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When they abuse, that also means they are already addicted. That itself is already a punishment for the gamblers who couldn't stop despite losing money. Some of them may even be trying to rob some things from someone in order to keep up their addiction. This is already a struggle. True that it is a struggle and right on that if they're abusing things just to gamble and gambling per se, that only means that they can't deny their addiction. That only proves that the addiction on them is stronger than the will to do the right thing of not abusing any means in gambling. This doesn't need to be argued though. If they turned gambling into their major source of income, it's their choice and we know how it ends to such stories if they don't quit. There are many stories of these people only a few have successfully got out of the addiction and gotten back up on their feet to a better life.
It's an endless argument honestly and believe me that there are people that will argue to you just to justify what they are up with their gambling addiction. They will even keep it up until they are left with nothing and that's the hardest part that they can no longer control themselves and at the same time, they've got no face to show to their relatives because of what they're experiencing.
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July 25, 2023, 01:43:01 PM |
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Gambling abuse is not a crime, so nothing like prosecution.
Actually gambling abuse is a crime, almost every organization are built and running using policies or terms and conditions, and if you are a defaulter of the companies terms and conditions or policy you are automatically a culprit, not all culprits are being prosecuted for their crime often times the law enforcers are the ones to surfer the consequences. I have witnessed a situation whereby an under age( not up to 18) went to a casino hall and was gambling, after a while some cops came in and arrested the manager and its workers for going against the companies policy by approving an under age gambler in the casino, the young gambler was left with advice by the cops but the manager paid severely for compromising. from the above experience, gambling abuse is not just subjected to how a gambler spends his finance in gambling, under age gamblers are all abusers. Abuse and addiction are just the same.
Not all abusers are addicted to gambling vise versa. Let me tell you something, there is nothing called gambling abuse. You can make use of your search engine for it. What I do see are gambling addiction and problem gambling. Just because I read about gambling abuse first on this thread, there is nothing I can relate it more to than gambling addiction, although there is nothing called gambling abuse, it is wrong. If you abuse a child, that is called child abuse. If you abuse drug, that is called drug abuse. Drug addiction. In gambling, it is just called gambling addiction or problem gambling. If someone accept underage gambling on your online gambling site or offline based and the person got arrested. You are just away from this discussion and off-topic because what we are discussing is not about underage gambling.
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July 25, 2023, 02:08:06 PM |
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Comparing the abuse of a drug like Tramadol with the misuse of gambling, a leisure activity turned addiction, is quite enlightening. Your analogy presents a striking image. But let me throw a spanner into the works here...
It's a bit tricky to categorize gambling as 'abuse' when used outside its entertainment purpose because it becomes subjective. Who determines what entertainment is? How do we categorize risk-taking? After all, people gamble for the thrill, which might also be seen as a source of entertainment for them.
As for prosecuting 'gambling abusers', it opens a whole can of worms. How do we define the threshold of abuse? The problem is not with gambling itself, but the tendency to get addicted and lose control.
So, while I see where you're coming from, the path to 'criminalizing' excessive gambling is fraught with too many uncertainties. It's a Pandora's Box that's perhaps better left unopened...
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After reading the whole story, I just churkle because I remembered what my grandma used to say to me: "Too much of everything is abuse." and the reason for her saying that to me was after I consumed a large amount of milk and began to vomit and Stooling, I totally fell sick and was hospitalised for almost a week. In relation to what I just said and about your narration and gambling, I would say that too much of everything is abuse. Food can be abused, drugs can be abused, positions can be abused, and many other things can be abused, and there are mostly some of them that you can't do anything about, no matter how hard you try. Can you ask someone who doesn't have a job to stop gambling? Yes, you can, but they will not stop because they are using it as a means of earning income. Although it still also depends on the individual, like I said before, I know of someone who is fully into gambling but is still paying his bills and taking care of his home, but with some other gamblers, it's usually the opposite.
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Gambling abuse is simply gambling addiction. Everyone indeed is allowed to play and gamble. Some are financially benefiting from it and some are being entertained from doing so. Gambling for a long period of time within a day does not guarantee abad outcome. What does, is simply instances wherein emotion becomes an innate drive to go for more despite of the situation or circumstances; huge loss. Time after time, either a winning or losing bet, you'd be wanting for more in order to get back with the losses. And once you hit a huge win and have already got back with that amount, you'd be desiring for profit afterwards. Then the unfortunate will again happen, and that would be a cycle. Key player here is our emotion and our discipline with ourselves. Is gambling a dangerous activity? No, it is our intention which is.
