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July 01, 2023, 10:50:26 AM
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There are indeed threads that are opened in the wrong section, but it is either somebody will advise the OP to move it or a moderator will do it. But I think this isn't really a big problem because not all topics are that confusing as to which section they should be discussed.

Also, there is already a guide for this as quoted by SeriouslyGiveaway.

I guess the problem among a number of newbies is that they are all too eager to start a discussion. Many of them end up sharing a personal experience, for example, of convincing a workmate, friend, neighbor, or whoever to invest in Bitcoin. They assume right away that since Bitcoin is somehow related to their experience, it is already a Bitcoin discussion. To my mind, it seems it is simply a discussion about their personal experience. It isn't really a discussion about Bitcoin.

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July 01, 2023, 11:12:45 AM
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Sometimes, it can be difficult to know, where we need to place a topic.
It can be about a technical aspect but also about Bitcoin general aspect and Beginners aspect, so sometimes we have various sections, where a topic can fit in.

For example a question about Bitcoin halving process.
It can fit in Bitcoin discussion but also Beginners and Help or Bitcoin Technical discussion. Sometimes it is not easy to know.

Maybe we can arrange a topic in Beginners and Help, where new members can ask where a new topic fits in best.  Smiley
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July 01, 2023, 05:05:19 PM
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OP, in respect to what others have said, creating that kind of thread you suggest is not necessary because every board in this forum has a small description below the board name. If you carefully read those descriptions,  you will know which board is more appropriate for your topic, but if you can't find the right board, If you post in the inappropriate board, you can be directed to the right board, and from there, you will still learn.


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July 01, 2023, 05:19:49 PM
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To learn how to post in the correct board, you need to spend some time here, and therefore we cannot blame beginners for that, and without a welcome message[1], even if you create a topic and install it in all boards, beginners may not be able to notice it.
All are things that managers can deal with easily, but these solutions remain useless without applying them within the welcome message.
For example, there are a lot of explanations at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=help, but I don't expect anyone to click on them.

[1] Writing a welcome message
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July 01, 2023, 09:16:27 PM
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Check the board before entering
Its written on the front page
Anything that doesn't fall on a specific board
Goes to Off topic

Besides there are rules for various steps in the group ranging from registration to posting and personal messages I'm sure that will also help and it is  already given ... which all newbies are expected to acquaint themselves with to aid important contributions in various forums. Check it out below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=help;page=post
Everything about the forum has been simplified in a way that by simply reading the explanatory statements under each board  you can't get lost on where to make a post patterning to the subject of such post. All you need do is to keep your head down and read. Maybe OP didn't know about this so I suggest he goes back and so step by step, starting with the bitcoin discussion board.

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July 01, 2023, 10:02:03 PM
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OP, in respect to what others have said, creating that kind of thread you suggest is not necessary because every board in this forum has a small description below the board name. If you carefully read those descriptions,  you will know which board is more appropriate for your topic, but if you can't find the right board, If you post in the inappropriate board, you can be directed to the right board, and from there, you will still learn.


Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺

Besides it has been defined on the Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ  If @OP had read this unofficial bitcointalk rules then he has no reason to create this thread because what he is looking for is on the later part of that pinned post.  I believe many did not noticed that segment since most of us stop after reading the full list and does not care about the following information after that.
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July 01, 2023, 10:57:43 PM
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Every board has some sort of a briefed summary about it. Any user who isn’t paying attention might quickly pass but, it’s right there in plan site.  That’s why I don’t think having some kind of thread that would carry a compounded summary of the boards and what it’s expected to contain won’t be a need to do. Besides. There is no guarantee that, new users would find and read the thread of created.
Ambiguity is one thing many users avoid and that’s exactly what such thread would be about.

As the case is, you either correct or report to moderator and the thread would be handled if need be.

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July 01, 2023, 11:01:45 PM
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Even with the unofficial rules on how and what board is the right place to post a certain topic, that won't always be enough. Sometimes even the most experienced members on this forum can be confused about which board is actually best suited for a particular topic.
 
There are times where I see some threads where the OP is as confused as not even knowing the right place for its topic to be kept, for example, in a case where the OP happens to be advising newbies on how to avoid scams and not get scammed by scammers online, and in the content of the OP there are scam histories and all of that, most people will advise the OP to move the thread over to the scam accusations board, but a few might advise the OP to leave the thread in beginner and help, where it will serve its purpose very well, because we only have a few members visiting the scam accusations board.
 
In cases like the above, I'm being reminded that no one knows all; we all have different opinions over something, and each of our opinions looks okay to us based on the point we hold before making them.

