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June 02, 2024, 05:22:04 PM
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Russian propagandists are now trying very hard to justify their stupid attack on Ukraine. How else can one justify this if not to paint the image of an enemy in the Ukrainians, who, supposedly, for some reason, were inflamed with hatred of the Russians. This is supposedly why they need to be killed.

Here is the video that I was talking about: https://vk.com/video34634651_456239742?list=5d6316a482eb331b1f
Unfortunately this video is in Russian and in the beginning you will see an ad which you will have to watch for half a minute or so and then you will see how these crazy Ukrainian nationalists were jumping in the streets of Kiev and shouted in Ukrainian that a Muscovite must be hanged and that those who were not jumping were Muscovites that had to be killed.
 
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Russian propagandists are now trying very hard to justify their stupid attack on Ukraine. How else can one justify this if not to paint the image of an enemy in the Ukrainians, who, supposedly, for some reason, were inflamed with hatred of the Russians. This is supposedly why they need to be killed.

Here is the video that I was talking about: https://vk.com/video34634651_456239742?list=5d6316a482eb331b1f
Unfortunately this video is in Russian and in the beginning you will see an ad which you will have to watch for half a minute or so and then you will see how these crazy Ukrainian nationalists were jumping in the streets of Kiev and shouted in Ukrainian that a Muscovite must be hanged and that those who were not jumping were Muscovites that had to be killed.
 
I watched the video you linked to. I can say that the place of this action is not the Independence Square in Kyiv and this most likely did not happen in Kyiv. Judging by the sign on the building with a blue background, this is some kind of administrative building in Ukraine, but I could not determine when it was, in what year and about what the rally took place. If this was after Russia attacked Ukraine, then this behavior of Ukrainians is quite logical. Do you want Russians to be loved because they attack Ukraine, killing people and destroying everything in their path?

During the Second World War, the slogan “Death to the German occupiers” was also widespread in the USSR. For Ukrainians today there is a similar situation, in which today the occupier is a Russian soldier who needs to be killed on Ukrainian soil. And Ukrainians are doing this very actively. In May alone, the irretrievable losses of Russians in Ukraine amounted to over 38 thousand people. This is a quantitative record for the entire war with the Russians.
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June 04, 2024, 06:04:22 AM
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I watched the video you linked to. I can say that the place of this action is not the Independence Square in Kyiv and this most likely did not happen in Kyiv. Judging by the sign on the building with a blue background, this is some kind of administrative building in Ukraine, but I could not determine when it was, in what year and about what the rally took place. If this was after Russia attacked Ukraine, then this behavior of Ukrainians is quite logical. Do you want Russians to be loved because they attack Ukraine, killing people and destroying everything in their path?


I can assure you that this video was made long before 2022. I watched and heard this video about 9 or 8 years ago. May be this jumping circus was not held in Kiev, I don't know that but again I know that such types of crazy jumps took place all over Ukraine many times since 2014.

At the same time I must tell you that this night I was talking to a Ukrainian who fled to Europe and asked him questions about the conflict and he told me that in reality Russian speaking people in Ukraine were not oppressed to such a degree as I heard here in Russia and read in some articles.  

Also he told me that indeed 2 break away provinces of Ukraine were not fired upon by the Ukrainian army and this information was a surpise to me. It appears that the shelling might be provoked by pro Moscow fighters and then the Ukrainian army was blamed for that. I don't know that.

Is seems to me that there are certain forces in play in Russia and Ukraine that want to instigate a conflict between Russia and Ukraine and I believe that these forces are controlled by the CIA..  
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June 04, 2024, 06:33:21 AM
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By the way some time ago I heard about a very interesting development regardng citizens of Belgorod that is now regularly being fired upon by the Ukrainian army. Many citizens of this town just like their compatriots all across Russia have started hating Ukrainians and considering them to be their mortal enemies.

As soon as the town of Belgorod started to be fired upon some of them started to leave the town in order to escape the unpleasantness of a war.

And as soon as they started coming to other towns in Russia they were unplesantly surpirsed that many owners of the apartments that they wanted to rent considered the citizens of Belgorod as second rate citizens and charged them prices at least twice as much than they normally charge for renting an apartment.

That's for solidarity and unity among the people of Russia.

