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August 17, 2023, 05:34:43 PM
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and I want to add some statement maybe this will also answer the reply from @Fredomago.
maybe sometimes experience or good self control will not guarantee to continue to be a healthy gambler and also sometimes professional gamblers will still be emotionally defeated and fail to control themselves but as long as experienced gamblers who have good self control know how to avoid gambling if the atmosphere or conditions that are not good so as not to lose control when gambling.
for example, if you are an experienced gambler, but you know that your physical condition is angry because of some problem, and when you want to gamble, you always remember that if you are in an emotional state and gamble, you will definitely lose more money.
However, if you have experience, self-control or good self-control will be able to prevent you from having the problem of losing money at gambling because you will know that it is enough to gamble and you should stop before things change. And indeed professional gamblers may also experience loss, have an emotional impact, and fail to control themselves. But he can prevent a big loss that might occur because he can quickly realize his mistake to get back on track quickly.

And when we can be responsible gamblers, we won't try to over-gamble and will remember that we have boundaries that must be maintained. We also won't try to gamble in an emotional state because we know what the impact will be on us, namely we can use more money because we are provoked by many things that will eventually make us lose more money.
good self control, responsible gambling and a positive mindset are the main factors to make a better gambler so that any negative influence that can affect a gambler can always be ignored with a broad mind. with this, gamblers do not need to be too ambitious to think too much about the difficulties of quit gambling or how to avoid gambling, but enough commitment and consistent self control, I do not think I will bet recklessly. if a gambler has that kind of commitment Im sure they can never be provoked or emotional because he always has a way to avoid those negative things.

That's right, every gambler is required to have some self-control, if they don't have it then it is very possible for them to fall into gambling. We can see a lot of cases that occur about those who put too much ambition in gambling, all of them end up with downturns and some even get stressed. Well, it's actually not too difficult to deal with problems like this, just agree with yourself on some limits that they should do when they experience for example defeat and at that time try to stop and rest first. Believe me, most gamblers are addicted because they put too much hope for a win, but on the other hand this is gambling. We have to be healthy gamblers who know what we are doing, gambling operates under the human consciousness so it is not strange if they lose a lot there because they do it based on emotions. 

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August 17, 2023, 08:45:38 PM
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That's right, every gambler is required to have some self-control, if they don't have it then it is very possible for them to fall into gambling.
The problem starts when gamblers face a lucky wave on their gambling session. So all the self-control is gone to give place to euphory and greediness. It's addictive to win, because it triggers the release of large portions of dopamine in our body. The pleasure is unspeakable, and they want more and more of that, until they start facing severe losses, then it's too late.

What OP said make all the sense for me, because personally I've already felt that for real and it's really good, although we have to fight against that feeling to not develop a serious addiction. Anyway, every moments I've won in gambling are memorable for me. I have them with a kind of nostalgia and magic...

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August 17, 2023, 08:52:26 PM
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If you are onto gambling for the first time it's not possible to get addicted to gambling because you haven't tasted what winning feels like, you will be consumed by doubts and uncertainty.

But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?

We have had a lot of conversations about gambling addiction, but I had the same conversation with someone close yesterday and this was my answer to him.

Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?

I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.


Completely.  Greed while winning is a hard thing to separate yourself from.  I always say it's terrible to win big real quick.  Better to gamble for a long time before your first big win because you will understand how quick it can go if you aremt careful.

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August 17, 2023, 08:56:30 PM
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and I want to add some statement maybe this will also answer the reply from @Fredomago.
maybe sometimes experience or good self control will not guarantee to continue to be a healthy gambler and also sometimes professional gamblers will still be emotionally defeated and fail to control themselves but as long as experienced gamblers who have good self control know how to avoid gambling if the atmosphere or conditions that are not good so as not to lose control when gambling.
for example, if you are an experienced gambler, but you know that your physical condition is angry because of some problem, and when you want to gamble, you always remember that if you are in an emotional state and gamble, you will definitely lose more money.
However, if you have experience, self-control or good self-control will be able to prevent you from having the problem of losing money at gambling because you will know that it is enough to gamble and you should stop before things change. And indeed professional gamblers may also experience loss, have an emotional impact, and fail to control themselves. But he can prevent a big loss that might occur because he can quickly realize his mistake to get back on track quickly.

