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June 22, 2023, 11:37:54 PM
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if you tell a gambler who you think is addicted that he or she is an addict, and he or she picks an offense, do not blame such a gambler because it's very possible he or she is yet to realize he's or she's addicted, they can only discover when they decide to stop gambling but realize they are finding it difficult to stop.

Perfectly understandable. A whole lot of addicts wouldn’t actually realize they’re addicts unless being told to their face or perhaps when they’re trying to stop the habit and finds out that it’s not as easy to stop as it initially was when first starting out.
I can understand when an addicted gambler takes offense when being told to his face that he’s addicted. Denial is a phase when the person doesn’t believe he/she can get addicted and denial in itself could hinder any thoughts of trying to get better cause in the mind, there is no addiction to get out of.

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June 23, 2023, 12:05:11 PM
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Perfectly understandable. A whole lot of addicts wouldn’t actually realize they’re addicts unless being told to their face or perhaps when they’re trying to stop the habit and finds out that it’s not as easy to stop as it initially was when first starting out.
I can understand when an addicted gambler takes offense when being told to his face that he’s addicted. Denial is a phase when the person doesn’t believe he/she can get addicted and denial in itself could hinder any thoughts of trying to get better cause in the mind, there is no addiction to get out of.
It's not that easy to try to tell gambling addicts about their addiction but as long as we slowly give addicts something to understand, I think they will soon recognize that they are gambling addicts.
indeed in telling a friend or family who is addicted sometimes we have to be strong without having to be offended because a gambling addict will have high emotions when told about his addiction he will deny and scold us to keep silent because he feels the most right.
but as long as we patiently tell them casually and calmly I'm sure they will soon realize and have the desire to quit.

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June 23, 2023, 12:13:02 PM
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Well, this is what you really have to feel.
As long as we don't feel disturbed by the gambling activities we are doing, and don't disturb other people because we gamble with our own money, why do we feel we have to really care about what other people say.
We just have to focus on ourselves regardless of whether we are addicts or not as long as we can still share finances well and as long as we don't feel like we are doing things that are out of bounds then it doesn't matter because we can do whatever we like as long as it is in accordance with the portion regardless of whether it's addiction or not as long as it's not burdensome then it still doesn't matter.
Even though addicts are actually at greater risk, as long as we know the rules that we treat ourselves and as long as we comply with these rules, it's not a big problem.
I agree with you and indeed when we gamble using our own money and don't disturb other people, then there is no need to care about other people's bad words.
But if you are already addicted, there are some things that can harm other people, such as borrowing money and also committing crimes to be able to continue gambling.
So it's natural that many people look bad at gambling activities and often say words that are inappropriate for us as gamblers.

As long as we can be responsible and never disturb other people, we can be said to be wise gamblers.

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June 23, 2023, 03:16:19 PM
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Well, this is what you really have to feel.
As long as we don't feel disturbed by the gambling activities we are doing, and don't disturb other people because we gamble with our own money, why do we feel we have to really care about what other people say.
We just have to focus on ourselves regardless of whether we are addicts or not as long as we can still share finances well and as long as we don't feel like we are doing things that are out of bounds then it doesn't matter because we can do whatever we like as long as it is in accordance with the portion regardless of whether it's addiction or not as long as it's not burdensome then it still doesn't matter.
Even though addicts are actually at greater risk, as long as we know the rules that we treat ourselves and as long as we comply with these rules, it's not a big problem.
I agree with you and indeed when we gamble using our own money and don't disturb other people, then there is no need to care about other people's bad words.
But if you are already addicted, there are some things that can harm other people, such as borrowing money and also committing crimes to be able to continue gambling.
So it's natural that many people look bad at gambling activities and often say words that are inappropriate for us as gamblers.

As long as we can be responsible and never disturb other people, we can be said to be wise gamblers.
As I did, as long as it doesn't disturb other people, it doesn't matter, but when it comes to borrowing, it means it has become a disturbance to other people because of gambling addiction.
the conditions are slightly different when talking about this because indeed this will slightly damage our self-image. I don't have a problem with the views of other people who say I am a gambling addict or not because I have never done anything that harmed other people, be it in borrowing money or doing other things that made them lose so I don't feel there is a problem with that because I feel myself what kind of gambling and that is what really matters here. It would be a different story if indeed we gambled and were considered addicts and still harmed other people.

