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January 19, 2024, 11:32:23 AM
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I agree with that, because many of those who gamble frequently only experience a lot of losses and if they live side by side with gambling then it is a stupid choice. because I don't believe that gambling can bring much profit, it is almost impossible to happen, in my opinion those whose lives depend on gambling, their lives will not be peaceful because all they think about is gambling, and thinking about how they can continue gambling. So it's likely that they will do anything that can bring in money and that money will be used for gambling.

In my opinion, if they gamble regularly it will only complicate their own lives in the future, especially financially, even though there are successful gamblers, but in my opinion that is not a motivation, and in my opinion, successful gamblers depend on their own process of gambling, because it is possible of them gamble only once but with luck they can be successful, but this seems to happen very rarely.

this ends up in a question the topic raised before, so a successful gambler wouldn't be seen as an addict even if he or she is addicted?
I mean, addiction has more layers in life than only the outcome of our actions, it has to do on how something affects our life in many aspects

financially but also relationships, health, so forth and so on

In my opinion, gambling addiction can have an impact and involves many aspects, as you said at the end, all of these things can be affected by gambling addiction. firstly with money, clearly this will be the main problem affected by addiction, because the gambling they do is clearly tied to finances, and with those who are already addicted to gambling of course they will continue to gamble and with the gambling itself which will most likely only provide This defeat makes them continue to spend their money gambling even though by gambling in the end they always lose. and of course this can also worsen their finances and can also lead to their basic needs not being met.

secondly with relationships that will be affected, someone who already has a wife or vice versa who is clearly married but one of them is addicted to gambling of course this will have an impact on their family relationships, because as I said above about finances, of course with their finances. which becomes a mess will have an impact on their basic needs which become completely lacking because they only prioritize gambling, and of course with problems with their basic needs this will destroy relationships, because families cannot survive by always lacking their basic needs, and also in my opinion there have been many cases of divorce due to financial problems. and also with other things you said. Of course, there are many aspects involved in gambling addiction.

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January 19, 2024, 01:18:16 PM
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Gambling brings a lot of profit for a small amount of money and sometimes a lot of money is completely lost so those who want to lead their life on gambling are very big fools because gambling will never win anyone regularly and in gambling most of the time there is an average loss so how can a person  Loan gambler can run his regular life with money.  A person may be lucky enough to be able to manage his life with gambling money for a period of time or a few months but not for the rest of his life.  And professional gamblers are patient so their losses are less.  So if someone gambles regularly he will become addicted to gambling no matter how professional he is
No one has ever earned and retained money in gambling. You may gain a lot of money today from your gambling but you may lose it the next day. No one knows when gambling will win and when it will lose. A person who is patient while gambling.  If he can gamble with, he will be successful in gambling and will be less likely to become addicted to gambling. If one wants to support his family by gambling, it will be a big mistake. Because one can never make a certain amount of money by gambling.
There would really be no assurance and this is why it would really be that better that you should really be that mindful about securing profits like buying up something or would really be using it on other
things on which its not really that related to gambling. People would really be that not able to make those kind of realizations until they would really be losing it all. This is why it would really be that important that you should really be setting out those kind of limits on which we know that this is something that people should really be doing because if they wont be minding about the risk
then they are really that bound into those possible actions which it would really be worsen up the situation. This is why we should really be that careful on dealing up with gambling
and dont really tend to chase up losses or even thinking up yourself to be that rich with gambling.
Maybe when we get a jackpot or win when playing gambling, it's better to withdraw it and immediately use it as items such as electronics or other items that we can't possibly use as capital when playing. So the next day when we lose, we no longer think about spending the money we earned from yesterday's win. and you can feel a little relieved and your mind will be fresh again because you already have items from yesterday's gambling winnings.

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January 19, 2024, 02:07:36 PM
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Likewise, when we are in a job our money is guaranteed, there is no other way, things are always based on the fact that our own effort will bear fruit, what you say is true, we are in a casino and we must necessarily look for money to to be able to play, I have seen how people after their work go in vain to look for money to go play in a casino, and obviously I admit that, because for me the first thing to do is look for the money to make the market and fulfill it. It is necessary and last but not least to have money to spend, but sometimes they go first to the casino and risk a large part of their salaries. Of course, those who are more intelligent will risk what they are destined to lose, the rest if they do not control themselves. Well, they will lose a lot even within the norm, in this order of ideas we are thinking people, first of all we must be responsible and we can do things in such a way so that they turn out well, and not the other way around.