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What is Gambling Abuse? Gambling abuse is simply defined as gambling with a motive that is different from the real purpose why gambling is in existence.
Let me also say my view on "Gambling Abuse". Gambling Abuse is the process of unfaithful to the casino which is also violating the terms and conditions of the casino. Therefore, many gamblers abuse their gamblings to play fast game. Op drug abuse is different from gambling Abuse. Drug abuse is the over use of the drugs or use the drug with a doctor prescription. But in gambling Abuse you play a smart game to with the bet or slot.
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After reading the whole story, I just churkle because I remembered what my grandma used to say to me: "Too much of everything is abuse." and the reason for her saying that to me was after I consumed a large amount of milk and began to vomit and Stooling, I totally fell sick and was hospitalised for almost a week. In relation to what I just said and about your narration and gambling, I would say that too much of everything is abuse. Food can be abused, drugs can be abused, positions can be abused, and many other things can be abused, and there are mostly some of them that you can't do anything about, no matter how hard you try. Can you ask someone who doesn't have a job to stop gambling? Yes, you can, but they will not stop because they are using it as a means of earning income. Although it still also depends on the individual, like I said before, I know of someone who is fully into gambling but is still paying his bills and taking care of his home, but with some other gamblers, it's usually the opposite.
Life has so much to offer that concentrating on a single thing or activity exclusively to the detriment of the rest of them is a mistake, gambling is entertaining for sure but to use it as our sole source of entertainment is shortsighted, however as you said once people reach that point it is almost impossible to convince them to stop, that realization needs to come from within them, and most of the time this only happens once they have lost everything.
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July 26, 2023, 08:13:46 PM |
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What is Gambling Abuse? Gambling abuse is simply defined as gambling with a motive that is different from the real purpose why gambling is in existence.
Let me also say my view on "Gambling Abuse". Gambling Abuse is the process of unfaithful to the casino which is also violating the terms and conditions of the casino. Therefore, many gamblers abuse their gamblings to play fast game. Op drug abuse is different from gambling Abuse. Drug abuse is the over use of the drugs or use the drug with a doctor prescription. But in gambling Abuse you play a smart game to with the bet or slot. What you're talking about is Casino Abuse. Gambling abuse is Gambling addiction really. Although I understand why it's a bit of a misnomer too which is why I don't really use it as much as Fiverstar does. In any case while you're right about one thing and I'm not gonna take that away from you, Casino abuse is a much better term for it since it's not the act thereof of gambling that you're abusing but the vulnerabilities that the casino overlooked that you're taking advantage of. Gambling Abuse still is a term suited for the act of abusing gambling for the highs and the dopamine hits as well as the prospect of earning money. At the end of the day let's just all agree that everything of excess is bad and should not be condoned, same goes with gambling even if you're winning a fuck ton of money from it.
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July 27, 2023, 06:45:23 AM |
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After reading the whole story, I just churkle because I remembered what my grandma used to say to me: "Too much of everything is abuse." and the reason for her saying that to me was after I consumed a large amount of milk and began to vomit and Stooling, I totally fell sick and was hospitalised for almost a week. In relation to what I just said and about your narration and gambling, I would say that too much of everything is abuse. Food can be abused, drugs can be abused, positions can be abused, and many other things can be abused, and there are mostly some of them that you can't do anything about, no matter how hard you try. Can you ask someone who doesn't have a job to stop gambling? Yes, you can, but they will not stop because they are using it as a means of earning income. Although it still also depends on the individual, like I said before, I know of someone who is fully into gambling but is still paying his bills and taking care of his home, but with some other gamblers, it's usually the opposite.
Well, I think the context of the subject here is a bit different than what you described, we all know that excessive use of something is harmful to a person, whether it's abusing that thing or not, it's definitely not good for your own self, so when you do something that isn't good for yourself, you are not lawfully punishable for that since you are already punishing yourself by doing that, and that is exactly what is wrong with the point OP is trying to make. When a person is using gambling as a way to earn money and losing all their money and stuff, there is no law that can ask them to stop, unless the constitutions of that country have a rule for it because the person is not abusing the casino as they are doing their business and a person gambling excessively is not an abuse to their business, so I don't see why a person should be punishable for doing that.
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Gambling has no light at the end of it's tunnel, you will have to crawl your way out of it through out, it's total darkness.
All I can say is either abuse or addiction they both sound the same to me, and too much of everything is not always healthy for humans.
This is not a job or a business that produces a product where you can start marketing and making money, you have no services you are rendering to people, it's not about skills but yes it has something to do with fun.
