Are successful gamblers seen as addicts?

[CODE200]

You know before getting to the stage where you're called a successful gambler. That means you have pass through alot of stages before getting there. And one of those stages are uncontrollable losses, addiction etc. So to be a successful gamble doesn't mean you must be addicted because most successful gamblers have already know the ways to handle such things. Because without having good control of you gambling habits you can't become a successful gambler at first . Is through your luck and your principles in gambling.

Hard to argue with that because being a professional gambler means you've got allot time for your habit which is going to be a long time like any other professional out there, it's not going to make anyone a pro just because they've done it for the first time right? Unless they've got the luck of the leprechaun Gods and they're a gambling prodigy, professional gamblers will have to walk through that path of losses and addiction, I still can't classify them as addicts though because being a professional takes discipline and that's lacking to an addict.

[EarnOnVictor]

You know before getting to the stage where you're called a successful gambler. That means you have pass through alot of stages before getting there. And one of those stages are uncontrollable losses, addiction etc. So to be a successful gamble doesn't mean you must be addicted because most successful gamblers have already know the ways to handle such things. Because without having good control of you gambling habits you can't become a successful gambler at first . Is through your luck and your principles in gambling.

Are you saying that before you can be a successful gambler you must have gone through some kind of regular losses that one cannot control and as well addiction? Buddy it's all wrong. Some gamblers are just lucky that during their first month or week of gambling they got a massive cash out. Sincerely speaking, in my country a guy took a bet from a friend, and this was his first time. He asked for games, and they gave him. He used a good amount and staked it and was lucky to win very big. Ever since that day he stopped gambling and was very successful.

It is successful gamblers you are talking about, I don't think they can always have that winning without any bad days where they will feel sorry for them. All successful gamblers have their stories (good and bad), so I will not agree with you that there are some that things will be rosy for from the beginning and forever. Common, that is not possible. This thing we call gambling is not controlled by anybody, only that we know how to go about it more than ourselves, which makes it unique for some people, and not that they are perfect in doing it.

While some will be so smart with very good gambling approaches like strategy and forecasting, while others are so prudent in the way they plan, budget and manage their gambling portfolio. And if gamblers could combine these together, it would be so fine for them and will be shining. But this doesn't mean that the gambler will not be losing at times and even have bad days, weeks or months. The saving grace is the fact that they know how to forecast well and manage their ways out in gambling, sure, they will always be on top of their game by this. But not that they will never have that bad day, all have it.

[hedgeh0g]

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He had a feeling that just a little more and he would win all his money from the gambling and aggressive newcomer. He thought he would do it easily. You cannot underestimate your opponent, no matter how carelessly he plays, any opponent must be respected, even this one.

Yes, to put it simply, he succumbed to emotions. I know that this infuriates professionals the most when those from whom they are accustomed to earn money show them the opposite. This undermines their self-esteem about themselves, about their game. They think it also had a big impact that the whole table was watching and laughing. Probably some deep feelings and emotions from childhood that did not manifest themselves in poker were at work, which allowed him to win until that moment. The rest of the professionals also need to think about this, suddenly the moment will come when they will have something similar.

Yes, after all, he cannot be called a real professional. Maybe he was one until this moment, but the fact of the matter is that a true professional is completely tested by time and the most difficult situations, after which he managed to survive, and in some even emerged victorious. After all, at a common table everyone is a rival, and even if it were filled with professional players, there will still be only one winner. They can even play very well and not make mistakes, in which case luck will decide who to put in first place. Still, they prefer to hunt for weak players and not get involved in difficulties, unless of course these weak players piss them off)

[Docnaster]

You know before getting to the stage where you're called a successful gambler. That means you have pass through alot of stages before getting there. And one of those stages are uncontrollable losses, addiction etc. So to be a successful gamble doesn't mean you must be addicted because most successful gamblers have already know the ways to handle such things. Because without having good control of you gambling habits you can't become a successful gambler at first . Is through your luck and your principles in gambling.

Are you saying that before you can be a successful gambler you must have gone through some kind of regular losses that one cannot control and as well addiction? Buddy it's all wrong. Some gamblers are just lucky that during their first month or week of gambling they got a massive cash out. Sincerely speaking, in my country a guy took a bet from a friend, and this was his first time. He asked for games, and they gave him. He used a good amount and staked it and was lucky to win very big. Ever since that day he stopped gambling and was very successful.

