⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[pawel7777]

Slightly off-top as this is not a Premier league game, but Man City noted another win yesterday against Watford at home in the EFL cup 3rd round match, winning 2-1.
Not a spectacular win, looking only at the score, but City has created a lot of chances and Watford was lucky to only lose 2 goals. Guardiola let some first squad players to take a rest and gave the bench a chance, which was a good move.

[SatoPrincess]

Slightly off-top as this is not a Premier league game, but Man City noted another win yesterday against Watford at home in the EFL cup 3rd round match, winning 2-1.
Not a spectacular win, looking only at the score, but City has created a lot of chances and Watford was lucky to only lose 2 goals. Guardiola let some first squad players to take a rest and gave the bench a chance, which was a good move.

There are not many teams that can compete against Manchester City. IMO Manchester City games are boring because their opponents have resigned their minds to play for at best a draw. I’m surprised you talked about the EFL and only mentioned Manchester City’s win. I think Arsenal’s 5-1 victory over Bolton is more current and should be talked about.

[blue Snow]

On this match week, there is a Manchester United v Tottenham match. What are your thoughts on it? Do you think Erik ten Hag will be one step closer to getting sacked? 

After this terrible start to the season, I really can't predict his future here. Jim Ratcliffe wanted to give him another chance but there is still no improvement. Tottenham are a really tough opponent. Even though they are in a similar situation, they are still a big challenge for ten Hag's team. To tell the truth, my choice for bets would be both teams to score. I wouldn't bet on a side. 

They just played a draw against Twente which means MU's performance is still not stable yet, Erik ten Hag must need strategy improvement to win the match on Old Trafford.  they haven't been able to find their best game plan like when destroyed 7-0 Barnsley on the league cup. We don't know what happen with them, even they were spent a lot of money in the transfer market, but their performance is the same like they don't have bought any new players. Both have the same record on Premier League which has 2 win, 2 lost and 1 draw on premier league, but Tottenham is better than MU on the last 2 matches. The spurs was able to create the winning on the last 2 match, and able to beat Coventry city away from home. I think draw is possible, but if MU's performance doesn't improve yet, Tottenham is possible to win the match with 1 goal difference.

[joniboini]

I think draw is possible, but if MU's performance doesn't improve yet, Tottenham is possible to win the match with 1 goal difference.

I think United plays well against Palace (at least for 1 hour or so), but they failed to convert their chances into goals. Can't blame the manager if the players don't perform at all. We can direct the blame to Ten Hag for his tactics or subs choice though. If he fails to win the next 4 matches or so, I think it's very likely that he will go in December. Don't know who can replace him and perform straight away in the EPL though.

I favor Spurs slightly, at least 55:45 for the next fixture. I believe Ange has a clearer identity compared to Ten Hag. That being said, their xGA is quite high at 1.00[1], although United is not that great either. United has a high xG if I remember correctly, but their goals are so few which means they failed to convert many good chances. Let's see if they can utilize Spurs' weakness or not this time. CMIIW.

[1] https://fbref.com/en/squads/361ca564/Tottenham-Hotspur-Stats

[Oluwa-btc]

On this match week, there is a Manchester United v Tottenham match. What are your thoughts on it? Do you think Erik ten Hag will be one step closer to getting sacked? 

After this terrible start to the season, I really can't predict his future here. Jim Ratcliffe wanted to give him another chance but there is still no improvement. Tottenham are a really tough opponent. Even though they are in a similar situation, they are still a big challenge for ten Hag's team. To tell the truth, my choice for bets would be both teams to score. I wouldn't bet on a side. 

Saw him through his first season, backed him through his second season bit damn man, I'm not doing that same shit this season. Though, I'm certain he's done better that Eddie Howe in the past two seasons but, it's high time Manchester United improves for real for real.
They're not so terrible but they should start winning games to shut up all of these criticisms from pundits, ex players, fans and sky sports.
Tottenham Hotspur are not even doing so well if you ask me, how well did they do against Arsenal? My lips are sealed of Erik Ten Hag do not get the necessary upgrades and improvements, them he should be shown the exit truthfully.

