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June 29, 2023, 10:09:48 PM
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I have been planning to create this thread for more than three months but today I decided to drop the thread.
When I was a little child, Missionaries like Jehovah Witness Brethren and other Pentecostal Church preachers who was preaching the Holy Bible says, time will come in the whole world that everyone will use ONE CURRENCY and anyone who refused to use that currency can not buy things in any store. And the way BITCOIN is, it is accepting by the whole world. And Bitcoin is growing step by step.

I don't know in the last step of Bitcoin everyone will only use it and no any other currency will exist again. So I like to hear from some Biblical Scholars in the forum to tell me more on this topic. This thing that I said is inside the Holy Bible but I can't recall the scripture but it is in the book of "Revelation".
Nope unless we are going to have an apocalypse which can end the entire earth in next 100 years, bitcoin is definitely not going to be the last currency. I am saying this because we all know quantum computing is already a threat to bitcoin not in next 10-20 years but definitely in next 100 years and once it's a threat bitcoin will not be that secure and that useful and ultimately we'll have some other currency in its place.
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June 29, 2023, 10:19:02 PM
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I have been planning to create this thread for more than three months but today I decided to drop the thread.
When I was a little child, Missionaries like Jehovah Witness Brethren and other Pentecostal Church preachers who was preaching the Holy Bible says, time will come in the whole world that everyone will use ONE CURRENCY and anyone who refused to use that currency can not buy things in any store. And the way BITCOIN is, it is accepting by the whole world. And Bitcoin is growing step by step.
First of all, I don't believe that they're preaching with those statements above especially with Jehovah's Witnesses because what I have noticed is that they're preaching the good news in the God's Kingdom based on the Bible. There's no specific sentence in the Bible that say we're going to use one currency.

Anyway, If the time will come that we the whole world use one currency, I don't believe it's Bitcoin. Because what I have observed is that the government usually hates Bitcoin since they can't control it and they don't know who the person really is who made a transaction. If they're trying to hold a group of people who are hiding for buying foods, Bitcoin is their life saver.

If you remember what happens to WikiLeaks before, the government blocks them for receiving a donations from visa and mastercard, because this is what they can control. That's why WikiLeaks find ways for receiving a donations that can't be controlled by the government, and that is Bitcoin.

Bitcoin was made for us against the government who are trying to stop us from doing things they don't want to.

So if ever the world is going to use one currency, I believe it's not Bitcoin.
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June 29, 2023, 10:29:16 PM
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This kind of topic seems to be a bit sensitive, linking Bitcoin and religion.
Is it an exact correlation or is there some compatibility as described by the OP?

Bitcoin is a modern digital currency that should be suitable for everyone or all religions, there is also nothing specific about Bitcoin in any book.

Seriously!!!! Let's keep religion out of this!!!
As stompix said, better keep religion out of this.
There will never be continuity if you connect Bitcoin with religion.

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June 29, 2023, 10:45:51 PM
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Nope unless we are going to have an apocalypse which can end the entire earth in next 100 years, bitcoin is definitely not going to be the last currency. I am saying this because we all know quantum computing is already a threat to bitcoin not in next 10-20 years but definitely in next 100 years and once it's a threat bitcoin will not be that secure and that useful and ultimately we'll have some other currency in its place.

You do realise quantum computing is just as big a threat to fiat, right?  If it reaches that level, it can crack any current bank's encryption just as easily.  And if I were some sort of financial terrorist with access to a quantum computer, it would be clear to me which target would cause more disruption. 

That said, security can be upgraded.  We know what the threat is, we can see it coming and we likely have ample time to make preparations.  It's not like everyone is just going to sit there and watch while it happens. 

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June 29, 2023, 10:48:38 PM
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Seriously!!!! Let's keep religion out of this!!!
As stompix said, better keep religion out of this.
There will never be continuity if you connect Bitcoin with religion.
Same like trying to educate Bitcoin in religious facilities and perhaps raise charity donations via bitcoin.