I consider those who always waste money, spend everything they have in their pockets, and then don't even know how to go home, as an irresponsible person, and I also see it as the silliest and most accurate behavior in the world. that is what should be avoided, we cannot be trying to risk everything so that everything is lost, in the cainos things can go wrong at once and lose everything, as well as being on a streak and winning and winning, very rarely. That happened, but it must be considered that things when they are like that have to be invented in doing something that doesn't happen often, on the personal level a person like that must put their Shoes on the ground and not be able to invent , you just have to spend the money that you are willing to lose , because as I have always said, if you enter a casino and win then fine, but the rest cannot be done because losing and losing is not success for me, that's how I handle everything in a casino very well , but not if you lose money.
If we work, we will see the results we will get, namely that we will get a salary after working, and the place we work will continue to provide that salary as long as we are still working at that workplace. But if it is gambling, we will not be able to make money as often as we want, and we will experience losses more often than we win. If they are already working and earning a salary, they use it for gambling because they want to make more money, but that will not happen as expected. And, if they want to think about it, they can use their money for other more useful things, and they can still gamble by allocating a certain amount of money for gambling. And it will be safer for them because they won't disturb their financial position just to use it for gambling. After all, they have allocated it for all their needs.

Those who have spent all their money gambling until they have no more money are truly irresponsible people because they cannot manage their money and only use it for gambling. And that was ridiculous for that person to do because he didn't pay attention to himself other than just wanting to gamble until he ran out of all his money. Those of us who have seen this or even experienced it must really be able to limit the use of money for gambling. They don't need to gamble using a lot of money because that could lead to losing a lot of money. After all, they won't be able to calculate how much money they have lost. They will not be able to become successful gamblers but will become gamblers who are addicted to gambling. that is the biggest problem they have to face, and they must be able to cure it. Meanwhile, successful gamblers can overcome every problem and can be wise in using gambling and will not overdo it in gambling.

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January 19, 2024, 02:25:13 PM
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Gambling brings a lot of profit for a small amount of money and sometimes a lot of money is completely lost so those who want to lead their life on gambling are very big fools because gambling will never win anyone regularly and in gambling most of the time there is an average loss so how can a person  Loan gambler can run his regular life with money.  A person may be lucky enough to be able to manage his life with gambling money for a period of time or a few months but not for the rest of his life.  And professional gamblers are patient so their losses are less.  So if someone gambles regularly he will become addicted to gambling no matter how professional he is
No one has ever earned and retained money in gambling. You may gain a lot of money today from your gambling but you may lose it the next day. No one knows when gambling will win and when it will lose. A person who is patient while gambling.  If he can gamble with, he will be successful in gambling and will be less likely to become addicted to gambling. If one wants to support his family by gambling, it will be a big mistake. Because one can never make a certain amount of money by gambling.

That's right, all of that happens because there is absolutely no certainty or guarantee whatsoever in gambling, of course, as you said, even though we win now, it's not a real win because in the next gambling session it is possible that you will lose and all the money will be lost. Again, honestly I would say that it's a real win if at that moment you stop and don't gamble anymore, but in fact it is very difficult to stop or put aside the sensation of winning if you do manage to win and what happens is the opposite, you will actually be even more enthusiastic about gambling again. which is even with a larger budget amount.

The point, as I said above, is that there is  absolutely no certainty or guarantee whatsoever in gambling, meaning you can win or lose at any time without you knowing in advance, in my opinion only people who have a straight and correct understanding of gambling are very unlikely to to end up addicted, and as you said if they assume to make a living from gambling then clearly this is a very ridiculous idea, this idea will only make gamblers suffer even more because it is contrary to the actual concept of gambling, therefore we have to be more careful - Be careful when dealing with gambling and don't misunderstand what is called a chance of winning, it is nothing more than just a chance.

