Questionable Merit History From: deadsea33

[JollyGood]

Hilo is a big doubt

Can you explain why you think that is the case.

Please feel free to mention me if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer.

I read your post in great detail but am not impressed with what you wrote, nor do I believe you nor do I have any sympathy for you.

Having said that, I would like to ask you something. I request you to make another statement based on this: Will you state that this Hatchy account is the only one you have ever used in this forum?

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[SmartGold01]

I won't say with all assurance but since the account is on investigation he would decide to abandoned the account and create alternative means to dispatch the smerits left in deadsea33, from my observation if he was that real and wanted to prove ownership he would had come to clear up the claims and allegations labeled on the account. With what few people had said over here I am not surprised he purposefully carried out this mission in other to get other account ready if at which deadsea33 is band he would have an alternative to back up or to continue his involvements in the forum.

[Hatchy]

Having said that, I would like to ask you something. I request you to make another statement based on this: Will you state that this Hatchy account is the only one you have ever used in this forum?

I'm sorry for replying late, as I have been trying to find my first account which was ip banned here on Bitcointalk immediately after registration. I just don't remember much details (username) about it, as it wasn't useful since it's ip has already been used by other users for malicious activities so I didn't bother to save it's logins.  After getting this banned ip message, I decided to read some other thread on how to register here on Bitcointalk and so I saw that I could use the VPNs/tor to remove a banned ip. 

Good news for you is that you risk nothing by using VPNs/Tor as far as Bitcointalk goes, so if that's the only thing holding you back, you can go crazy and run them simultaneously all you want.

This was how I was able to register my current account @hatchy.

I read your post in great detail but am not impressed with what you wrote, nor do I believe you nor do I have any sympathy for you.

I'm sorry if you still don't believe, as I would also love to see this investigation till the end to clear my innocence. And like I said earlier, I'm here to plead my account of spam,as I never had bad intentions before participating in @deadsea33's game.

With all these happening, I will definitely have to stay clear from any merit spree thread next time I see one and same advice goes for other newbies or members. Again, I have nothing to hide so please do well to mention me if you have more questions.

[_Hiloveua_]

Good day everyone.

sorry for the late reply and thanks for sending PM by Jollygood.

I came here and found that deadsea33's merit histroy is being investigated.

I'll be the first to say, I have no connection to deadsea33, but it's true that I earn the most merit from the word games he runs.

I'm new to this forum but have been for about 6 months. To say that I have some kind of attitude towards this forum. I like to learn. Its doing a good job for me for the word game.

as stalker22 bro says, I haven't given a single wrong answer in this game, yes that's right, I am doing total 48 posts in this game (from Cantsay post) not one of them was wrong.

despite the fact that his answers were often given just a few minutes after starting a new round. Even if he found some effective way to recognize words (I do not know if there are online dictionaries that can assist with these types of games)

Actually there is no online dictionary for it. but When (deadsea33) started this word game he conducted 1st 12 rounds about cryptocurrency, ( Pmalek ) and ( cygan 1.0 ) games were helpful for me, also I had good understanding about cryptocurrency.

Then when he (deadsea33) changed the rules of his game, I didn't want to participate in this game, but I love knowledge gain so I started to persevere again, then I note the names of this forum Administration, DT member, BM (who contributed a lot for this forum) and mastered it. And the game (cygan's 2.0) was helpful for me.

I am very ashamed because he (deadsea33) was opening this thread to hide his misdeeds and I was participating in this game.

further, as soon as he (deadsea33) became a full member, he finished the game and joined its signature campaign. It is clear from this that he was starting this game for his rankup.


And deadsea33 this is not my accout, my account name; _Hiloveua_

My account registration date : January 03, 2023

[nutildah]

It appears as if this person is using their bounty/sig campaign earnings to purchase older accounts. They really thought they hit the treasure trove with this deadsea33 account but this merit game is proving to be their own undoing.

The below accounts can be connected through BSC transactions, but I think they aren't related the deadsea33/_hiloveua_ and its the second alt farm that was mentioned earlier:

Madu$11
Ripon9909
Rbolisna
Ki kos (merited by Rbolisna)
Mal$11 (connected to a ban evading bounty cheater by me here)
Mix002 (same as above)

But based on this comment it would appear the two account farmers are in competition with each other  

@Madu$11 You are a cheater, 1st time you copied (RTR~)'s answer, 2nd time you copied (_Hiloveua_)'s answer, you are disqualified from this word game.

Please don't participate in this game again.