Scammers can abuse the reputation and promising future of Bitcoin to raise donations for their benefit, not for charity. We see it sometimes with bad people who run their religious facilities. Religion can be good but the operators are bad. We don't know and should not trust them.

I agree, don't connect Bitcoin with religion.

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June 29, 2023, 10:48:46 PM
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I have been planning to create this thread for more than three months but today I decided to drop the thread.
When I was a little child, Missionaries like Jehovah Witness Brethren and other Pentecostal Church preachers who was preaching the Holy Bible says, time will come in the whole world that everyone will use ONE CURRENCY and anyone who refused to use that currency can not buy things in any store. And the way BITCOIN is, it is accepting by the whole world. And Bitcoin is growing step by step.

I don't know in the last step of Bitcoin everyone will only use it and no any other currency will exist again. So I like to hear from some Biblical Scholars in the forum to tell me more on this topic. This thing that I said is inside the Holy Bible but I can't recall the scripture but it is in the book of "Revelation".
You are not completely right, I mean youve not said it exactly the way it was said.. I will correct you..

It was said that in the last days, the governments of the entire world will come together to create a currency which will become the only currency through which any body in the world can buy goods with, could be food or anything, and before you are given access to that currency, you must receive the mark of the beast(666), without that mark, you will probably starve to death cus there will be no money for you to spend for food..

So with the above in mind, it's already clear that that currency is not Bitcoin, Like we all know, Bitcoin is not owned by any government, Bitcoin is completely decentralized and can not be censored or controlled by the government, so clearly, that currency, which I call currency of the beast, is not bitcoin.

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June 30, 2023, 01:43:38 AM
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I have been planning to create this thread for more than three months but today I decided to drop the thread.
When I was a little child, Missionaries like Jehovah Witness Brethren and other Pentecostal Church preachers who was preaching the Holy Bible says, time will come in the whole world that everyone will use ONE CURRENCY and anyone who refused to use that currency can not buy things in any store. And the way BITCOIN is, it is accepting by the whole world. And Bitcoin is growing step by step.

I don't know in the last step of Bitcoin everyone will only use it and no any other currency will exist again. So I like to hear from some Biblical Scholars in the forum to tell me more on this topic. This thing that I said is inside the Holy Bible but I can't recall the scripture but it is in the book of "Revelation".

One world government and one currency system. We are starting to see signs of the "mark" particularly in Sweden right now, with the chip in the palm to be used as your pass and payment for just about everything.  The "mark of the beast" is said to be shown on your right palm or your forehead, and it is said in the bible that you cannot purchase goods or services without it, and if you don't take it you will be persecuted, but we are not quite there yet. Bitcoin could definitely be used as a means to implement this 666 mark. Motorola believe it or not actually was among one of the first to develop this palm chip technology. I believe that we are surely very close to end times with everything that is happening in the world, but surely people were also saying these same things during WW2 any many other crazy times in history...

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I have been planning to create this thread for more than three months but today I decided to drop the thread.
When I was a little child, Missionaries like Jehovah Witness Brethren and other Pentecostal Church preachers who was preaching the Holy Bible says, time will come in the whole world that everyone will use ONE CURRENCY and anyone who refused to use that currency can not buy things in any store. And the way BITCOIN is, it is accepting by the whole world. And Bitcoin is growing step by step.

I don't know in the last step of Bitcoin everyone will only use it and no any other currency will exist again. So I like to hear from some Biblical Scholars in the forum to tell me more on this topic. This thing that I said is inside the Holy Bible but I can't recall the scripture but it is in the book of "Revelation".

Though i grew up a christian, but I gradually lost interest in studying the bible. I just feel like everything that's written in the bible today is man made and revised version of what really was the content of the original bible before. I feel like it's made to make everyone confused and as a result there has been a lot of religious group coming out of nowhere these days.
Well, what you've said might happen in the future, but I don't think fiat currency or government made money are going to be eradicated. But such thing for bitcoin to discuss today is kind of exaggerated reaction to the booming global bitcoin adoption.