The idea of a successful gambler could mean different things in the minds of different people. According to the first person in this post that I am replying, his idea of a successful gambler is that the gambler must have gone through series of losses and maybe became addicted and in the end of the day cured of addiction and has become successful. But the second person said that a successful gambler can be a novice who just became suddenly lucky to win big amount of money.

To get the good stands in this matter we need to understand what the original topic creator intended by saying a successful gambler. Me I can say that what is a success to one person might not be a success to another. To me, I can win $10k in gambling today and say that I am successful but Mr B could win $10,000 and still not see himself as being successfulm

[Odusko]

You know before getting to the stage where you're called a successful gambler. That means you have pass through alot of stages before getting there. And one of those stages are uncontrollable losses, addiction etc. So to be a successful gamble doesn't mean you must be addicted because most successful gamblers have already know the ways to handle such things. Because without having good control of you gambling habits you can't become a successful gambler at first . Is through your luck and your principles in gambling.

Are you saying that before you can be a successful gambler you must have gone through some kind of regular losses that one cannot control and as well addiction? Buddy it's all wrong. Some gamblers are just lucky that during their first month or week of gambling they got a massive cash out. Sincerely speaking, in my country, a guy took a bet from a friend, and this was his first time. He asked for games, and they gave him. He used a good amount and staked it and was lucky to win very big. Ever since that day he stopped gambling and was very successful.

The guy is just lucky and he can say he may not gamble again for now, but there is still a tendency for him be gamble again in the future because his test for the winning will always drag him back and maybe at that time he may lose.
I believe in first-time luck ans time I myself have experienced such trends, but then uf you must be a regular gambler, it then means that you have to experience both wins and losses at some point and you have to accept that fact, gambling of gamblers who understand this method already won half of the bets and also the fight against addictions on the long run.

[kawetsriyanto]

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

IMO, successful gamblers are those who can enjoy gambling but they can avoid the addiction. If you become an addict, I think you are failed to success in gambling. Smart gamblers must know how to gamble in the right way, they just make gambling to be a place for entertainment and think the prizes for the bonus only. Don't have the mindset to chase the wins in gambling! If you chase the wins and you become an addict, you are already in the wrong way in gambling. Being an addict probably will end up with bad result, you will be difficult to recover because you too rely your life on gambling.

Gambling is good as long as you make it as the place for entertainment and try luck for earning money. But if you make it as your main job or you put all your money into gambling, it is not the right way in gambling. Addicts probably use all their money into gambling because they want to chase the win, so how can the addicts to be categized as successful gamblers? It doesn't make sense for me!

[danadc]

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

IMO, successful gamblers are those who can enjoy gambling but they can avoid the addiction. If you become an addict, I think you are failed to success in gambling. Smart gamblers must know how to gamble in the right way, they just make gambling to be a place for entertainment and think the prizes for the bonus only. Don't have the mindset to chase the wins in gambling! If you chase the wins and you become an addict, you are already in the wrong way in gambling. Being an addict probably will end up with bad result, you will be difficult to recover because you too rely your life on gambling.

Gambling is good as long as you make it as the place for entertainment and try luck for earning money. But if you make it as your main job or you put all your money into gambling, it is not the right way in gambling. Addicts probably use all their money into gambling because they want to chase the win, so how can the addicts to be categized as successful gamblers? It doesn't make sense for me!

I also think that addiction is one of the things that can attack players very badly and leave them without money, if a person manages to do good things, for example, being in the casino for a long time and not feeling the prevailing need to be playing bull. time, I think it has been a good job and it is a mission accomplished, you can call him a successful player in the casino, but he also has to win the games, because if he doesn't win the money runs out and then how will he continue? I don't know if there are people who win and are addicted, but not a bad addiction, but rather spending all day playing but coming out the winner.

It's difficult from the point of view that the casino will always win, but a player can win, the idea is how long can a player win that much? I think that this is something that cannot be measured, and for that reason you have to take great care of the addiction. Is an addicted person who earns money Successful?