Also despite the fact that many of them lost their jobs as a result of war activities the banks in Russia still demand that they must make payments on schedule for the cars that they bought on credit or their mortgage payments.
In other words they are not given any deferment in loan and mortgage repayments.
 
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June 05, 2024, 11:56:58 AM
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I watched the video you linked to. I can say that the place of this action is not the Independence Square in Kyiv and this most likely did not happen in Kyiv. Judging by the sign on the building with a blue background, this is some kind of administrative building in Ukraine, but I could not determine when it was, in what year and about what the rally took place. If this was after Russia attacked Ukraine, then this behavior of Ukrainians is quite logical. Do you want Russians to be loved because they attack Ukraine, killing people and destroying everything in their path?


I can assure you that this video was made long before 2022. I watched and heard this video about 9 or 8 years ago. May be this jumping circus was not held in Kiev, I don't know that but again I know that such types of crazy jumps took place all over Ukraine many times since 2014.

At the same time I must tell you that this night I was talking to a Ukrainian who fled to Europe and asked him questions about the conflict and he told me that in reality Russian speaking people in Ukraine were not oppressed to such a degree as I heard here in Russia and read in some articles.  

Also he told me that indeed 2 break away provinces of Ukraine were not fired upon by the Ukrainian army and this information was a surpise to me. It appears that the shelling might be provoked by pro Moscow fighters and then the Ukrainian army was blamed for that. I don't know that.

Is seems to me that there are certain forces in play in Russia and Ukraine that want to instigate a conflict between Russia and Ukraine and I believe that these forces are controlled by the CIA..  
I believed that you deliberately distorted the reality about the events taking place in Ukraine, including the oppression of the Russian-speaking population and the shelling of the territory of the so-called DPR and DPR. But it seems that you were only honestly mistaken about this.

As for the incidents you mentioned with Ukrainians shouting about Muscovites, you yourself write that this happened starting in 2014. That is, after the invasion of Russian troops into the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, which occurred in February 2014. And accordingly, the Ukrainians had the right to call for the killing of the occupiers.

I also agree with you that there are certain forces that want the mutual weakening of Ukraine and Russia. Therefore, Ukraine is given few weapons and always very late so that Ukraine does not lose the war, but also does not win it. Some people have long been laying claim to Ukrainian black soil, but this is not the United States.
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June 05, 2024, 07:23:09 PM
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As for the incidents you mentioned with Ukrainians shouting about Muscovites, you yourself write that this happened starting in 2014. That is, after the invasion of Russian troops into the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, which occurred in February 2014. And accordingly, the Ukrainians had the right to call for the killing of the occupiers.


By the way as regards Crimea it seems to me that you are not aware of the fact that basically Crimea has never been a part of Ukraine. This territory has always been populated by ethnic Russians. Crimea was handed over to Ukraine by Krushov in the 50-ies only due to the fact that it was more convenient for Moscow at that time to keep Crimea in the jurisdiction of Ukraine..

It was given to Ukraine at that time only because Russia and Ukraine have always been one country and authorities in Moscow did not differentiate between Russia and Ukraine. In fact many leaders of the Communist Party of the USSR came from Ukraine.

Therefore in my opinion annexation of Crimea by Russia in 2014 is not an invasion but the US and its Europaean vassals are using this as a pretext to blame Russia for an invasion which was not an invasion as such.

Again I like your logic and accroding to your logic I would say that in the 16th century the world witnessed an invasion of the Northern American continent by European settlers. This was an invasion and it must be stopped right away.  
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June 06, 2024, 03:58:19 PM
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As for the incidents you mentioned with Ukrainians shouting about Muscovites, you yourself write that this happened starting in 2014. That is, after the invasion of Russian troops into the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, which occurred in February 2014. And accordingly, the Ukrainians had the right to call for the killing of the occupiers.


By the way as regards Crimea it seems to me that you are not aware of the fact that basically Crimea has never been a part of Ukraine. This territory has always been populated by ethnic Russians. Crimea was handed over to Ukraine by Krushov in the 50-ies only due to the fact that it was more convenient for Moscow at that time to keep Crimea in the jurisdiction of Ukraine..
Has the territory of the Crimean peninsula always been inhabited by ethnic Russians? Not true. Let's take a look at who previously lived in Crimea and within which states.