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July 01, 2023, 11:21:56 PM
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Besides it has been defined on the Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ  If @OP had read this unofficial bitcointalk rules then he has no reason to create this thread because what he is looking for is on the later part of that pinned post.  I believe many did not noticed that segment since most of us stop after reading the full list and does not care about the following information after that.


Long lists, paragraphs, and threads are always very boring to read through everything, but mostly for the lazy ones and for a newbie too, I believe it will be very difficult to cover everything at once; they can just take a snippet and leave the rest for another day, and the next day they will not read it, probably because they have a lot of things to read. I don't blame the OP, though, because he did ask a relevant question out of curiosity, I guess. LoL

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July 02, 2023, 05:04:14 AM
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Some people still finds it hard to identify where to drop a post not because they feel like dropping it any how but how to point out the right place is the problem no matter the pinned threads, it only takes someone who has spent time on this forum that can just say "this is where this topic is suppose to be and not there".
Before I started starting up topics I just pray I get the right place to put it because is really hard to get someone to guide you on where to drop a post, like to get answered immediately. I don't but is it not right to get someone that newbies could ask before posting, that's those who doesn't know where to position their post.

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July 02, 2023, 06:14:12 AM
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This forum is well decorated with appreciate subforums or boards so that users can discuss and learn easily with on topic. Every newbies should put some effort to know about the forum and their rules and obviously about the boards. If they put less effort they will learn less.

It's sometime a little bit confusing for newbies to know about the appropriate board to post something but if you look at the topics on your desired board and pinned rules on the board then you can easily choose the right board. Why you will choose to discuss about altcoins when there is a specific board for that. Also why you do gambling discussions in other board when forum has it's own dedicated board. So always try to find out the meaning of your Board and read their pinned rules and in local board there you can discuss about anything in your local language.
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July 02, 2023, 07:37:13 AM
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I noticed most newbies make post in wrong section and of course members always correct them  I  don't know if any post like this have been made before but i want to suggest  that a more established member than I who knows these boards better should please create a thread in the beginner section on what kind of posts should be on each boards to assist these newbies
Thanks

Newbies consistently demonstrate their inexperience on the forum, which is why they frequently find themselves in difficult situations.  They are constantly eager to advance in rank, and instead of thoroughly familiarizing themselves with the forum before posting, they get caught up in how to earn merit to advance in rank. If they don't want to end up posting in the wrong boards, they should thoroughly research the topic and monitor how other high rank users post there. They should also observe the types of postings they make in particular boards. When people post on the incorrect forums, administrators will either delete their posts or move them to the appropriate board.

It is simple to determine which board to post to because each board's title already contains a lot of information about it and what it is for, making it more or less self-explanatory. For example, the board's title "bitcoin discussion" indicates that it is for discussing bitcoin, "Mining" indicates that it is for discussion about Mining and how to generate bitcoin, and so on. Additionally, a concise summary of the board's purpose is provided directly under the title for everyone to view.


I  don't know if any post like this have been made before

If you're unsure whether similar post has already been made, all you need to do is utilize the search function to see if one is already available. To avoid creating duplicate posts of a topic that may be deleted, it is always a good idea to scan the forum before posting.

There is a post on the forum on how to use the search function. you can use https://ninjastic.space/search to perform a search on this forum to see if a post has been made before. To practice, Use this link to search for the post on how to use the forum search function.

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July 02, 2023, 09:00:24 AM
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To learn how to post in the correct board, you need to spend some time here, and therefore we cannot blame beginners for that, and without a welcome message[1], even if you create a topic and install it in all boards, beginners may not be able to notice it.
All are things that managers can deal with easily, but these solutions remain useless without applying them within the welcome message.
For example, there are a lot of explanations at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=help, but I don't expect anyone to click on them.

[1] Writing a welcome message

Newbies really need to spend more time in learning about the forum's rules and regulations, instead of jumping into making posts without a proper knowledge of how things work in the forum. Besides I think that every board on this forum is self explanatory and thankfully experienced members and the moderators can easily correct the mistakes of a beginner.

The explanations in the welcome message really throws more lights about understanding the forum's guidelines, especially for beginners.

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July 02, 2023, 03:20:27 PM
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Besides it has been defined on the Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ  If @OP had read this unofficial bitcointalk rules then he has no reason to create this thread because what he is looking for is on the later part of that pinned post.  I believe many did not noticed that segment since most of us stop after reading the full list and does not care about the following information after that.


