⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Hanadawa]

-snip-This season I wonder whether there will be a 3rd team joining this race. Maybe Liverpool or Arsenal. What is your opinion on the topic? 

Arsenal and City have been consistent in the last two seasons and they have always competed for the EPL title even though in the end Arsenal could not maintain their performance in the last few matches. I think this season both teams will also compete again. I still can't find a third team to compete with City and Arsenal. But the most likely to be the third competitor is Liverpool. I thought their performance would decline this season because of the change of coach. But it turned out they were able to perform solidly and only conceded 1 goal so far. Chelsea and Aston Villa will be competitors in the UCL zone. IMO They still don't have the capacity to be title contenders this season.

[Xcode7]

-snip-This season I wonder whether there will be a 3rd team joining this race. Maybe Liverpool or Arsenal. What is your opinion on the topic? 

Arsenal and City have been consistent in the last two seasons and they have always competed for the EPL title even though in the end Arsenal could not maintain their performance in the last few matches. I think this season both teams will also compete again. I still can't find a third team to compete with City and Arsenal. But the most likely to be the third competitor is Liverpool. I thought their performance would decline this season because of the change of coach. But it turned out they were able to perform solidly and only conceded 1 goal so far. Chelsea and Aston Villa will be competitors in the UCL zone. IMO They still don't have the capacity to be title contenders this season.

Liverpool with its new coach I think can not be underestimated and among the other teams only Liverpool has a large percentage to be able to enter with Arsenal and Manchester City to compete for the Premier League title this season so in my opinion if not Liverpool then there is no other team and we will see only two teams competing like what happened last season.
The Premier League teams are quite difficult to predict at the beginning of this season because with all the improvements anything is possible in the middle of the season.
And personally I want the title competition to be much fiercer this season and I hope Liverpool can do that.

[bitcampaign]

-snip-This season I wonder whether there will be a 3rd team joining this race. Maybe Liverpool or Arsenal. What is your opinion on the topic? 

Arsenal and City have been consistent in the last two seasons and they have always competed for the EPL title even though in the end Arsenal could not maintain their performance in the last few matches. I think this season both teams will also compete again. I still can't find a third team to compete with City and Arsenal. But the most likely to be the third competitor is Liverpool. I thought their performance would decline this season because of the change of coach. But it turned out they were able to perform solidly and only conceded 1 goal so far. Chelsea and Aston Villa will be competitors in the UCL zone. IMO They still don't have the capacity to be title contenders this season.

Liverpool with its new coach I think can not be underestimated and among the other teams only Liverpool has a large percentage to be able to enter with Arsenal and Manchester City to compete for the Premier League title this season so in my opinion if not Liverpool then there is no other team and we will see only two teams competing like what happened last season.
The Premier League teams are quite difficult to predict at the beginning of this season because with all the improvements anything is possible in the middle of the season.
And personally I want the title competition to be much fiercer this season and I hope Liverpool can do that.

It seems like the strongest candidate for this season Liverpool could be a new threat to Man City who are still the defending champions in the last two seasons, I am sure with their trust with the presence of a new coach who I think has made many changes from Kloop's departure and tactics in the game are very much in accordance with the style of play of Kloop's previous team, So Liverpool Coach only needs to polish the game a little and add players who he thinks are lacking in several lines, the entry of Federico Chiesa in Liverpool's front line adds new ammunition in the front sector and that means Liverpool's front line is getting sharper.

[Alpha Marine]

BTW, regarding the upcoming match, it is likely that betting on over 3.5 is my choice with odds @2.06.

Their games are usually filled with a lot of goals. There is even a chance this game might end 2-2 or 3-3, so I thing the over 3.5 option is a nice one considering how big the odd is.  But we have to consider that Manchester United doesn't concede much goals now, they conceded more than 2 goals last against Liverpool and against a very good defense, they find it difficult to score. The defense of Manchester United has improved but their midfield and attack is not so good.