So, from the middle of the 13th century, the steppe Crimea was part of the Golden Horde; after the decline of Byzantium, the southern coast of Crimea was occupied by Genoese colonies. After the collapse of the Golden Horde in the middle of the 15th century, the Crimean Khanate was formed in Crimea. After the Turkish conquest in 1475, the coastal cities and the mountainous part of Crimea became part of the Ottoman Empire. The rest of the peninsula was owned by the Crimean Khanate, which, in turn, became a vassal of the Ottoman Empire. According to the Kuchuk-Kainardzhi Peace Treaty of 1774, signed as a result of the Russian-Turkish War of 1768-1774, both Turkey and Russia pledged not to interfere in the affairs of the Crimean Khanate. In 1783, the Crimean peninsula was conquered and annexed to the Russian Empire, the Tauride region was formed here, and later the Tauride province.

 As you can see, it was only at the end of the 18th century that Crimea was conquered by the Russian Empire. And the indigenous people in Crimea are the Crimean Tatars, whom Stalin forcibly deported in May 1944 to Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, the Mari Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic and other regions of the USSR. In total, 238,500 people were deported from Crimea at that time, of which 205.9 thousand, that is, 86.4%, were women and children. In independent Ukraine, the Crimean Tatars were officially recognized as the indigenous people of Crimea and the descendants of the deportees were allowed to return to Crimea.
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June 06, 2024, 05:19:59 PM
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Has the territory of the Crimean peninsula always been inhabited by ethnic Russians? Not true. Let's take a look at who previously lived in Crimea and within which states.

Has the territory of the US and Canada always been inhabited by US citizens? Not true. Let's take a look at who previously lived in the North America:

With the Age of Exploration and the voyages of Christopher Columbus (starting in 1492), Europeans began to arrive in the Americas in large numbers and develop colonial ambitions for both North and South America.[citation needed] An influx of Europeans soon followed Columbus and overwhelmed native populations as North America became a staging ground for ongoing European rivalries. The continent was divided by three prominent European powers: England, France, and Spain. The influence of colonization by these states on North American cultures is still apparent today.
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As for the incidents you mentioned with Ukrainians shouting about Muscovites, you yourself write that this happened starting in 2014. That is, after the invasion of Russian troops into the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, which occurred in February 2014. And accordingly, the Ukrainians had the right to call for the killing of the occupiers.


By the way as regards Crimea it seems to me that you are not aware of the fact that basically Crimea has never been a part of Ukraine. This territory has always been populated by ethnic Russians. Crimea was handed over to Ukraine by Krushov in the 50-ies only due to the fact that it was more convenient for Moscow at that time to keep Crimea in the jurisdiction of Ukraine..

It was given to Ukraine at that time only because Russia and Ukraine have always been one country and authorities in Moscow did not differentiate between Russia and Ukraine. In fact many leaders of the Communist Party of the USSR came from Ukraine.

Therefore in my opinion annexation of Crimea by Russia in 2014 is not an invasion but the US and its Europaean vassals are using this as a pretext to blame Russia for an invasion which was not an invasion as such.

Again I like your logic and accroding to your logic I would say that in the 16th century the world witnessed an invasion of the Northern American continent by European settlers. This was an invasion and it must be stopped right away.  
You see, current states have territories and borders that are enshrined in relevant treaties with neighboring states, and are also recognized by all other states of the world by concluding diplomatic, consular and other agreements with them. All of them provide for the sovereignty and inviolability of existing borders, regardless of how these borders have changed over previous centuries. This is necessary in order to stop the endless wars for new territories that have almost always accompanied humanity. According to the UN Charter and other international agreements and world practice, unauthorized changes to existing borders are categorically prohibited and are recognized as territorial aggression with the imposition on such a state of the obligation to restore the previous territorial position and compensate the state that has become a victim of aggression for losses caused to it. This distinguishes the current civilization from previous ones, where there was lawlessness and the rule of the might.

As for Ukraine and the Russian Federation, such an agreement on the Russian-Ukrainian border, which determined the line of the land border between the countries, was concluded on January 28, 2003 and exists to this day. On the Russian side it was signed by President Vladimir Putin, on the Ukrainian side by President Leonid Kuchma.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BE_%D1%80 %D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE-
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Therefore, an attempt to arbitrarily change the generally recognized borders of Ukraine and Putin’s violation of the previously signed agreement on the land borders of Ukraine is considered aggression and a gross violation of international law with all the ensuing consequences that Russia is already beginning to experience.