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January 19, 2024, 02:29:45 PM
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Gambling brings a lot of profit for a small amount of money and sometimes a lot of money is completely lost so those who want to lead their life on gambling are very big fools because gambling will never win anyone regularly and in gambling most of the time there is an average loss so how can a person  Loan gambler can run his regular life with money.  A person may be lucky enough to be able to manage his life with gambling money for a period of time or a few months but not for the rest of his life.  And professional gamblers are patient so their losses are less.  So if someone gambles regularly he will become addicted to gambling no matter how professional he is
No one has ever earned and retained money in gambling. You may gain a lot of money today from your gambling but you may lose it the next day. No one knows when gambling will win and when it will lose. A person who is patient while gambling.  If he can gamble with, he will be successful in gambling and will be less likely to become addicted to gambling. If one wants to support his family by gambling, it will be a big mistake. Because one can never make a certain amount of money by gambling.
True because no one can predict the outcome of gambling with any guarantee if one wins big gambling today he can double it tomorrow there is no guarantee you can lose it.  So gambling should never be taken seriously. You should always treat gambling as fun otherwise you will unknowingly end up doing a lot of financial damage in the hope of profiting here so always be careful about this. And in gambling, controlling yourself is the biggest challenge and you always have to win this challenge

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January 19, 2024, 06:04:08 PM
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I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?


 Successful gambler and a gambling addict,  is not the same they two different thing.
An addict in gambling is some one who gambles excessively not minding their loss, they  will do anything just to gamble, they are never conscious in gambling, you will always see them at gambling centre or online gambling.
A successful gambler, this is of different phase . There are gamblers who understand well the type of game they gamble, well experienced, they follow up games very well,checks statistics, know how to accumulate games, predict few games, stake higher on few games because the chances of winning in few games is very high and not playing games that are too risky,  they don't mind winning big as long as they win always. Why there are gamblers that just there first stake they win big  because they know about the game but don't always play. Although gambling is a game of luck, but there are times that experience and understanding is also applicable. That's why it's good to gamble on what you usually relate to,  most people love sports betting because they know how teams perform, they games live.
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January 19, 2024, 06:27:26 PM
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yes they are gambling addicts, how can he be successful at gambling if he doesn't gamble with the methods and skills he has, anything he will do to win at gambling, in my opinion he is an addict

what is the line that separates addicion from obsession?
that is a theme that I'm deeply interested in.

many artists after all were addicted to making music, painting, dancing, or doing what they are passionated about, even to a point where it was harmfull to their lifes and relationships

I think the same thing could happen to gamblers

not saying this is good or bad

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January 19, 2024, 06:48:32 PM
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Its just common sense on which there would really be those main difference, in speaking about being addicted then we do know that there's no way that it could be called to be a success.
It is really just that on the time that you do able to cope up with that kind of addiction and been able to realize things along the way then this is where you would really be considering
yourself on having such recovery and not all would really be able to successfully be able to hit up such thing on which you would really be having that kind struggle on handling your
gambling addiction.
Basically there is no such thing as success in gambling, only luck with a much uncertain level. If someone is involved in gambling, it means they are considering the level of risk that results whether gambling is responsible or not. But the problem is when gambling is at the addiction stage because they can no longer control it, causing problems for the person concerned in considering stopping. So gamble when you have money and don't need to think about luck or success in it, at least if something happens we can accept the consequences.

Gambling has been going on for a long time since before we were born and there may be no way to limit gambling if every individual does not want to stop gambling. It is difficult to stop gambling if it is not filled with other productive activities because psychology will be much more difficult to handle and someone will really stop when the gambling activity they no longer like.
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January 19, 2024, 06:57:43 PM
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Gambling brings a lot of profit for a small amount of money and sometimes a lot of money is completely lost so those who want to lead their life on gambling are very big fools because gambling will never win anyone regularly and in gambling most of the time there is an average loss so how can a person  Loan gambler can run his regular life with money.  A person may be lucky enough to be able to manage his life with gambling money for a period of time or a few months but not for the rest of his life.  And professional gamblers are patient so their losses are less.  So if someone gambles regularly he will become addicted to gambling no matter how professional he is
No one has ever earned and retained money in gambling. You may gain a lot of money today from your gambling but you may lose it the next day. No one knows when gambling will win and when it will lose. A person who is patient while gambling.  If he can gamble with, he will be successful in gambling and will be less likely to become addicted to gambling. If one wants to support his family by gambling, it will be a big mistake. Because one can never make a certain amount of money by gambling.
True because no one can predict the outcome of gambling with any guarantee if one wins big gambling today he can double it tomorrow there is no guarantee you can lose it.  So gambling should never be taken seriously. You should always treat gambling as fun otherwise you will unknowingly end up doing a lot of financial damage in the hope of profiting here so always be careful about this. And in gambling, controlling yourself is the biggest challenge and you always have to win this challenge

Gambling is a fun game and should be taken seriously because our funds are at stake. I understand you'd think, taking gambling seriously is bad, but it depends on the context. In the sense that the person needs to take his strategies seriously, and maintain adequate self-control and money management technique, the player is safe on that decision. But taking the outcome serious or partaking in gambling for the sake of gaining enough money to meet up with our family's financial responsibility is a wrong choice as gamblers. However, those who make such mistakes shouldn't be blamed or called all sort of names. In life nobody is above mistake, and most a times it's a result of lesser information on the side on the gambler. So, while a successful gambler may gamble each day, it doesn't make him vulnerable to addiction. Doing a particular thing every day doesn't lead us to get addicted in that activity.