Tottenham on the other hand dint mind conceding goals, they keep a very huge line and they know how to score too. This makes they favourites for this game but I can't bet on them. I think I'll follow your suggestion and go with over 3.5 goals.

[legendbtc]

In addition to the match between Newcastle vs Manchester City, of course the Manchester United vs Tottenham match will be another bigmatch that we should look forward to, so far the two teams have had a season with inconsistencies that make them currently in the 7th and 8th in the Premier League standings, in terms of team quality, of course, the Red Devils are still better than Tottenham Hotspurs but in terms of performance and also sharpness it is clear that Lilywhite is still very good,  After getting a draw from Crystal Palace in the previous match they are still continuing the negative trend when facing Twente in the Europa League and it clearly shows that Ten Hag has not been able to improve the problems that exist at Manchester United at the moment, so I think it is very likely that Tottenham will destroy them at Old Trafford later, currently both teams have only get 7 points from 2 wins,  1 draw and 2 lost, So that it shows a balanced performance between the two, but if you look at the number of goals scored by the two teams at the moment, then it can be said that Tottenham is still superior to the Red Devils.

My prediction Manchester United 1 vs 2 Tottenham Hotspur

I don't know why Manchester United is underestimated in this match, Tottenham mostly win because they play in their home, according to head to head, when the match held in Old Trafford, the results either Manchester United won or draw.

Both of the teams didn't lose their important players, so I predict Manchester United will win.

Although they were lose against FC Twente, but we should judge their performance in Premier League.

MU and Tottenham are showing mediocre performances as both have only earned 7 points after 5 rounds in the Premier League 2024/25. When the correlation between the two sides is not too different, the homh-field factor will most likely make a difference, allowing MU to earn all 3 points from Spurs. But my faith in MU has "hit rock bottom", this team often makes it impossible for opponents to respond with fiery play or surprise. On the contrary, when victories come to MU more often, it is also the time when they easily stumble in inexplicable ways. In short, Coach Ten Hag's MU is truly a very unpredictable team. So I don't know what face they will show in this match.

But anyway, Ten Hag needs a win to help his team relieve mental pressure, as well as reduce the heat on his seat at Old Trafford. If MU loses this match, I think Ten Hag's dismissal will not be far away.

[emrecemsan]

Manchester United's performance is always like this, up and down. Even after they wasted 400 million buying the new players, they have not improved so far. They have no consistent style to control matches. Their subs often cause disarray. They also rarely make tactical tweaks to exploit opponents. They're cursed now.

The only solution is that Ten Hag out.

Exactly it is for I don't know how many years... Spending tons of money doesn't help success to be achieved either. To tell the truth, I think Erik ten Hag deserves all the criticism on him.

You have bought so many players for insane sum of money but still no progress? It is like a joke. He said he wasn't magician. Yes, nobody is. But after spending that much money you should know that you have a big responsibility. If you can't improve even a bit then goodbye! 

I don't have anything personal against him. I just talk according to the results so far.

[Marvelockg]

-snip-This season I wonder whether there will be a 3rd team joining this race. Maybe Liverpool or Arsenal. What is your opinion on the topic? 

Arsenal and City have been consistent in the last two seasons and they have always competed for the EPL title even though in the end Arsenal could not maintain their performance in the last few matches. I think this season both teams will also compete again. I still can't find a third team to compete with City and Arsenal. But the most likely to be the third competitor is Liverpool. I thought their performance would decline this season because of the change of coach. But it turned out they were able to perform solidly and only conceded 1 goal so far. Chelsea and Aston Villa will be competitors in the UCL zone. IMO They still don't have the capacity to be title contenders this season.

till other teams step up regarding how they take games seriously, the league is going to revolve around man city, arsenal, Liverpool and others. Apart from this three, no other team is qualified or looks ready show that they have what it takes to win the League. Man United that was a one time serious team to look out for as a potential contender for the league has faded off and is no longer doing well again. Chelsea has gone average and and is currently on a stage where they are only building the team for what they can become in the future. Tottenham can't come near and the rest are just bunch of inconsistent teams thG haven't grown too well in terms of her winning mentality.