And when we can be responsible gamblers, we won't try to over-gamble and will remember that we have boundaries that must be maintained. We also won't try to gamble in an emotional state because we know what the impact will be on us, namely we can use more money because we are provoked by many things that will eventually make us lose more money.
good self control, responsible gambling and a positive mindset are the main factors to make a better gambler so that any negative influence that can affect a gambler can always be ignored with a broad mind. with this, gamblers do not need to be too ambitious to think too much about the difficulties of quit gambling or how to avoid gambling, but enough commitment and consistent self control, I do not think I will bet recklessly. if a gambler has that kind of commitment Im sure they can never be provoked or emotional because he always has a way to avoid those negative things.

That's right, every gambler is required to have some self-control, if they don't have it then it is very possible for them to fall into gambling. We can see a lot of cases that occur about those who put too much ambition in gambling, all of them end up with downturns and some even get stressed. Well, it's actually not too difficult to deal with problems like this, just agree with yourself on some limits that they should do when they experience for example defeat and at that time try to stop and rest first. Believe me, most gamblers are addicted because they put too much hope for a win, but on the other hand this is gambling. We have to be healthy gamblers who know what we are doing, gambling operates under the human consciousness so it is not strange if they lose a lot there because they do it based on emotions. 
Would really be just that common sense that you should really be needing up that kind of control on which it is really that part of human senses and other default stuff on how to deal with things around you. We know that each person is really that different on each aspect when it comes to behavior and insights that they do see in a particular thing on which reactions and possible motives would really be mold up along the way. In speaking about winning in gambling then it is really that normally giving out that kind of boost and confidence on the time you do able to hit up. Its normal that your mind would be telling you that "you got this" on which this would really be that a driving force for you to play even more and wont really be minding nor caring about on the losses that you do have earlier because those stress and anxiety would definitely be wiped away on the time that you do able to hit up a single huge win or something significant. This is why we should really be careful on what we are dealing with if you dont like for yourself on experiencing some common future problems.

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August 17, 2023, 10:19:25 PM
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Addiction comes when you lose a little amount of money every day and winning a huge amount of money after a couple loss. that's where it starts it's based on our emotion. When we think that we're making a lot of money through gambling we think that we're actually always winning without thinking that we already lost a lot of money upon playing it everyday. in terms of playing recklessly it mostly comes after a you win some and you constantly losing that's where it starts because you wanna feel that excitement again that feeling of winning. So you tend to bet higher in order to get your loses.
That is just one part of this whole pie of reasons why someone could be addicted to gambling. There’s no primary reason why people push for more wins besides greed, there’s no other reason why people succumb to gambling addiction than loss of control over one’s self. If you find that you’re able to master these things you’re sure as shooting would be able to gamble as much as you want without the fear of ever getting addicted to gambling getting on to you.

Gambling addiction doesn’t just come from getting small wins and belligerently wasting the money over and over again, there are a plethora of possible cases that could lead to gambling addiction. And it’s your job to make sure you don’t fall victim to these schemes. 

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August 18, 2023, 02:54:40 AM
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I think if you keep winning numerous times you tend to do relaxed gambling which cannot cause addiction. But probably, if you win once lose twice, as percentages I assume, you can be lot more into it. Winning couple of times can make you feel like "I should play more and try harder so I can win big" mentality. But that mentality cannot be true in gambling cause its mainly luck based... Strong "will" is necessary to not be addicted to gambling.
What's required to not get addicted to gambling is discipline and self-control, if you have these two things, you will never get addicted to gambling. Your discipline will not let you go across the limits you've set for yourself, and your self-control won't make you gamble more when you don't need to and it will make you stop at the right time which will often save you from big losses and it will also prevent you from losing what you have won already in that session.

So, if someone is about to start gambling and they don't want to get addicted to it since they know it is dangerous, they should first see if they have got these two things in them, they should practice for a week or so and then see if they are able to do it, and then they should continue.

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August 18, 2023, 07:39:20 AM
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good self control, responsible gambling and a positive mindset are the main factors to make a better gambler so that any negative influence that can affect a gambler can always be ignored with a broad mind. with this, gamblers do not need to be too ambitious to think too much about the difficulties of quit gambling or how to avoid gambling, but enough commitment and consistent self control, I do not think I will bet recklessly. if a gambler has that kind of commitment Im sure they can never be provoked or emotional because he always has a way to avoid those negative things.