[tusandii]

There are not many teams that can compete against Manchester City. IMO Manchester City games are boring because their opponents have resigned their minds to play for at best a draw. I’m surprised you talked about the EFL and only mentioned Manchester City’s win. I think Arsenal’s 5-1 victory over Bolton is more current and should be talked about.

Arsenal's match looked so interesting with the many goals scored, a total of 6 goals in this match and Arsenal itself scored 5 goals and its opponent was only able to reply with 1 goal so that Arsenal was able to win with its own satisfaction.
But what I know is that Bolton is indeed in poor performance in league 1, he is ranked 19th and has suffered many defeats, so it is natural that Arsenal beat him with a landslide score.

[SmartCharpa]

On this match week, there is a Manchester United v Tottenham match. What are your thoughts on it? Do you think Erik ten Hag will be one step closer to getting sacked? 

After this terrible start to the season, I really can't predict his future here. Jim Ratcliffe wanted to give him another chance but there is still no improvement. Tottenham are a really tough opponent. Even though they are in a similar situation, they are still a big challenge for ten Hag's team. To tell the truth, my choice for bets would be both teams to score. I wouldn't bet on a side. 

Tottenham and Manchester United both have the same point and a 4 goal differential, however I don't think their situation is similar because Manchester United has struggled to score against any opponent this season. The management's obvious trust in Ten Hag's after their poor performances in the previous two seasons is very annoying, but I'll follow your predictions as well both teams will score, and it's not safe to pick a side in that match.

Slightly off-top as this is not a Premier league game, but Man City noted another win yesterday against Watford at home in the EFL cup 3rd round match, winning 2-1.
Not a spectacular win, looking only at the score, but City has created a lot of chances and Watford was lucky to only lose 2 goals. Guardiola let some first squad players to take a rest and gave the bench a chance, which was a good move.

Honestly, Manchester City could have scored more than two goals. Watford performed well defensively, preventing Manchester City from scoring goals. City dominated the match, with 73% ball possession, and 28 shots, 8 of them were on goal, and they only scored two goals. Although Watford was in the Premier League before being relegated in the last three seasons, finishing in 19th place, I believe that if Manchester City had started their first eleven players or didn't bench Haaland, they should have scored over two goals, but Guardiola allowed them to rest in a small game so they could face a big rival the weekend.

[JeffBrad12]

On this match week, there is a Manchester United v Tottenham match. What are your thoughts on it? Do you think Erik ten Hag will be one step closer to getting sacked? 

After this terrible start to the season, I really can't predict his future here. Jim Ratcliffe wanted to give him another chance but there is still no improvement. Tottenham are a really tough opponent. Even though they are in a similar situation, they are still a big challenge for ten Hag's team. To tell the truth, my choice for bets would be both teams to score. I wouldn't bet on a side. 

They just played a draw against Twente which means MU's performance is still not stable yet, Erik ten Hag must need strategy improvement to win the match on Old Trafford.  they haven't been able to find their best game plan like when destroyed 7-0 Barnsley on the league cup. We don't know what happen with them, even they were spent a lot of money in the transfer market, but their performance is the same like they don't have bought any new players. Both have the same record on Premier League which has 2 win, 2 lost and 1 draw on premier league, but Tottenham is better than MU on the last 2 matches. The spurs was able to create the winning on the last 2 match, and able to beat Coventry city away from home. I think draw is possible, but if MU's performance doesn't improve yet, Tottenham is possible to win the match with 1 goal difference.

Manchester United's performance is always like this, up and down. Even after they wasted 400 million buying the new players, they have not improved so far. They have no consistent style to control matches. Their subs often cause disarray. They also rarely make tactical tweaks to exploit opponents. They're cursed now.

The only solution is that Ten Hag out.

[bitcoin_mining]

On this match week, there is a Manchester United v Tottenham match. What are your thoughts on it? Do you think Erik ten Hag will be one step closer to getting sacked? 

After this terrible start to the season, I really can't predict his future here. Jim Ratcliffe wanted to give him another chance but there is still no improvement. Tottenham are a really tough opponent. Even though they are in a similar situation, they are still a big challenge for ten Hag's team. To tell the truth, my choice for bets would be both teams to score. I wouldn't bet on a side. 