[Obari]

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

IMO, successful gamblers are those who can enjoy gambling but they can avoid the addiction. If you become an addict, I think you are failed to success in gambling. Smart gamblers must know how to gamble in the right way, they just make gambling to be a place for entertainment and think the prizes for the bonus only. Don't have the mindset to chase the wins in gambling! If you chase the wins and you become an addict, you are already in the wrong way in gambling. Being an addict probably will end up with bad result, you will be difficult to recover because you too rely your life on gambling.

Gambling is good as long as you make it as the place for entertainment and try luck for earning money. But if you make it as your main job or you put all your money into gambling, it is not the right way in gambling. Addicts probably use all their money into gambling because they want to chase the win, so how can the addicts to be categized as successful gamblers? It doesn't make sense for me!

I’ve seen people who are professional gamblers and what I mean by professional gamblers is that they live all their lives from gambling proceeds and I know of another one who already bought about two trucks from different gambling winnings and I’m sure you wouldn’t classify such as an addict because he already made it in gambling irrespective of his success story which might not even be pleasant if told.
In conclusion, I think money cancels a lot of doctrines and principles and as long as a gambler is making profits and maybe on a consistent based then he might not be tagged an addict because he already has money.
I’m not against the fact that gambling is fun and entertaining but I’m just trying to say that people shouldn’t make it seem like they’re all in for just the fun and not interested in the winnings

[Julien_Olynpic]

You know before getting to the stage where you're called a successful gambler. That means you have pass through alot of stages before getting there. And one of those stages are uncontrollable losses, addiction etc. So to be a successful gamble doesn't mean you must be addicted because most successful gamblers have already know the ways to handle such things. Because without having good control of you gambling habits you can't become a successful gambler at first . Is through your luck and your principles in gambling.

Are you saying that before you can be a successful gambler you must have gone through some kind of regular losses that one cannot control and as well addiction? Buddy it's all wrong. Some gamblers are just lucky that during their first month or week of gambling they got a massive cash out. Sincerely speaking, in my country a guy took a bet from a friend, and this was his first time. He asked for games, and they gave him. He used a good amount and staked it and was lucky to win very big. Ever since that day he stopped gambling and was very successful.

That's a good decision to make, instead of pushing for more, using the money that he earns from gambling to something that can grow like investment
or any type of business will allow him to enjoy more.

There are people who got lucky and manage to takeaway something from the house, some continue to play and use that experience as edge
while some really calculated their budget and make sure that money and time is well taking cared.

Those who set their limitation and manage to execute the strategy might be addicted to it in a good way.

Of course, it's cool when you have the opportunity to stop in time and say that I made good money on this game, I'm quitting it. If I continue to play using my already won money, the chance of losing it will increase dramatically. This is the most common strategy - converting random gains into conservative, low-risk management. But this is only reasonable if the amount of money won is quite significant. If this is not a lot of money, then, in my opinion, there is no point in transferring it to conservative management. Conservatively, we should manage only those funds that are already so large that we are afraid of losing them.

[maydna]

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Yes, after all, he cannot be called a real professional. Maybe he was one until this moment, but the fact of the matter is that a true professional is completely tested by time and the most difficult situations, after which he managed to survive, and in some even emerged victorious. After all, at a common table everyone is a rival, and even if it were filled with professional players, there will still be only one winner. They can even play very well and not make mistakes, in which case luck will decide who to put in first place. Still, they prefer to hunt for weak players and not get involved in difficulties, unless of course these weak players piss them off)

Yes, perhaps he is still a professional gambler with all his gambling abilities. But he must be able to accept that there are beginner gamblers who can beat him at gambling so that he can feel that perhaps his gambling abilities have decreased so he needs to learn more to improve his abilities. As a professional gambler, he should be able to control himself well and not be provoked by his emotions, especially if a novice gambler beats him. It is natural for him to lose control of himself while gambling, especially because a novice gambler has beaten him.

