Bitcoin on The Island of Bali, Indonesia

[macson]

Indeed, Bali is a tourist attraction, renown for it natural beauty, stunning beaches, rich cultural heritage and friendly people. I have never visited but would love to go there whenever I get the opportunity to experience its wonders. It is unfotunate that Bitcoin is not accepted there as method payment. However. I would encourage you to unite and amplify your voices on social media, urging government officials to recognize advantages of embracing Bitcoin as payment system and consider regulating it in your country.

when you have the opportunity to visit bali then go there immediately, surely you won't regret it ^{(because i've been on vacation there)}

i agree with the opinion of some members that bitcoin is not recognized as a payment method in almost all countries in the world (not only on the island of Bali) so there is no need to be surprised by news like this, as a tourist, everyone must respect all kinds of rules that are currently applied and in this case is the prohibition to use bitcoin as a means of payment while in Bali.  breaking the rules that apply in an area will only make it difficult for yourself ^{(i also support residents there taking advantage of social media urging their government to revoke the rules)}

[Bushdark]

If I were to visit Bali, it would be because it has a lot of wonderful things to offer. I'm referring to the beaches, the temples, and other natural and man-made wonders. It wouldn't be because it accepts Bitcoin. So I guess I wouldn't mind if the province isn't Bitcoin friendly.

But supposing Indonesia accepts Bitcoin as payment, what can a lowly governor do? He will have no other choice but to abide with the law. It's just unfortunate that the country doesn't accept Bitcoin as a currency. What's even more unfortunate was its declaration as haram by the country's Islamic council.

If they have such leaders then the governments will never grow up to their potential, Bali is an wonderful place and there are many foreigners come there to explore the place especially from Europe so accepting crypto currency is actually going to be beneficial for them right but instead they are doing opposite and advising not to use it so who is going to lose, which economy is going down if they are not giving space for what the people are there for.

It is very unfortunate to see that the governor does not want to to trade with Bitcoin/cryptocurrency. This is absurd and I know that even his policies will not make people to stop trading with Bitcoin in the state. They can hide and run Bitcoin transactions without even the government knowing. All those people that hate Bitcoin would soon realize what they are missing and how wealthy Bitcoin could make them be. He is not different from some of the billionaires that are never a fan of Bitcoin and keep castigating the effect to Bitcoin to the society.

[lalabotax]

I don't know whether you have been to Bali or not but Bali is one of the world's tourist destinations, unfortunately Bali still has a governor who is not friendly to bitcoins and cryptocurrencies so he informs every tourist not to use bitcoins as payment. Previously, the governor of Bali (his name is Wayan Koster) had gone viral because he refused to allow the Israeli national team to play in the U20 World Cup, previously Indonesia was chosen as the host.

with rules like this, do you still want to go to bali?

I live in Indonesia and I really understand why this governor said and stated this.
This is because of the regulation and laws in my country regarding Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.
Crypto, including Bitcoin is LEGAL as a comodity asset, but NOT LEGAL as a currency for payment method.
So, he is not wrong because as a governor, he carries out the orders and regulations of the law.
And I don't think this will dampen the desire to go there. There are still many ways to pay there and we are also welcomed everyone to visit Bali and all tourism objects in the country, as long as following the rule and regulations of the country. And I am also sure that other countries also have different rules and regulations about something else, and we must obey whatever it is.

[nurilham]

unfortunately Bali still has a governor who is not friendly to bitcoins and cryptocurrencies so he informs every tourist not to use bitcoins as payment.

Do you know if Bitcoin is illegal to use as a payment tool in Indonesia? BTC and altcoins are legal for investment purposes only.
The governor has done the right way, he reminds every tourist to avoid using Bitcoin for payment purposes. It breaks the law, tourists can get into trouble if they use BTC or altcoins for payment tools.

You need to take a look at this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_cryptocurrency_by_country_or_territory



There is an alternative for this case, why don't convert BTC to rupiah on local exchanges? We have Tokocrypto and Indodax that can give that service.

with rules like this, do you still want to go to bali?

