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August 14, 2023, 07:10:17 AM
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Generally, when a family has financial issues, they will think of this thing themselves that they shouldn't have a lot of children because they won't be able to feed them all, but when a family has no such issues, they would barely think of the economic advantages or disadvantages unless there is an official rule of not having a lot of children.

I believe it has the positive and the negative like you have said also even from the family side. What happens in the family can affect or help the country but I think like the China example, it has helped their economy. Their large population help them to grow in technology faster than they would if only they were few because they increased in joining resources and creating research to grow their economy. Maybe now they have used family planning method to help reduce the rate of population growth but their numbers help to grow them also.

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August 14, 2023, 10:51:41 AM
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There has never been a day that I cherish having plenty children as a blessing. It's actually there's no plan or the partner's just want to test their God. How can you be planning to have 5 kids even in a stable economy and you don't have formal education. Let's say you have a formal education and you have good plans for your children to have the best than you do, what makes you think in the nearest future that things would remain the same?
Let a lone a poor man who can barely feed three times a day or have the 6 classes of food eaten each day. They just have this belief that it's God that gives children and He takes care of them. That mentality is just ignorance I can say. Plan your life and that of your children.
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August 14, 2023, 07:16:57 PM
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Is there an effect both positive or negative to the county's economy when couples have plenty children?

In the past before the current economic era, around the 15th century and the beginning of the French industrial revolution, having many children was seen as fertility and good for both the family work force and country's also. The labour force was majorly manual and those who worked at the plantations were sort after as able bodied men or women.

But at the moment, what is the viability of having many children especially as it could reduce the per capital income.

I think it's the dream of many people to have a complete family, but it comes with high responsibility and is expensive to raise children. In most developed countries, it is becoming a struggle to keep the population growth up within the native populations, because it can be hard enough to buy or even rent these days, so starting a family has all these additional obstacles. So many people are being put into debt at the earliest ages, with university degrees that cost tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars and taking a long time to pay off. While others may have children and struggle to support them, the most responsible are perhaps putting off the decision and may even leave it later than is wise.
While most of the couples have struggles in raising their kids and enjoying the country’s provisions, but I don’t see it why most of these couples still have hard time to control the birth rate of their kids. Maybe because of their wrong mindset that when they have more kids, there will be bigger chances that they will not die poorly because they have a lot of kids to rely on. But how will be the present and future of these kids? Having a high populated country will cause a lot of negative factors and one of them is that these kids will experience low quality of living especially if their parents are incapable to support their basic needs in the long term.

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August 14, 2023, 07:38:10 PM
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While most of the couples have struggles in raising their kids and enjoying the country’s provisions, but I don’t see it why most of these couples still have hard time to control the birth rate of their kids. Maybe because of their wrong mindset that when they have more kids, there will be bigger chances that they will not die poorly because they have a lot of kids to rely on. But how will be the present and future of these kids? Having a high populated country will cause a lot of negative factors and one of them is that these kids will experience low quality of living especially if their parents are incapable to support their basic needs in the long term.
I agreed with you partially because we have both effects with positive and negative but right now we are having many different scenes around the world as well which are giving us completely different view about this all like in developed countries couples are not doing things which can give them positive of this all even many countries are now on risk just because of having few children's as their population is on decline, and we have completely different story in many developing countries specially in Africa and Asia which populations are growing very fast, and they are not able to compete with this all even they are lacking food education facilities and many other things which are important for the life we need better education about this all because things like these need global talk with all aspects.

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August 15, 2023, 06:13:38 AM
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The problem with today's world is that low IQ people are having dozens of children each, while those with high IQ are not having children. As a result of this, overall quality of the human race is going down. On top of all this, successive wars and battles have resulted in the deaths of large number of high-IQ human beings. Most of the deaths from WW1 and WW2 occurred in Europe and East Asia, where the IQ levels are higher than global average. And dictatorships such as those of Mao and Stalin killed tens of millions of people in the same region.

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August 15, 2023, 09:47:17 AM
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The problem with today's world is that low IQ people are having dozens of children each, while those with high IQ are not having children. As a result of this, overall quality of the human race is going down. On top of all this, successive wars and battles have resulted in the deaths of large number of high-IQ human beings. Most of the deaths from WW1 and WW2 occurred in Europe and East Asia, where the IQ levels are higher than global average. And dictatorships such as those of Mao and Stalin killed tens of millions of people in the same region.
It's overly simplistic to blame today's problems on IQ-based birth rates. Demographic changes are important, but environmental factors, technology, and social institutions also shape societies. You oversimplify population shifts by linking World War I and World War II, totalitarian governments, and IQ drops. History shows that several factors cause civilizations to grow and fall. Event ups and downs are hard to attribute to intellect alone. War and dictatorships obscure regional IQ levels, as climate, agriculture, trade, and society structure affect regional growth. It's necessary to study all of human history, not simply a few occurrences

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August 15, 2023, 10:24:20 AM
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Is there an effect both positive or negative to the county's economy when couples have plenty children?