 That is why Ukraine does not claim the return of territories by Russia, including Moscow itself within the borders of the state of Kievan Rus that once existed on the territory of Ukraine, and even the border Belgorod, Kursk, and Rostov regions that Ukraine had before the 1917 revolution. The above also applies to all states, including the United States with its internationally recognized borders.
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June 07, 2024, 04:39:56 AM
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You see, current states have territories and borders that are enshrined in relevant treaties with neighboring states, and are also recognized by all other states of the world by concluding diplomatic, consular and other agreements with them. All of them provide for the sovereignty and inviolability of existing borders, regardless of how these borders have changed over previous centuries. This is necessary in order to stop the endless wars for new territories that have almost always accompanied humanity. According to the UN Charter and other international agreements and world practice, unauthorized changes to existing borders are categorically prohibited and are recognized as territorial aggression with the imposition on such a state of the obligation to restore the previous territorial position and compensate the state that has become a victim of aggression for losses caused to it. This distinguishes the current civilization from previous ones, where there was lawlessness and the rule of the might.

As for Ukraine and the Russian Federation, such an agreement on the Russian-Ukrainian border, which determined the line of the land border between the countries, was concluded on January 28, 2003 and exists to this day. On the Russian side it was signed by President Vladimir Putin, on the Ukrainian side by President Leonid Kuchma.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BE_%D1%80 %D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE-
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Therefore, an attempt to arbitrarily change the generally recognized borders of Ukraine and Putin’s violation of the previously signed agreement on the land borders of Ukraine is considered aggression and a gross violation of international law with all the ensuing consequences that Russia is already beginning to experience.

 That is why Ukraine does not claim the return of territories by Russia, including Moscow itself within the borders of the state of Kievan Rus that once existed on the territory of Ukraine, and even the border Belgorod, Kursk, and Rostov regions that Ukraine had before the 1917 revolution. The above also applies to all states, including the United States with its internationally recognized borders.

In your reasoning you miss one important point: the US broke their promise that they would not move NATO to the east anymore.
Ukraine was on the brink of setting up NATO military bases that would point their missiles in the direction of Russia.
The US has already placed a number of bio laboratories in Ukraine that were developing biological weapons against Russia.
CIA has been executing massive information campaigns in Ukraine for at least 10 years that turned Ukraine into anti Russia. As a result masses of Ukrainian population have started hating Russia even before the war started.
Every single day any Ukrainian citizen watching TV was bomparded by anti Russian hate.  
What could Putin do with all that threat?

What would the US do if Russia pumped Mexico with tanks and missiles directed at the US, installed bio laboratories that could be developing biological weapons against American citizens, and conduct information campaign whereby every single citizen of Mexico watching TV would see anti American propaganda?    

  
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June 07, 2024, 05:03:59 AM
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Russian propagandists are now trying very hard to justify their stupid attack on Ukraine. How else can one justify this if not to paint the image of an enemy in the Ukrainians, who, supposedly, for some reason, were inflamed with hatred of the Russians. This is supposedly why they need to be killed.
Here is the video that I was talking about: https://vk.com/video34634651_456239742?list=5d6316a482eb331b1f
Unfortunately this video is in Russian and in the beginning you will see an ad which you will have to watch for half a minute or so and then you will see how these crazy Ukrainian nationalists were jumping in the streets of Kiev and shouted in Ukrainian that a Muscovite must be hanged and that those who were not jumping were Muscovites that had to be killed.
Information war is for real, if you're good at manipulating it to your advantage then you're more likely to win that war, that's why it's a good thing that you should never always believe whatever you see on the Internet, it's almost always going to end up with you being made a fool if you end up being a stupid and not the thinking for yourself kind of person, it's 2024, I think that people should have the common sense that whatever they see on the Internet should be taken with a grain of salt that verification will always be an important thing no matter where you are, it's sad that each other is painting the people that the other one has to die, this should never be the case, it was only Putin's ambition that has lead to this war, the ire should be on him if ever the people will start to get mad at each other.
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June 08, 2024, 06:24:00 AM
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it was only Putin's ambition that has lead to this war, the ire should be on him if ever the people will start to get mad at each other.