There is no problem even if Bali bans BTC/altcoins. Even before we are familiar with BTC or crypto, tourists come to Bali and pay anything in Rupiah. There are money exchange services, then we may have crypto exchange services in public spaces as well. So, it is just a minor issue, it won't bring a serious impact.

[jossiel]

There is nothing people can do if someone who's a high official is against the usage of bitcoin and imposes a law or encourages its citizens and tourists to avoid using it.

While talking about the connection and ties of Indonesia and Israel, AFAIK, there's really a conflict between the two as Indonesia don't recognize Israel for its sovereignty.

[omgitsmehehe]

Yeah, most of the Asia countries have difficulty in transaction in crypto and only value their own means of payment, many clients I've dealt with never wanted to do business with me because I mentioned crypto, not because they don't like crypto but they find it hard and difficult to get themselves verified on crypto platform and they suffer a lot of strict restrictions. Your governor has his own reasons to not allow crypto payments to be accepted and I would ask why.
On the other hand, if the restrictions on crypto payment would be the reasons why someone can't come over to your country for vacation, what means of payment is suitable for foreigners, can you guys accept Gift Cards?, because that is the only way an outsider can exchange payment when on vacation I guess.

[TelolettOm]

There is nothing people can do if someone who's a high official is against the usage of bitcoin and imposes a law or encourages its citizens and tourists to avoid using it.

The governor of Bali was just doing his job. It is his responsibility to announce that warning to the whole people in Bali, both the citizen and tourists. Well, Indonesian law is against the use of Bitcoin as a payment tool. The governor of Bali can't do anything, he only delivered what the laws state. Since Bali is a part of Indonesia, they must obey the laws as well.

While talking about the connection and ties of Indonesia and Israel, AFAIK, there's really a conflict between the two as Indonesia don't recognize Israel for its sovereignty.

Israel is a colonialist. Indonesia is always against a country that invades another country. Israel steals the land of Palestine, that's why Indonesia never recognizes its sovereignty.

[Uruhara]

Bali is a beautiful tourism place that deserves to be a vacation destination for anyone from all over the world. so what does this have to do with the ban on the use of bitcoin as a means of payment there which is in accordance with regulations in the country of Indonesia. People go to Bali for vacation not to use bitcoin as a means of payment. so this won't be any problem.

So I don't think anyone will have a problem with this. because even in other beautiful tourism places there are many who do not legalize bitcoin as a legal tender. except in El Salvador, which has legalized bitcoin as a means of payment there.

but I heard from several cross-country acquaintances. that many do not know that Bali is only one province in Indonesia. many of them think that Bali is a country. so it's normal if someone doesn't know that all regulations in Bali are of course the same as Indonesian regulations because Bali is one of the regions in Indonesia.

[Arenga pinnata]

Tourists can still use Bitcoin in Bali. but it's not for direct payment transactions. but tourists can also exchange their Bitcoin first at a Bitcoin ATM machine which has also been on the island of Bali, Indonesia since 2014.

Namely at the Address:
✓(1)Bitcoin ATM in Kuta, Bali – Bitcoin.co.id Information Center, Legian Kaja Street, No. 455 Kuta, Bali Indonesia
✓(2)Bitcoin ATM in Ubud – Hubud, Jalan Monkey Forest 88X, Ubud Gianyar Bali 80571, Indonesia
( Sourch: https://www.finansialku.com/apakah-ada-mesin-atm-bitcoin-di-indonesia/ )

Use the Bitcoin ATM Machine and have fun on the island of Bali.

[crypticj]

Just go to Thailand haha.

Thailand is very friendly to crypto and even allows people to do crypto business and do crypto meetings. And it's a great decision because it does not affect the government much but makes people happy and richer.

[Uruhara]

Tourists can still use Bitcoin in Bali. but it's not for direct payment transactions. but tourists can also exchange their Bitcoin first at a Bitcoin ATM machine which has also been on the island of Bali, Indonesia since 2014.

