⚽ FIFA U-17 World Cup Discussion Thread ⚽

[rendravolt]

Indonesia was reportedly very well prepared when they were appointed as the host for the U-20 World Cup agenda. but failed due to some problem. FIFA saw how enthusiastic the Indonesian people were who were crazy about football. FIFA had expressed its disappointment at canceling the U-20 World Cup in Indonesia because it saw how enthusiastic Indonesian supporters were during the friendly match with Argentina.

now with the FIFA U-17 World Cup agenda which will be held in Indonesia. they have high hopes for the success of this agenda. FIFA assesses that Indonesia has a proper and magnificent stadium for the implementation of this agenda. let's see how the preparation of the host Indonesia, not only in their facilities. but also from the readiness of their team to face strong European teams.

There were many unexpected events during the appointment to host the U20 world cup which ultimately made Indonesia fail to host, of course this was enough to make the Indonesian national team players very disappointed even though they had prepared everything before that day arrived. However, with Argentina being chosen as the new host for the U20 world cup, Indonesia will certainly get the advantage, one of which is being able to hold a friendly match against the 2022 world cup champions.

Apart from all that, now Indonesia has been re-elected as the host for the U17 world cup which makes Indonesia have full responsibility for the event this time. The enthusiasm of the Indonesian public is indeed extraordinary for football, especially this is an international competition involving various countries around the world. For stadiums in Indonesia, some of them have met FIFA standards and for sure it will be a suitable stadium for participants later.

Maybe there was a problem with the main stadium which is likely to be the venue for the U17 world cup final later, namely the Gelora Bung Karno Stadium, which had previously been booked for concerts by foreign bands and maybe this would cause friction between the organizers and the football associations in Indonesia to determine who has the right to use the stadium. Considering that this is an international competition, Indonesia certainly wants the stadium to be the final of the U17 World Cup final.

[Luzin]

Actually, it is quite surprising that FIFA appointed Indonesia as the host, hopefully, the organizers can prepare everything well so that the implementation is successful and can raise the name of Indonesia so that when running for other tournaments it can be calculated properly.

Indonesia is ready for facilities and stadiums. Remember Indonesia was once beaten for the U20 world cup, but it was canceled. Later it was replaced by Argentina. So I think there will be no big problem obstacles, even Indonesia has successfully invited Argentina, and so far there have been no complaints from them. I think four months is enough time to perfect the pitch and support facilities. In the U20 world cup, Indonesia has prepared and verified by FIFA. So this will only continue for the U17 World Cup.

[piebeyb]

I don't see the development of football in Indonesia so far for the national team, moreover I haven't really seen the team that will be prepared from Indonesia for this match, of course they are young players and haven't seen the quality of the playing style as well as others, but if this event is held in sports betting site looks interesting to bet looking for experience in youth sports betting.

After failing to host the U20s, at least Indonesia can get the chance for the U17 world cup, can't wait to see Indonesia's readiness to host later, even though I don't see great players there that I know, but here I support young players to develop and become the best players they can be. will be pulled into the national team in the future. 

[AakZaki]

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now with the FIFA U-17 World Cup agenda which will be held in Indonesia. they have high hopes for the success of this agenda. FIFA assesses that Indonesia has a proper and magnificent stadium for the implementation of this agenda. let's see how the preparation of the host Indonesia, not only in their facilities. but also from the readiness of their team to face strong European teams.

This is special, I hope Indonesia will no longer be canceled in holding big events. I hope no political interest is created to derail a major FIFA event. Of course my hope is that Indonesia can reach the knockout phase. I was a little hesitant, because Indonesia's posture tends to be small and loses in physical battles. I saw it happen when the Indonesian U-20 players were preparing against a country like France. But I hope with four months they can minimize that gap with a one-two touch game. Just like Barcelona.

[Sarah Azhari]

After failing to host the U20s, at least Indonesia can get the chance for the U17 world cup, can't wait to see Indonesia's readiness to host later, even though I don't see great players there that I know, but here I support young players to develop and become the best players they can be. will be pulled into the national team in the future. 

Don't expect too much because if they lost you don't lose too much money. I know how the Indonesian team plays and how they nurture young players educated, it's not like another country where spend a lot of money to talent the young player. In Indonesia, they did it half measures like budget, facility, and player needs, Because of that we can see they lost every game, It's just luck if we can see Indonesia Football Team can bring the champions like Sea Games some time ago. I'm more to be realistic now, If they can pass just the group stage is a great achievement, and can bring a new spirit to rise the young player in the future.

[Sithara007]

Don't expect too much because if they lost you don't lose too much money. I know how the Indonesian team plays and how they nurture young players educated, it's not like another country where spend a lot of money to talent the young player. In Indonesia, they did it half measures like budget, facility, and player needs, Because of that we can see they lost every game, It's just luck if we can see Indonesia Football Team can bring the champions like Sea Games some time ago. I'm more to be realistic now, If they can pass just the group stage is a great achievement, and can bring a new spirit to rise the young player in the future.