Manchester United have been getting progressively worse under their current manager so there are a lot of rumors about the manager being sacked. The management knew in advance that if the team is played one more season under this manager then the condition of the team may be worse this season but still the management gave this manager a chance to serve one more season. Now if the management wants to fire this manager then they have to pay him for the whole season and if they want to hire a new manager they have to pay for the whole season. If Manchester United can afford this money, they may decide to fire the manager at any time, and Manchester United may have to play under this manager for one more season.

[ITExpert]

Slightly off-top as this is not a Premier league game, but Man City noted another win yesterday against Watford at home in the EFL cup 3rd round match, winning 2-1.
Not a spectacular win, looking only at the score, but City has created a lot of chances and Watford was lucky to only lose 2 goals. Guardiola let some first squad players to take a rest and gave the bench a chance, which was a good move.

If you look at their score, I think Manchester would have won it easily. Manchester's Jeremy Duco and Mathis Nunes scored twice for their side with good work and pace. Jérémy Doku who added to his tally by scoring the first goal in the first 5 minutes. And scored this goal with his hard work and strength.  And will continue to play with the same form and the Manchester team will be strong.  And on the other hand Watford's Tom Ince who scored in the 86th minute to no avail, could have scored a second goal if he had a bit of stamina.  But Manchester players won the match by more than 1 goal. Manchester is getting stronger day by day and these defeats are few and far between now.

[Velvet78]

When it comes to the Manchester United - Tottenham game at the weekend, the odds for the sides are like below.



Those are really close odds and tempting ones at the same time right?    People should keep in mind both teams are in similar conditions in the Premier League now. The same points, the only difference is the number of goals they have scored. Tottenham have been more productive with 4 more goals. Manchester United to this game with another draw in the Europa League this time.

Honestly I wouldn't bet on any side but if I would my choice would still be the Red Devils. They can be really unpredictable in big games. But my choice for this game is BTTS @1.41. 

[Oluwa-btc]

When it comes to the Manchester United - Tottenham game at the weekend, the odds for the sides are like below.



Those are really close odds and tempting ones at the same time right?    People should keep in mind both teams are in similar conditions in the Premier League now. The same points, the only difference is the number of goals they have scored. Tottenham have been more productive with 4 more goals. Manchester United to this game with another draw in the Europa League this time.

Honestly I wouldn't bet on any side but if I would my choice would still be the Red Devils. They can be really unpredictable in big games. But my choice for this game is BTTS @1.41. 

I have nothing to say about Erik Ten Hag no more, I'm gradually becoming tired like every other Manchester United fan who wants quick change because Manchester United has been known to be a very good side over the years truthfully.
Odds are not used to decide games you should have known better, we'll see how Tottenham Hotspur does tonight then, we can now judge how well they'll do against Manchester United on Sunday at  Old Trafford. Having Harry Maguire in the defense is something I don't want to see no more. Too much touches on the ball and has no pave, in between, a good short and close range passer of the ball. Both teams scoring could happen but it's a win or draw for Manchester United.

[RockBell]

Slightly off-top as this is not a Premier league game, but Man City noted another win yesterday against Watford at home in the EFL cup 3rd round match, winning 2-1.
Not a spectacular win, looking only at the score, but City has created a lot of chances and Watford was lucky to only lose 2 goals. Guardiola let some first squad players to take a rest and gave the bench a chance, which was a good move.

even if Manchester United has won they are not doing very well themself this season and I so much expect them to do better since they are the defending champions and the title might shift from their table i am trying to observe Arsenal this season because I am so much expecting a lot from them this season and also Liverpool so the title is still going to be around the top three this is something that has happened last season and it is still going to happen this season but with a different champion.

And City has always been lucky to have Foden in their team and also other great players and the first goal was almost lost yesterday Grealish gave a good assist, and this is Manchester City for you they will always want to win at the expense of everything pep did not take the game to be that serious and that should be the reason why pep was even allowing most of the first squad to rest. so that they will be able to partake in other serious games and that is one strategy that Pep will always pull out.

It was clear that Gues is out of the Manchester City League and we need to understand these things practically pep always knows what he is doing he as all the experience to make all the decisions he can to improve because even in the premier league they have not been able to make any crazy win so they are still hoping for arsenal.