Namely at the Address:
✓(1)Bitcoin ATM in Kuta, Bali – Bitcoin.co.id Information Center, Legian Kaja Street, No. 455 Kuta, Bali Indonesia
✓(2)Bitcoin ATM in Ubud – Hubud, Jalan Monkey Forest 88X, Ubud Gianyar Bali 80571, Indonesia
( Sourch: https://www.finansialku.com/apakah-ada-mesin-atm-bitcoin-di-indonesia/ )

Use the Bitcoin ATM Machine and have fun on the island of Bali.

I think this is the best solution. I live in Indonesia but I didn't realize that there are Bitcoin ATMs in my country. thank you guys for sharing this information. I hope to have experience using a bitcoin ATM.  but that means I have to take a vacation to Bali first And my location and Bali is very different. I may have to take two flights to get there.

[worle1bm]

The tourism is different part from btc and if they don't accept crypto payments so we should not visit there? What kind of logic is this I don't understand as many places which are attraction centre and destination place which don't accept bitcoin so will they see downfall in tourism industry? If they don't accept it they have their own issues and will regret later on but how many people are actually willing to pay with it travelling to Bali or any other place? The first thing they do is currency exchange for spending in that country but still you can find ways to make crypto payments.

[chigo]

Tourists can still use Bitcoin in Bali. but it's not for direct payment transactions. but tourists can also exchange their Bitcoin first at a Bitcoin ATM machine which has also been on the island of Bali, Indonesia since 2014.

Namely at the Address:
✓(1)Bitcoin ATM in Kuta, Bali – Bitcoin.co.id Information Center, Legian Kaja Street, No. 455 Kuta, Bali Indonesia
✓(2)Bitcoin ATM in Ubud – Hubud, Jalan Monkey Forest 88X, Ubud Gianyar Bali 80571, Indonesia
( Sourch: https://www.finansialku.com/apakah-ada-mesin-atm-bitcoin-di-indonesia/ )

Use the Bitcoin ATM Machine and have fun on the island of Bali.

Very valuable information, friends, thank you for sharing and hopefully it will be useful for tourists who want to do (alternative) transactions with bitcoin there.

Just go to Thailand haha.

Thailand is very friendly to crypto and even allows people to do crypto business and do crypto meetings. And it's a great decision because it does not affect the government much but makes people happy and richer.

thailand is a great place too but based on Tripadvisor bali is included in the dream place of many world tourists,

The following is the TripAdvisor ranking of the top 10 most popular destinations in the world for 2023:
1. Dubai, United Arab Emirates
2. Bali, Indonesia
3. London, England
4. Rome, Italy
5. Paris, France
6. Cancun, Mexico
7. Crete, Greece
8. Marrakech, Morocco
9. Dominican Republic
10. Istanbul, Türkiye

Read more (use google translate)

[glendall]

when regulations are made by the local regional government, its citizens also obey the regulations made. so do the tourists who come
if the goal is to take a vacation from the start, with a refusal to pay with btc is not a reason to cancel a vacation in Bali
my opini

[jossiel]

There is nothing people can do if someone who's a high official is against the usage of bitcoin and imposes a law or encourages its citizens and tourists to avoid using it.

The governor of Bali was just doing his job. It is his responsibility to announce that warning to the whole people in Bali, both the citizen and tourists. Well, Indonesian law is against the use of Bitcoin as a payment tool. The governor of Bali can't do anything, he only delivered what the laws state. Since Bali is a part of Indonesia, they must obey the laws as well.

Yeah, that's his job and there's no personal attacks on it. Somehow some of us have become sensitive due to these policies because on our perspective, we see that there's no reason for them to imply such laws.

While talking about the connection and ties of Indonesia and Israel, AFAIK, there's really a conflict between the two as Indonesia don't recognize Israel for its sovereignty.