Unfortunately you don't understand geo politics, the grand scheme of things, so to say and you try to make it a personal matter.
The actions of Putin can be explained by the following: Russia does not want to follow the orders of Washington any more. Washington and the West at large have been exploiting the countries of the third world, they have been crushing any resistance anywhere in the world with military force but Putin won't stand down in the face of military threat of Washington.

If you don't understand  what I am writing here about let me make it clearer for you:  
You, guys living in the West have been having such high living standards because the West has been exploiting countries of the third world by bying raw materials on the cheap, manufacturing high value goods and then selling these goods back to these countries with high added value.

Basically you take raw materials at artificially low prices by way of bribing politicians in the thrid world countries and then sending us commodities. In result the western population enjoys extremely high living standards while the third world countries live in poverty and destitute.

Putin told to the West that this policy of unfair dstribution of profits can not be tolerated by Russia any more.

Because of that Washington arranged a coup in Ukraine in 2014 and was about to install NATO military bases there.

Putin was forced to make a move and now you say that Putin is Hitler.

In reality Hitler is Washington but Washingtom is a very clever Hitler. Washington started a proxy war in Ukraine and blamed it all on Russia.

This kind of behavoir is very typical of Washington because they used to call Vietnam, Afganistan, Libiya etc. the axis of evil or terrorist states.        

In reality Washington itself is a terrorist state, a rogue state, etc.

You, guys, want to have high living standards but we don't want to live in poverty and destitute. So Putin is like a freedom fighter. In this case Russia is a freedom fighter, economic freedom fighter.

Did you get it?
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In your reasoning you miss one important point: the US broke their promise that they would not move NATO to the east anymore.
Ukraine was on the brink of setting up NATO military bases that would point their missiles in the direction of Russia.
The US has already placed a number of bio laboratories in Ukraine that were developing biological weapons against Russia.
CIA has been executing massive information campaigns in Ukraine for at least 10 years that turned Ukraine into anti Russia. As a result masses of Ukrainian population have started hating Russia even before the war started.
Every single day any Ukrainian citizen watching TV was bomparded by anti Russian hate.  
What could Putin do with all that threat?

You yourself admitted that such a promise, if it existed at all, was given in a private conversation to the first and last president of the USSR, Gorbachev, and therefore such a promise does not have any legal consequences for states.

And such a promise could not even be fulfilled in principle, since according to Article 10 of the North Atlantic Treaty establishing NATO, “The Contracting Parties may, by general consent, invite any other European state capable of developing the principles of this Treaty and making its contribution to the security of the North Atlantic region to join to this Agreement." This means that any European state at any time has the right to express a desire to become a new NATO member, and this issue is decided by all NATO member states, and not just the United States. The US representative had no right to make such a promise, since it was obviously impossible to fulfill.

What did Russia achieve by attacking Ukraine and trying to destroy it?
Because of this attack, Sweden and Finland became new members of NATO, and Ukraine will join this alliance no later than the end of the war and will definitely direct its missiles towards Russia as its most dangerous neighbor.

And your information that even before the war hatred of Russians was incited in Ukraine is nothing more than the fantasies of Kremlin propagandists, who somehow needed to explain to their citizens the reason for the attack on Ukraine. And now this hatred really exists and it is growing, as the Russian occupiers continue to invade the territory of Ukraine and continue to kill its citizens.
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You yourself admitted that such a promise, if it existed at all, was given in a private conversation to the first and last president of the USSR, Gorbachev, and therefore such a promise does not have any legal consequences for states.

And such a promise could not even be fulfilled in principle, since according to Article 10 of the North Atlantic Treaty establishing NATO, “The Contracting Parties may, by general consent, invite any other European state capable of developing the principles of this Treaty and making its contribution to the security of the North Atlantic region to join to this Agreement." This means that any European state at any time has the right to express a desire to become a new NATO member, and this issue is decided by all NATO member states, and not just the United States. The US representative had no right to make such a promise, since it was obviously impossible to fulfill.

Listen. I don't care about the Article 10 of the NATO. I don't give a f..ck.

The reality is that NATO has been moving eastward despite the fact that about 20 years ago Putin publicly proposed that Russia join NATO.

When you say that any European state at any time has the right to express a desire to become a new NATO member I see in my mind a corrupt politician of that European state who has been bought off by Washington.
I believe that sooner or later all these corrupt politicians will be voted out of office by their electorate. This will just take some time.