[LUCKMCFLY]

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Well I have always said something, that each person does what they want and that is what I have seen, practically there are people who do not bet anything and I think that the most they like is being in the casino to see how other people play and how they do to have gains, losses, etc., it is always like that, I could say that this is something very normal, because where I live there are people who are like that, just like when you go down the street on December 25th you sometimes see people drunks out there, it is something as common as that, it could be in Las Vegas, or in other casinos in other countries, well, you don't see that type of thing because it is usually debatable as something not going well, but the customs are so common. Once again, we are generally people of habit, it is difficult for those who leave their comfort zone and those who do that kind of thing in a casino and don't tell them anything, because they simply get used to it. there because they believe that they are not harming Andie and since they are allowed to do so, they are fine.

Now, as people who are thinking and who have many things to do, we have to look at it, for example, I am not capable of doing something like that, of going to a casino and staying all day, it is not that I lose my time, but I consider that I can do more productive things, I also think that the area where I live is very quiet, so the people are so calm that they are not in such a constant hustle and bustle as they are in the big cosmopolitan cities, where you cannot relax because the city itself eats you if you don't care, then all this has to do with culture, with the way people do and react and how they can behave to do things better, in a casino there are many stories that are told. Dan, but I consider that an addicted person is one who goes to the casinos and becomes decapitated and starts a world of problems, but a successful person for me is one who goes to the casino, stays as long as they want and leaves with money, on a positive balance. .

In my opinion, this has become commonplace among gamblers Yes,  maybe they are trapped in their zone so it is difficult for them to get out of the zone that makes them comfortable with gambling, even though gambling itself causes losses to them, but they still stick with what is clearly detrimental. with their bad habits, they experience quite a few losses.

Yes, you are right, those who are successful at casinos are the ones who stay and leave with some money, that's probably because they are smart in doing what they are supposed to do.

For some this behavior is very normal, things can go on the good side, that is, when you have things to do it is necessary for the players to give Themselves , and it is natural that people who want to stay or something in a place so do it, I think that the Casino owners analyze each player's way of playing and based on that they draw Conclusions that as profitable as a player is , he Remains as if the casino were his home, maybe he will become an icon and you can see the difference, that is something that not everyone sees favorably and that they can obtain things to have a status quo that everyone wants to please at a time, they alone stick to doing what they like , and if this they can bring Potential players to the Casino, only because they see People like that in their establishments, because it will let him live, so at any Moment that player will play and lose, or he will Win , but if he does, the long term has shown that the most likely thing is who loses , that's the possibilities in the casino.

Maintaining an Intelligent state and a good streak in a casino is a very Difficult thing , it is Really quite hard to do, you would have to have a great Talent and a lot of patience to achieve something like that, in the economic sense I know that there are people who can help make the difference, but not everyone can do something that can give constant profits, I know that a player who is in a casino all day can change things in his favor in a Moment , but as I have seen, the house edge is something that is Essential , you Cannot forget about such a thing, you have to have a lot of confidence in the things you do, how they are done and why they are done, it is something that Would make it clear that it can be taken for granted, For that Reason, as good players we must Understand the Capabilities under which we do not move in the casinos, we know that it is not Easy, but it is not impossible to have a good Streak and get a lot of Money.

[Accardo]

He only got moved by the fact that he can't lose to a novice, as you said. That's the fall of most men today, believing that some people can't be better than them in their field. Gambling is not a game where we'd be moved by the reactions of people around us, like in the story, the man was bothered by the laughter of those around him. He wasn't prepared to face the shame and, hence preferred to lose more money to cover for it, thereby chasing loss. The story is nice and also helps to prove that some professional gamblers can still get addicted to gambling. Because at some point, they won't be able to control their emotions and make a series of mistakes, without knowing or being aware of it. We all have different motives and our actions change each day of the gambling session. The game can change, and the results may seem promising, so the gambler may play reluctantly, trusting that he will win, just in a few predictions.

A professional can be challenged with such a situation, where he thinks it's his day and nothing can stop him from seizing the opportunity. Not realizing that no gambler has a day. Outcomes or results change, hence nobody is entitled to winning, alone. A newbie can win more than a pro, someday. Those who gamble because others did, will deceived into thinking that if a newbie wins, while won't there win also. In the process, they'll end up losing all their bank roll and rush to take loans to gamble, like in the case of the man in the movie, illustrated above. Once it gets to taking a loan the gambler is close to becoming addicted, as he can't wager games with his full mind anymore. He will play to gain back enough money to fund or pay back his debts. Therefore, putting himself in a more severe problem, all because of a mistake he made out of ego or trying to prove that he's a competent gambler. Anybody can get addicted, not minding his level of gambling knowledge, pro or new.