Should not be too difficult for them to get past the group phase. This is a U-17 tournament and almost all of the players will be competing outside their home country for the first time. And home advantage can make a big difference. On top of that, European and American teams are going to struggle, to get adjusted to the hot and humid conditions in Indonesia. But in order to make a better prediction we need to know more about their opponents. That is not possible now, because at this point we don't know which are the other teams in Group A.

[Luzin]

More than 4 months to go, but I can see that a lot of interest is there. And the schedule is not yet out (it will be known only by August). One thing that I liked about this tournament is that they have given equal importance to all the confederations. There are 5 participants from AFC(including the hosts), 4 each from CAF, CONCACAF, CONMEBOL and 2 from OFC. UEFA is restricted to 5 teams. A lot of people are going to complain that UEFA is under-represented, but I am quite OK with the current setup. They can't increase the number of participants anymore (this is a U-17 tournament) and need to give enough representation to all the confederations.

The drawing of the group division is still carried out around November-December which is a long time. In addition, Indonesia has also not announced the stadium that will be used for the group stage until the final. But if you look at the U20 World Cup preparations that were canceled, there are six stadium names chosen.
1. Jakabaring Stadium (Palembang)
2. Gelora Karno Main Stadium (Jakarta)
3. Si Jalak Harupat Stadium (Bandung)
4. Manahan Stadium (Solo)
5. Gelora Tomo Stadium (Surabaya)
6. Captain I Wayan Dipta Stadium (Gianyar, Bali)
Maybe this could be Indonesia's choice because they have been preparing it for the U20 World Cup which was canceled.

Source: https://indonesiabaik.id/infografis/enam-stadion-yang-digunakan-piala-dunia-u-20-di-indonesia

[rozak]

More than 4 months to go, but I can see that a lot of interest is there. And the schedule is not yet out (it will be known only by August). One thing that I liked about this tournament is that they have given equal importance to all the confederations. There are 5 participants from AFC(including the hosts), 4 each from CAF, CONCACAF, CONMEBOL and 2 from OFC. UEFA is restricted to 5 teams. A lot of people are going to complain that UEFA is under-represented, but I am quite OK with the current setup. They can't increase the number of participants anymore (this is a U-17 tournament) and need to give enough representation to all the confederations.

The drawing of the group division is still carried out around November-December which is a long time. In addition, Indonesia has also not announced the stadium that will be used for the group stage until the final. But if you look at the U20 World Cup preparations that were canceled, there are six stadium names chosen.
1. Jakabaring Stadium (Palembang)
2. Gelora Karno Main Stadium (Jakarta)
3. Si Jalak Harupat Stadium (Bandung)
4. Manahan Stadium (Solo)
5. Gelora Tomo Stadium (Surabaya)
6. Captain I Wayan Dipta Stadium (Gianyar, Bali)
Maybe this could be Indonesia's choice because they have been preparing it for the U20 World Cup which was canceled.

Source: https://indonesiabaik.id/infografis/enam-stadion-yang-digunakan-piala-dunia-u-20-di-indonesia

I think the selection of Indonesia as the host is not only due to the cancelation of the U-20 World Cup in Indonesia and now at U-17 instead. FIFA sees that Indonesia has a ready stadium that can be used. and I think it just needs some fixing and re-checking of FIFA for its readiness.
from a stadium point of view, I'm sure there won't be any problems. the most important thing is that there is no political chaos in Indonesia that could disrupt the implementation from a security perspective. the fight will begin closer to the democratic party in Indonesia.
This is a big event, I hope that all people and the government can unite to launch and succeed in the Indonesian U-17 World Cup.

[MAAManda]

Talking about favorites, I don't know which team to favorite because Indonesia (my country) will also be playing in this tournament. Of course, there's no doubt that I will favor Indonesia regardless of whether they are a weak or strong team.

Same, I will also favor my beloved country, Indonesia. Previously, the Indonesia youth national team successfully won the U-16 AFF Cup last year, I think the squad Indonesia U-17 this years will be filled with young players who have won achievements at that time.
But in reality it will be very tough for Indonesia, because reigning champions Brazil will probably have a higher chance to win the title, considering their are also having produced a lot of professional players.

Hoping that Indonesia can win an international tournament is a very utopian thought, I favor Indonesia because I'm part of them, of course, if not us, who else will be their favourite? can't be people from other countries, right? FYI, Nigeria didn't succeed in qualifying for the u-17 world cup this time, even though they're the team that has won the most u-17 world titles (5 times).