In reality we can be addicted, when the self-control wears off like a wedding ring. We then stop loving the activity the way we used to in the past, but have no escape route to divorce the activity, just like in most marriages. So, while gambling, we need to stay lingering with our thoughts, on the motives we got before joining the gambling niche. Whenever the fun no longer entices us, giving it a break works fine. And most successful gamblers whom I've come in contact with their work, does same thing. They don't skip their annual gambling vacation. Which could be ranging for about 2-3 months duration, of no gambling. Such things help us as gamblers to be on a better side of gambling, the player will have enough time to spend with family and friends. Which is also an antidote for any addictive symptoms, provided we don't gamble while on vacation, the player is safe and may not get addicted.

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January 19, 2024, 07:19:07 PM
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Basically there is no such thing as success in gambling, only luck with a much uncertain level. If someone is involved in gambling, it means they are considering the level of risk that results whether gambling is responsible or not. But the problem is when gambling is at the addiction stage because they can no longer control it, causing problems for the person concerned in considering stopping. So gamble when you have money and don't need to think about luck or success in it, at least if something happens we can accept the consequences.

Gambling has been going on for a long time since before we were born and there may be no way to limit gambling if every individual does not want to stop gambling. It is difficult to stop gambling if it is not filled with other productive activities because psychology will be much more difficult to handle and someone will really stop when the gambling activity they no longer like.
Players must understand one important thing: you can't play forever. This, of course, can be done if you play with small bets, but this cannot continue indefinitely. This can be done if the player has a regular income and allows a small part of it in the form of entertainment in gambling, but most players will always want more and more. I think that small bets will not bring the same excitement. It’s kind of a psychological trap if you try a big bet, as if you’ve opened a new level.

Of course there are successful players, but I can't imagine them in games where everything is based only on luck and pressing the "spin" button. Absolutely anyone can press the button, and even bet on red or black in roulette. I consider only players where a skill is needed, such as poker, to be professionals.

 
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January 19, 2024, 07:42:49 PM
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yes they are gambling addicts, how can he be successful at gambling if he doesn't gamble with the methods and skills he has, anything he will do to win at gambling, in my opinion he is an addict
what is the line that separates addiction from obsession?
that is a theme that I'm deeply interested in.
In every respect, addiction and obsession are similar and describe a habit every gambler must avoid if he must succeed. If you are obsessed with anything, you lose your sense of judgement and will always neglect certain rules. This is the same with additcion.

many artists after all were addicted to making music, painting, dancing, or doing what they are passionated about, even to a point where it was harmfull to their lifes and relationships

I think the same thing could happen to gamblers

not saying this is good or bad

I think you are mistaken passion for addiction. To succeed in most things, you must be passionate about it as it is the passion that will be the motivation during down times. Even gambling requires this passion to succeed. A gambler without passion may be reluctant to person detailed analysis of the games to play and may be easily discouraged when things go against his expectations on few occasions. This passion must not be mistaken for addiction because the former can be controlled while the later controls the gambler.

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January 19, 2024, 09:37:07 PM
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Likewise, when we are in a job our money is guaranteed, there is no other way, things are always based on the fact that our own effort will bear fruit, what you say is true, we are in a casino and we must necessarily look for money to to be able to play, I have seen how people after their work go in vain to look for money to go play in a casino, and obviously I admit that, because for me the first thing to do is look for the money to make the market and fulfill it. It is necessary and last but not least to have money to spend, but sometimes they go first to the casino and risk a large part of their salaries. Of course, those who are more intelligent will risk what they are destined to lose, the rest if they do not control themselves. Well, they will lose a lot even within the norm, in this order of ideas we are thinking people, first of all we must be responsible and we can do things in such a way so that they turn out well, and not the other way around.