What I do is I paint a real picture whereas you reply formally and anyone with any brain can see that you give a formal reply which does not mean anything. It's just words without any meaning.

Therfore by your reply you acknowledge that the US ia global bully that can do whatever it wants without any responsibility but as soon as someone like Libiya or Russia speaks the truth the US wants to crush him like a fly. But it won't happen this time. Wake up. The age of a great empire is coming to an end.  
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What did Russia achieve by attacking Ukraine and trying to destroy it?
Because of this attack, Sweden and Finland became new members of NATO, and Ukraine will join this alliance no later than the end of the war and will definitely direct its missiles towards Russia as its most dangerous neighbor.


Russia does not have any plans to destroy Ukraine. The goal of this military operation is demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine because it was on the brink of installing NATO bases with missiles pointed in the direction of Russia.   
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And your information that even before the war hatred of Russians was incited in Ukraine is nothing more than the fantasies of Kremlin propagandists, who somehow needed to explain to their citizens the reason for the attack on Ukraine. And now this hatred really exists and it is growing, as the Russian occupiers continue to invade the territory of Ukraine and continue to kill its citizens.

No this is no fantasy. It is you who is living in the dream world or rather in the world of Washington lies.
The Russian forces continue to kill those who don't want to be demilitarized and denazified. If the Ukrainian army surrended then there would be no more killings because Ukrainians are our brothers who have been subjected to mass psychosis.
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And your information that even before the war hatred of Russians was incited in Ukraine is nothing more than the fantasies of Kremlin propagandists, who somehow needed to explain to their citizens the reason for the attack on Ukraine. And now this hatred really exists and it is growing, as the Russian occupiers continue to invade the territory of Ukraine and continue to kill its citizens.

No this is no fantasy. It is you who is living in the dream world or rather in the world of Washington lies.
The Russian forces continue to kill those who don't want to be demilitarized and denazified. If the Ukrainian army surrended then there would be no more killings because Ukrainians are our brothers who have been subjected to mass psychosis.
Well, first of all,  don’t come to their brothers’ house with weapons and start killing them right away. Those who do this, and the entire Russian people are doing this now, become the worst enemies of the Ukrainians. Therefore, do not impose yourself on the Ukrainians as brothers. You are animals, the ancestors of the Mongol-Tatars.

Secondly, demilitarization means the desire of the Russians to destroy the armed forces of Ukraine, and denazification means the destruction of Ukraine as a sovereign state and Ukrainians as a nation. If the Kremlin hasn’t understood yet, Biden recently said that Russia will not bring Ukraine to its knees.

Thirdly, Ukraine and Ukrainians have already seen enough of what Russian beasts did in Bucha and other populated areas during their temporary occupation. Have you heard such a popular expression attributed to Alexander Nevsky: “Whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword.” This is exactly what will happen to the Russian occupiers.
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Well, first of all,  don’t come to their brothers’ house with weapons and start killing them right away. Those who do this, and the entire Russian people are doing this now, become the worst enemies of the Ukrainians. Therefore, do not impose yourself on the Ukrainians as brothers. You are animals, the ancestors of the Mongol-Tatars.


The Russians came to their Ukrainian brothers because these brothers turned themselves into traitors and sold themselves to Biden and the company. They were about to let their US masters to install NATO military bases in Ukraine with misiles directed at Russia.

This is a treason. That's why Ukraine must be demilitarized and denazified.   
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Secondly, demilitarization means the desire of the Russians to destroy the armed forces of Ukraine, and denazification means the destruction of Ukraine as a sovereign state and Ukrainians as a nation. If the Kremlin hasn’t understood yet, Biden recently said that Russia will not bring Ukraine to its knees.


Regrattably this must be done because the armed forces of Ukraine have been sold to their US masters. Ukraine is governed not be Zelensky but by Washington. I don't give a f..ck to what this senile Biden tells about Ukraine. 
Biden is a lier and a murderer of Ukrainian people because he wants Ukraine to fight with Russia up to the last Ukrainian soldier.
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June 09, 2024, 06:05:48 PM
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Thirdly, Ukraine and Ukrainians have already seen enough of what Russian beasts did in Bucha and other populated areas during their temporary occupation.

The events in Bucha is a lie and a provocation concocted by CIA and fascist Ukrainian nationalists.
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