There is no FIFA U-21 world cup. We have U-17 and U-20 world cups.

Thanks for the correction, mate. You're right

[Pandu Geddon]

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now with the FIFA U-17 World Cup agenda which will be held in Indonesia. they have high hopes for the success of this agenda. FIFA assesses that Indonesia has a proper and magnificent stadium for the implementation of this agenda. let's see how the preparation of the host Indonesia, not only in their facilities. but also from the readiness of their team to face strong European teams.

This is special, I hope Indonesia will no longer be canceled in holding big events. I hope no political interest is created to derail a major FIFA event. Of course my hope is that Indonesia can reach the knockout phase. I was a little hesitant, because Indonesia's posture tends to be small and loses in physical battles. I saw it happen when the Indonesian U-20 players were preparing against a country like France. But I hope with four months they can minimize that gap with a one-two touch game. Just like Barcelona.

Yes, in terms of posture, there is definitely a shortage of Indonesian players and most teams are from Asia. but if Indonesian players have the speed to make up for deficiencies in body posture, maybe the Indonesian national team at this age can compete with their favorite team.
Is there a possibility that the Indonesian National Team will summon several players of descent who play in Europe or other regions to strengthen the team at the age of 17? because lately, it seems that there are several players of Indonesian descent who are trusted in competitions of more senior age.

[tusandii]

Having a World Cup title for the junior national team can have a very good impact on players because they will get used to playing in prestigious events to train their mentality and also how to play against teams from other countries that are strong enough.
FIFA has worked well so far for the development of world football so let's support all football events that are held.

In this U17 World Cup, I'm not too sure that teams from Asia can reach the top because they are still below the Europa and Conmebol teams.
Brazil still has a big chance of becoming the defending champion because they always have very good junior players and so far Brazil has produced quite a lot of great and quality players.

[Gozie51]

Brazil still has a big chance of becoming the defending champion because they always have very good junior players and so far Brazil has produced quite a lot of great and quality players.

Nigeria has also done very well in this tournament winning the trophy 5 times ahead of Brazil who have won it 4 times. Nigeria has also produced very good players who later got into u-20 team and senior team super eagles. But unfortunately, Nigeria will not be featuring in this years Asian tournament hosted by Indonesia in November/December after they lost to Burkina Faso at the last group stage.

[Luzin]

Is there a possibility that the Indonesian National Team will summon several players of descent who play in Europe or other regions to strengthen the team at the age of 17? because lately, it seems that there are several players of Indonesian descent who are trusted in competitions of more senior age.

This is interesting, the  U17 world cup event can be used for players to show their abilities and captivate scouts around the world. For countries other than Indonesia I feel sure, they have many players who are regularly trained in the club let's call it Lamine zamal from Barcelona to defend Spain and of course other countries. Indonesia is also not behind. Indonesia has data on 30 players of descent and 10 people must have Indonesian passports. One of the most talked about is Welberlieskott de Halim Jardim, he's a Sao Paulo player and Gabriel Han Willhoft-King who plays at Tottenham Hotspurs' Under 18 years.

[tusandii]

Brazil still has a big chance of becoming the defending champion because they always have very good junior players and so far Brazil has produced quite a lot of great and quality players.

Nigeria has also done very well in this tournament winning the trophy 5 times ahead of Brazil who have won it 4 times. Nigeria has also produced very good players who later got into u-20 team and senior team super eagles. But unfortunately, Nigeria will not be featuring in this years Asian tournament hosted by Indonesia in November/December after they lost to Burkina Faso at the last group stage.

Yes, Nigeria did perform very well a few years ago, but lately, Brazil junior has dominated every tournament that has been held.
Nigeria has also produced great players but Brazil has proven to the world they have a history of very extraordinary players, namely Pelle where he managed to bring Brazil to win the World Cup 3 times and in the current era there is Neymar with very beautiful and agile dribbling skills also a star from Brazil.

For the tournament that will be held in Indonesia later, I'm still sure Brazil will dominate and come out as champions.

[rdluffy]

Yes, Nigeria did perform very well a few years ago, but lately, Brazil junior has dominated every tournament that has been held.
Nigeria has also produced great players but Brazil has proven to the world they have a history of very extraordinary players, namely Pelle where he managed to bring Brazil to win the World Cup 3 times and in the current era there is Neymar with very beautiful and agile dribbling skills also a star from Brazil.

For the tournament that will be held in Indonesia later, I'm still sure Brazil will dominate and come out as champions.