If someone feels arrogant and boasts about himself and feels better than others, he will face defeat from others. Sooner or later, this will happen, and as a professional gambler, he should be able to control himself and choose not to continue gambling instead of borrowing money and losing all his money. And yes, even a professional gambler can become addicted to gambling if he loses control of himself so much that he doesn't realize that he has changed just because a beginner beat him. It would be really sad if a professional gambler experienced that. That means he still needs to learn many things so that he is not affected by anything that happens while he is gambling and can remain a wise professional gambler. A professional gambler should be able to act better than a beginner and can take care of himself well too.

But usually, a professional gambler who is challenged by a novice gambler will underestimate the novice gambler's abilities so that he seems to be just gambling carelessly. But after a few rounds, he must have seen that the novice gambler had better gambling skills, but he didn't want to admit it. It turned out that after gambling for a while, the professional gambler was defeated by a novice gambler, and he couldn't accept it. If he ends up being provoked by his emotions and wants to avenge his defeat, he will not stop himself but will instead be even more eager to beat the novice gambler. Conversely, the novice gambler can actually carry himself calmly and not be provoked by the professional gambler and ends up winning the gambling game. It was a sad ending experienced by a professional gambler, and it would be a matter of pride for the novice gambler because he managed to beat a professional gambler.

Reading your last paragraph, I was able to determine the reason why the novice won the game. He wasn't anxious about winning. He played the calculative game and was not bothered if he won the round or not. Hence his ideas became accurate and calculated, due to the fact he was not rushing to win or prove a point to anybody. He also didn't care about what people would say, after all, he's a novice and the people are around cheering him up for his previous wins. His further loss won't matter. He never panicked about the outcome of the result. Compared to the professional gambler who wasn't at rest. He only needed to show his friends that the novice player couldn't win and he may have bragged the first time, that he wasn't serious and only allowed the novice to win the round. While he was trying to balance the game and the thoughts of the people watching the game, his mind was now compounded with different thoughts. He wasn't focusing on the game anymore.

Instead, what people are saying about him clamored his decisions and he made lots of mistakes which he won't give account for, even after losing the game. He's now on the verge of chasing losses and borrowing money just to win the novice. These two people have passed a message to gamblers. The winner, a novice gambler, didn't stress himself on the win. He even had in mind that he'd win the game. Playing for the fun of being with a professional was his first joy, and the win didn't bother him anymore. When one is less concerned about winning in gambling, he would make good decisions that can make him win from the predictions he's placed. While those chasing after the win may not win, and when they win, the money still goes back to the house. Because they don't get satisfied. The professional wasn't satisfied with the losses he had accumulated, that was why he went for a loan. Until he now came to his senses to stop and receive the shame of losing out to a newbie. I don't understand why some pro gambler would underestimate a newbie, without acknowledging the fact that gambling knows no newbie or a pro.

[Natsuu]

You know before getting to the stage where you're called a successful gambler. That means you have pass through alot of stages before getting there. And one of those stages are uncontrollable losses, addiction etc. So to be a successful gamble doesn't mean you must be addicted because most successful gamblers have already know the ways to handle such things. Because without having good control of you gambling habits you can't become a successful gambler at first . Is through your luck and your principles in gambling.

Are you saying that before you can be a successful gambler you must have gone through some kind of regular losses that one cannot control and as well addiction? Buddy it's all wrong. Some gamblers are just lucky that during their first month or week of gambling they got a massive cash out. Sincerely speaking, in my country a guy took a bet from a friend, and this was his first time. He asked for games, and they gave him. He used a good amount and staked it and was lucky to win very big. Ever since that day he stopped gambling and was very successful.

Right. Becoming a successful gambler doesn't always mean you have to go through a bunch of losses and addiction first. Sure, some folks might hit it big from the get-go, and that's their journey. But the sustainable success stories usually involve more than just luck. It's about knowing the games, having some strategy, and being disciplined in your approach. Not everyone faces uncontrollable losses or addiction on their way to success, some people manage to avoid those pitfalls altogether because when they experience small losses, they pause. Or when they experience big win, they pause too or stop.

