Bitcointalk is not an office

[Cryptomultiplier]

I love the fact you realized sooner than later about this topic, OP.
The features that would first and furmostly distinguish the term 'office', is the presence of physical structure or space or work area.  This is one thing this forum don't have, as it can be likened to an almost decentralized social platform, just like the cryptocurrencies it hopes to tell more about.

Secondly, it is more or less like an online hangout community where there are many persons with one common language or common interest, which in this case is Bitcoin, Altcoins, shit coins, meme coins and the likes.

Mostly futuristic is the approach with which Bitcointalk is functioning and can't be in anyway compared to an office with steady paychecks, overbearing supervisors or bosses, wierd work buddies, even with the remote access and video stream exceptions most companies make.

[Bushdark]

Bitcoin is not an office but a community where we can interact with others and give opinions based on what we think.
It all depends on how we see the forum and what we are really doing here. It is obvious that we can monetize our writeup by joining signature campaigns which is cool but that should not make us to think of not having a job that would fetch us some money as a Bitcoin investor. There are many things we can do here by trying to get information that would help us in our research, reading and leaning, monetizing our skills and many more.

[isaac_clarke22]

I recalled someone posting a picture of a "farm"; people actually sitting around a table posting with different accounts to earn from bounty/ signature campaigns lol

Holy crap, I know what you're talking about. I think The Sceptical Chymist received that kind of PM long time ago, lmao. I'll edit this post once I found it.

Edit: I think this was the one that you're talking about. I can also recall marlboroza posting the same stuff but they all had that "Bitcoin Tshirt" and they were all in one community, iirc.

I received a PM today with a typical excuse:

Hello sir,
I'm representing my friends to appeal about our accounts that you give negative trust due to this post.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4650049.0
I wish to inform you that those accounts not belong to a single person, we are making a community to perform bounty campaign.
Does working on bounty campaign with our own individual account against the rules?
About the those wallet that are connected to each other, we used it to safe the fee of transaction.
Some of our team today (the other member are working at home, at the moment):

here is our website : http://kidoelkempoel.com/index.html
Please kindly reconsider, and please remove the negative trust on our account.
Thank you.

I hear the explanation of what I bolded above a lot.  Transaction fees are pretty damn low, so there's really no reason why funds should be pooled--and given that blockchain transactions are the only good way to prove accounts are connected, people shouldn't be doing this.

I'm hardly swayed by this picture, either.  It shows a bunch of shitposters sitting around a shitposting table in a shitposting farm.  They deserve negative trust just for that.  Give me a fucking break.  Guaranteed the women here don't care about bitcoin in the least.  They got recruited to spam like suicide bombers get recruited by ISIS.

[UserU]

Lol, bingo!

[sokani]

I read different articles of newbie particular in beginners and help board and I notice that so many of the newbie have in mind that bitcointalk is an office to fetch and earn money. And it's noted that the primary agenda of making bitcointalk is to have a different reasons and suggestions of making the problem of bitcoin to be lesser, I will say some people are not informed of why bitcointalk is been created and its the reason why everytime some newbie make first and second post you know that their plan of registering is to earn a bitcoin.

Bitcointalk can never be an office. Though, there's a monetary benefit attached for using the platform but that should not be at the back of your mind, especially as a beginner because if you want to go down that path, you would definitely miss the big picture. A newbie should see the forum as a place to garner knowledge and valuable information about bitcoin and other crypto related stuffs that can be really helpful. Then, if the person has other skills or services he/she can render and be rewarded for it, then the person can go for it.

[Timmzzy]

To me i see BITCOINTALK forum as a kind of university (LECTURE HALL) because there is no kind of information you wont find here probably learn things from good quality POST. on the other hand we are all here to learn something that is going to take us along way in the crypto space not excluding other financial services.

[BIT-BENDER]

If we are being very frank we won't be putting all the blames on newbies, yes we understand the human mind keeps searching for wealth or money to sustain ourselves, but I would blame the people that are inviting newbies into the forum they are mostly the reason that newbies has a twisted thought about the forum and are oriented into believe you are only here for money.

I am lucky that I wasn't having that thought when joining the forum but many newbies face this issues and it takes the dedicated once to actually retrace their steps and start to do the right thing. I think we should start telling and guiding the newbies properly when inviting them into the forum.

