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June 17, 2023, 02:37:16 PM
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Even if he's a professor, it won't make him smarter to just talk about the evils of Bitcoin.
Even people like this will not be reminded despite the many facts that prove that Bitcoin is not as bad as he says.

There is no point in arguing when there is nothing to change. he will remain with his mindset and perspective on Bitcoin.

Don't regret not being able to remind him, there are still many other people who are more open-minded and can accept the reality of how Bitcoin works.
When he only answers once and then leaves the chat, it proves that he is just someone who is stupid and cannot accept any facts.

Even smart people look stupid when they believe something wrong and just sticks to their guns without accepting other people's explanations.
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June 17, 2023, 02:39:05 PM
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There are a lot of so-called experts who either have some personal agendas or work for someone whose goal is to create public change about someone or something. Such people can only be fought with hard facts, but not in a way that we think that they will change their minds, but that others see how wrong they are, and if we succeed, then no one will take such people seriously.

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Now, I'm getting more concerned because he is spreading negativity in most of the questions. What can I do? Is there anything legal step someone can take, any foundation working on such issue? Or how can I invite him for a debate? I can simply put him on ignore but I'm also concerned about people getting wrong message. That's why I'm thinking something different.

You can try to report his posts as content that is inaccurate/misleading, and as far as I can see Quora has a report system. I'm not familiar with how their system works, but if you're going to do something about it, then you better try to go in the direction of making it impossible for him to do what he's doing.

You can report content or users that violate Quora's policies using the "Report" option in the "..." menu.
From the Report menu, choose the option that best describes the policy violation. Clicking submit sends your report to Quora's moderation team. Submitting a report through this channel is the fastest and most efficient way to get your concern addressed.

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June 17, 2023, 02:59:53 PM
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Op, you have an honourable mission there, as helping people avoid negative feelings and fakes is very important in contemporary world, in any topic area. I think a mistake people often make when dismantling someone's false opinions is being too emotional about it, making a lot of ad hominem statements (about the person rather than his/her words).
As for engaging with him directly, it's worth noting that it's much harder to change someone's opinion than people usually think because people hold on to their beliefs a lot. If he doesn't want to be open, there's nothing you can do. But you can help others listen less to him by making strong factual statements.

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June 17, 2023, 03:12:45 PM
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That's a good initiative but i don't think there's something you can do about the negativity he is saying especially to a someone like him who is persistent of telling misinformation. Just accept the fact there are always haters and they are just insignificant numbers compare to the achievement Bitcoin reach in the past 5 years.

Just continue what you are doing, well, most people here to educate people, and stop debating to closed-minded people who always hates.

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June 17, 2023, 03:12:51 PM
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What can I do? Is there anything legal step someone can take, any foundation working on such issue? Or how can I invite him for a debate? I can simply put him on ignore but I'm also concerned about people getting wrong message. That's why I'm thinking something different.

Whoa, don't you think that is too far? if you meant you want to suppress him on a legal basis, I rather think it too much. Especially for a thing like Bitcoin which specifically does not have any legal entity. Note Craig Wright, who spread outright lies that are still going on and rather sue or pressure Bitcoin developers.

Inviting him to a debate won't do much if he has his own motive to decimate Bitcoin. You either fight them with factual counter-arguments or try to see whether Quora has a policy in regard to incorrect information.
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June 17, 2023, 03:34:56 PM
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I'm an active participant in quora. Mostly I'm engaged in cryptocurrency discussion in Bengali. My purpose is simply to fight against FUD, misinformation. I have been doing this actively for long time now. I have engaged in debates in quora.

For the last few years, I'm trying to have a debate about Bitcoin with Mohammad Ghoni who was a Professor in a private university of Bangladesh. He claims himself as a economic analyst.

However, his negativity against Bitcoin is totally stupid. In fact, it seems he is biased when talking about Bitcoin or other cryptocurrency. He talks nonsense as if he doesn't know anything about Bitcoin. He is spreading wrong information about Bitcoin in quora. It's simple, when you don't know anything perfectly and you want to talk about that, you will only generate some stupid text.