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June 23, 2023, 03:17:05 PM
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if you tell a gambler who you think is addicted that he or she is an addict, and he or she picks an offense, do not blame such a gambler because it's very possible he or she is yet to realize he's or she's addicted, they can only discover when they decide to stop gambling but realize they are finding it difficult to stop.

Perfectly understandable. A whole lot of addicts wouldn’t actually realize they’re addicts unless being told to their face or perhaps when they’re trying to stop the habit and finds out that it’s not as easy to stop as it initially was when first starting out.
I can understand when an addicted gambler takes offense when being told to his face that he’s addicted. Denial is a phase when the person doesn’t believe he/she can get addicted and denial in itself could hinder any thoughts of trying to get better cause in the mind, there is no addiction to get out of.
But most addicted gamblers will not stop even though they already know they are addicted to gambling. They can easily deny it and show proof that they are not a gambling addict. But some gamblers who are addicted to gambling and find out that they are gambling addicts will be offended and even angry at people who say that. They would probably say it was none of their business, knowing he was a gambling addict. It is very difficult to tell someone affected by gambling addiction, but if it is a family member, we must warn him and ask him to heal himself.

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June 23, 2023, 03:37:47 PM
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if you tell a gambler who you think is addicted that he or she is an addict, and he or she picks an offense, do not blame such a gambler because it's very possible he or she is yet to realize he's or she's addicted, they can only discover when they decide to stop gambling but realize they are finding it difficult to stop.

Perfectly understandable. A whole lot of addicts wouldn’t actually realize they’re addicts unless being told to their face or perhaps when they’re trying to stop the habit and finds out that it’s not as easy to stop as it initially was when first starting out.
I can understand when an addicted gambler takes offense when being told to his face that he’s addicted. Denial is a phase when the person doesn’t believe he/she can get addicted and denial in itself could hinder any thoughts of trying to get better cause in the mind, there is no addiction to get out of.
But most addicted gamblers will not stop even though they already know they are addicted to gambling. They can easily deny it and show proof that they are not a gambling addict. But some gamblers who are addicted to gambling and find out that they are gambling addicts will be offended and even angry at people who say that. They would probably say it was none of their business, knowing he was a gambling addict. It is very difficult to tell someone affected by gambling addiction, but if it is a family member, we must warn him and ask him to heal himself.

Any form of addiction would face a denial stage where they would neglect listening to opinions and observations by the people around them. Most of them are aware that they are spending too much time in gambling but they couldn't notice personally that they are really into gambling addiction. They will surely feel offended and will deny other people's observations as their defense but I don't think telling or informing them that they are already addicted to gambling would stop them from excessive playing.
To occasional gamblers, it will surely hurt their feelings unless it will be delivered in a good manner where they could also explain their side and defend themselves. Of course, most of us are protecting our image and being referred as a gambling addict is a heavy thing for us to bear.
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June 23, 2023, 04:18:50 PM
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As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.
If someone calls me an addicted gambler, I will definitely protest because I am not an addicted gambler. Moreover, gambling is looked down upon in many societies. To ask such a question is a direct insult. If I were an addicted gambler I would never reacted on this issue. But since I'm not, to say I'm an addicted gambler means I can't control myself, I am wasting a lot of money etc. associated with an addicted gambler which is difficult for any responsible gambler to accept the word. Moreover, an addicted gambler does not want to be known as an addicted.

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As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.
If someone calls me an addicted gambler, I will definitely protest because I am not an addicted gambler. Moreover, gambling is looked down upon in many societies. To ask such a question is a direct insult. If I were an addicted gambler I would never reacted on this issue. But since I'm not, to say I'm an addicted gambler means I can't control myself, I am wasting a lot of money etc. associated with an addicted gambler which is difficult for any responsible gambler to accept the word. Moreover, an addicted gambler does not want to be known as an addicted.