IMO you don't fit the pattern of most of the other accounts mentioned in this thread, so I'm inclined to believe you. For example, you wrote a couple of interesting posts about the Lightning Network early on that seemed to be fairly original, which is just not something that your average account farmer is doing.

And the game (cygan's 2.0) was helpful for me.

Except you never got a single merit from him, and you didn't participate in the game...

I am very ashamed because he (deadsea33) was opening this thread to hide his misdeeds and I was participating in this game.

further, as soon as he (deadsea33) became a full member, he finished the game and joined its signature campaign. It is clear from this that he was starting this game for his rankup.

Now that the deadsea33 account is burned, it seems like you have no problem turning on it, even though it likely belongs to you. However, the evidence is insufficient at the moment to warrant a tag.

[_Hiloveua_]

And the game (cygan's 2.0) was helpful for me.

Except you never got a single merit from him, and you didn't participate in the game...

Yes, it's true that I couldn't participate in (sygan's 2) because it ended on February 10, 2022, which is about 1.5 years ago since I created my account. But deadsea33 was mentioning him in his game.

[JollyGood]

I have read your post above and have also been through your post history and seen that it is mostly nonsense being spouted for the sake of trying to end up with merits.

You are failing at trying to insult our intelligence with your failed attempts at subliminal misdirection.

It has been noted you did not have any problem spelling his name correctly when it suits your needs (to gain merits in the scam merit thread) even though you had already jumbled the name for your suspected alt-account to decipher, yet you type it wrong here in the hope of causing a diversion when you want to try misdirecting members.

You have not contributed in any capacity within the forum therefore can you explain specifically why you feel you should not receive a neutral or negative tag for merit abuse?

Yes, it's true that I couldn't participate in (sygan's 2) because it ended on February 10, 2022, which is about 1.5 years ago since I created my account. But deadsea33 was mentioning him in his game.

Round 13:

6. yncag - cygan
7. aYstan - Yatsan

[lovesmayfamilis]

Yes, it's true that I couldn't participate in (sygan's 2) because it ended on February 10, 2022, which is about 1.5 years ago since I created my account. But deadsea33 was mentioning him in his game.

I will never believe in my life that you are a beginner. Don't take everyone here for fools.You posted the first post on the forum and had already participated in the quiz. What is the reason for participation? Merit search. Further regular spam in the WO thread, What is Your reason for being there? The same merit. Now that participation in the deadsea33 "quiz" begins, what do we see? Again, the search for merit
You have not created a single post, all the time, except for posts in the Arabic local section.
Is it possible for a beginner to guess the nicknames of people if he has been registered for only a few months? You know many, but in order to definitely know everyone, as you often guessed, several months on the forum is not enough.
As a result, you came to the forum thinking of getting an easy alternative account.

[Synchronice]

It's sad that there could be an ulterior motive behind running this game for the community.

Personally, I think that Merit shouldn't be given that way. Just what's the point? Will someone's post quality improve by playing that game? I think that just gives spammers the possibility to rank up and there is a bright example in front of us how someone used that moment wisely but failed.

If a member with hardly any posts worth reading and hardly anything positive to contribute to the forum starts a Get Merits thread, that is highly suspicious. When members with little to no history or contributions or newbies miraculously find themselves on that thread receiving merits then that too is highly suspicious.

When the same members are repeatedly given merits seconds after the next game is posted because again they are miraculously online at the correct time, then that too is highly suspicious. Also, what makes it more fascinating is that almost none of the games were posted at the time deadsea33 announced, they were taking place later yet miraculously certain members were there posting and collecting merits.

That is either too many miracles in one thread or something suspicious is definitely going on.

Nothing is suspicious, everything is logical.
This was a very funny excuse by the way:

@_Hiloveua_ You gave great answers, you have already got 50 merits from this word game. The merit of the correct answers you have given in round 14 cannot be sent to you now, maybe it is the merit system of the forum, one forum user cannot send more than 50 merits to another user in 30 days.

Don't worry friend, I will save all the correct answers from round 14 to the last round. And after 30 days I will send all your correct answer merits.

Don't worry friend, I'll send you another merits too after 30 days, what a funny 

Also, _Hiloveua_ guessed too many complicated words and member names. Guy also found out that merits are easily given in Wall Observer thread and was posting nonsense there before that thread. Sorry but I don't believe that he isn't an alt of someone.

[_Hiloveua_]

You have not contributed in any capacity within the forum therefore can you explain specifically why you feel you should not receive a neutral or negative tag for merit abuse?

