the time came in the seventh round, Callum wanted to continue but Callum's corner, and the doctor wanted the fight ended, we all agree that the fight should be ended Callum although can still keep up Beterbiev is such a strong finisher, there's no way Callum can defend the barrage of punches.

All talks now should be about the unification of the light heavyweight between Beterbiev and Bivol, all fighters in the light heavyweight division will not have a chance against these two fighters so negotiation should start now.

[Baofeng]

Beterbiev continues to destroy every opponent that steps into the ring with him. Age and inactivity didn't matter much because he is still a beast. Smith showed some improvement from when he fought Canelo but he is still incapable of using his size to his advantage. He could've been more successful by boxing from a distance.

With this mandatory out of the way, it is time to make the undisputed fight against Bivol. It will be an interesting clash of styles. Bivol is a much more skillful fighter whose style might frustrate Beterbiev but he lacks the power to keep Beterbiev from coming forward. Every time Beterbiev lands he does damage, he can even hurt you with a jab. For Bivol it will be difficult to avoid that freight train coming towards him for twelve rounds.

It was Beterbiev throughout the fight, and there was nothing that Smith could do to stop Beterbiev I just knew it was a matter of time, and the time came in the seventh round, Callum wanted to continue but Callum's corner, and the doctor wanted the fight ended, we all agree that the fight should be ended Callum although can still keep up Beterbiev is such a strong finisher, there's no way Callum can defend the barrage of punches.

Less than 10 rounds again for Arthur, another one side beating. I thought that Smith could give him trouble, but it was just another dominant win by Beterbiev and there's nothing that Smith can do. And his trainer knew that Callum is going to take more damages if they continue to fight.

All talks now should be about the unification of the light heavyweight between Beterbiev and Bivol, all fighters in the light heavyweight division will not have a chance against these two fighters so negotiation should start now.

Hopefully, we will see this fight. Another one of those unification and this is to be one of the biggest fight this year if we can get the two in the ring together. Both undefeated, but I think Beterbiev could be the slight favorite here. So let's see how both camp are going to negotiate, might be tough. But as fans, this needs to be done this year.

[coin-investor]

Here's the highlight of the fight

Artur Beterbiebv Crushes Callum Smith at Home | FIGHT HIGHLIGHTS

It was mauling from start to finish, Beterbiev kept his 100% knock-out ratio the road only led to a title unification against Bivol all the other fight coming for Beterbiev if its not Bivol will be a boring fight, Beterbiev is not getting younger he should chase for a legacy fight not another cherry-picked fight like this.
Not because they are both Russian and they should not fight, more that they fight each other because whoever wins will be for the glory of Russia, so let's see if they are going to materialize the fight.

[bisdak40]

All talks now should be about the unification of the light heavyweight between Beterbiev and Bivol, all fighters in the light heavyweight division will not have a chance against these two fighters so negotiation should start now.

Yeah, they should negotiate as soon as possible as Beterbiev is not getting younger anymore, in fact he will be turning 39 this coming January 21, we all knew that age is really a factor in boxing.

Back to the Callum Smith mauling, just wow, Beterbiev is really a heavy-handed fighter that when his punch touches his opponent, they are hurt and damaged.

[Saisher]

Beterbiev is getting better he is going 39 but there's no decline in his power and speed Beterbiev and Bivol hurdled their respective opponent just this month, so there should be no hindrance on why they should not fight, I hate to see this becoming another Spence - Crawford with both fighters having a lot of allegation each other before they clash, I hope the Saudi promoters will see how good if these fighters will collide inside the ring and so they have to make it happen.

[Jating]

Here's the highlight of the fight

Artur Beterbiebv Crushes Callum Smith at Home | FIGHT HIGHLIGHTS

It was mauling from start to finish, Beterbiev kept his 100% knock-out ratio the road only led to a title unification against Bivol all the other fight coming for Beterbiev if its not Bivol will be a boring fight, Beterbiev is not getting younger he should chase for a legacy fight not another cherry-picked fight like this.
Not because they are both Russian and they should not fight, more that they fight each other because whoever wins will be for the glory of Russia, so let's see if they are going to materialize the fight.

I thought that Beterbiev will start slow just like in the Yarde fight, but this time, he doesn't want to give his opponent a feeling that they have in the control of the fight and so he started early and did not give Callum Smith any breathing room as he just smothered him.

That jab really do the damage early and then body shots that took the toll on Smith.

It was a mismatch to be honest, I'm not sure if Smith doesn't have the power or just Beterbiev chin is really very hard to crack. It's time for Bivol fight, unification at LHW and it's going to be a great fight.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

All talks now should be about the unification of the light heavyweight between Beterbiev and Bivol, all fighters in the light heavyweight division will not have a chance against these two fighters so negotiation should start now.

Yeah, they should negotiate as soon as possible as Beterbiev is not getting younger anymore, in fact he will be turning 39 this coming January 21, we all knew that age is really a factor in boxing.