[Kelward]

I read different articles of newbie particular in beginners and help board and I notice that so many of the newbie have in mind that bitcointalk is an office to fetch and earn money. And it's noted that the primary agenda of making bitcointalk is to have a different reasons and suggestions of making the problem of bitcoin to be lesser, I will say some people are not informed of why bitcointalk is been created and its the reason why everytime some newbie make first and second post you know that their plan of registering is to earn a bitcoin.

Firstly there's a reason this forum has some privileges that gives its members the opportunity to make money while they're members of the forum. We're in the 21st century and social medias where we spend majority of our time has implemented an avenue for their members to be able to monetize their hobbies and passions, the forum couldn't be any different. The forum isn't against you making money while you're using the forum but against abusing such privilege or using the forum just for the sore purpose of making money from here. We shouldn't have the mindset of just making money from the forum but are free to do so when the opportunity comes that's why we have service boards for announcing service we can offer for exchange for Bitcoin.

Newbies shoudn't consider the forum as just an avenue to make money or they'll miss the beauty of the forum. The forum should be used as a medium to pass on knowledge to the younger generation of Bitcoiner and a means to learn from the OGs that were in the game before we came. There are lots of knowledge on the forum and this should be our main focus (how to benefits for those knowledge) and not how to make money. Knowledge and Information is wealth and that should be our focused any other thing should be extra.

Personally I think that earning money or incentives can be a motivating factor for people to be more committed to reach their desired goals. So I think that it doesn't matter if it's money that is the motivating factor for a newbie, or he considers bitcoitalk as an office, what matters is that you have to be committed and follow the rules and regulations of the forum in order for you to be ranked.  Let money or whatever motivate you, but get the job done first, learn passionately about bitcoin and all it's complex technicalities and terminologies, learn how to make money with bitcoin, make your contributions in the forum with quality posts. Hopefully in the short or long term, reward will come.

[savetheFORUM]

If we are being very frank we won't be putting all the blames on newbies, yes we understand the human mind keeps searching for wealth or money to sustain ourselves, but I would blame the people that are inviting newbies into the forum they are mostly the reason that newbies has a twisted thought about the forum and are oriented into believe you are only here for money.

I am lucky that I wasn't having that thought when joining the forum but many newbies face this issues and it takes the dedicated once to actually retrace their steps and start to do the right thing. I think we should start telling and guiding the newbies properly when inviting them into the forum.

You are probably right and I would also say that the people who invite new people to the forum by telling them that they can earn money from here are the ones who should be blamed for all the spam and newbies having the mindset that this forum is some kind of office where people can do jobs and earn money while they are unaware of the fact that the earnings from the forum are only a kind of a reward for quality posters.

Newbies start inquiring about how they can earn merits, how they can join signature campaigns, and how they can earn money right after joining the forum instead of asking about anything related to Bitcoin, blockchain, cryptocurrencies, or anything like that which the forum is actually for.

[Gallar]

I read different articles of newbie particular in beginners and help board and I notice that so many of the newbie have in mind that bitcointalk is an office to fetch and earn money. And it's noted that the primary agenda of making bitcointalk is to have a different reasons and suggestions of making the problem of bitcoin to be lesser, I will say some people are not informed of why bitcointalk is been created and its the reason why everytime some newbie make first and second post you know that their plan of registering is to earn a bitcoin.

The bitcointalk forum is certainly the majority of posts containing discussions about bitcoin and other cryptos. Because this forum was built to discuss questions or problems about bitcoin and crypto. Then if understood and examined more deeply, I'm sure the majority of members in this forum definitely want money. But by first learning about bitcoin or crypto science. Such as learning about the techniques that must be used to trade on the crypto market. Then the learning can be obtained through discussion among fellow members of the forum. So in essence the members who join this forum, when viewed from the earliest intentions, are definitely aiming for the profit aspect, which is obtained from cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin.

And in my opinion, if beginners think about money or profits when joining this forum, I don't think they are completely wrong. The most important thing is that these beginners can still contribute well to this forum and not violate the rules and conditions of the forum.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Yeah, Bitcointalk is not an office, and the points you made are valid, but the thing is, people get on the forum based on a reference from someone who gives them full hope of how they can start earning a living if they join the forum, and that's why most people just rely on the SATs they earn each week. I remember the ban appeal of DiMarxist, where he was begging to get unbanned, stating that he is a student, which means he's probably relaying on the signature payment he receives here as funds to see him through his academics. Of course, it's not bad to get some side hustle jobs to earn money from, but only relying on them is not a wise thing to do. My mentor on the forum (...) would always say that, "In some situations, what we count as a realiable source of income may not be realiable." Users can just see payment from campaigns as a way of receiving incentives from their contribution and, as a side-hustle, let them get some real work to do, learn a skill with the payment they earn from signatures, or perhaps even start a business.

Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺

[alastantiger]

                       List of things newbie should know as a beginner

~ The purpose of bitcointalk is to share knowledge of cryptocurrency across each others

Agree.

~ Having earning in mind to register in bitcointalk will make you as a Newbie not to know the advantages and disadvantages of bitcoin

Agree and disagree. Many users signed up on this forum for several reasons and earning in bitcoin on the side while learning about bitcoin and cryptocurrencies could be another reason. It doesn't stop one from from the good, ugly sides of bitcoin and the market.

~ learning is the primary thing that will make newbie to understand the features of cryptocurrency

Agree. And you learn by contributing. You learn too by participating in signature campaigns. Some signature campaigns select prominent members of the forum. This could spur a newbie to want to be a prominent member and that is through getting more involved in the discussion that goes on here.

~ knowledge of cryptocurrency and bitcoin precisely remains constant and it can pave way for you to earn in future if been understood

Agree.

~ Don't be conscious of merit but understand the system of making quality posts

Agree and disagree. Being conscious of merits reduces the rate at which one makes low quality posts becasue only high quaity posts gets merits 9 out of 10 times.

~ Engage in a conversation mostly related in bitcoin.

Disagree. Know about economics and gambling and the rest. Bitcoin is only a part of the whole and not the whole itself. Be versatile.

[uche6215]

Bitcointalk is a learning and acquiring knowledge on bitcoin platform. Even though you don't have the basic knowledge on bitcoin and other Cryptocurrencies, you can learn a lot from here. So what the person has to do is to observe the activities of the forum. Before start posting. But I know that everyone has their own way of joining the forum.

Bitcointalk is a learning and educating platform and not to do gossiping and other bad activities. I welcome everyone both the old and new members to the forum.

[bettercrypto]

Why don't do both. That's an awesome thing when hobby and making money are the same thing.

You are right there, because there are others here who are members of the forum, they give a different meaning to the others who are newbies, saying that the only reason they are here is to find income from bitcoin or crypto.

Even if we say that others only aim to gain knowledge about bitcoin, cryptocurrency and trading, of course as time goes by opportunity also for them if they become eligible there is nothing wrong if while they are studying here they can also earn It's just that the others are just malicious and have something to say, but after all, those who think like that are also making money here on the forum.

[Bazzu]

I don't think there's anything wrong if we join here with the aim of earning money as well as to discuss sharing experiences and seeking knowledge, because after all we really need money so I think if we can earn money here there's nothing wrong if we are looking for money here while discussing and add insight.

I think we as members of the forum should enjoy everything that is available here.
because most importantly we have to comply with the rules of this forum.

[Sexylizzy2813]

I don't think there's anything wrong if we join here with the aim of earning money as well as to discuss sharing experiences and seeking knowledge, because after all we really need money so I think if we can earn money here there's nothing wrong if we are looking for money here while discussing and add insight.

I think we as members of the forum should enjoy everything that is available here.
because most importantly we have to comply with the rules of this forum.

Really nothing is wrong with what you saying but where the problem lies is when members put that EARNING first, like it makes it the main purpose of joining the Forum in the first place. Everybody needs money no doubt but you have to check your surroundings and ask yourself "is this the main reason (just to earn) for this place to be alive up till now?"
To me when you come here in the Forum, do the needful I know everyone has a target but don't let that Earning stuff get into your head, make this Forum a place that you need to get and sharing your knowledge about Bitcoin, contribute, get yourself well known especially the new ones before you know it what you had in mind will just be presented on your table without you knowing.
Bitcointalk might not be an office to few but it is to many and they respect everything that goes on in here and they won't want to go against any rules and regulations of this Forum. Those who sees this place as an office are those who respect this place with everything they've got, because you only take good care of something that's important to you and you devote your time to it.

[blckhawk]

Bitcointalk is a learning and acquiring knowledge on bitcoin platform. Even though you don't have the basic knowledge on bitcoin and other Cryptocurrencies, you can learn a lot from here. So what the person has to do is to observe the activities of the forum. Before start posting. But I know that everyone has their own way of joining the forum.