I tried to engage with him in his responses. I'm ready to have a debate with him. The problem is he doesn't reply when someone wants to talk against his stupid opinion. He simply put answer on quora and then leave. I have replied in many of his answer in quora but never got a reply.
Now, I'm getting more concerned because he is spreading negativity in most of the questions. What can I do? Is there anything legal step someone can take, any foundation working on such issue? Or how can I invite him for a debate? I can simply put him on ignore but I'm also concerned about people getting wrong message. That's why I'm thinking something different.

There are surely a lot of people who hates Bitcoin and that could really make sense, a lot of rich people hate cryptocurrency just because of its risk, and compared to other investment its probably the worst. Plus we don't really have assurance on this kind of investment cryptocurrency is still a new thing even at this point there are still a lot of people who don't know Bitcoin or cryptocurrency. Compared to the stock market which is a stock of a company it actually just a share but it is a company on Bitcoin your just buying some sort of digital currency.

So investing in cryptocurrency will always have FUD bitcoin it doesnt have any support even from the government. The best thing to do is just ignore him I mean you could teach Bitcoin to your friends, family, or other people, just let him do his thing and you do your thing as well. The investors will be the ones to decide if he/she is going to invest in it, He cant really stop bitcoin from adaptation for sure in the coming years Bitcoin and cryptocurrency will be a lot more popular.

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June 17, 2023, 03:43:43 PM
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There are a lot of so-called experts who either have some personal agendas or work for someone whose goal is to create public change about someone or something. Such people can only be fought with hard facts, but not in a way that we think that they will change their minds, but that others see how wrong they are, and if we succeed, then no one will take such people seriously.
Well, sometimes I feel like he is working with an agenda. In most of his replies, he always tries to spread negativity and because he wants to spread it for someone. Maybe for govt. Maybe he is secretly working for the government. I don't know but I got this feeling every time I read his responses.

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You can try to report his posts as content that is inaccurate/misleading, and as far as I can see Quora has a report system. I'm not familiar with how their system works, but if you're going to do something about it, then you better try to go in the direction of making it impossible for him to do what he's doing.
I'm really not sure how Quora report works. The problem is he is putting his opinion although they are wrong. I don't think Quora is going to take them down. Besides, he has grown a huge amount of followers there and the upvote he gets for his nonsense is huge. I don't think Quora will take down answers which have got the most upvotes. The only way is to jump with a group of people and downvote all of his nonsense lol. I even tried that but the number of downvotes is way below than upvotes he got.

Inviting him to a debate won't do much if he has his own motive to decimate Bitcoin.
Well, if there was a debate where he wouldn't leave the table without responding to my points, I'm sure he would get nothing to say. But that's not going to work. Well, I'm in touch with Mostofa Tanim (writer of the ever-first cryptocurrency and Bitcoin book). He used to arrange online seminars and invite a few other writers. I have proposed him to invite Mohammad Ghoni or the nonsense producer to talk about Bitcoin. Let's see what happens.

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June 17, 2023, 03:44:08 PM
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I'm an active participant in quora. Mostly I'm engaged in cryptocurrency discussion in Bengali. My purpose is simply to fight against FUD, misinformation. I have been doing this actively for long time now. I have engaged in debates in quora.

For the last few years, I'm trying to have a debate about Bitcoin with Mohammad Ghoni who was a Professor in a private university of Bangladesh. He claims himself as a economic analyst.

However, his negativity against Bitcoin is totally stupid. In fact, it seems he is biased when talking about Bitcoin or other cryptocurrency. He talks nonsense as if he doesn't know anything about Bitcoin. He is spreading wrong information about Bitcoin in quora. It's simple, when you don't know anything perfectly and you want to talk about that, you will only generate some stupid text.