No reasonable person would label you as an addictive gambler if you are not one; but, if you are being tagged as such then there may be something you are doing wrong as a gambler, and you should check yourself. Being an addictive gambler is not a bad thing as long as you make a living from it. Some people use gambling as a side hustle, while others see it as a job and put their entire life on the line for it, not caring if they are labelled as an addictive gambler or not. One can be addicted while still controlling how much he wagers, and that is what matters as a gambler, not how often you play.



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June 23, 2023, 05:47:20 PM
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Would be worse if there's no professional diagnosis 'coz you'd be stereotyped or labeled in that case and there's no one who deserve such kind of treatment. Addiction is not limited to symptoms alone, this is why we have professionals in this field. There'll be tests to be conducted in order to determine a condition.

However, are those who are indicated to be an addict willing to take a test to find out their condition? People who are really addicts will consider themselves fine and do not need any tests and sometimes they are undetectable so it is difficult to determine whether they are addicts or not. Those who become addicts are already mentally attacked, so any advice given will be denied. Rehabilitation needs to be done to control their addiction to gambling.

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June 23, 2023, 06:28:49 PM
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Many people find it difficult to accept who they are and the bad habits that they have, accepting a habit is the first step that will determine if any help offered to you will work. As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.
everyone will definitely refuse if they are said to have an addiction to something especially when it comes to gambling addiction (which still has bad stereotypes in society in several states), but you don't reject the term "gambling addict" said by other people to you when you are indeed identified as having that history (such as gambling for hours and having debt because of the gambling you are experiencing)

(if i am a gambling addict) when i admit that i am slowly but surely becoming a gambling addict then the possibility that i will recover in the future will be great, the people closest to me will help me recover from it, so there is nothing wrong with admitting it.

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Would be worse if there's no professional diagnosis 'coz you'd be stereotyped or labeled in that case and there's no one who deserve such kind of treatment. Addiction is not limited to symptoms alone, this is why we have professionals in this field. There'll be tests to be conducted in order to determine a condition.

However, are those who are indicated to be an addict willing to take a test to find out their condition? People who are really addicts will consider themselves fine and do not need any tests and sometimes they are undetectable so it is difficult to determine whether they are addicts or not. Those who become addicts are already mentally attacked, so any advice given will be denied. Rehabilitation needs to be done to control their addiction to gambling.
Certainly an addict will always refuse whatever is given to him to diagnose if he is truly a gambling addict.
I'm not sure if gambling addicts are willing to do a test to find out their condition because they will always refuse on the grounds that their mentality and mind are already affected by their addiction so they don't take this addiction too seriously.
Gambling addicts can only be cured if they use forced methods to come to a psychology doctor to undergo examination and rehabilitation and after that maybe gambling addicts will understand a little about their addiction.

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June 23, 2023, 07:14:26 PM
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Many people find it difficult to accept who they are and the bad habits that they have, accepting a habit is the first step that will determine if any help offered to you will work. As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.

I think I would be very insulted if somebody called me any kind of addict, regardless of whether its a gambling addict, drug addict, alcohol or smoking addict. It is understood as an insult to those who are not addicts. Now, if somebody would tell me that I am expressing symptoms of addiction , then that is not something I would get mad at. I would question the person and make a judgement of myself, should the facts all check out.

It is imperative that one understands why one is being associated as an addict. But telling someone to their face or worse, to someone else, that one is an addict, as if it were diagnosed fact, can be wrong and very harming to one's reputation.


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June 24, 2023, 07:00:30 AM
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Many people find it difficult to accept who they are and the bad habits that they have, accepting a habit is the first step that will determine if any help offered to you will work. As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.

I think I would be very insulted if somebody called me any kind of addict, regardless of whether its a gambling addict, drug addict, alcohol or smoking addict. It is understood as an insult to those who are not addicts. Now, if somebody would tell me that I am expressing symptoms of addiction , then that is not something I would get mad at. I would question the person and make a judgement of myself, should the facts all check out.