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June 30, 2023, 03:11:45 AM
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the Holy Bible says, time will come in the whole world that everyone will use ONE CURRENCY and anyone who refused to use that currency can not buy things in any store. And the way BITCOIN is, it is accepting by the whole world. And Bitcoin is growing step by step.

So far Bitcoin is accepted as legal tender in only El Salvador, and many countries completely banned the usage even holding of Bitcoin so I don't think that Bitcoin is the one which is mentioned by the Bible. We don't have to connect dots everything to the religious perspective and it's not even that clear cause it's only created by fellow humans after several centuries of Jesus birth.

So far, not too many countries have banned bitcoin altogether. Over time most countries have gradually accepted bitcoin, but they only allow us to use it as an asset, a commodity to trade, not accept it as a currency. But I also don't believe that bitcoin will be the world's final currency, and it will never become the world's global currency. Our world is evolving, and it won't stop, so in the future, we will have something better than bitcoin, which is bound to happen. Honestly, there's so much exaggeration around bitcoin that it's unnecessary.

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I have been planning to create this thread for more than three months but today I decided to drop the thread.
When I was a little child, Missionaries like Jehovah Witness Brethren and other Pentecostal Church preachers who was preaching the Holy Bible says, time will come in the whole world that everyone will use ONE CURRENCY and anyone who refused to use that currency can not buy things in any store. And the way BITCOIN is, it is accepting by the whole world. And Bitcoin is growing step by step.

I don't know in the last step of Bitcoin everyone will only use it and no any other currency will exist again. So I like to hear from some Biblical Scholars in the forum to tell me more on this topic. This thing that I said is inside the Holy Bible but I can't recall the scripture but it is in the book of "Revelation".

I think you mean the Revelation 13:16-18 which states that no one can buy and sell without the mark of the beast. It’s not a currency but something that was implant or tattoo to people in able to make a transaction. While the world will have a single currency to transact.

I doubt that this is Bitcoin since it's decentralized while the currency being mention in the Bible shows a centralization since there's someone controlling the people to use it. I think it will be the currency of the super power nation in case world war 3 happened or CBDC since this starting to be implemented globally.


The way that I understand this is that the anti-Christ will implement something that will wear the mark of the beast... example "666" and they will force people to use that. You will know that it is the mark of the beast and you will have to make a decision if you are going to use it or if you do not use it, then you will starve.

We have had Bitcoin for several years now and I have seen nothing that resembles the "Mark of the Beast" as stated in the Bible. So I reckon it will be something that will still be developed in the future. (One world currency)  Roll Eyes

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June 30, 2023, 05:51:14 AM
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1.The Revelation of John doesn't mention anything about ONE CURRENCY. It mentions a thing about the mark of the beast(or the ant-Christ).
2.I'm not religious and I don't believe in the Revelation of John. It's a pretty interesting book to read, but do you really think that the Apocalypse will happen in the same way that is described by the Revelation of John? Four horsemen of the Apocalypse? Armies of crickets?
Weird beasts with seven heads wearing seven crowns? Maybe all of this is a metaphor, but I just don't believe that it will happen.
And NO, Bitcoin has nothing to do with this prophecy.
Maybe "the mark of the beast" will be some sort of CBDC in a wallet that is implanted under the skin as a microchip. Grin

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Scammers can abuse the reputation and promising future of Bitcoin to raise donations for their benefit, not for charity. We see it sometimes with bad people who run their religious facilities. Religion can be good but the operators are bad. We don't know and should not trust them.

I agree, don't connect Bitcoin with religion.
and incidents like this have happened many times, using anything to make money under the guise of religion will benefit them.
All religions are good and the evil ones are the people.

So if we discuss Bitcoin by mixing with religion it is irrelevant.
In fact, it will deviate from things that are not important and can even be depressing for some users who are not in line.