In the past before the current economic era, around the 15th century and the beginning of the French industrial revolution, having many children was seen as fertility and good for both the family work force and country's also. The labour force was majorly manual and those who worked at the plantations were sort after as able bodied men or women.

But at the moment, what is the viability of having many children especially as it could reduce the per capital income.

I think it's the dream of many people to have a complete family, but it comes with high responsibility and is expensive to raise children. In most developed countries, it is becoming a struggle to keep the population growth up within the native populations, because it can be hard enough to buy or even rent these days, so starting a family has all these additional obstacles. So many people are being put into debt at the earliest ages, with university degrees that cost tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars and taking a long time to pay off. While others may have children and struggle to support them, the most responsible are perhaps putting off the decision and may even leave it later than is wise.
While most of the couples have struggles in raising their kids and enjoying the country’s provisions, but I don’t see it why most of these couples still have hard time to control the birth rate of their kids. Maybe because of their wrong mindset that when they have more kids, there will be bigger chances that they will not die poorly because they have a lot of kids to rely on. But how will be the present and future of these kids? Having a high populated country will cause a lot of negative factors and one of them is that these kids will experience low quality of living especially if their parents are incapable to support their basic needs in the long term.

That is actually a worse thinking of a couple in building a family, they think kids as an investment where in the future they wouldn't be needed to work since they have their children to provide their needs. With that thinking they tend to increase the number of their child so it's like the more, the merrier that will provide for them. You are actually right, if the more child they need to support and provide their needs, for sure it will lessen their budget to provide for the kids like their well and healthy environment, education, clothes, having their own room as their privacy and many more.

If this causes the family to go poverty due to many supports needed by the kids, of course they will ask from the government help like financial support and scholarship. Just imagine many couples do this kind of thing what would might happen in the future? They really need to be guided with family planning knowledge so they would be aware of the effects of increasing of number of kids.

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Generally, when a family has financial issues, they will think of this thing themselves that they shouldn't have a lot of children because they won't be able to feed them all, but when a family has no such issues, they would barely think of the economic advantages or disadvantages unless there is an official rule of not having a lot of children.

I believe it has the positive and the negative like you have said also even from the family side. What happens in the family can affect or help the country but I think like the China example, it has helped their economy. Their large population help them to grow in technology faster than they would if only they were few because they increased in joining resources and creating research to grow their economy. Maybe now they have used family planning method to help reduce the rate of population growth but their numbers help to grow them also.

It has more manpower, and you are right, innovation in technology keeps improving because there are new smart people that are changing their current technology, but right now their policy, I think it is already ended, because they see that there are more old people in their country than young people, and also because people in China got used to the policy that others tend to not want to have a child. It seems positive to have fewer children than others, but in the long run, the country will suffer.
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It has more manpower, and you are right, innovation in technology keeps improving because there are new smart people that are changing their current technology, but right now their policy, I think it is already ended, because they see that there are more old people in their country than young people, and also because people in China got used to the policy that others tend to not want to have a child. It seems positive to have fewer children than others, but in the long run, the country will suffer.
China stands as a shining example of a nation that has cultivated successful individuals through the unwavering faith of its citizens. If you delve into Chinese culture, you'll discover that within families, there exists a tradition of providing economic support to those members who haven't yet achieved financial independence. This assistance takes the form not merely of money, but of business enterprises that continue to generate income even beyond the owner's lifetime.

For those who lack financially independent family members, the path demands intensified efforts. Should they not succumb to despair, they often find themselves employed by Chinese companies, enjoying salaries that surpass the norm.

The culture in China thrives on mutual aid and profound solidarity. Such a model is worthy of emulation by other developing nations, especially considering China's current status as an economic powerhouse that wields significant influence on the global stage.

This serves as compelling evidence that a multitude of progeny need not inherently hinder economic progress; the crux lies in adept management.
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In as far as I believe that they're not rubbish human, their activities might be term rubbish. Not everyone is loyal to their country and this is where the issue of terrorism and banditry comes in. Such individual become rubbish when his/her attitude is inimical to the country's economy. Larger population is good when everyone is engaged in meaningful skills directly or indirectly, educated or uneducated. But despite its advantages, it possess some red lights such as crowd and noise pollution, congestion and over population. It's important to put a check on to birth rate despite the conducive of the economy.

We see the behavior of these bad people but we don't see the reason through which they become bad so it's the responsibility of every nation to work for the reduction of poverty so no one will be engaged in such a bad activities. Everyone would have noticed that wealthy people do not get involved in bad activities but poverty makes a man useless which lead him to follow bad path.

 Although pollution are increasing but I think that pollution can be controlled but population cannot be controlled. I think Instead of controlling population nations should set some rules to reduce the population.









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Is there an effect both positive or negative to the county's economy when couples have plenty children?

In the past before the current economic era, around the 15th century and the beginning of the French industrial revolution, having many children was seen as fertility and good for both the family work force and country's also. The labour force was majorly manual and those who worked at the plantations were sort after as able bodied men or women.

But at the moment, what is the viability of having many children especially as it could reduce the per capital income.

Having plenty of children can have both positive and negative effects on the national economy of a country.