Bitcointalk is a learning and educating platform and not to do gossiping and other bad activities. I welcome everyone both the old and new members to the forum.

Don't pretend, a lot of new accounts aren't here to really learn, some of them want to make money and they've heard that you can make money here by posting and so that's become their goal. I mean there's nothing wrong with trying to make a quick buck in the forum, aside from learning stuff about cryptocurrency and bitcoin there's nothing wrong but it should never be your priority if you want to be an active member of the forum because the money you earn equates to your rank and given how difficult it is to rank up especially for the upstarts. But I think that this topic isn't really for the newbies, this is for the people that are on campaigns and are just trying to get by with their posting at such a low quality.

[Abbatty]

• People who mine Bitcoin to make money.
• People who invest in Bitcoin to make money.
• People who lend Bitcoin to make money.
• People who exchange Bitcoin to make money.
• People sell their services to earn in Bitcoin and make money. This includes business owners.

I agree with you, your list here is actually true, bitcointalk is a place where a lot of people with different motives come together to either discuss and transact and all with the intention of making money. There are miners inverstors, traders and people with other services come here to carryout their several services and to some they see bitcointalk as an office, they can’t do without it and they just have to be here everyday to earn for themselves. It’s more like an office where the workers have different goals to accomplish.

Also, keep in mind that some people don't have enough time to rank their accounts here, I'm talking of business owners and individuals who have talents but want to provide their services here. That's why there's a copper member.

Everyone here have different services they provide which in turn they earn money from regardless of their rank. Some people rank up their accounts to perform advertising services for some companies and sone rank up along the line while contributing to the forum in their own way. We all have different motives so to OP bitcointalk is not an office but to some it their office.

Yes, you are a member but that doesn't mean that other people's daily life revolves around here to focus on ranking their accounts under 6 months.

Nobody is obligated to rank up their accounts by force but having an high rank account will give you reputation and will be easier for people to trust you and make your work more easier for you. Newbie accounts have the  ones carrying out scam activities the most that’s why it is difficult for people to trust a new account since creating the account is free they wouldn’t have anything to lose.

People have life outside of the forum so working here doesn’t mean you don’t do anything other than the forum.

[Woodie]

The forum is made of all kinds of people with different needs from the forum, and the fact that we have the people making money through the running of a business such as a mixer, casino, selling of all kinds of services and this can pretty much be called an office only difference from the traditional setups is that this one exists online and people that treat Bitcointalk as an office aren't far off either.

Am certain the primary goal is to share crypto knowledge with others but what good is this knowledge if it cannot be  infused with other services we get IRL ??

[Gallar]

I read different articles of newbie particular in beginners and help board and I notice that so many of the newbie have in mind that bitcointalk is an office to fetch and earn money. And it's noted that the primary agenda of making bitcointalk is to have a different reasons and suggestions of making the problem of bitcoin to be lesser, I will say some people are not informed of why bitcointalk is been created and its the reason why everytime some newbie make first and second post you know that their plan of registering is to earn a bitcoin.

Basically, this BTT forum was created to discuss the world of crypto, especially Bitcoin. So your opinion is not wrong at all. However, in my opinion, there is nothing wrong if beginners or members of the BTT forum have the intention of earning income or getting bitcoins. Because everything is available on this forum and is open to all members of the BTT forum who have met the requirements (quality of posts, rank and number of achievements). So I don't think this is a problem. Because the most important thing is that beginners or members can contribute well to this forum.

Apart from that, being able to earn income in the form of bitcoin on this forum makes each member even more enthusiastic in expanding their knowledge about the world of crypto, bitcoin and so on. So in my opinion being able to earn income in the form of bitcoin on this forum will have a very positive impact on the members of this forum. Then another positive impact is that many members of this forum are helped economically. Therefore, I don't think this needs to be debated. Because this has a very positive impact and the most important thing is that every member follows the rules in this BTT forum well.

                        List of things newbie should know as a beginner

~ The purpose of bitcointalk is to share knowledge of cryptocurrency across each others
~Snip

That's right, crypto (bitcoin) is the main focus of discussion material in this forum. However, currently it is not just crypto (bitcoin) that is being discussed in this forum, but there are various things being discussed. Such as economics, politics and gambling. So I think the BTT forum now has a very complex and multi-information discussion path.