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So after asking from one of scholars in Quran, i came to know that, at the end , there will be only one nation and thus there will be one currency but at that time there will be no technology. Because those who are muslim they do know when Israel (issa) will came into this world as a human (not prophet) then he will join imam Mahdi against Dajal and the fight will be fought using swords and such related weapons not with new technological weapons which also indicates that at that time, the chances of technology are zero which also indicates that then there will be no blockchain thus no BTC.
I'm no expert but there are a bunch of mistakes in your comment here. First of all Isa is translated to Jesus in English and has nothing to do with Israel (a geographical region that can be anywhere).

As for technology it is actually filled with technology. From the message of the savior that is said to be received by everyone around the globe in "what they hold in the palm of their hands" (sounds a lot like smart phones to me) to the advise to preparing whatever military technology you can in Al-Anfal:60 to description of what sounds a lot like fighter jet (flying above clouds) carrying bunker busting missiles (breaking strongholds and the mountains in half).
Not to mention that سیف in Arabic and in these contexts isn't the literal definition of "sword".

In any case, linking these things to bitcoin sounds very silly.

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June 30, 2023, 08:21:36 AM
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I have been planning to create this thread for more than three months but today I decided to drop the thread.
When I was a little child, Missionaries like Jehovah Witness Brethren and other Pentecostal Church preachers who was preaching the Holy Bible says, time will come in the whole world that everyone will use ONE CURRENCY and anyone who refused to use that currency can not buy things in any store. And the way BITCOIN is, it is accepting by the whole world. And Bitcoin is growing step by step.
First of all, I don't believe that they're preaching with those statements above especially with Jehovah's Witnesses because what I have noticed is that they're preaching the good news in the God's Kingdom based on the Bible. There's no specific sentence in the Bible that say we're going to use one currency.

Anyway, If the time will come that we the whole world use one currency, I don't believe it's Bitcoin. Because what I have observed is that the government usually hates Bitcoin since they can't control it and they don't know who the person really is who made a transaction. If they're trying to hold a group of people who are hiding for buying foods, Bitcoin is their life saver.

If you remember what happens to WikiLeaks before, the government blocks them for receiving a donations from visa and mastercard, because this is what they can control. That's why WikiLeaks find ways for receiving a donations that can't be controlled by the government, and that is Bitcoin.

Bitcoin was made for us against the government who are trying to stop us from doing things they don't want to.

So if ever the world is going to use one currency, I believe it's not Bitcoin.
I find your stance intriguing, yet I am compelled to disagree. While Bitcoin's decentralized nature challenges governmental control, this is exactly where its beauty lies. Bitcoin symbolizes our strive towards cooperative independence, marking a creative disruption in our financial system. Take the WikiLeaks instance. Bitcoin proved to be an effective tool against censorship, ensuring financial freedom. This isnt about undermining the government but advocating for the individual's rights.

Government's apprehension towards Bitcoin is not a fatal flaw but an indicator of its disruptive potential. Yes, Bitcoin's creator is unknown, and transactions are anonymous, but isnt that part of its appeal? Admittedly, the journey towards a single global currency is filled with roadblocks, skepticism, and pessimism. Bitcoin, however, has already transformed the way we view money. So, even if the future universal currency isn't Bitcoin, it will be something that inherits Bitcoin's spirit of decentralization and freedom. After all, the future isnt something to be predicted - it's something to be achieved.

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We all have these preached during teenage and as a Nigerian it was that common then but nowadays I don't find it where churches do talks, preach about one currency to be used in a time to come. Although I can't say churches have stop teaching it but I will say churches today are more of prosperity and wealth creation teaching, Deliverance ministries allover.
But lets come to reality it would be very had to channel this thinking into bitcoin because it is a digital currency, although who knows if there would be changes time to come whereby all bitcoin would be printed as paper money which I know is not possible to happen. I believe if talking of general currency to be used at the end time then it must be a currency that is not channeled on power consumption rather paper money, let us not forget that Gospel of Christ real.

However this post can moved to  Economics section since it talking much about religion imo.