And probably that's why he could be talking HGH because at his age, it's very difficult to maintain that kind of body and then power. Anyhow, we will see what if the doping body will make public the result of the drug testing or at least what kind of substance they found on Beterbiev.

Back to the Callum Smith mauling, just wow, Beterbiev is really a heavy-handed fighter that when his punch touches his opponent, they are hurt and damaged.

He was known to overpower his opponent, so this fight is really on Beterbiev as Smith is like 4:1 underdog and we clearly see how sports bookies put him at that odds. Beterbiev almost clean up this division already and there's only one fighter to go and face next and that is Bivol.

[Kemarit]

Beterbiev continues to destroy every opponent that steps into the ring with him. Age and inactivity didn't matter much because he is still a beast. Smith showed some improvement from when he fought Canelo but he is still incapable of using his size to his advantage. He could've been more successful by boxing from a distance.

He fought the fight that Beterbiev wanted, he goes toe to toe with the champion and even if he hit Beterbiev with that left hook of his, it didn't put any effect on Beterbiev and he just keeps on coming and the accumulation of damages to Callum was too much.

With this mandatory out of the way, it is time to make the undisputed fight against Bivol. It will be an interesting clash of styles. Bivol is a much more skillful fighter whose style might frustrate Beterbiev but he lacks the power to keep Beterbiev from coming forward. Every time Beterbiev lands he does damage, he can even hurt you with a jab. For Bivol it will be difficult to avoid that freight train coming towards him for twelve rounds.

Yep, it's time for both of them to face for the undisputed, there have been talks for this to happen already and now that Canelo doesn't want a rematch with Bivol, the only fight that make sense for him is to fight Beterbiev. Maybe the volume might keep Beterbiev from coming forward, but for sure this is a great fight. Perhaps we can compare it to Miguel Cotto vs Antonio Margarito wherein Margarito was a come forward fighter and then Cotto defending himself by picking up shots. Bivol should need to make this fight in the middle to give him more room to throw his punches.

[coin-investor]

Yep, it's time for both of them to face for the undisputed, there have been talks for this to happen already and now that Canelo doesn't want a rematch with Bivol, the only fight that make sense for him is to fight Beterbiev. Maybe the volume might keep Beterbiev from coming forward, but for sure this is a great fight. Perhaps we can compare it to Miguel Cotto vs Antonio Margarito wherein Margarito was a come forward fighter and then Cotto defending himself by picking up shots. Bivol should need to make this fight in the middle to give him more room to throw his punches.

That would be after Ramadan Beterbiev will take a break during Ramadan and he will resume talks after Ramadan, his promoter Bob Arum assures that they can get into the fight 3 months after Ramadan and possibly in Saudi Arabia, we have seen a lot of great rivalries for the undisputed title but talks are too slow, Arum was the manager of Crawford and he did not materialize a deal against Spence then.
I hope this time he will get the Beterbiev - Bivol to materialize

"Ramadan is coming. Ramadan ends some time in the middle of April so about three months after the end of Ramadan we'll be ready to fight Bivol, probably in Riyadh," Arum said.

Artur Beterbiev wants undisputed light-heavyweight championship fight with Dmitry Bivol next: 'I need a fourth belt!'
Beterbiev record of 20 fights, 20 wins, 20 knockouts is outstanding but even if he retires with a perfect record there will be a blemish in his record because there is one in standing in his era that could possibly beat him and yet they failed to face in the ring.

The boxing community is hoping that 2024 is the year they will finally meet in the ring and resolve once and for all who is the undisputed heavyweight and possibly greatest Light heavyweight in modern generation.

[TravelMug]

Ok so we will just have to wait for this fight, perhaps after Ramadan, they can talk and sit down and hopefully Bob Arum can find a way to make this fight happen in Saudi Arabia as this seems to be the place for big fights as I agree that with the financial backings of one of the world richest nation, everyone will obviously sit down and take about the money involved and how much this boxers can earn for their potential unification fight. So it's Beterbiev's power against Bivol's head movement and volume and ring IQ. He had beaten one of the best boxer in our generation in Canelo so for sure he is very much confident that he can defeat the power of Beterbiev. But I think if this fight goes, Beterbiev might be the slight favorite.

[Kemarit]

And this is what Beterbiev says, a potential fight with Bivol,

“He talk always like this,” Beterbiev said.  “Last five years, or four years, he tell everyone that he gonna fight next fight with me. Now he says—I have fight, [in the] next two weeks, and he says he already signed with me a contract. How can he sign a contract with me? Because I have another fight. He’s a real boxer you know.

“It’s always like this, with boxers,” Beterbiev quipped.

https://www.boxingscene.com/beterbiev-taunts-bivol-last-five-years-hes-telling-everyone-he-gonna-fight-me-next--180757

So this is already creating a lot of buzz as we can say that he is hyping this fight already or he is really interested on a unification fight. And yes he could be provoking Bivol with this statement and I think the feeling is mutual with Bivol and again as I have said in another thread, they can set aside their geo-political and boxing politics aside when big money is on the line and everyone taking a slice on that big pie that the Saudi's are offering in the boxing world.