If fatigue becomes an issue for man city and more of thier players get injured because of the series of games they have at hand in addition to thier intention of trying to win both in the UCL and premier league,  it will give any team that's ready to fight for the at least the top four spot a slight chance. With thier last draw that has opened up opportunity for Liverpool, arsenal, Chelsea and Aston Villa,  with an added concentration, one of these teams that's iether Chelsea or Aston Villa can break into the top four.

[kawetsriyanto]

Arsenal and City have been consistent in the last two seasons and they have always competed for the EPL title even though in the end Arsenal could not maintain their performance in the last few matches.

You're right. In the last 2 seasons, Man City and Arsenal always joined the race for the title. Besides the factor of squad quality, these teams also have smart coaches who are proven their capability. Unfortunately Arsenal seems not having a very good squad depth, that's why they were always beaten by Man City. The problem of Arsenal is in their inconsistency and has no sharp striker. If Arsenal has a strong striker like Haaland, I think they can win the EPL title.

I still can't find a third team to compete with City and Arsenal. But the most likely to be the third competitor is Liverpool. I thought their performance would decline this season because of the change of coach. But it turned out they were able to perform solidly and only conceded 1 goal so far. Chelsea and Aston Villa will be competitors in the UCL zone. IMO They still don't have the capacity to be title contenders this season.

I think it is quite clear that Liverpool to be the 3rd candidate of the champion. Although Liverpool changes the coach, it seems not to bring very big impacts. Liverpool looks still performing quite well. By the way, I am not really sure with Aston Villa and Chelsea, these teams are unpredictable. I suspect they are possible to decrease their performance when they are facing big teams.

[X-ray]

I think the next match versus Newcastle, Manchester City will play all out to return their draw last week. As we know, the previous match it really frustrates them to get the winning with a parking bus strategy arsenal. They are not have a problem to carry out newcastle on their home because when we look head to head on previous session, Manc City just win all the matches. But we don't know how their performance without Rodry because he was get the injury in the previous match. he is a manc city core player as an anchor to supply the ball from back to attacker. so Rodry position is likely to be filled by another player which means Pep will implementing a new scheme to cover the gap.

I think, you should not use last season's head-to-head. It won't help predict the result of the upcoming game. This is because injuries is becoming a huge issue for City. They missed KDB and Bobb that helped them against Newcastle last season. Both players out this time due to their injuries.

They will be performing with the different squad than last season. Also, missing Rodri worsens their situation. Though, Kova and Gundo can replace him. They are capable players.

[Palakka]

Manchester United's performance is always like this, up and down. Even after they wasted 400 million buying the new players, they have not improved so far. They have no consistent style to control matches. Their subs often cause disarray. They also rarely make tactical tweaks to exploit opponents. They're cursed now.

The only solution is that Ten Hag out.

Exactly it is for I don't know how many years... Spending tons of money doesn't help success to be achieved either. To tell the truth, I think Erik ten Hag deserves all the criticism on him.

You have bought so many players for insane sum of money but still no progress? It is like a joke. He said he wasn't magician. Yes, nobody is. But after spending that much money you should know that you have a big responsibility. If you can't improve even a bit then goodbye!  

I don't have anything personal against him. I just talk according to the results so far.

Manchester United really slumped during ten hag coaching and strangely they still keep him as a coach, I think after spending a lot of money we should be able to see Manchester United can a contender for the Premier League title, but in fact every season ten Hag keeps saying that they are in the transition process to cover up every his failure and I don't know when the transition is over .
Maybe the sacking of ten hag or a change of coach would be a good solution although it may not guarantee Manchester United a chance to win the current title, because since Ferguson retirement prescisly they has changed coaches often and none of those coaches has been able to get the EPL trophy for Manchester United despite the improvement in performance,

[Baki202]

I won't say Tottenham can defeat Manchester United but if Tottenham wins the game it should not be a surprise to us because we all know that Manchester United is not a team that people can trust and believe that they will win the game, Manchester united performance both premier league and Europa league is so bad, Manchester united last game against Fc twente was very poor because Manchester united can not defeat that small team and win the game to get 3 points.