That's right, every gambler is required to have some self-control, if they don't have it then it is very possible for them to fall into gambling. We can see a lot of cases that occur about those who put too much ambition in gambling, all of them end up with downturns and some even get stressed. Well, it's actually not too difficult to deal with problems like this, just agree with yourself on some limits that they should do when they experience for example defeat and at that time try to stop and rest first. Believe me, most gamblers are addicted because they put too much hope for a win, but on the other hand this is gambling. We have to be healthy gamblers who know what we are doing, gambling operates under the human consciousness so it is not strange if they lose a lot there because they do it based on emotions. 
of several important factors to avoid the bad things of gambling that I have said before it is self control that is most important here when a big loss or win comes to a gambler and related to gamblers who are already addicted does not mean that their self control is very bad but its just that a lot the reason someone will lose control when betting, for example, is having problems from the family and forcing them to gamble because they vent their anger at gambling and for me that is very bad because when betting in a state of anger or when there is a problem, of course he will lose control even though he has won will continue to bet to get bigger.
it is indeed difficult to get used to being consistent with your own rules but if a gambler is able to keep trying I am sure they will have good control and a wise mindset.

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August 18, 2023, 08:33:41 AM
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A strong desire to generate curiosity to be able to win is one of the causes for someone to become addicted to gambling, especially when they have spent quite a lot of money they will continue to try to return or multiply the capital they have spent.
Only people who are greedy when they have experienced victory and keep trying to get bigger wins, in the end they go bankrupt instantly
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August 18, 2023, 09:52:50 AM
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good self control, responsible gambling and a positive mindset are the main factors to make a better gambler so that any negative influence that can affect a gambler can always be ignored with a broad mind. with this, gamblers do not need to be too ambitious to think too much about the difficulties of quit gambling or how to avoid gambling, but enough commitment and consistent self control, I do not think I will bet recklessly. if a gambler has that kind of commitment Im sure they can never be provoked or emotional because he always has a way to avoid those negative things.
That is the point of being a responsible gambler because he will always be able to control himself well and will not be affected by anything around him while gambling. He also will not be too ambitious to win because he knows that getting a win from gambling will never be easy. He would suffer more losses if he kept at it so he would think that it was better to enjoy gambling as entertainment and gamble in moderation. That will not make you provoke or become more emotional playing gambling because that is not the goal. And when he does get a win, he'll feel that maybe it's time to stop gambling instead of losing it all for the day. He can also know that he can return to gambling again another day with the remaining money in his gambling account balance.

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August 18, 2023, 05:14:27 PM
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A strong desire to generate curiosity to be able to win is one of the causes for someone to become addicted to gambling, especially when they have spent quite a lot of money they will continue to try to return or multiply the capital they have spent.
Only people who are greedy when they have experienced victory and keep trying to get bigger wins, in the end they go bankrupt instantly

In gambling, to be honest, our curiosity will continue to push us to go further, winning will always be something they crave. We must realize that gambling is about winning and losing and the only answer is luck. But most of them somehow don't really think about the risks they will face, remember in gambling defeat will continue to dominate us at all times and victory is just a prize which is very difficult to get. You will be able to get a win if you have experienced several defeats, if we calculate then it is the same as we return the capital that we have lost and it will return when we get a win. The truth is that someone who has won they will experience a condition where they feel easy in doing so and after that they will continue to do so in the hope of winning a bigger win, it is normal greed that humans have, and we as gamblers must have self-control. Implementing some limits in it is better than we have to lose more than what we imagine.

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August 18, 2023, 09:10:16 PM
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A strong desire to generate curiosity to be able to win is one of the causes for someone to become addicted to gambling, especially when they have spent quite a lot of money they will continue to try to return or multiply the capital they have spent.
Only people who are greedy when they have experienced victory and keep trying to get bigger wins, in the end they go bankrupt instantly

In gambling, to be honest, our curiosity will continue to push us to go further, winning will always be something they crave. We must realize that gambling is about winning and losing and the only answer is luck. But most of them somehow don't really think about the risks they will face, remember in gambling defeat will continue to dominate us at all times and victory is just a prize which is very difficult to get. You will be able to get a win if you have experienced several defeats, if we calculate then it is the same as we return the capital that we have lost and it will return when we get a win. The truth is that someone who has won they will experience a condition where they feel easy in doing so and after that they will continue to do so in the hope of winning a bigger win, it is normal greed that humans have, and we as gamblers must have self-control. Implementing some limits in it is better than we have to lose more than what we imagine.
That's where you're wrong. While gambling's outcome-based, it shouldn't be the mindset you instill upon yourself, cause you'd fall under the bias that every gambling session either means you win or you lose, wherein most often than not you're going to lsoe more than win. Be grounded and realistic, see gambling for what it is, which is a glorified pastime for people who have nothing to do but burn their money. Sure, people earn money from this ordeal but it is not a consistent income stream. Which is also the reason why you shouldn't suppose as if gambling addiction only happens when you lose or when you win. It happens when you lose control regardless of the outcome of every play.