Yes, it's true that I couldn't participate in (sygan's 2) because it ended on February 10, 2022, which is about 1.5 years ago since I created my account. But deadsea33 was mentioning him in his game.

I'm sorry for misspelling cygan.
Yes, I have not contributed to the forum. But you are doing a lot of work for the forum. So what's wrong with remembering you?
This may be an abuse of merit, for deadsea33. My account name : _Hiloveua_

[cygan]

why doesn't deadsea33 actually come forward and take a stand on all these accusations/merit abuse...

[Pmalek]

Personally, I think that Merit shouldn't be given that way. Just what's the point? Will someone's post quality improve by playing that game? I think that just gives spammers the possibility to rank up and there is a bright example in front of us how someone used that moment wisely but failed.

Everything can be abused if not run or moderated properly. There should be some rules that mitigate the possibility of abuse.

When I started my game, I thought it would be something fun for the beginners. An activity everyone could participate in, guess a few terms, and earn merits if done correctly. I wasn't wrong. You need some knowledge to guess crypto-related words, but there are, of course, ways to cheat. Especially now. Personally, I see no problem in organizing such events. It's those who abuse it by selling merits or meriting their own alts that destroy everything. 

[JollyGood]

Yes, it's true that I couldn't participate in (sygan's 2) because it ended on February 10, 2022, which is about 1.5 years ago since I created my account. But deadsea33 was mentioning him in his game.

I will never believe in my life that you are a beginner. Don't take everyone here for fools.You posted the first post on the forum and had already participated in the quiz. What is the reason for participation? Merit search. Further regular spam in the WO thread, What is Your reason for being there? The same merit. Now that participation in the deadsea33 "quiz" begins, what do we see? Again, the search for merit
You have not created a single post, all the time, except for posts in the Arabic local section.
Is it possible for a beginner to guess the nicknames of people if he has been registered for only a few months? You know many, but in order to definitely know everyone, as you often guessed, several months on the forum is not enough.
As a result, you came to the forum thinking of getting an easy alternative account.

He skipped past your post ignoring it completely. The fact he made no effort at all to address any point you raised shows the account is probably sure tags will be forthcoming and is trying to stop themselves from making more errors.

Unfortunately, @deadsea33 tried to hide the past of that account, it is difficult to know if it was an alt account, but the distribution of merit between him and _Hiloveua_ is sufficient to accuse him of selling merits, if not an alternative account (I note that there is a difference in the local boards and I do not think that _Hiloveua_ speaks Arabic, but uses Google translator)

It is worth noting hugeblack has mentioned his opinions clearly as far as the _Hiloveua_ account is concerned. If this member is using online translators to deceive others in to believing they are multi-lingual (if not bi-lingual) then what is their aim for the charade?

why doesn't deadsea33 actually come forward and take a stand on all these accusations/merit abuse...

As deadsea33 has not answered, I will take a guess and say maybe he is too busy using the other farmed accounts under his control to meet their signature campaign quotas or he is trying to build them up in order to join signature campaigns. He does not have much use left for the sold/hacked deadsea33 account now.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

why doesn't deadsea33 actually come forward and take a stand on all these accusations/merit abuse...

In the previous threads, he never bothered to defend himself that much, and it's likely to be the same in this thread. That's his trait, probably.

If you guys are having a lot of headache gauging whose accused alt accounts are deadsea33's. Just look in the detail. The accounts that haven't come forth until now to claim their innocence should be highly suspicious. I mean, that's deadsea33's way of reacting to accusations, isn't it? 

[_Hiloveua_]

I will never believe in my life that you are a beginner. Don't take everyone here for fools.You posted the first post on the forum and had already participated in the quiz. What is the reason for participation? Merit search. Further regular spam in the WO thread, What is Your reason for being there? The same merit. Now that participation in the deadsea33 "quiz" begins, what do we see? Again, the search for merit
You have not created a single post, all the time, except for posts in the Arabic local section.
Is it possible for a beginner to guess the nicknames of people if he has been registered for only a few months? You know many, but in order to definitely know everyone, as you often guessed, several months on the forum is not enough.
As a result, you came to the forum thinking of getting an easy alternative account.

Thank you for commenting, don't mind, who you believe or not is your personal matter. You said I am already participating in the quiz, this is wrong, I have not joined the new quiz, I am posting on merit count down, this is a help post. Yes, it's true that I haven't posted except on WO threads and local boards, and I've been looking for merit since I created my account. So I can't learn anything. Of course it can be learned. And who will post where is his personal matter. And I did not come to this forum for any alternative account.