I tried to engage with him in his responses. I'm ready to have a debate with him. The problem is he doesn't reply when someone wants to talk against his stupid opinion. He simply put answer on quora and then leave. I have replied in many of his answer in quora but never got a reply.
Now, I'm getting more concerned because he is spreading negativity in most of the questions. What can I do? Is there anything legal step someone can take, any foundation working on such issue? Or how can I invite him for a debate? I can simply put him on ignore but I'm also concerned about people getting wrong message. That's why I'm thinking something different.

There are surely a lot of people who hates Bitcoin and that could really make sense, a lot of rich people hate cryptocurrency just because of its risk, and compared to other investment its probably the worst. Plus we don't really have assurance on this kind of investment cryptocurrency is still a new thing even at this point there are still a lot of people who don't know Bitcoin or cryptocurrency. Compared to the stock market which is a stock of a company it actually just a share but it is a company on Bitcoin your just buying some sort of digital currency.

So investing in cryptocurrency will always have FUD bitcoin it doesnt have any support even from the government. The best thing to do is just ignore him I mean you could teach Bitcoin to your friends, family, or other people, just let him do his thing and you do your thing as well. The investors will be the ones to decide if he/she is going to invest in it, He cant really stop bitcoin from adaptation for sure in the coming years Bitcoin and cryptocurrency will be a lot more popular.


You can't argue with everyone on the internet because they are saying something wrong about BTC and the market. Those who spread Fud do have agenda of their own, if they are doing it then it could be that they want investors to sell for them to buy more or they simply hate the other project. Both happen all the time but the fud these days are often involved by certain well-known names in finance and some are government officials.

Its a never-ending cycle of fud but the ones that always emerge every time halving is nearer is about Satoshi conspiracy theories.


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June 17, 2023, 04:00:35 PM
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I tried to engage with him in his responses. I'm ready to have a debate with him. The problem is he doesn't reply when someone wants to talk against his stupid opinion. He simply put answer on quora and then leave. I have replied in many of his answer in quora but never got a reply.
Now, I'm getting more concerned because he is spreading negativity in most of the questions. What can I do? Is there anything legal step someone can take, any foundation working on such issue? Or how can I invite him for a debate? I can simply put him on ignore but I'm also concerned about people getting wrong message. That's why I'm thinking something different.
Oh Quora, I see a lot of terrible answers there and I am not surprised that you're encountering such stupid answers there. Even outside crypto, you'll see plenty of stupid answers there and anyone could just put titles into their names anyway in there.

We cannot control how other individual thinks anyway. Don't worry about people getting the "wrong message". If they're really intellectual, they wouldn't just rely on a single source. We got Reddit, this forum, and even Youtube (even though I hate many crypto Youtubers).
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Well, you can try reaching out to the university he "says" he's part of. That's probably the most straightforward way you can to get hold of him, and to try and make him come forward and talk about the issue face to face. It should technically be taken notice of since it is an "educating" type of thing. It is private though so things might just go the other way around than I expect. As for it being legal, ehh Idk, I don't think it warrants enough grounds to be taken as one.

If you want to stay within quora bounds, correct him on every thread he tries to answer to. Though that honestly isn't gonna get so far imo. But hey, if you're dedicated to trying to correct him but within those bounds, that's probably your best bet.

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Fighting fud is one of the challenges we face in the crypto market since there are so many person in the crypto space that would want the market to keep falling so that they can make money money from other people's misfortune. If we want to fight fud, it's a good approach and it could limit the strength of the fud in the market reducing the effect it could pose that cam make people to sell there holdings.

I will rather be interested to fight Bitcoin fud because Bitcoin is the major coin that control the market and if we don't do so, it might get worse than what it is now. There are people that just want to see other projects that are growing to fall down to the dip because they don't like competitors in the market.

There head been so many fud in the market and we have seen so many effects of them making a whole cryptocurrency project that is doing well to fall drastically making investors to sell there holdings because they are afraid of losing there money in the market. Fud can be very severe if the team do not look for ways to convince investors of not selling there holdings.


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June 17, 2023, 04:45:06 PM
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I'm an active participant in quora. Mostly I'm engaged in cryptocurrency discussion in Bengali. My purpose is simply to fight against FUD, misinformation. I have been doing this actively for long time now. I have engaged in debates in quora.