it is going to be an important task that Tottenham will be able to defeat Manchester United i love interactions like this because there is going to be a lot of arguments and we know that Tottenham can be tough sometimes. but what I want to know from Manchester United is going to get what they want by beating Manchester United and they start to claim their self by winning Tottenham because their condition is not even better at all. at least Chelsea is currently better than Manchester United, Europa is even better than the premier league and that is one of the reasons that make people think that Tottenham  is going to beat Manchester United and it is very possible because their condition is just too bad and i dont know maybe till they sack ten that is when everything will get back in place but that will be around next season

But If Manchester United did not sack Erik ten Hag in January next year and got another coach when the transfer window opened the team would have ended up in relegation position at the end of the season because having a coach like Erik ten Hag doesn't know how to use the player's is like wasting the team effort, Manchester united president needs to look at the other team and how they are doing when they sack the coach that can not help the team, but if Manchester United fans are happy with him then no problem they are the one that will not be happy when the team is playing, and also about the upcoming of Manchester united against Tottenham I don't think Manchester united can win because Tottenham performance is better than Manchester United this season.

I now feel that this will be only remaining option is that they have to sack ten because the club is not even moving forward, their performance keeps getting bad because of how they are not been properly managed, is use is not been seen right now and we know what the result will be like, and Manchester United are just trying to consider ten more times and they still want to consider. I trust Chelsea if they are not getting what they want they will have sacked ten for a long time, they are just looking for ways to manage how bad the club has gone so there is no way that this will continue, so this is a matter of time before they sack him.

[hahay]

BTW, regarding the upcoming match, it is likely that betting on over 3.5 is my choice with odds @2.06.

Their games are usually filled with a lot of goals. There is even a chance this game might end 2-2 or 3-3, so I thing the over 3.5 option is a nice one considering how big the odd is.  But we have to consider that Manchester United doesn't concede much goals now, they conceded more than 2 goals last against Liverpool and against a very good defense, they find it difficult to score. The defense of Manchester United has improved but their midfield and attack is not so good.

Tottenham on the other hand dint mind conceding goals, they keep a very huge line and they know how to score too. This makes they favourites for this game but I can't bet on them. I think I'll follow your suggestion and go with over 3.5 goals.

Manchester United and Tottenham are currently tied on seven points, but Tottenham have more goals than Manchester United. So far Tottenham has nine goals and conceded five, but Manchester United has five goals and conceded five and thus, Tottenham is still better than Manchester United but with such results it will also certainly be difficult to determine the winning team in this match.

About over 3.5 goals it is still possible, but the concern is if they can play with a good defense, then I personally still doubt that the goal option. Because in some moments they also get deadlocked quite often, so they are also unable to make many goals. Thus, it seems like it would be better for me to choose Tottenham in this match, even if only with the asian handicap option or other option too.

[pawel7777]

Maybe the sacking of ten hag or a change of coach would be a good solution although it may not guarantee Manchester United a chance to win the current title, because since Ferguson retirement prescisly they has changed coaches often and none of those coaches has been able to get the EPL trophy for Manchester United despite the improvement in performance,

I was really surprised they didn't sack Ten Hag last season, I assumed it must've been due to them being unable to secure a suitable replacement. But there's no way he'll keep his job after this season unless he somehow manages to radically improve the style, which I don't think he will.

I didn't even realise it was already a decade since they won the Premier League for the last time. It's almost like there's some post-Ferguson curse going on. In their defence, Man City really improved and is now eating their lunch.
Man United is still in the top when it comes to club's worth - either 2nd or 3rd, depending on whether we're looking at revenue or net assets etc. But if they don't start to be successful again, their revenue will be slowly deteriorating and they risk of permanently becoming a mediocre club. A lot of their merchandise is sold to tourists and fans from abroad, who are not the most loyal (why would they be loyal to the club from a city they have nothing to do with?) and coul turn their back on the club and shift their interest elsewhere if they don't see any progress.