Brazil played a friendly match yesterday against the Mexican national team, you can watch the complete match if you are interested, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opP25T8Vefg
(in case you guys want to place bets, it's good to see how the team is playing, or at least the highlights)

Brazil won 5 x 2, playing very well, and it is worth remembering that Mexico is the current Concacaf champion.
It is also worth remembering that in the previous friendly match, on June 27, Mexico won 1 x 0 against Brazil

Nigeria has also done very well in this tournament winning the trophy 5 times ahead of Brazil who have won it 4 times. Nigeria has also produced very good players who later got into u-20 team and senior team super eagles. But unfortunately, Nigeria will not be featuring in this years Asian tournament hosted by Indonesia in November/December after they lost to Burkina Faso at the last group stage.

Nigeria won a FIFA World Cup in 1985, but back then it was an U16, after that URSS and Saudi Arabia were champions and then the tournament changed to U17
If we consider that they are the same, yes, Nigeria won 5 times and Brazil 4. I don't know if FIFA considers the same tournament

One thing that I also find very interesting about this tournament is that it is not guaranteed that the U17 or even the U21 will continue to play for the Brazilian national team
Many players who play very well and by logic would continue to play for the national team end up losing space and not being as successful
I would say that from the U17 team today, probably 2 or 3 will make it to the main national team

[blue Snow]

One thing that I also find very interesting about this tournament is that it is not guaranteed that the U17 or even the U21 will continue to play for the Brazilian national team
Many players who play very well and by logic would continue to play for the national team end up losing space and not being as successful
I would say that from the U17 team today, probably 2 or 3 will make it to the main national team

This might be a serious problem, but on another side this can be healthy competition for the team. As we can on the previous world cup, many top-quality players sit on bench, the coach at that time is not confused to choose a player and give a young player chance on the field. But, because they always overact and lost dramatically, and this could be the seriously problem if can't handle it. And, I think Brazilian players will not run out until next 20 years, they have good talent to bring them to the world stage. 

[Luzin]

One thing that I also find very interesting about this tournament is that it is not guaranteed that the U17 or even the U21 will continue to play for the Brazilian national team
Many players who play very well and by logic would continue to play for the national team end up losing space and not being as successful
I would say that from the U17 team today, probably 2 or 3 will make it to the main national team

Naturally, it seems to be for all countries. There is no guarantee that all young players will continue to enter the senior team. This is because performance may decline and there will be players who have better abilities at that time. So all players need to work hard to maintain their abilities to get better and not decrease. Of course coaching at club level and the ability to continue training will affect. So many scouts will look at this event, they will certainly use it to find quality players to attract in the club and nurture them to develop better.

[blue Snow]

I read that an event will be held from 10 November until 2 December 2023. Drawing country which will be in place in group held on the next month on Jakarta. Indonesia is in pot 1 with Brazil, France, Mexico, Spain, and Japan. Pot 2 Germany, Mali, England, South Korea, Argentina, Ecuador. Pot 3 New Zealand, Iran, Senegal, United States of America, Uzbekistan, Morocco. Pot 4 Canada, New Caledonia, Panama, Burkina Faso, Poland, Venezuela. Each group will be filled from pots 1, 2, 3, and 4.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_U-17_World_Cup

[Sithara007]

I read that an event will be held from 10 November until 2 December 2023. Drawing country which will be in place in group held on the next month on Jakarta. Indonesia is in pot 1 with Brazil, France, Mexico, Spain, and Japan. Pot 2 Germany, Mali, England, South Korea, Argentina, Ecuador. Pot 3 New Zealand, Iran, Senegal, United States of America, Uzbekistan, Morocco. Pot 4 Canada, New Caledonia, Panama, Burkina Faso, Poland, Venezuela. Each group will be filled from pots 1, 2, 3, and 4.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_U-17_World_Cup

Quite excited to see teams like New Caledonia, Mali, Burkina Faso and Uzbekistan in this tournament. We never get an opportunity to watch these teams in senior FIFA tournaments like the World Cup or the Asia Cup. Such diversity also shows the effort that FIFA has put in recent years, in order to spread the game to every nook and corner of the planet. My main concern is that the two most populous nations (India and China) are still missing out. I am not in favor of giving wild card qualifications to these teams, but their absence mean that one-third of the world's population is not represented.

[blue Snow]

Quite excited to see teams like New Caledonia, Mali, Burkina Faso and Uzbekistan in this tournament. We never get an opportunity to watch these teams in senior FIFA tournaments like the World Cup or the Asia Cup. Such diversity also shows the effort that FIFA has put in recent years, in order to spread the game to every nook and corner of the planet. My main concern is that the two most populous nations (India and China) are still missing out. I am not in favor of giving wild card qualifications to these teams, but their absence mean that one-third of the world's population is not represented.

Looks like China and India aren't focusing again on football, they may focus elsewhere on other sports and technology, It's good I think, another big country with traditional football doesn't concern again to them. Maybe this is the right time to developing county to expand their young player to the football industry. but it is also necessary to study hard in Brazil and Spain. because they won't be able to Industry if only rely on their skill.