It is imperative that one understands why one is being associated as an addict. But telling someone to their face or worse, to someone else, that one is an addict, as if it were diagnosed fact, can be wrong and very harming to one's reputation.



That's a good opinion mate, calling you directly that you are already an addict to whatever types of addiction is really something that can be taken as an insult. But if someone gives you an opinion or an observation that you are taking so deep and your engagement is no longer normal, that's something you need to take and think about. I agree when you are still unsure or you still don't accept that your engagement is already far from the usual.

Chosen words is also important when you are giving some opinion about a person who are already having difficulty in controlling their gambling participation, if they are still open for any criticism they can re-assess and change their ways, but if they are already addicted, that's something that really hard to take.

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June 24, 2023, 07:49:05 AM
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Well, this is what you really have to feel.
As long as we don't feel disturbed by the gambling activities we are doing, and don't disturb other people because we gamble with our own money, why do we feel we have to really care about what other people say.
We just have to focus on ourselves regardless of whether we are addicts or not as long as we can still share finances well and as long as we don't feel like we are doing things that are out of bounds then it doesn't matter because we can do whatever we like as long as it is in accordance with the portion regardless of whether it's addiction or not as long as it's not burdensome then it still doesn't matter.
Even though addicts are actually at greater risk, as long as we know the rules that we treat ourselves and as long as we comply with these rules, it's not a big problem.
I agree with you and indeed when we gamble using our own money and don't disturb other people, then there is no need to care about other people's bad words.
But if you are already addicted, there are some things that can harm other people, such as borrowing money and also committing crimes to be able to continue gambling.
So it's natural that many people look bad at gambling activities and often say words that are inappropriate for us as gamblers.

As long as we can be responsible and never disturb other people, we can be said to be wise gamblers.
As I did, as long as it doesn't disturb other people, it doesn't matter, but when it comes to borrowing, it means it has become a disturbance to other people because of gambling addiction.
the conditions are slightly different when talking about this because indeed this will slightly damage our self-image. I don't have a problem with the views of other people who say I am a gambling addict or not because I have never done anything that harmed other people, be it in borrowing money or doing other things that made them lose so I don't feel there is a problem with that because I feel myself what kind of gambling and that is what really matters here. It would be a different story if indeed we gambled and were considered addicts and still harmed other people.
Whether we don't care about what people say or feel on this subject matter doesn't matter, we should still strive to ensure that we moderate everything. Even if it's our money and did not borrow it, it still doesn't mean that we should be wasting it, everything we do including gambling should be done responsibly and be void of letting our conscience prick us about doing it badly.

In other words, we should be the judge of ourselves whether or not what we are doing is good. And if gambling has become an addict and you are wasting your money despite not borrowing it, then you should never be proud of yourself but rather fight to stop it.

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June 24, 2023, 08:19:50 AM
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I think I would be very insulted if somebody called me any kind of addict, regardless of whether its a gambling addict, drug addict, alcohol or smoking addict. It is understood as an insult to those who are not addicts. Now, if somebody would tell me that I am expressing symptoms of addiction , then that is not something I would get mad at. I would question the person and make a judgement of myself, should the facts all check out.

It is imperative that one understands why one is being associated as an addict. But telling someone to their face or worse, to someone else, that one is an addict, as if it were diagnosed fact, can be wrong and very harming to one's reputation.

Someone will only call you an addict if they have seen too much of what or what you prioritise. This may not sit well with you, but such a scenario can be seen as a wake up call to evaluate yourself to see if you truly fall into that category. As I previously stated, being addicted to something isn't all that bad as long as you're making something positive out of it. However, the ideal approach to use anything is to have control over it, not the other way around; don't allow it rule you; instead, you control it.

Remember that what is worthwhile is worthwhile to achieve well.

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June 24, 2023, 08:23:35 AM
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Many people find it difficult to accept who they are and the bad habits that they have, accepting a habit is the first step that will determine if any help offered to you will work. As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.

Very hard to answer, but for sure there will be gamblers not willing to admit that they are addicted and be called with that name. They are going to defend to death that they are not that kind of person, but instead just playing to have some fun. But we all know that it's not the case since addicted one has that psychology to not disclose everything.