Having fun and making money out of it is good, but when it gets too much into your head it's going to possibly ruin you, that's where you will start having expectations and dreams.
Have fun with gambling, only when you have spare money, and don't ever think about life changing opportunities using gambling, total darkness is what awaits you if you do.
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July 27, 2023, 09:45:57 AM |
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Gambling has no light at the end of it's tunnel, you will have to crawl your way out of it through out, it's total darkness.
All I can say is either abuse or addiction they both sound the same to me, and too much of everything is not always healthy for humans.
This is not a job or a business that produces a product where you can start marketing and making money, you have no services you are rendering to people, it's not about skills but yes it has something to do with fun.
Having fun and making money out of it is good, but when it gets too much into your head it's going to possibly ruin you, that's where you will start having expectations and dreams.
Have fun with gambling, only when you have spare money, and don't ever think about life changing opportunities using gambling, total darkness is what awaits you if you do.
Anything done in excess is not good for us, so we must limit it. The abuse of gambling is more for someone who does it to win the game. But he didn't think about what effect he would receive after everything ended. If someone already consumes and uses drugs excessively, he has abused the rules for using those drugs. And that is also the same as what is done by someone who gambles excessively, where he no longer sees gambling as a form of entertainment but as a way to make money. And abuse can make someone addicted and everything will change for the worse.
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Not all gambling is wrong, in my opinion we have to position our way of gambling that is good, correct and disciplined according to applicable rules, so don't think that gambling is wrong. some people gamble to get additional family finances and there are also people who like it as a hobby and some just to fill their spare time. I see people around me who have been gambling financially for a long time, their families are quite advanced, before they were still barely able and that is what motivated me to gamble, yes even though not all of them are successful, at least I know about gambling and of course I know all the consequences.
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July 27, 2023, 04:03:19 PM |
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I think it's not about abuse, but not knowing what it could do to you in the long term is the problem. Imagine, it's you who is being abused, not gambling. Gambling must be controlled, and your urge to gamble should be managed. It's weird to use "abuse" with "gambling" because it's not being used as something to be abused.
The sad thing about that is that people already know and have the knowledge for what is coming towards them if they chose to walk down that path without any precautions with them yet they still do it anyway with the hopes that they could bring a massive amount in their lifetime by gambling, but in the end, they found their own selves in the exact opposite situation because they fail to set boundaries before starting. By that time, they are already one of the addicted gamblers even if they themselves don't want to be in that position.
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July 29, 2023, 07:46:15 PM |
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I think it's not about abuse, but not knowing what it could do to you in the long term is the problem. Imagine, it's you who is being abused, not gambling. Gambling must be controlled, and your urge to gamble should be managed. It's weird to use "abuse" with "gambling" because it's not being used as something to be abused.
The sad thing about that is that people already know and have the knowledge for what is coming towards them if they chose to walk down that path without any precautions with them yet they still do it anyway with the hopes that they could bring a massive amount in their lifetime by gambling, but in the end, they found their own selves in the exact opposite situation because they fail to set boundaries before starting. By that time, they are already one of the addicted gamblers even if they themselves don't want to be in that position. People instead of thinking themselves as average think they are exceptional, this means that when we tell them that on average they will lose money when they gamble they will simply disregard those concerns by thinking that since they are exceptional then they will get exceptional results when they gamble too, and as such they can make profits with it, then when reality does not align with their beliefs they cannot withstand it and try to recover what they have lost, an attitude that as we know can only produce even more losses.
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July 29, 2023, 09:36:47 PM |
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I think it's not about abuse, but not knowing what it could do to you in the long term is the problem. Imagine, it's you who is being abused, not gambling. Gambling must be controlled, and your urge to gamble should be managed. It's weird to use "abuse" with "gambling" because it's not being used as something to be abused.
The sad thing about that is that people already know and have the knowledge for what is coming towards them if they chose to walk down that path without any precautions with them yet they still do it anyway with the hopes that they could bring a massive amount in their lifetime by gambling, but in the end, they found their own selves in the exact opposite situation because they fail to set boundaries before starting. By that time, they are already one of the addicted gamblers even if they themselves don't want to be in that position. They are aware but can't control their self just because of the pleasure and excitement that they get from gambling and they forget to stay in control. I also don't like the term abuse and its ok to use the term, irresponsible gambler because this is all about you and you discipline, so if you fail to do this then its not an abuse, its all your fault in the first place. Gambling is there to do their business, and if you become addict, that's your emotional problem so what you can do right now is to think how to control yourself and be responsible.