Long lists, paragraphs, and threads are always very boring to read through everything, but mostly for the lazy ones and for a newbie too, I believe it will be very difficult to cover everything at once;

True that the rule is extremely long and also boring to some extent, but as a newbie that's just getting into Bitcoin or cryptocurrency that's a sacrifice they have to make, if they fail to read the rule of the forum how then do they expect to read the technical aspect of bitcoin? that's even more boring than a simple rule.


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They can just take a snippet and leave the rest for another day, and the next day they will not read it, probably because they have a lot of things to read.

I have done this for some threads or articles that seem to never end when you're reading them, just make sure you know what it is that you're searching for, read it, and if there's still time or you still have energy read more but if not save it for later or another day. After all, no one is going to examine you if you really went through the rule or not they only want what's best that's why they recommended it in the first place.

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July 02, 2023, 08:46:29 PM
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True that the rule is extremely long and also boring to some extent, but as a newbie that's just getting into Bitcoin or cryptocurrency that's a sacrifice they have to make, if they fail to read the rule of the forum how then do they expect to read the technical aspect of bitcoin? that's even more boring than a simple rule.

I am not saying it's bad to read those rules, because definitely, as a newbie, it's still their obligation to read and know the important things at that moment and early stage, but believe me, as I said, some lazy ones will not read them. They can procrastinate it for another day, on which they will not still read it. Although some of them don't care about the technical aspects of Bitcoin because they feel all they want to do with Bitcoin is just invest, hold for some years, take a profit, and leave.

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I have done this for some threads or articles that seem to never end when you're reading them, just make sure you know what it is that you're searching for, read it, and if there's still time or you still have energy read more but if not save it for later or another day. After all, no one is going to examine you if you really went through the rule or not they only want what's best that's why they recommended it in the first place.

It is true that no one will examine if they really read the rules or not, but their comments, the way they communicate, and the ideas they share will tell if they really read those rules. If, for example, a newbie asks a question or wants to know more about the forum and Bitcoin, you will begin to see different reference threads to help the newbie. If that newbie takes his or her time to read through those threads, it will help them, and perhaps if they have managed to rank up, any time another newbie asks about help, if they truly read those helpful threads that they received as newbies, they can be able to refer another newbie to those old threads. That's just how it works.



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i want to suggest  that a more established member than I who knows these boards better should please create a thread in the beginner section on what kind of posts should be on each boards to assist these newbies
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Beginners & Help isn't the only board newbies rush to post. In fact, there are many newbies who would prefer staying in bounty section in Altcoins board and then Off Topic to any other part of the forum. So, sticking a post in the B&H board to warn them won't solve the whole problem and that's pretending to admit that every newbie even likes to read before posting. Sadly, most of them don't read at all. They just go straight to posting. That's why they seem to miss what's right there before them.

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shouldn't all beginners also have seen the topics on the board and the suitability of the topics to be posted by them.
I think the key to what the OP is discussing is seriousness and thorough reading. Moreover, if you post incorrectly on a certain board, you can move it to a more appropriate board.
when it's a habit of beginners to instantly create threads with a certain topic without reading first, creating threads on every board as the OP intended is also useless if beginners don't discipline themselves to read first.
if wrong can be corrected. and it can be an experience and a lesson. there is no problem here, everything is part of one's growth in learning.

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July 03, 2023, 05:56:29 PM
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I noticed most newbies make post in wrong section and of course members always correct them  I  don't know if any post like this have been made before but i want to suggest  that a more established member than I who knows these boards better should please create a thread in the beginner section on what kind of posts should be on each boards to assist these newbies
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This should not be a problem in my own opinion. Each board is clearly described in English that everyone who understands English can be able to know what should be discuss in each board. The issue is that most newbie are not interested in going through the forum to read about it and know but prefer to post everywhere.
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July 03, 2023, 07:49:32 PM
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Beginners have even been greatly assisted by the help threads that have been created on each board. You just need to search and don't be lazy to read, so you don't get lost, so that the same questions don't appear again.
I was also a beginner at first but I didn't always ask about the general things that had been explained. Our question will describe how we are in the forum. You need to read more clearly on the forum rules so you can understand that the Explanation board for beginners is available.
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From my own opinion and the boards I have visited so far. I see newbies almost all the boards but what newbies have to do so to create threads and make comments on the boards that they have knowledge about. But whereby the user create threads on technical boards while he has not to talk about anything concerning technicality and that is where the problem comes. If a newbie create a thread in a board that he or she can contribute to the board then I don't see any restriction on him or her.

Wrongly use of board now base on the knowledge you have in the matter on the board. You don't have to discuss wallet issue in the technical board and Bitcoin discussion on the Wallet board. So once you know these then problem solved.









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