If bitcoin according to Satoshi is digital money then why call it investment.

[GideonGono]

Anything is an investment, honestly when I first learn about crypto or study crypto the first thing that goes in my mind was forex trading.
And even when I am explaining crypto or Bitcoin to other I still used forex to make it easier for them, I compare crypto into forex and they would also agree.
The only difference is Bitcoin and other crypto are decentralized while forex are all centralized.

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[fullhdpixel]

Bitcoin is an asset that allows its holders to earn huge returns due to the very high market demand. Its price volatility allows you to make multiple profits instead of using it as a means of payment. Of course it's fine if you don't make bitcoins as an investment asset, but you may miss the opportunity to get a return from its price volatility.

Bitcoin is traded around the clock and it would definitely be a great value added asset to have. While some users consider it digital gold, it's because of how the market works just like any other investment asset.

Bitcoin is originally designed to a be a digital currency. However, since it’s adoption is still in the process, people are free to use it as an investment knowing it can give us massive returns everytime it’s value surges high and reaches another peak price. Through long term hodling and trading, bitcoin can give us 10x profits as long as we’re aware when would be its best time to sell, and that is when it’s price has reached its all time high.

Though what you say is right but having unrealistic expectations is not good in my opinion. Expecting to gain 10x on a Bitcoin investment right now or after it enters the bull run will be a lot to expect, one could easily get 10x or even more if they had invested in Bitcoin when it was still at its early stages, maybe even when it was priced below $10k, but expecting that much now, when the price is already around $30k and it was even higher, might only bring disappointment in the long run.

A realistic and achievable target should be maybe about 3x or something because even if goes 3x up from here, it will be priced at around $90k which is achievable if there are a lot of investments during the bull run which will pump the price further and it might hit that target eventually during the bull run.

[Wapfika]

I believe Satoshi Nakamoto the sole originator of the bitcoin knows much better than everyone why he invented the bitcoin and I also would be looking forward to his reappearance be it pseudo anonymous or otherwise to making some notable observations on the bitcoin journey so far.

I think the original vision of Satoshi for Bitcoin as being a digital currency is still at play since Bitcoin is still being used as digital payment for various services online. People that consider it an investment is looking at the speculation side of what will be the future demand of Bitcoin as future payment. The end goal for Bitcoin is still to become a digital currency. It's value is just increasing since mass adoption still not reach which makes people use it as an investment for now until it becomes a global currency that can replace fiat.

[so98nn]

The analysis is obviously nicely done however you forgot that why we have ended up with investment question mark? This started with some minds who took the opportunity of Bitcoin possession as Store Value and then later turned it into investment opportunities. How? Well they formed exchanges. They told the world they can trade the Bitcoin just like you would do trading of real world commodities. Then they also brought in various ways to grow your bitcoin. For example putting them in cold wallet with #% interest. Just like you would do with your savings bank account. This way, they injected the market with Bitcoin Investment ways and that’s how we ended up with it.

[tjtonmoy]

We are the ones who made Bitcoin an investment asset. Everything that has value is decided based on demand and supply. with less supply, the value will increase. The same happened with Bitcoin. Limited supply but the demand is increasing every day. The people who own it, to exchange it for items, put the value with the US dollar. Don't think about it too much. According to Satoshi 1 Bitcoin will always remain 1 Bitcoin. As long as people understand it, the value will do nothing. But people love to make money. And Bitcoin market being so volatile allows them to do it.

Bitcoin was meant to be a decentralized peer-to-peer digital transaction money. It still is, but people are using it for other usage too. Like investment assets. So it does not matter whether someone calls it digital money or an investment plan, Bitcoin will always be Bitcoin. Use it the way you like it. That's all.

[skarais]

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Though what you say is right but having unrealistic expectations is not good in my opinion. Expecting to gain 10x on a Bitcoin investment right now or after it enters the bull run will be a lot to expect, one could easily get 10x or even more if they had invested in Bitcoin when it was still at its early stages, maybe even when it was priced below $10k, but expecting that much now, when the price is already around $30k and it was even higher, might only bring disappointment in the long run.

Why are you not optimistic about the price potential bitcoin will reach when the bull run season arrives?
Many people are optimistic about the future of bitcoin and that includes its impending high price. 10x of $30k is $300k, it can be reached when the demand for bitcoin becomes higher for some reason. Imagine if a bitcoin ETF was approved, are you sure $300k won't be surpassed?