[gunhell16]

You know before getting to the stage where you're called a successful gambler. That means you have pass through alot of stages before getting there. And one of those stages are uncontrollable losses, addiction etc. So to be a successful gamble doesn't mean you must be addicted because most successful gamblers have already know the ways to handle such things. Because without having good control of you gambling habits you can't become a successful gambler at first . Is through your luck and your principles in gambling.

Are you saying that before you can be a successful gambler you must have gone through some kind of regular losses that one cannot control and as well addiction? Buddy it's all wrong. Some gamblers are just lucky that during their first month or week of gambling they got a massive cash out. Sincerely speaking, in my country a guy took a bet from a friend, and this was his first time. He asked for games, and they gave him. He used a good amount and staked it and was lucky to win very big. Ever since that day he stopped gambling and was very successful.

Of course, what about those people who we can say are really lucky in gambling? Just like in the lottery, let's say that they won millions of dollars. This can be said to be successful, right? In particular, lottery winners often come from poor families.

And most of these winners are also addicted to addiction because they think they might get lucky again. Now,  because of their lack of knowledge in managing money, they don't notice that it is slowly being wasted without realizing it because they became addicted to gambling, so in the end, the millions they won went to nothing.

[junder]

Well I have always said something, that each person does what they want and that is what I have seen, practically there are people who do not bet anything and I think that the most they like is being in the casino to see how other people play and how they do to have gains, losses, etc., it is always like that, I could say that this is something very normal, because where I live there are people who are like that, just like when you go down the street on December 25th you sometimes see people drunks out there, it is something as common as that, it could be in Las Vegas, or in other casinos in other countries, well, you don't see that type of thing because it is usually debatable as something not going well, but the customs are so common. Once again, we are generally people of habit, it is difficult for those who leave their comfort zone and those who do that kind of thing in a casino and don't tell them anything, because they simply get used to it. there because they believe that they are not harming Andie and since they are allowed to do so, they are fine.

Now, as people who are thinking and who have many things to do, we have to look at it, for example, I am not capable of doing something like that, of going to a casino and staying all day, it is not that I lose my time, but I consider that I can do more productive things, I also think that the area where I live is very quiet, so the people are so calm that they are not in such a constant hustle and bustle as they are in the big cosmopolitan cities, where you cannot relax because the city itself eats you if you don't care, then all this has to do with culture, with the way people do and react and how they can behave to do things better, in a casino there are many stories that are told. Dan, but I consider that an addicted person is one who goes to the casinos and becomes decapitated and starts a world of problems, but a successful person for me is one who goes to the casino, stays as long as they want and leaves with money, on a positive balance. .

In my opinion, this has become commonplace among gamblers Yes,  maybe they are trapped in their zone so it is difficult for them to get out of the zone that makes them comfortable with gambling, even though gambling itself causes losses to them, but they still stick with what is clearly detrimental. with their bad habits, they experience quite a few losses.

Yes, you are right, those who are successful at casinos are the ones who stay and leave with some money, that's probably because they are smart in doing what they are supposed to do.

For some this behavior is very normal, things can go on the good side, that is, when you have things to do it is necessary for the players to give Themselves , and it is natural that people who want to stay or something in a place so do it, I think that the Casino owners analyze each player's way of playing and based on that they draw Conclusions that as profitable as a player is , he Remains as if the casino were his home, maybe he will become an icon and you can see the difference, that is something that not everyone sees favorably and that they can obtain things to have a status quo that everyone wants to please at a time, they alone stick to doing what they like , and if this they can bring Potential players to the Casino, only because they see People like that in their establishments, because it will let him live, so at any Moment that player will play and lose, or he will Win , but if he does, the long term has shown that the most likely thing is who loses , that's the possibilities in the casino.