[SOKO-DEKE]

I won't say Tottenham can defeat Manchester United but if Tottenham wins the game it should not be a surprise to us because we all know that Manchester United is not a team that people can trust and believe that they will win the game, Manchester united performance both premier league and Europa league is so bad, Manchester united last game against Fc twente was very poor because Manchester united can not defeat that small team and win the game to get 3 points.

The both teams' performances are not that good, but from my observations, it seems that Tottenham is a little bit more in form than Manchester United. Games like this are always very hard to predict; in this match, any team is a favorite to win. Again, it's a big match, and each team will want to win. Let’s see what will happen, but I still see Tottenham as the team that may have a little more chance to win because they look better in attacking than Manchester United.

But If Manchester United did not sack Erik ten Hag in January next year and got another coach when the transfer window opened the team would have ended up in relegation position at the end of the season because having a coach like Erik ten Hag doesn't know how to use the player's is like wasting the team effort, Manchester united president needs to look at the other team and how they are doing when they sack the coach that can not help the team, but if Manchester United fans are happy with him then no problem they are the one that will not be happy when the team is playing, and also about the upcoming of Manchester united against Tottenham I don't think Manchester united can win because Tottenham performance is better than Manchester United this season.

Erik ten Hag is not really doing well at Manchester United. Manchester have given him much time, but still, it can improve. Honestly, Manchester United need to sack him and get another head coach. Erik ten Hag truly deserves to be sacked with his poor records at Manchester United. I really respected Erik ten Hag before, but now I don't respect him anymore. If Manchester United want to improve, they need to get another coach to replace Erik ten Hag. Manchester United may not get relegated, but they will always be ending the season in a position they don't like.

[CLS63]

What do you mean by a 3rd team joining the race for the league title. Arsenal are already up there with Manchester City as the most consistent team in the EPL. So if you’re talking about 3rd place, Arsenal shouldn’t be in that group. Arsenal have been the only team competing against Manchester City for the league in the last two seasons. We saw how City struggled against Arsenal’s 10 man squad during the weekend, Arteta has proved to be a great rival for Guardiola.

Maybe Liverpool or Chelsea can be considered for third place this season. 

No, I didn't want to mean the 3rd place. I mean another team to join between Manchester City - Arsenal in the title race. I also wanted to mean Chelsea or Liverpool to do that. But it is hard to be confident of any of them for now. Liverpool didn't make any transfer other than Chiesa as far as I can remember. Arne Slot is doing well with the same squad anyway but we will see what he will do in the critical times.

And Chelsea are also slowly standing up with their new manager. They have too many players in their squad at the same time. Enzo Maresca has a tough job to do about satisfying their expectations.

[Furious 7]

-snip-This season I wonder whether there will be a 3rd team joining this race. Maybe Liverpool or Arsenal. What is your opinion on the topic? 

Arsenal and City have been consistent in the last two seasons and they have always competed for the EPL title even though in the end Arsenal could not maintain their performance in the last few matches. I think this season both teams will also compete again. I still can't find a third team to compete with City and Arsenal. But the most likely to be the third competitor is Liverpool. I thought their performance would decline this season because of the change of coach. But it turned out they were able to perform solidly and only conceded 1 goal so far. Chelsea and Aston Villa will be competitors in the UCL zone. IMO They still don't have the capacity to be title contenders this season.

The hope will continue like that, regardless of the title that will be owned, competition must continue to exist, especially for now there must be one club that breaks the dominance of Manchester City because they have been too long at the top of the standings and become champions considering that from now on 4 consecutive seasons they always get the trophy.

But outside of these 2 clubs I also still give great hope to Liverpool with their new coach even though I don't feel that Liverpool will reach a similar condition in the Klopp era at the beginning of the Slot coming but it looks like they are also doing very good things and deserve to be in the competition this season.

The first 5 weeks of the season are passed and the points are actually still very tight at the top because Manchester City who are at the top of the standings are only 3 points away from Chelsea and Newcastle who are in 5th and 6th positions so the EPL will still continue to be interesting in terms of competition for the start of the season.