For the last few years, I'm trying to have a debate about Bitcoin with Mohammad Ghoni who was a Professor in a private university of Bangladesh. He claims himself as a economic analyst.

However, his negativity against Bitcoin is totally stupid. In fact, it seems he is biased when talking about Bitcoin or other cryptocurrency. He talks nonsense as if he doesn't know anything about Bitcoin. He is spreading wrong information about Bitcoin in quora. It's simple, when you don't know anything perfectly and you want to talk about that, you will only generate some stupid text.

I tried to engage with him in his responses. I'm ready to have a debate with him. The problem is he doesn't reply when someone wants to talk against his stupid opinion. He simply put answer on quora and then leave. I have replied in many of his answer in quora but never got a reply.
Now, I'm getting more concerned because he is spreading negativity in most of the questions. What can I do? Is there anything legal step someone can take, any foundation working on such issue? Or how can I invite him for a debate? I can simply put him on ignore but I'm also concerned about people getting wrong message. That's why I'm thinking something different.

what you did was correct, you should be able to defend your argument and still refute the various statements he gave about bitcoin. but you also can't limit the thought of him saying that bitcoin is a useless thing. it was his right to say that because we can't force someone to think the way we want them to.

my advice is that it's better if you don't think too much about what he said and stay focused on your stance. if he opens a thread and then runs away, you can also do that and open more threads than he did. you can ask questions about fiat and compare it to Bitcoin or various other things.



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I don't even know the Quora is a platform that people can discuss things. I always received theirs message in email box. And sometimes I saw their news headlines on some of the browsers. FUD is one of the biggest challenge bitcoinners face in the world. Op you don't have to challenge him for a debate. You him the truth and he refuses the truth about it then leave and because you have done your own part. Even you engaged him in a long debate he will not still listen to you because he has already condemned bitcoin in his heart. So whatever you tell him is out of point. I thank God that he is a learned person. Just recommend some articles, materials for him to consult about bitcoin. Only him can't stop bitcoin. Not all economist are economist, some are government sponsored so they don't see anything good from cryptocurrency even that though they are seeing the good work of cryptocurrency they will still against it. Don't fight for bitcoin but bitcoin is capable of fight for himself. The price of bitcoin will shock every fud. And the longitude of bitcoin will also surprise the enemy of bitcoin.
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I don't have ideas how to fight FUD about Bitcoin, they are whales and has back up with bigger countries make them easy for making FUD and Bitcoin price dropped drastically. But keep holding and trust Bitcoin is the best investment at the future as my way keep fight with FUD although still impossible have bigger impact for fight them. Need the put some expert and support with Bitcoin at important position in some countries parliament, its can help and support for them help Bitcoin and against with FUD coming every time.

Change first at parliament actually in United State as the most country always made FUD about bitcoin, I think when important position filled by some one who love bitcoin there are not any FUD anymore in the future.

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June 17, 2023, 05:11:24 PM
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Some people just talk bullshit without understanding anything just for some attention. Maybe that "professor" you are talking about is one of those persons. If you can't reach to him, why not take it public and challenge his claims? If he is a well known professor, he will feel pressured to respond to you because of his reputation. Maybe write a column or an article and get it published? Quote whatever he says and refute and show why he is wrong using facts and other well known resources. This will also help you create awareness among other people too, while making people doubt about the claims that the "professor" makes.

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June 17, 2023, 05:29:31 PM
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I wouldn't argue with him if I were you because it would just waste your precious time. Just let him be with his stupidity because I'm sure he won't open his mind and eyes to the truth of Bitcoin.

Maybe you need to make the right information about Bitcoin and see what the response is. If he comes to you with all his stupidity, you just serve him enough and let him say all sorts of things about Bitcoin. He will surely tire himself and will look for someone else who is willing to respond.