[peter0425]

even if Manchester United has won they are not doing very well themself this season and I so much expect them to do better since they are the defending champions

You mean Manchester City, mate? Man City and Man united are two different football clubs though both from the same city. Anyway both top teams but it is Man city that is the defending champion and has been champions for the last 4 seasons. Entering this season, many expect them to take their 5th consecutive championship but all runs have an end. Will it be this season?

and the title might shift from their table i am trying to observe Arsenal this season

Arsenal was really close to beating Man City last season I feel like they can have a good chance this season. They also seem to be in pretty good shape winning a 5-1 against Bolton.

[fuguebtc]

What has the celebration of Alejandro Garnacho got to do with Erik Ten Hag? C'mon man, do better!! Erik Ten Hag has never done such a thing truthfully.
Pay attention to the images below and they're big chances missed by clubs isn the Premier League Competition ( Man United players not doing badly, they just need to be clinical with them finishing ).

Yes yes, I understand , but Ten Hag doesn't make it so obvious, let's remember everything that happened with CR7 , and I saw all that in several places, although things may be as you say, personally I do have a lot of ideas about Ten Hag because he has shown it and he doesn't like it when he is Exposed , however it is only with him , the MU is for me still a very good club , but they have to get what they have from the true Red Devils, at least from the times when there was the Ferguson era , with that great team that were scary , now the MU is not Scary , they see it as a team that they can take the points from , and it is not because of its players because they have a great squad , it is because of its Direction , it is so that at this point they are Placed in 1st or 2nd fighting side by side with City.

Let's not forget to give Erik Ten Hag his flowers when he deserves them. He has been tactically wonderful at times, but it is visible that the squad lacked consistency majorly. I think as much as I can credit Ten Hag for his tactical brilliance, his man management is poor, he also is bad at signing players and getting them accustomed to his style. The way the club plays most of their games does reflect the plan that ETH is trying to instill. But there are visible shortcomings, from the players, from the ideas.


After today's match against Twente, ETH tried to defend on press briefing.

I think ETH tries to do a lot of things, but not most of it gets reflected on the team. As much as we should criticize, there are times when the players do need to be held accountable and responsible for their shortcomings. He can teach them a lot of things but if they are unable to display the learnings on the field, it's not his fault, is it? The players need to be a lot more consistent and responsible. ManUtd also have a lot of players coming back next week, so I am sure they go back to winning ways now.

Source: ESPN

[Palakka]

even if Manchester United has won they are not doing very well themself this season and I so much expect them to do better since they are the defending champions

You mean Manchester City, mate? Man City and Man united are two different football clubs though both from the same city. Anyway both top teams but it is Man city that is the defending champion and has been champions for the last 4 seasons. Entering this season, many expect them to take their 5th consecutive championship but all runs have an end. Will it be this season?

and the title might shift from their table i am trying to observe Arsenal this season

Arsenal was really close to beating Man City last season I feel like they can have a good chance this season. They also seem to be in pretty good shape winning a 5-1 against Bolton.

Manchester City and Guardiola have set a new record as a team and coach who are able to win the English league in a row, we cannot deny that the once triumphant era of Manchester United has been replaced by their eternal rivals, but the extent to which Manchester City can to maintain their current glory after being involved in many cases, of course be difficult to answer.
But even so, we cannot deny that the glory that Manchester United once had before has sunk after Manchester City transformed as a rich team in Manchester.

The 2-2 draw with Manchester City in the previous game is our reference to say their chances of this season are better, but I think we can't expect too much from Arsenal to remember what happened last season, Arsenal were able to hold Manchester City with score 0-0  at the Etihad Stadium and beat them at the Emirates Stadium 1-0, But in reality, Arsenal actually slumped at the end of the season and handed over the championship trophy to Manchester City after they had been guarding it since the beginning of the season.

[minairia3]

The 2-2 draw with Manchester City in the previous game is our reference to say their chances of this season are better, but I think we can't expect too much from Arsenal to remember what happened last season, Arsenal were able to hold Manchester City with score 0-0  at the Etihad Stadium and beat them at the Emirates Stadium 1-0, But in reality, Arsenal actually slumped at the end of the season and handed over the championship trophy to Manchester City after they had been guarding it since the beginning of the season.