I consider those who always waste money, spend everything they have in their pockets, and then don't even know how to go home, as an irresponsible person, and I also see it as the silliest and most accurate behavior in the world. that is what should be avoided, we cannot be trying to risk everything so that everything is lost, in the cainos things can go wrong at once and lose everything, as well as being on a streak and winning and winning, very rarely. That happened, but it must be considered that things when they are like that have to be invented in doing something that doesn't happen often, on the personal level a person like that must put their Shoes on the ground and not be able to invent , you just have to spend the money that you are willing to lose , because as I have always said, if you enter a casino and win then fine, but the rest cannot be done because losing and losing is not success for me, that's how I handle everything in a casino very well , but not if you lose money.
If we work, we will see the results we will get, namely that we will get a salary after working, and the place we work will continue to provide that salary as long as we are still working at that workplace. But if it is gambling, we will not be able to make money as often as we want, and we will experience losses more often than we win. If they are already working and earning a salary, they use it for gambling because they want to make more money, but that will not happen as expected. And, if they want to think about it, they can use their money for other more useful things, and they can still gamble by allocating a certain amount of money for gambling. And it will be safer for them because they won't disturb their financial position just to use it for gambling. After all, they have allocated it for all their needs.

Those who have spent all their money gambling until they have no more money are truly irresponsible people because they cannot manage their money and only use it for gambling. And that was ridiculous for that person to do because he didn't pay attention to himself other than just wanting to gamble until he ran out of all his money. Those of us who have seen this or even experienced it must really be able to limit the use of money for gambling. They don't need to gamble using a lot of money because that could lead to losing a lot of money. After all, they won't be able to calculate how much money they have lost. They will not be able to become successful gamblers but will become gamblers who are addicted to gambling. that is the biggest problem they have to face, and they must be able to cure it. Meanwhile, successful gamblers can overcome every problem and can be wise in using gambling and will not overdo it in gambling.

You are right, whenever we are in a casino we can see that there are many Cases where people have different ways of seeing life , I for example am very Emphatic, I like to see things from the most basic sense, if you have money because you work you shouldn't waste it, because it is very hard to spend hard-earned money, and it is truly irresponsible to Spend it on gambling in a casino , why will they be left when you are hungry? Who will give him to maintain him Knowing that he spent the money at stake? That's something that doesn't make any sense to me, it makes sense to me that a person should go to a casino where they have money ready to lose before playing and it shouldn't be much, because that person must be aware that if they spend a lot Where are you going to get more money from to fulfill your expectations, and money is necessary for everything, if we waste it we can't do anything but regret it and that's the only thing,

Those who enter a casino and have everything in a specific order , things can be very different, because they know that when they reach the amount they were Destined to lose , they do not put in more money, and that is what is done , basically things when they are treated You have to attack this quickly and follow your Own rules , because once it breaks, the money racket will be huge and that is what should be avoided. Personally , I do not Recommend anyone go to a casino and there make things different, a person who does not have control over his money will not have control in the casino, because everything will be mixed with the desire to no longer control the desire for money and will risk everything possibly losing, and I have seen how some people do not Even have time to pay for a taxi and go home from the casino , this is very dangerous and irresponsible. In this other Order of ideas, people who are like this are Guilty of their actions, because the casino never forces them to no one to bet.

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January 19, 2024, 09:52:32 PM
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what is the line that separates addicion from obsession?
that is a theme that I'm deeply interested in.
I believe addiction is more related to the seek for relief, pleasure or escape through the practice of determined activities or the usage of substances, while obsession is related to the execution of rituals in order to avoid a negative outcome to happen (even if it's based on delusional possible outcomes), like the obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), where the person may believe if he doesn't turn the light on and off 10 times, he is going to die... That is an obsession.

many artists after all were addicted to making music, painting, dancing, or doing what they are passionated about, even to a point where it was harmfull to their lifes and relationships

I think the same thing could happen to gamblers

not saying this is good or bad
Yes, one example is Michael Jackson, who was a perfectionist. His originality and outstanding performance are unquestionable, despite all the polemics involving him on his personal life, but on the other hand, it brought negative consequences for him, as he was constantly dissatisfied with his own physical appearance, which took him to do many aesthetic procedures, until his body couldn't hold it anymore, and then he died.

Even though there can be some good outcomes in the middle of the way, every disfunctional, addictive or obsessive behaviors will bring devastating results in the end for the individual. Regards gamblers, they may face several winnings on medium term, but once they hit the long term, these earnings will become dust and then they will face bankruptcy.