A realistic and achievable target should be maybe about 3x or something because even if goes 3x up from here, it will be priced at around $90k which is achievable if there are a lot of investments during the bull run which will pump the price further and it might hit that target eventually during the bull run.

If we talk about the next 1-2 years, then 3x is realistic to achieve. But if you're talking about the next 4-6 years, $300k is realistic. ATH is only a matter of time, but of course it also depends on how this bitcoin develops among its users.

I believe after the halving in 2024 we will get bitcoin going high to break through its new ATH. Of course we don't know exactly how high the new ATH is, but it's probably 3x to 4x the previous ATH.

[Wimex]

Despite the fact that this currency was created with a specific intention, it has evolved to such a degree that people have given it different uses that allow them to take advantage of it, such as investments that, despite the fact that they take time, bring about an increase in earnings. Now, if Satoshi had wanted the utility of bitcoin to be restricted, he would have founded this asset in a different way, so that its delimitation was fulfilled, but he left it free for users to experiment and use it at their convenience so despite the fact that he expressed his intention he let bitcoin grow in his own way.

And, anyway, if we think about how bitcoin is currently being used, i could say that it continues to fulfill the original purpose for which it was invented, since it continues to be decentralized and brings benefits to people by not having any that entity can control this active.

[goldkingcoiner]

I think that anything can be called an investment, as long as you are putting your money into it in the first place. This also includes other things like other currencies, because the value of those currencies also fluctuate in price. In other words, anything that you should consider "investments" are things that can change their price in time and with developmental events. If I were to invest my money into Bitcoin directly by buying it or by investing in mining equipment and mining costs that come with the mining of Bitcoin, the term for that investment would still fall under the category of a Bitcoin investment. Because either way, I would be at risk of my Bitcoin or Bitcoin mining rigs to fall prey to a change in value. Say the mining rigs break, or Bitcoin falls in value. Those are both dynamic values, therefore considered "investments".

Even holding onto fiat for years without doing anything with it, is a form of investment. You are investing that your fiat does not drop in value from inflation. But that is a dumb investment, albeit one that was not actively made.

That is how I see it. Maybe financial regulatory institutions have a different way to categorize investments...

[serjent05]

Despite the fact that this currency was created with a specific intention, it has evolved to such a degree that people have given it different uses that allow them to take advantage of it, such as investments that, despite the fact that they take time, bring about an increase in earnings. Now, if Satoshi had wanted the utility of bitcoin to be restricted, he would have founded this asset in a different way, so that its delimitation was fulfilled, but he left it free for users to experiment and use it at their convenience so despite the fact that he expressed his intention he let bitcoin grow in his own way.

Bitcoin being on the free market only means one thing... it will be govern by the supply and demand thus create volatility on the price value of Bitcoin.  That alone have shifted or added the feature to Bitcoin as an investment because people will definitely put money to the market in order for them to take advantage of volatility and earn profit from it.  It was unintentional but it so happen that Bitcoin being initially planned as currency had acquired the feature of an investment.

And, anyway, if we think about how bitcoin is currently being used, i could say that it continues to fulfill the original purpose for which it was invented, since it continues to be decentralized and brings benefits to people by not having any that entity can control this active.

I also agree, Bitcoin is used as a mode of payment.  It is that due to the characteristics of its market, it is also labeled as a good form of investment and at the same time labeled as commodity by some countries.

[ethrhinoceros]

Bitcoin was meant to be digital money, but it's become more than that - it's like an investment opportunity too.

People saw its potential and started buyin' and holdin' it, hopin' it'd go up in value. So now, it's like a cool combo of digital cash and a way to potentially grow your dough! Embrace the versatility and remember, whatever you call it, it's all about makin' smart moves and enjoyin' the crypto ride.

[n0ne]

Bitcoin was meant to be digital money, but it's become more than that - it's like an investment opportunity too.

People saw its potential and started buyin' and holdin' it, hopin' it'd go up in value. So now, it's like a cool combo of digital cash and a way to potentially grow your dough! Embrace the versatility and remember, whatever you call it, it's all about makin' smart moves and enjoyin' the crypto ride.

It have turned to be an investment opportunity through its growth. Initially it wasn't that high in value. The mere giveaway token started to get value as people started using it. In specific the Pizza guy gave it the value and then onwards the transition from the transaction source it also got importance as investment.