He skipped past your post ignoring it completely. The fact he made no effort at all to address any point you raised shows the account is probably sure tags will be forthcoming and is trying to stop themselves from making more errors.

I am sorry that I gave his reply very late, but I did not avoid him. You may have misunderstood. I last replied to you. His reply was after you.

It is worth noting hugeblack has mentioned his opinions clearly as far as the _Hiloveua_ account is concerned. If this member is using online translators to deceive others in to believing they are multi-lingual (if not bi-lingual) then what is their aim for the charade?

I still don't know how a person can cheat others by using online translators. I'm sorry I have no idea about this.

[Rikafip]

I still don't know how a person can cheat others by using online translators. I'm sorry I have no idea about this.

Arabic local board historically has a very high (often highest among all local boards) merit/post ratio so I wouldn't be surprised if someone who doesn't speak Arabic at all uses Google translate in order to farm merit.

By the way, are you a native Arabic speaker?

[lovesmayfamilis]

Thank you for commenting, don't mind, who you believe or not is your personal matter. You said I am already participating in the quiz, this is wrong, I have not joined the new quiz, I am posting on merit count down, this is a help post. Yes, it's true that I haven't posted except on WO threads and local boards, and I've been looking for merit since I created my account. So I can't learn anything. Of course it can be learned. And who will post where is his personal matter. And I did not come to this forum for any alternative account.

Are you serious? Your first post and already participated in the quiz. Who do you want to fool? I do not want to repeat myself, but for those who are stupid, once again, in the WO branch, newbies spam in the hope of getting merit.
Are you saying that you accidentally found out that GazetaBitcoin is giving away merit in the quiz? Likewise, as a beginner and as a visionary, did you immediately find a suitable topic?
I don't care what you're going to do here, but yes, after gaining some merit the easy way, now you'll have to show your level of knowledge for real. You answered questions that beginners are unlikely to answer the first time.
You need to understand that your appearance in the "Reputation" branch indicates that you will be under attention since your behavior is too suspicious.

[_Hiloveua_]

Are you serious? Your first post and already participated in the quiz. Who do you want to fool? I do not want to repeat myself, but for those who are stupid, once again, in the WO branch, newbies spam in the hope of getting merit.
Are you saying that you accidentally found out that GazetaBitcoin is giving away merit in the quiz? Likewise, as a beginner and as a visionary, did you immediately find a suitable topic?
I don't care what you're going to do here, but yes, after gaining some merit the easy way, now you'll have to show your level of knowledge for real. You answered questions that beginners are unlikely to answer the first time.
You need to understand that your appearance in the "Reputation" branch indicates that you will be under attention since your behavior is too suspicious.

I'm sorry, I didn't understand you, you are talking about this quiz. Yes, I was participating in it. GazetaBitcoin gave me merit after answering.

Thank you for teaching something new.

But what is my mistake if I participate in the quiz?

And here the merit history of deadsea33 is being investigated.

[JollyGood]

Please note, I am on the verge of tagging your _Hiloveua_ account (and several others) on the basis of being farmed engaging in merit abuse operated by the same puppeteer controlling the deadsea33 account. Having said that I ask you to be clear in your defence.

_Hiloveua_ without conducting in incoherent ramblings and by giving straight answers only, can you address the following questions:

You have not contributed in any capacity within the forum therefore can you explain specifically why you feel you should not receive a neutral or negative tag for merit abuse?

By the way, are you a native Arabic speaker?

Are you saying that you accidentally found out that GazetaBitcoin is giving away merit in the quiz? Likewise, as a beginner and as a visionary, did you immediately find a suitable topic?

[holydarkness]

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But what is my mistake if I participate in the quiz?

And here the merit history of deadsea33 is being investigated.

If I have to facepalmed myself reading your ignorance, I might have to take myself to the ER. Allow me to help you to break down the situation here slowly: the question being asked here is not if anyone made mistake by participating in the quiz, it's if you're [and other accounts] an alt of deadsea33. Many members are also participants of that thread, but a lot of them [currently] are not as suspicios as you in term of accuracy, timing in giving your answers, and other factors.

As for the matter being investigated here, it is not only deadsea33's merit history, but also the possible alt-account of his, and this is where you come to the spotlight.

In short, if you really find it hard to understand, there is an ongoing investigation that deadsea33's account changed hand, and that he published his quiz thread of which you participated for the sole purpose of abusing merit by rewarding it to his other accounts, of which, so many signs point out to your account as one of it.