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January 19, 2024, 11:42:09 PM
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Regards gamblers, they may face several winnings on medium term, but once they hit the long term, these earnings will become dust and then they will face bankruptcy.

Only if these people will allow themselves to end up like that. There are lots of cases already where big earnings become dust in the long run due to irresponsible handling of money. But if we look at these cases, this money was gone not because purely of gambling but doing other unnecessary spending or irresponsible buying of things that weren't managed properly or just bought without any good reason.

Successful gamblers are addicted to gambling but some of them already build a good wealth because of their behavior of being responsible gamblers at all times and knowing how to handle their money properly as well as using it only for necessary purposes.
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Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
Addiction and success have quite big differences in meaning and because gambling relies more on luck, it should not be called success. But when active gambling has influenced him not to do other work then addiction is a suitable name for them. Gamblers who have invested time, energy and even money to produce reasonable winnings, then they should not be addicted because they are consciously able to handle gambling quite well.

It is irrelevant to attribute success in gambling to a class of people who are addicted. Addicted people are unable to control their emotions, money and so on, but if they are successful in gambling then they should be quite aware that they are gambling responsibly.
Success in gambling cannot actually be linked to addicts. Even though most successful gamblers have spent a lot of time gambling, they gamble by controlling their minds, gambling responsibly and gambling using strategies so that is why they can be successful in their gambling. Meanwhile, for gambling addiction, most of what they experience is loss, not success because they gamble irresponsibly and cannot control themselves, which usually results in bigger losses every day.

It's true because in fact success in gambling is an achievement that is not easy for gamblers who are truly successful. They have learned a lot about the strategies they play and are not careless in betting, which is different from gambling addicts who gamble carelessly without thinking about the risk of losing, so their views on success gambling is very different from addiction in general.
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January 20, 2024, 11:22:03 AM
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Regards gamblers, they may face several winnings on medium term, but once they hit the long term, these earnings will become dust and then they will face bankruptcy.

Only if these people will allow themselves to end up like that. There are lots of cases already where big earnings become dust in the long run due to irresponsible handling of money. But if we look at these cases, this money was gone not because purely of gambling but doing other unnecessary spending or irresponsible buying of things that weren't managed properly or just bought without any good reason.

Successful gamblers are addicted to gambling but some of them already build a good wealth because of their behavior of being responsible gamblers at all times and knowing how to handle their money properly as well as using it only for necessary purposes.

Everyone does not want to end up in a slump in any case and this includes gambling activities and this means that it is not something that is intentional if in the end gamblers end up with financial problems, they do not allow themselves to enter the black hole but the lack of understanding and limits is the main factor that finally makes them fall into it. On the other hand we are talking about someone who can't keep or limit their money to gambling allocations and if they are poor because of spending on other things in real life then this is something else or it means their bad habits that can't maintain financial balance in real life and not entirely because of the wrong approach to gambling.

On the other hand are you saying that addicted gamblers are successful? I honestly don't understand this because it is a fact that addicted gamblers tend to always have bad behavior and are not recommended in gambling involvement and there is clearly no aspect of responsibility that they have in their gambling, if they really have good responsibility then there is no way they end up with addiction, you have to understand that addicted gamblers are those who always overdo it and that means they cannot manage their finances well on gambling which eventually makes them addicted.

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January 20, 2024, 03:10:06 PM
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You are right, whenever we are in a casino we can see that there are many Cases where people have different ways of seeing life , I for example am very Emphatic, I like to see things from the most basic sense, if you have money because you work you shouldn't waste it, because it is very hard to spend hard-earned money, and it is truly irresponsible to Spend it on gambling in a casino , why will they be left when you are hungry? Who will give him to maintain him Knowing that he spent the money at stake? That's something that doesn't make any sense to me, it makes sense to me that a person should go to a casino where they have money ready to lose before playing and it shouldn't be much, because that person must be aware that if they spend a lot Where are you going to get more money from to fulfill your expectations, and money is necessary for everything, if we waste it we can't do anything but regret it and that's the only thing,