[irhact]

Erik ten Hag is not really doing well at Manchester United. Manchester have given him much time, but still, it can improve. Honestly, Manchester United need to sack him and get another head coach. Erik ten Hag truly deserves to be sacked with his poor records at Manchester United. I really respected Erik ten Hag before, but now I don't respect him anymore. If Manchester United want to improve, they need to get another coach to replace Erik ten Hag. Manchester United may not get relegated, but they will always be ending the season in a position they don't like.

Erik ten hag is going to be the downfall of Manchester United, he isn't bringing the best out of the players but instead having issues with every player. That's not how a manager is supposed to be behaving with his players, if he has an issue with any of them, he doesn't need to correct them in public but can take it private so that the player can have some level of respect for him and not make the players to become defensive and wants to protect their own image therefore making it look like the manager doesn't know what he's doing. The players are slowly losing trust in the manager and this will make them to not be playing for him and want him out of the club.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Let's not forget to give Erik Ten Hag his flowers when he deserves them. He has been tactically wonderful at times, but it is visible that the squad lacked consistency majorly. I think as much as I can credit Ten Hag for his tactical brilliance, his man management is poor, he also is bad at signing players and getting them accustomed to his style. The way the club plays most of their games does reflect the plan that ETH is trying to instill. But there are visible shortcomings, from the players, from the ideas.

I don't know, go watch something, the team that hasn't done very well for more than 3 seasons, at first when CR7 was there all the blame went to him, now that he's gone and he has a good squad, why are the players good and they haven't done anything? I don't think it's the players, the players are very good, but they can't do anything outside of the strategy that he imposes, in case one of them does something brilliant he won't like it because it goes outside of his formation or strategy, so that's the bad thing, no matter how much ESPN says it, when a team loses a lot they take out the coach and almost all of the time he is the solution, in fact I am 100% sure that if they take out Ten Hag they will start to have better results.

[coinlocket$]

Big BAD news for Guardiola and Manchester City.
The season for Rodri is over.
HE suffered a big ACL injury so it will be atleast 6 months plus rehabilitation.

IT is rumored that the injury it may be cause by the national games with his national team.

[Obim34]

BTW, regarding the upcoming match, it is likely that betting on over 3.5 is my choice with odds @2.06.

Their games are usually filled with a lot of goals. There is even a chance this game might end 2-2 or 3-3, so I thing the over 3.5 option is a nice one considering how big the odd is.  But we have to consider that Manchester United doesn't concede much goals now, they conceded more than 2 goals last against Liverpool and against a very good defense, they find it difficult to score. The defense of Manchester United has improved but their midfield and attack is not so good.

Tottenham on the other hand dint mind conceding goals, they keep a very huge line and they know how to score too. This makes they favourites for this game but I can't bet on them. I think I'll follow your suggestion and go with over 3.5 goals.

Manchester United and Tottenham are currently tied on seven points, but Tottenham have more goals than Manchester United. So far Tottenham has nine goals and conceded five, but Manchester United has five goals and conceded five and thus, Tottenham is still better than Manchester United but with such results it will also certainly be difficult to determine the winning team in this match.

About over 3.5 goals it is still possible, but the concern is if they can play with a good defense, then I personally still doubt that the goal option. Because in some moments they also get deadlocked quite often, so they are also unable to make many goals. Thus, it seems like it would be better for me to choose Tottenham in this match, even if only with the asian handicap option or other option too.

Manchester United are really struggling from the way they have played few of their matches, next fixture against Tottenham should be a tough one, likely Tottenham is also having a bad season so far which makes the outcome of the game not easily predictable. Both team has a weak defense but yet no clinical in front of the goal post, this as well gives the impression of them not being able to play on Over 3.5 but perhaps, anything can change in their attacking force on that day just like what happened to Jackson scoring a brace against West Ham. Manchester United might have the win or at least a result of Over 1.5 or Over 2.5 (on the rough) just to be on the safe side.