On one hand,a larger population can contribute to a larger work force and potential economic growth.
On the other hand,it can also strain resources and lead to higher dependency ratios.
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Many people are afraid of having many children because they feel that it is a hassle to take care of children, they think that children waste time and reduce productivity, this has been taught since school, when I was in elementary school, the teacher said that later I must have a maximum of 2 children, if possible having 1 is better because it can guarantee their education to the fullest, now many developed countries are making programs or incentives to have many children.


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There has never been a day that I cherish having plenty children as a blessing. It's actually there's no plan or the partner's just want to test their God. How can you be planning to have 5 kids even in a stable economy and you don't have formal education. Let's say you have a formal education and you have good plans for your children to have the best than you do, what makes you think in the nearest future that things would remain the same?
Let a lone a poor man who can barely feed three times a day or have the 6 classes of food eaten each day. They just have this belief that it's God that gives children and He takes care of them. That mentality is just ignorance I can say. Plan your life and that of your children.
I agree with your opinion that children are God's gifts that must be cared for. And God will never test his servant beyond the ability of his servant.

I am the 7th child out of 10 siblings. Family economic problems have always been a frightening specter because they can give more worries to the family. and I was abandoned by my late father since I was 4 years old and now I am 22 years old. and this is proof that God created man along with his sustenance. It's not something miraculous that I can carry out my education up to university despite a difficult economy, but as long as we have the desire and keep trying there will always be a way to achieve it.

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Having many kids may contribute immensely to a country's economy as it will ensure a burgeoning youthful population. However, in the absence of policies set up to cater for the societal nurturing of these kids or full-grown youth, the entire idea will be detrimental to the country's economic growth due to overpopulation.

So, I think infrastructural developments should be put in place before the idea of birthing numerous kids. If these kids are formally and informally educated, that is, having formal and informal skills, they will be able to promote the nation's industrial aspirations, and earn from their skills and that will yield ripple effects in the economy.

Thanks for your post.
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To me having plenty children isnof no use and it is just a way to create over population in a country. This is the major problem. China is facing now and they are trying hard to control it so that the population will not excess the total plan and provisions for the country. I think there are more safer ways to regulate over population which involves control birth rate.
 The government are mostly responsible for restructuring of her country in a way that citizens will not keep producing children unnecessary. There are laws that need to be set aside to reduce over population then there is uncontrollable birth rate.
You are right. Not just China is suffering from this problem but even other developed countries as well. While it’s good to see a complete family with their parents raising their kids, but with the present economic problems, basic necessities prices are increasing, services are becoming more expensive, how can a low earning parents feed their children and provide their basic needs? For sure, not only the parents will struggle but also their children as well will be deprived from living a quality life. So if the rate of birth control will be limited and the government will set minimum number of children in each family, I guess that will be a big help for the future parents and for the unborn children as well.

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Is there an effect both positive or negative to the county's economy when couples have plenty children?

But at the moment, what is the viability of having many children especially as it could reduce the per capital income.

There's a negative and positive effects, the negative is overpopulation. When there's an overpopulation crisis in a country it always affects the growth of that county as there's increase in crime rate due to so many individuals been out of school, job etc. When the government's of the nation doesn't have the wisdom to make use of the overpopulation to the benefits of the country it affects the country's overall performance and you can notice this happening in most third world countries.

The world is going digit and things can now be done with robots and devices that weren't possible in the past, we don't need overpopulation in the world anymore and the rate at which children are produced should be reduced by each family depending on their financial strength.

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Is there an effect both positive or negative to the county's economy when couples have plenty children?

But at the moment, what is the viability of having many children especially as it could reduce the per capital income.

There's a negative and positive effects, the negative is overpopulation. When there's an overpopulation crisis in a country it always affects the growth of that county as there's increase in crime rate due to so many individuals been out of school, job etc. When the government's of the nation doesn't have the wisdom to make use of the overpopulation to the benefits of the country it affects the country's overall performance and you can notice this happening in most third world countries.

The world is going digit and things can now be done with robots and devices that weren't possible in the past, we don't need overpopulation in the world anymore and the rate at which children are produced should be reduced by each family depending on their financial strength.
It's as though no one has ever considered the problems associated with overpopulation. But allow me to enlighten you: there is more to the story than first appears. Is there a direct correlation between population growth and the decline of third-world nations? You have a very limited perspective

Considering this bright new future of robots and high-tech devices, didn't we also witness the spectacular ascent of Bitcoin when skeptics like you questioned its viability? The digital era offers both benefits and difficulties. Maybe we should prioritize skill development and education instead of setting a cap on the number of children. The true power is in that area. Or maybe that's too complicated for you to enjoy?

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August 23, 2023, 12:29:27 PM
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The decision to having a number of children the family should have needs to be the parents decision and not for the economy to decide or them working by the government plan in having their children born, no one will be responsible for the upbringings of your children if you have given birth to them irrespective of their numbers, you will take charge to carteer for the larger percentage, same also is population growth which should be considered that people should be engaged in all aspects of production, there should be equal distribution in division of labour, we must not reduce human population because of poor economy, this could even worsen the situation because there will be drop in human resource and production output in the economy which is another bad sign for a development.
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