Those who enter a casino and have everything in a specific order , things can be very different, because they know that when they reach the amount they were Destined to lose , they do not put in more money, and that is what is done , basically things when they are treated You have to attack this quickly and follow your Own rules , because once it breaks, the money racket will be huge and that is what should be avoided. Personally , I do not Recommend anyone go to a casino and there make things different, a person who does not have control over his money will not have control in the casino, because everything will be mixed with the desire to no longer control the desire for money and will risk everything possibly losing, and I have seen how some people do not Even have time to pay for a taxi and go home from the casino , this is very dangerous and irresponsible. In this other Order of ideas, people who are like this are Guilty of their actions, because the casino never forces them to no one to bet.
If we talk about wanting to spend our hard-earned money, it will not be difficult because we can use it for various things. But is that what he wants and just wants to spend it gambling at the casino even though he has many daily needs that must be met. That would only make him lose all his income, and he would not be able to have money to meet his daily needs. If someone wants to go to a casino, he must prepare some money to gamble, and there is no need to bring a lot of money to the casino because that can make him forget to stop himself when he has been gambling for too long. He doesn't need to spend a lot of money gambling because gambling is just part of his entertainment, while he can still look for and find other entertainment that doesn't use too much money. They must remember that gambling can cost them money, so they must be able to prevent it from happening.

We don't need to advise people to go to casinos to gamble because we don't know whether people who take that advice can be responsible with themselves and disciplined in how they use their money or whether they will spend more money. If they end up spending a lot of money and can't accept their losses, they might complain to us and blame us for advising them to gamble. Besides that, by going to a casino, someone should be aware that they have the possibility of losing at the gambling game they play, so they must be prepared to face it. But most of them will not be ready to accept defeat, so they will continue to blame us. That is why we shouldn't give any advice to people, especially people we have just met. And it is true that when a person enters a casino, everything will change, and he can completely lose his self-control in gambling and will lose a lot of money.

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January 21, 2024, 11:57:05 PM
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Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
Addiction and success have quite big differences in meaning and because gambling relies more on luck, it should not be called success. But when active gambling has influenced him not to do other work then addiction is a suitable name for them. Gamblers who have invested time, energy and even money to produce reasonable winnings, then they should not be addicted because they are consciously able to handle gambling quite well.

It is irrelevant to attribute success in gambling to a class of people who are addicted. Addicted people are unable to control their emotions, money and so on, but if they are successful in gambling then they should be quite aware that they are gambling responsibly.
Success in gambling cannot actually be linked to addicts. Even though most successful gamblers have spent a lot of time gambling, they gamble by controlling their minds, gambling responsibly and gambling using strategies so that is why they can be successful in their gambling. Meanwhile, for gambling addiction, most of what they experience is loss, not success because they gamble irresponsibly and cannot control themselves, which usually results in bigger losses every day.

It's true because in fact success in gambling is an achievement that is not easy for gamblers who are truly successful. They have learned a lot about the strategies they play and are not careless in betting, which is different from gambling addicts who gamble carelessly without thinking about the risk of losing, so their views on success gambling is very different from addiction in general.
Success is something that cant fit out on gambling field, if there are  those people who are on such condition then it is really jus that pretty rare which we do know that it cant really be just that
to easy for you to  succeed on gambling field yet odds or chances is always against us on which it is really just that right that you should really do everything in moderation.
This is why it would be always best that you should really know on when to get out on the time that you do make money or profits and ever intend to make yourself that
being too greedy in towards your decisions. There are really just those people who do set up those kind of unrealistic goals and mindset and this is why they do end up
on such bad decisions towards gambling.

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January 22, 2024, 12:58:04 PM
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You are right, whenever we are in a casino we can see that there are many Cases where people have different ways of seeing life , I for example am very Emphatic, I like to see things from the most basic sense, if you have money because you work you shouldn't waste it, because it is very hard to spend hard-earned money, and it is truly irresponsible to Spend it on gambling in a casino , why will they be left when you are hungry? Who will give him to maintain him Knowing that he spent the money at stake? That's something that doesn't make any sense to me, it makes sense to me that a person should go to a casino where they have money ready to lose before playing and it shouldn't be much, because that person must be aware that if they spend a lot Where are you going to get more money from to fulfill your expectations, and money is necessary for everything, if we waste it we can't do anything but regret it and that's the only thing,