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July 29, 2023, 11:23:48 PM |
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I think it's not about abuse, but not knowing what it could do to you in the long term is the problem. Imagine, it's you who is being abused, not gambling. Gambling must be controlled, and your urge to gamble should be managed. It's weird to use "abuse" with "gambling" because it's not being used as something to be abused.
The sad thing about that is that people already know and have the knowledge for what is coming towards them if they chose to walk down that path without any precautions with them yet they still do it anyway with the hopes that they could bring a massive amount in their lifetime by gambling, but in the end, they found their own selves in the exact opposite situation because they fail to set boundaries before starting. By that time, they are already one of the addicted gamblers even if they themselves don't want to be in that position. They are aware but can't control their self just because of the pleasure and excitement that they get from gambling and they forget to stay in control. I also don't like the term abuse and its ok to use the term, irresponsible gambler because this is all about you and you discipline, so if you fail to do this then its not an abuse, its all your fault in the first place. Gambling is there to do their business, and if you become addict, that's your emotional problem so what you can do right now is to think how to control yourself and be responsible. Yes, the word looks as if like the gambling platform have cheated or forced you to gamble. Gambling is pure business and the same is taken forward by them. It is upto the gambler whether to use it or not. Further the control and other things were upon the gambler and not on the gambling platform. Only thing the gambling platforms provide is a warning that already they've lost so and so in the last 24hrs or won specific amount. This might give some reminder to stop for the day.
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July 29, 2023, 11:34:52 PM |
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Not all gambling is wrong, in my opinion we have to position our way of gambling that is good, correct and disciplined according to applicable rules, so don't think that gambling is wrong. some people gamble to get additional family finances and there are also people who like it as a hobby and some just to fill their spare time. I see people around me who have been gambling financially for a long time, their families are quite advanced, before they were still barely able and that is what motivated me to gamble, yes even though not all of them are successful, at least I know about gambling and of course I know all the consequences.
Gambling will go wrong depending on how the person plays and arranges their game. As a hobby or entertainment, but if it is used as the main income in my opinion it is not good, because the risk of gambling is very high when you lose. Gambling can get a person addicted if they can't control how much they have to bet, so there are no limits. from what you said that some of your friends are financially advanced enough by gambling, it means your friends have a good strategy in gambling. But some negatives will still be there, as much as possible to stay on the right track and spend minimal money on gambling.
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July 30, 2023, 05:44:11 AM |
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Not all gambling is wrong, in my opinion we have to position our way of gambling that is good, correct and disciplined according to applicable rules, so don't think that gambling is wrong. some people gamble to get additional family finances and there are also people who like it as a hobby and some just to fill their spare time. I see people around me who have been gambling financially for a long time, their families are quite advanced, before they were still barely able and that is what motivated me to gamble, yes even though not all of them are successful, at least I know about gambling and of course I know all the consequences.
Gambling will go wrong depending on how the person plays and arranges their game. As a hobby or entertainment, but if it is used as the main income in my opinion it is not good, because the risk of gambling is very high when you lose. Gambling can get a person addicted if they can't control how much they have to bet, so there are no limits. from what you said that some of your friends are financially advanced enough by gambling, it means your friends have a good strategy in gambling. But some negatives will still be there, as much as possible to stay on the right track and spend minimal money on gambling. Yeah, but if you look at it, even if you enjoy the game, as some point, and unless you really have deep pockets and money to burn, you will have to think on how much money you actually spend on gambling. And maybe this alone will make you stop or at least lose some interest on playing with fun because of the total and accumulated money that you have lost. Maybe just schedule like 1 or 2 days for gambling and that's it. However, we all know that it's very different for those who are really hook and addicted. As it is very difficult to get it out of the system unless they really wanted to quit for good.
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People do a lot of things to play gambling and one of these people gets addicted to a different purpose because they win or because they lose a lot of money. Gambling entertainment just gives what they are offered in the end its the person's responsibility if they will continue this expensive habit or not. The reason why some of them can't control themselves is cause of suicidal due to the amount of debts and one of their decision to get away from it.
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July 30, 2023, 11:49:11 AM |
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Hi guys..
What is Gambling Abuse? Gambling abuse is simply defined as gambling with a motive that is different from the real purpose why gambling is in existence.
There is no spelt out rule or statement that says that the essence of gambling is for entertainment. Gambling purpose is not for entertainment only because both the owners of the gambling companies wants to make profits because they are into business and the people that are gambling still want to win big because they invested money. So it is only a few people that see it as an entertainment. It is just up to you to treat gambling how you see it, but there is no hard statement or information that says that the purpose of gambling is for entertainment. Gambling means different thing to different people and also the owner of the casino.
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