Maintaining an Intelligent state and a good streak in a casino is a very Difficult thing , it is Really quite hard to do, you would have to have a great Talent and a lot of patience to achieve something like that, in the economic sense I know that there are people who can help make the difference, but not everyone can do something that can give constant profits, I know that a player who is in a casino all day can change things in his favor in a Moment , but as I have seen, the house edge is something that is Essential , you Cannot forget about such a thing, you have to have a lot of confidence in the things you do, how they are done and why they are done, it is something that Would make it clear that it can be taken for granted, For that Reason, as good players we must Understand the Capabilities under which we do not move in the casinos, we know that it is not Easy, but it is not impossible to have a good Streak and get a lot of Money.

In my opinion, it is the players who will lose a lot, not the host. Of course the host will always win in this case, because I personally think that in gambling there are bookies who have arranged everything well, and they will not let just anyone win, because when they hold gambling the aim is to generate their own profits, lots of the person who gambles and loses is an advantage for the host. and even if someone gets a big win, maybe it's also because luck is on their side.
Of course, it is impossible to get profits continuously, especially in gambling, in my opinion this is very rare. because if it's like that, it's possible that the host who owns the gambling casino will go bankrupt and for example, if there is a person like this in a physical casino, he always gets profitable winnings. In my opinion, the casino will not remain silent, they will suspect that person why he can always win. profitable victory, and this will be an oddity for the hosts. gamblers who always get profitable wins from gambling in my opinion is impossible.

[Huppercase]

almost all gamblers can become addicted, it's just that they already have every way to avoid their addiction and the biggest opportunity for a gambler to become addicted is those who always come every day to gamble even though they say this is just for fun but believe me in the long term they can become addicted like what you said. however, for gamblers who come only in their free time or on holidays, the potential for addiction is certainly smaller because they won't constantly think about gambling, but for gamblers who gamble every day, they will always be curious about everything that triggers their minds to keep trying to bet.

I don't have a problem when a person is addicted to gambling, the addiction can comes into ways for people. It can come as a blessing for people that actually knows what they are doing and it can come as enslavement for people that can't differentiate between their left from their right hand.

What I mean as a blessing is that we have some people that are addicted to gambling, they can't do a day without without risking some money into gambling but they always have a good outcome in one or two and what I like about this people is that they hardly lost everything, they often get back what they put at risk. As for the enslave gamblers, they don't make anything, they don't make good understanding of the game nor do they improvise or take a break which is bad.

and all this is about self control as you said but if self control without strong commitment will definitely be very difficult but for professional gamblers who are not addicted they always have a big commitment and can always get small profits from skill based games and avoid games luck based.

You are absolutely right about self control, some people get excited at the mention of money and because gambling is one of the ways to make money, anytime they make money like this, they spent everything on gambling without taking care of their basic needs. I know of a guy that gamble food money to double the amount and when the game doesn't go as expected, he begged and disturb his friends for food. isn't that foolishness of the highest order? Gambling has a way of making some people loose the right part of their Menrula Oblongata.

[hedgeh0g]

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Yes, after all, he cannot be called a real professional. Maybe he was one until this moment, but the fact of the matter is that a true professional is completely tested by time and the most difficult situations, after which he managed to survive, and in some even emerged victorious. After all, at a common table everyone is a rival, and even if it were filled with professional players, there will still be only one winner. They can even play very well and not make mistakes, in which case luck will decide who to put in first place. Still, they prefer to hunt for weak players and not get involved in difficulties, unless of course these weak players piss them off)

Yes, perhaps he is still a professional gambler with all his gambling abilities. But he must be able to accept that there are beginner gamblers who can beat him at gambling so that he can feel that perhaps his gambling abilities have decreased so he needs to learn more to improve his abilities. As a professional gambler, he should be able to control himself well and not be provoked by his emotions, especially if a novice gambler beats him. It is natural for him to lose control of himself while gambling, especially because a novice gambler has beaten him.

I would call it a test of strength or a kind of exam for a professional player. If you endured it easily and did not succumb to emotions that affected the game, then OK. If you succumbed to emotions and started making wrong decisions that the player would not have made if he were calm, then you need to continue to learn and improve.

It is also important to remember this moment. Probably when professionals watched this excerpt, some recognized themselves in his place and laughed. However, it was a shame for those who, because of this situation, were forced to end their career as a professional player.