Those who enter a casino and have everything in a specific order , things can be very different, because they know that when they reach the amount they were Destined to lose , they do not put in more money, and that is what is done , basically things when they are treated You have to attack this quickly and follow your Own rules , because once it breaks, the money racket will be huge and that is what should be avoided. Personally , I do not Recommend anyone go to a casino and there make things different, a person who does not have control over his money will not have control in the casino, because everything will be mixed with the desire to no longer control the desire for money and will risk everything possibly losing, and I have seen how some people do not Even have time to pay for a taxi and go home from the casino , this is very dangerous and irresponsible. In this other Order of ideas, people who are like this are Guilty of their actions, because the casino never forces them to no one to bet.
If we talk about wanting to spend our hard-earned money, it will not be difficult because we can use it for various things. But is that what he wants and just wants to spend it gambling at the casino even though he has many daily needs that must be met. That would only make him lose all his income, and he would not be able to have money to meet his daily needs. If someone wants to go to a casino, he must prepare some money to gamble, and there is no need to bring a lot of money to the casino because that can make him forget to stop himself when he has been gambling for too long. He doesn't need to spend a lot of money gambling because gambling is just part of his entertainment, while he can still look for and find other entertainment that doesn't use too much money. They must remember that gambling can cost them money, so they must be able to prevent it from happening.

We don't need to advise people to go to casinos to gamble because we don't know whether people who take that advice can be responsible with themselves and disciplined in how they use their money or whether they will spend more money. If they end up spending a lot of money and can't accept their losses, they might complain to us and blame us for advising them to gamble. Besides that, by going to a casino, someone should be aware that they have the possibility of losing at the gambling game they play, so they must be prepared to face it. But most of them will not be ready to accept defeat, so they will continue to blame us. That is why we shouldn't give any advice to people, especially people we have just met. And it is true that when a person enters a casino, everything will change, and he can completely lose his self-control in gambling and will lose a lot of money.

Well, what happened is that when the money that has cost us so much to get is spent, because it has been with the sweat of our effort, since it is something that has much more value, it is obvious that when a person goes to a caisnolo, the first thing they should do is designate that money is willing to lose, and if it happens for a moment then things can be good, but things can be affected by other things, primarily we are people who must do any kind of thing to be able to win in a casino, following the rules. rules and basic things and requirements, secondly, if you do not have the power of all things, you have to go look for other things, for example, at the moment of playing, if we designate a losing amount, let's say 40usd, we must calculate the 40usd and try to multiply them, no wonder we are willing to lose them because we are going to spend them and now, no, we have to make it possible to increase, whether by double or close to double, which is not easy, but it is possible.

Therefore, if we achieve this, it is a good thing that things sound more in our favor, because it is easier to say when we are going to withdraw and how much we are going to continue in a casino, if we continue in a casino and with the bad things, I advise that you never leave with all in, because it is something that I know very hard to do, going with everything that I could result in is losing everything you have and that is not what you are looking for, we have to be intelligent people, and know that the caisno will always have the house advantage, and that every time we play we are always going to try to win in that aspect, and every time we have a victory we have to win, we have to retire, we can easily continue trying to play and win and when we win it is Because everything is gone, then the idea is clear, if we know that these are the main basic functions of a casino, we will have a different aspect of living it.

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January 22, 2024, 01:32:46 PM
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Regards gamblers, they may face several winnings on medium term, but once they hit the long term, these earnings will become dust and then they will face bankruptcy.

Only if these people will allow themselves to end up like that. There are lots of cases already where big earnings become dust in the long run due to irresponsible handling of money. But if we look at these cases, this money was gone not because purely of gambling but doing other unnecessary spending or irresponsible buying of things that weren't managed properly or just bought without any good reason.

Successful gamblers are addicted to gambling but some of them already build a good wealth because of their behavior of being responsible gamblers at all times and knowing how to handle their money properly as well as using it only for necessary purposes.
Well said, someone or some people who have earned or won a huge amount of money from gambling in the past are expected to be poor, most especially, those who got really lucky and won money in the range of $50,000 and above, but then, if we go around today, we will discover some old time gamblers who won millions or dollars in lotteries and other gambling games, but today are living from hand to mouth, living a very rekt live, this is not because gambling money is cursed, no no, they simply became what they are today by their own doing, which includes reckless spending, no plan and investment for the future, no backup plans just incase a particular investment fails to produce the expected fruit, this are just a few reasons added to the one you have mentioned.

Some person when they hit big amount of money over night, this money looks too much to them, and they feel that no amount of spending can ever make them or their pocket go dry again, they start spending any how on things with short term pleasure and no long term value, they increase the amount they are now spending on gambling, you see someone playing slot game with as much as $500 per spin.

All this plus many other unmentioned reasons are why some jackpot winners end up being broke after some time or years.

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