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I have been planning to create this thread for more than three months but today I decided to drop the thread.
When I was a little child, Missionaries like Jehovah Witness Brethren and other Pentecostal Church preachers who was preaching the Holy Bible says, time will come in the whole world that everyone will use ONE CURRENCY and anyone who refused to use that currency can not buy things in any store. And the way BITCOIN is, it is accepting by the whole world. And Bitcoin is growing step by step.

I don't know in the last step of Bitcoin everyone will only use it and no any other currency will exist again. So I like to hear from some Biblical Scholars in the forum to tell me more on this topic. This thing that I said is inside the Holy Bible but I can't recall the scripture but it is in the book of "Revelation".

       -  Well, I honestly thought that before, and other religious scholars even thought that the CBDC would be the last resource for people around the world to use as a digital currency, but I doubt that. Because I strongly believe that Bitcoin can be the designated currency to be used because it is digital.

And now that we are gradually moving to this digital payment system, it is very possible that paper money will no longer be needed, but this is just my assessment and opinion on this matter.

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June 30, 2023, 10:44:06 AM
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I had to read through to see things for myself as there are lots of explanations as regards this particular scriptural verse by many. To my best understanding, I do not think Bitcoin is the last financial evolution that could or would take place on Earth. The way bitcoin emanated, so it is others will come and go and it continues that way till the appropriate time as it was written in the bible. Bitcoin like one of the posters said is solely dependent on the internet and electricity and not everyone could afford it that way but rather fiat could and if that last currency could emanate, I believe it could be fiat not digital because there must have to be a medium whereby everyone would be on the same state of transferring and accepting such currency.

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June 30, 2023, 12:13:33 PM
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I have been planning to create this thread for more than three months but today I decided to drop the thread.
When I was a little child, Missionaries like Jehovah Witness Brethren and other Pentecostal Church preachers who was preaching the Holy Bible says, time will come in the whole world that everyone will use ONE CURRENCY and anyone who refused to use that currency can not buy things in any store. And the way BITCOIN is, it is accepting by the whole world. And Bitcoin is growing step by step.

I don't know in the last step of Bitcoin everyone will only use it and no any other currency will exist again. So I like to hear from some Biblical Scholars in the forum to tell me more on this topic. This thing that I said is inside the Holy Bible but I can't recall the scripture but it is in the book of "Revelation".
Sounds cool right? But it's never going to happen, every countries will have their own currencies and the reason for this is many, a country can be friendly with another but a country can't be friendly with every other countries, let's start from cultures, every countries have their own cultures and also rules too, I am saying this prove that countries can't be friendly to all countries, let's say that Russians are spending same money with Ukraine now, would that have prevented the war? I believe the answer is no or don't you think? Some countries also have resources than the other and there are some trades in deals going on between two countries or even more, dollar is topping for a reason.

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June 30, 2023, 03:10:32 PM
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I have been planning to create this thread for more than three months but today I decided to drop the thread.
When I was a little child, Missionaries like Jehovah Witness Brethren and other Pentecostal Church preachers who was preaching the Holy Bible says, time will come in the whole world that everyone will use ONE CURRENCY and anyone who refused to use that currency can not buy things in any store. And the way BITCOIN is, it is accepting by the whole world. And Bitcoin is growing step by step.

we all want Bitcoin to grow and gain more popularity and usage but I don't think that the world can be subjected to just one currency.
The holy book did mention this,  but I won't want this to sound like we are in a biblical school. Something like this may happen on the last day but I will suggest that we dont bring religion here.

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June 30, 2023, 04:10:44 PM
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I don't know in the last step of Bitcoin everyone will only use it and no any other currency will exist again. So I like to hear from some Biblical Scholars in the forum to tell me more on this topic. This thing that I said is inside the Holy Bible but I can't recall the scripture but it is in the book of "Revelation".

The US dollar is widely accepted. Far accepted than bitcoin.  What's to say that isn't the one currency you're talking about. Bitcoin isn't accepted nor is it used by the whole world and even if it is adopted by every nation later in the future, bitcoin is most likely not your one currency that the Bible talked about.
I think if such a currency would exist and to be used as a world currency, don't you think the currency would be in paper form.
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