[panganib999]

I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

People on the pro scene especially those who play Poker couldn't really be considered as addicts, cause for one, they don't lose money when they play. Another factor that causes me to not think that they are addicts is the fact that they are sponsored by their team, and they have a real skill that brings them wins, which then in turn causes them to play more, gambling addicts on the other hand are inadvertently stuck in a perpetual loop of gambling and chasing after wins because they don't know how to stop, and they can't settle with the fact that they are not as skilled as they think they were, which turns into losses.

Plus Poker Pros know when to stop, a lot of them take home their earnings and if they couldn't bag a win they know from the get go to stop from there and ensure that they don't incur any more losses. They instead go back to the drawing board, and practice more. You can't see this happening in games where there are many gambling addicts.

[stomachgrowls]

You know before getting to the stage where you're called a successful gambler. That means you have pass through alot of stages before getting there. And one of those stages are uncontrollable losses, addiction etc. So to be a successful gamble doesn't mean you must be addicted because most successful gamblers have already know the ways to handle such things. Because without having good control of you gambling habits you can't become a successful gambler at first . Is through your luck and your principles in gambling.

Are you saying that before you can be a successful gambler you must have gone through some kind of regular losses that one cannot control and as well addiction? Buddy it's all wrong. Some gamblers are just lucky that during their first month or week of gambling they got a massive cash out. Sincerely speaking, in my country a guy took a bet from a friend, and this was his first time. He asked for games, and they gave him. He used a good amount and staked it and was lucky to win very big. Ever since that day he stopped gambling and was very successful.

Right. Becoming a successful gambler doesn't always mean you have to go through a bunch of losses and addiction first. Sure, some folks might hit it big from the get-go, and that's their journey. But the sustainable success stories usually involve more than just luck. It's about knowing the games, having some strategy, and being disciplined in your approach. Not everyone faces uncontrollable losses or addiction on their way to success, some people manage to avoid those pitfalls altogether because when they experience small losses, they pause. Or when they experience big win, they pause too or stop.

Easy to say but it is something that would inevitable to happen considering that gambling would really be involving tons of losses on which we cant really be that lucky all the time on which it would really be that inevitable that you would really be finding yourself to be that impulsive on some point. I could humbly tell that im a type of person whose discipline and having that good self control and mindset on which whenever i do decided on dealing up with things then i do really know on what i should gonna do but on the time i do made myself to have some involvement with gambling then it cant really be that resisted that there would really be a particular
time that you would be finding yourself to be partly that addicted specially on the time that you are chasing up losses.

On the time that you would be considering yourself to be that in the losing side then recovery would really be the main thing that comes up into your mind. Even if you are really that
disciplined type of person, then it cant be resisted for those emotions not to come out, if ever you've been able to experience such actions that has been made which reflects out
on being an addict then better to avoid it out and cut it off midway.

[Wiwo]

In my opinion, it is the players who will lose a lot, not the host. Of course the host will always win in this case, because I personally think that in gambling there are bookies who have arranged everything well, and they will not let just anyone win, because when they hold gambling the aim is to generate their own profits, lots of the person who gambles and loses is an advantage for the host. and even if someone gets a big win, maybe it's also because luck is on their side.
Of course, it is impossible to get profits continuously, especially in gambling, in my opinion this is very rare. because if it's like that, it's possible that the host who owns the gambling casino will go bankrupt and for example, if there is a person like this in a physical casino, he always gets profitable winnings. In my opinion, the casino will not remain silent, they will suspect that person why he can always win. profitable victory, and this will be an oddity for the hosts. gamblers who always get profitable wins from gambling in my opinion is impossible.

The thought of making a steady profits from gambling is the road to possible addiction or even grave loses at the end,  this is because,  alot of time many of those who have chosen to chase that direction have ended up losing,  and for sure if care is not taken the run into debt and that will take away every sense of success from them, gambling both to the gambler and the casino is a win some and lose some game,  as long as you have the ability to control what you chose to gamble with is enough to stay that way,  and since gambling is filled with unpredictably,  it's now a fact that we may not see anyone gambler who can be referred to as successful.

But to say who between the player vs the casino lose the most,  then I will say the player but also casinos lose as well but it's a business, any ways and gamblers know that the house edge is always there to favour the casino on the long run.