Arsenal's main weakness was that their bench team was not strong. The coach had very limited talent pool. So when a player suffers an injury, the coach does not have a qualified replacement. And this is why this team could not dominate the Premier League in the last two seasons. In the last two seasons, we have seen Arsenal's overall performance erratic whenever a key player in the squad suffered an injury. And Arsenal's bench team is not strong this season either. Arsenal's performance so far has been very consistent. However, I think Arsenal's performance will deteriorate if any key player in Arsenal's squad suffers from injury.

[Docnaster]

On this match week, there is a Manchester United v Tottenham match. What are your thoughts on it? Do you think Erik ten Hag will be one step closer to getting sacked? 

After this terrible start to the season, I really can't predict his future here. Jim Ratcliffe wanted to give him another chance but there is still no improvement. Tottenham are a really tough opponent. Even though they are in a similar situation, they are still a big challenge for ten Hag's team. To tell the truth, my choice for bets would be both teams to score. I wouldn't bet on a side. 

Tottenham Hotspur hasn't been consistent this season with their results but there's no doubting the fact that they've been a better team than Manchester United. We all saw how Dutch club Twente was able to get a draw last night against Manchester United so it's very possible for Tottenham who I think is better than Twente to go to Old Trafford this weekend and get a win.
Personally, I'll be happy to see Tottenham Hotspur defeat Manchester United so that the management of the Manchester club can finally show the club manager the exit door. Manchester United in my own opinion deserves a better manager than the Dutchman and the earlier they get him sacked, the better for the club.

[adultcrypto]

even if Manchester United has won they are not doing very well themself this season and I so much expect them to do better since they are the defending champions

You mean Manchester City, mate? Man City and Man united are two different football clubs though both from the same city. Anyway both top teams but it is Man city that is the defending champion and has been champions for the last 4 seasons. Entering this season, many expect them to take their 5th consecutive championship but all runs have an end. Will it be this season?

I think it was an innocent mistake from RockBell because Manchest United is far from winning the league and I think that should be the last thing on their mind now . When discussing the league winners, apart from Manchester City, clubs that comes to mind are Arsenal and Liverpool. Aston Villa will even be counted before Manchester United.

and the title might shift from their table i am trying to observe Arsenal this season

Arsenal was really close to beating Man City last season I feel like they can have a good chance this season. They also seem to be in pretty good shape winning a 5-1 against Bolton.

When it comes to Arsenal, Manchester City have not been finding it easy winning them for several of their meetings. That is to say that Arsenal have come to be established as their strongest rival especially from last season till date. Their two all draw last weekend was therefore, not a surprising result to me because I expected a very tight match just like we saw.

[hahay]

The 2-2 draw with Manchester City in the previous game is our reference to say their chances of this season are better, but I think we can't expect too much from Arsenal to remember what happened last season, Arsenal were able to hold Manchester City with score 0-0  at the Etihad Stadium and beat them at the Emirates Stadium 1-0, But in reality, Arsenal actually slumped at the end of the season and handed over the championship trophy to Manchester City after they had been guarding it since the beginning of the season.

Arsenal's main weakness was that their bench team was not strong. The coach had very limited talent pool. So when a player suffers an injury, the coach does not have a qualified replacement. And this is why this team could not dominate the Premier League in the last two seasons. In the last two seasons, we have seen Arsenal's overall performance erratic whenever a key player in the squad suffered an injury. And Arsenal's bench team is not strong this season either. Arsenal's performance so far has been very consistent. However, I think Arsenal's performance will deteriorate if any key player in Arsenal's squad suffers from injury.

Don't just judge it from the negative side because in fact, Arsenal under Arteta has managed to become a team that is consistent at the top of the standings. Not only that, in fact last season regarding the trophy-winning team, it was actually determined in the last match between Manchester City and Arsenal, but Manchester City still managed to get the trophy. But even so, Arsenal remains a strong team in the fight for trophies at least in the last two seasons.

Although Arsenal still failed to win the trophy, in fact Arteta managed to make Arsenal dominate the Premier League throughout the season and of course that is an impressive achievement. Because after all, the competition in the Premier League  has proven to have very tough  competition compared to other leagues, but Arsenal managed to make it difficult for Manchester City to get the trophy and that is also a good achievement for Arsenal.