Israel is a colonialist. Indonesia is always against a country that invades another country. Israel steals the land of Palestine, that's why Indonesia never recognizes its sovereignty.

Well, I have nothing to say about this issue. I'll better leave it to each their own and everyone has their own beliefs and views regarding these matters.

[sulendra12]

with rules like this, do you still want to go to bali?

Why people refrain to go to  somewhere else just because they ban the currency that still is not widely spread around the world? Indonesia doesn't allow Bitcoin as any sort of payment method and they just following the rules about that, but still you can use it as investment method just like the others(but it's a different topic). People would still go to Bali because the great scenery and lot of beautiful places in Bali not because Bitcoin.

[imamusma]

Tourists can still use Bitcoin in Bali. but it's not for direct payment transactions. but tourists can also exchange their Bitcoin first at a Bitcoin ATM machine which has also been on the island of Bali, Indonesia since 2014.

Namely at the Address:
✓(1)Bitcoin ATM in Kuta, Bali – Bitcoin.co.id Information Center, Legian Kaja Street, No. 455 Kuta, Bali Indonesia
✓(2)Bitcoin ATM in Ubud – Hubud, Jalan Monkey Forest 88X, Ubud Gianyar Bali 80571, Indonesia
( Sourch: https://www.finansialku.com/apakah-ada-mesin-atm-bitcoin-di-indonesia/ )

Use the Bitcoin ATM Machine and have fun on the island of Bali.

The article you quoted was published in 2018 when Indonesia still allowed bitcoin ATM machines to operate in Bali. But as far as I know, the bitcoin ATM machine in Bali has been deactivated and is no longer operating.



A great alternative for foreign tourists is converting bitcoin and cryptos to fiat. That is one that will keep them out of legal trouble because Indonesia does not legalize bitcoin as a legal tender. Anonymous payments are possible, but they just can't be made in public like in many other countries as long as both parties agree on the payment instrument.

[crypticj]

Thailand is very friendly to crypto and even allows people to do crypto business and do crypto meetings. And it's a great decision because it does not affect the government much but makes people happy and richer.

thailand is a great place too but based on Tripadvisor bali is included in the dream place of many world tourists,

If you've been to both countries, you would know that Thailand is the same as Bali, but better. In Bali infrastructure is shit, impossible to safely drive bikes, you can be robbed, no Bitcoin, and the government hates tourists (for some fkn reason), so yeah, they don't want us around.

And I was talking about crypto adoption. Thailand even has its own crypto exchange and I know a guy who has a crypto business (an official one). So yeah, Thailand is winning simply cos government doesn't care about crypto, which is a great thing.

[yohananaomi]

I think about whether someone wants to go to Bali, it is possible because they have come or heard stories from their relatives about Bali being friendly to tourists, apart from of course the beautiful scenery and customs which are very thick with its culture.
Regarding bitcoin, I think the governor of Bali is not unfriendly to crypto, but because the government of Indonesia [Bali is a region in Indonesia] prohibits the use of bitcoin as a legal transaction tool, so if there was an ATM in the past, it is no longer visible. . but the government doesn't prohibit bitcoin if you want to exchange it first with money that can be accepted there [idr,$], so there's no reason that you can't use bitcoin [crypto].

[MusaMohamed]

A great alternative for foreign tourists is converting bitcoin and cryptos to fiat. That is one that will keep them out of legal trouble because Indonesia does not legalize bitcoin as a legal tender.

Using fiat currency when you are traveling to a new country is always the most convenient method. I don't know about regulations on Bitcoin in Indonesia but if their government does not prohibit Bitcoin and its transaction as payment method, locals and travelers can use it without legal issues. They don't need Indonesia accept Bitcoin as legal tender to use it for transaction and as a payment method.

Big problems for travelers and locals only exist if the Indonesian government says Bitcoin transaction is illegal and prohibited there.

Cryptocurrency in Indonesia. That article says you can use cryptocurrencies as commodities in Indonesia.