So it's not only difficult to accept, but I think it will be offending too. And it's a sensitive matter, so I guess we just need to be very careful as this is a delicate. We don't know what will be their reaction is, if you call and identify them.
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June 24, 2023, 08:28:32 AM
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Any form of addiction would face a denial stage where they would neglect listening to opinions and observations by the people around them. Most of them are aware that they are spending too much time in gambling but they couldn't notice personally that they are really into gambling addiction. They will surely feel offended and will deny other people's observations as their defense but I don't think telling or informing them that they are already addicted to gambling would stop them from excessive playing.
To occasional gamblers, it will surely hurt their feelings unless it will be delivered in a good manner where they could also explain their side and defend themselves. Of course, most of us are protecting our image and being referred as a gambling addict is a heavy thing for us to bear.
Telling the person that he has a gambling addiction is necessary so that he can begin to change for the better. And even though he may get angry or deny or even distance himself from us, we should try to approach and tell him, especially if he is a family member. Who else will tell him and pull him out of gambling if not us? Maybe we need to find another approach that can make them open their minds and finally realize that they are already addicted to gambling and start looking for ways to overcome their gambling addiction.

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June 24, 2023, 09:08:10 AM
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Telling the person that he has a gambling addiction is necessary so that he can begin to change for the better.
We can't distory the reality if we're diagnosed or verified that we're addicted gamblers. But one thing that we can do is to deny that in front of those that have said. It's up to the person that's been said as an addicted gambler whether to admit that or not because we have no option but to accept the reality eventually.

And even though he may get angry or deny or even distance himself from us, we should try to approach and tell him, especially if he is a family member. Who else will tell him and pull him out of gambling if not us? Maybe we need to find another approach that can make them open their minds and finally realize that they are already addicted to gambling and start looking for ways to overcome their gambling addiction.
An addicted gambler will have to get the hard fact about himself, some may be in denial at first but the acceptance will come. Because he'll also see that there's something wrong with his attitude if a person addresses or is concern with his status.

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June 24, 2023, 02:41:56 PM
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Any form of addiction would face a denial stage where they would neglect listening to opinions and observations by the people around them. Most of them are aware that they are spending too much time in gambling but they couldn't notice personally that they are really into gambling addiction. They will surely feel offended and will deny other people's observations as their defense but I don't think telling or informing them that they are already addicted to gambling would stop them from excessive playing.
To occasional gamblers, it will surely hurt their feelings unless it will be delivered in a good manner where they could also explain their side and defend themselves. Of course, most of us are protecting our image and being referred as a gambling addict is a heavy thing for us to bear.
Telling the person that he has a gambling addiction is necessary so that he can begin to change for the better. And even though he may get angry or deny or even distance himself from us, we should try to approach and tell him, especially if he is a family member. Who else will tell him and pull him out of gambling if not us? Maybe we need to find another approach that can make them open their minds and finally realize that they are already addicted to gambling and start looking for ways to overcome their gambling addiction.

This is so on point.

If you really care for someone, you will point out their shortcomings so that they can do better. It will help them address the things that needs to be straightened in order to be the better version of themselves. But of course, it is needed that we do it in a caring and concern manner, not in an insulting and condescending way that they will feel bad about themselves. Because instead of helping out, you may come off as aggressive and bully to them that they have to avoid.
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June 24, 2023, 03:02:59 PM
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This is so on point.

If you really care for someone, you will point out their shortcomings so that they can do better. It will help them address the things that needs to be straightened in order to be the better version of themselves. But of course, it is needed that we do it in a caring and concern manner, not in an insulting and condescending way that they will feel bad about themselves.
There are times that we take it personally even if the person is just caring for us and telling us what we're at. Although the concern of those that addresses people who are really addicted in gambling and needs some control should be taken into account.

Because instead of helping out, you may come off as aggressive and bully to them that they have to avoid.
That's right, people are aggressive when they're being addressed but I think if I'll be called that, I can't also deny that I may feel the same thing as what the others feel that way.

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