Let it be if there is someone like him. They are indeed tasked with spreading lies like that to the public. After all, today's users are getting smarter and won't easily believe what other people say. There will be people who will argue with him, but make sure it's not you. Let other people argue with him.

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June 17, 2023, 06:13:40 PM
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I'm an active participant in quora. Mostly I'm engaged in cryptocurrency discussion in Bengali. My purpose is simply to fight against FUD, misinformation. I have been doing this actively for long time now. I have engaged in debates in quora.

For the last few years, I'm trying to have a debate about Bitcoin with Mohammad Ghoni who was a Professor in a private university of Bangladesh. He claims himself as a economic analyst.

However, his negativity against Bitcoin is totally stupid. In fact, it seems he is biased when talking about Bitcoin or other cryptocurrency. He talks nonsense as if he doesn't know anything about Bitcoin. He is spreading wrong information about Bitcoin in quora. It's simple, when you don't know anything perfectly and you want to talk about that, you will only generate some stupid text.

I tried to engage with him in his responses. I'm ready to have a debate with him. The problem is he doesn't reply when someone wants to talk against his stupid opinion. He simply put answer on quora and then leave. I have replied in many of his answer in quora but never got a reply.
Now, I'm getting more concerned because he is spreading negativity in most of the questions. What can I do? Is there anything legal step someone can take, any foundation working on such issue? Or how can I invite him for a debate? I can simply put him on ignore but I'm also concerned about people getting wrong message. That's why I'm thinking something different.

Do you know that if a person does not have answers to your questions, it means his point of view is not strong and he is unable to answer our queries and defend his point of view?

Since you are talking about a public forum Quora, where he puts the question/comment in a negative manner about Bitcoin, and in return you post the logical answer to that comment to which he has no words to reply. Now let the people decide who has the right point of view. They will read his comments and your comments and people will judge who is creating the fud and who is talking about the reality.

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June 17, 2023, 06:40:59 PM
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I think leaving the comment with correct information is the best action to do in this situation. When you are presented with wrong and right information, if people are smart enough, they will try to verify the both info and take the right side based on which one is correct to them. There's not much you can do if he is not communicating. You can not force him to join in a conversation or debate. Also, Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are banned in Bangladesh. Taking any legal action will only lead to more trouble and as far as I know, the Government will accuse you in the end.

So keep doing what you are doing and spread the right information. As I said, if people are smart enough, they will figure this out on their own. Haters will say many things, but they can never surpass the success. Take my word, if Bitcoin ever become legal in Bangladesh, he will be there spreading the right info and will be encouraging people to take a part in it. This is just how it works. So, do what you feel right.
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June 17, 2023, 06:55:35 PM
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Now, I'm getting more concerned because he is spreading negativity in most of the questions. What can I do? Is there anything legal step someone can take, any foundation working on such issue? Or how can I invite him for a debate? I can simply put him on ignore but I'm also concerned about people getting wrong message. That's why I'm thinking something different.

People that spread misinformation or stereotypes about certain things are actually wise that they don’t engage people who counter there arguments because it will create an audience and since they know they are spreading misinformation they wouldn’t last in the discussion/argument so they simply ignore you to save there face.
My advice will be since there is no legal on this basis yet because everyone is entitled to there opinion so you can’t sue him for that I would say you shouldn’t ignore him so that you will see all his replies or answers and once you find a misinformation you address that under his reply. I think many will see you post or you will Atleast Avert even if it is small the misinformation. And if he gets tired by your attack he might want an open discussion then

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June 17, 2023, 07:02:11 PM
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I'm not a Quora user, I mean haven't been on this platform in a while so I don't know if there's a discussion about bitcoin there maybe someone else is discussing it there.

But with the above, I will just ignore it because if you argue with someone who doesn't know anything (aka stupid) it will be a waste of time, even though he has spread lies about bitcoin and another crypto, then just deny it because you think he won't reply again, people who don't understand them will only spread bad things because they don't like bitcoin so there will be a lot of opposition every time he finds the bad news.

I don't think you should worry about them because for me they won't read news from just one source, maybe some other news sources should also be read.

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