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August 19, 2023, 01:11:18 AM
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A strong desire to generate curiosity to be able to win is one of the causes for someone to become addicted to gambling, especially when they have spent quite a lot of money they will continue to try to return or multiply the capital they have spent.
Only people who are greedy when they have experienced victory and keep trying to get bigger wins, in the end they go bankrupt instantly

In gambling, to be honest, our curiosity will continue to push us to go further, winning will always be something they crave. We must realize that gambling is about winning and losing and the only answer is luck. But most of them somehow don't really think about the risks they will face, remember in gambling defeat will continue to dominate us at all times and victory is just a prize which is very difficult to get. You will be able to get a win if you have experienced several defeats, if we calculate then it is the same as we return the capital that we have lost and it will return when we get a win. The truth is that someone who has won they will experience a condition where they feel easy in doing so and after that they will continue to do so in the hope of winning a bigger win, it is normal greed that humans have, and we as gamblers must have self-control. Implementing some limits in it is better than we have to lose more than what we imagine.

I have always been a faithful believer that the more money a human being has, the more money he wants and the much money he has seems little to him, I don't know why if this is good or bad, in my opinion it is good, the wrong thing is to apply it When you are playing in a casino, because it is the only scenario where this type of thinking does not apply, personally it is always better to have something safe than nothing, because the opportunities in the world are few and sometimes people cling to that type. of thought and they can lose a lot of money, it is true that when greed is mixed in the game it is a very bad combination, greed + money is something that should not be, apart from everything when we make sure that we can do things beyond our own limits we are being abusive with our capacities and in monetary terms that represents a great risk, which I am not able to recommend at all.

In this regard, I could say that when a person tries to be more conscious in their way of spending money, they may forget that gambling, specifically when playing in a casino, we can lose all the money, it is It is impossible for someone to say that the casino or the money that goes into the casino will double, or triple, even worse, those who want to do it 10 times more, do not really know what they are getting into, and that is why they exist so many addiction problems.

The self-control that many talk about is easy to say, but difficult to apply, I won't do something like that, because first I'm not capable, good to be able, yes, but I wouldn't dare, because betting in a casino requires knowing very well what is being done, what is being risked and what is still at stake.

And many of the players believe that after they win a lot, that is, in a winning streak, they can continue to win more, even though the losing streak is very safe, then it is a mistake, because everything is random, at any time no one comes out winning streak but 1 or two times and then no more, this is how casinos are managed, and many do not take the advantage of lca house that obviously does affect.

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That is the point of being a responsible gambler because he will always be able to control himself well and will not be affected by anything around him while gambling. He also will not be too ambitious to win because he knows that getting a win from gambling will never be easy. He would suffer more losses if he kept at it so he would think that it was better to enjoy gambling as entertainment and gamble in moderation. That will not make you provoke or become more emotional playing gambling because that is not the goal. And when he does get a win, he'll feel that maybe it's time to stop gambling instead of losing it all for the day. He can also know that he can return to gambling again another day with the remaining money in his gambling account balance.
in fact there are still very many people who are in gambling forget it all. I myself, when I try to be consistent with the rules that I make before betting, sometimes I forget them when the game looks fun or looks sure to get a surprise from the game. sometimes someone in gambling just for fun forgets something important and wastes time etc just because he is too focused on his pleasure so that when he gets a win he will bet continuously forgetting time and of course he will be emotionally affected.
I have often said that sometimes control is not very effective as long as they do not have a strong stance and on the one hand planning a budget is also one of the supporters to control finances so that they are not too wasteful and betting safely is not too reckless.

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August 19, 2023, 09:01:25 AM
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In gambling, if it's about the habit then everything is possible to happen. It's possible that just after your first win you get excited to win more.

And that's the trap for some happens, it's not that after first win but every time you gamble the thrill starts and you can't control it until you finally notices it.

The hormones that makes us excites is also going to be more active and that's where you'll be fascinated on how our brain reacts.

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August 19, 2023, 09:03:50 AM
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That is the point of being a responsible gambler because he will always be able to control himself well and will not be affected by anything around him while gambling. He also will not be too ambitious to win because he knows that getting a win from gambling will never be easy. He would suffer more losses if he kept at it so he would think that it was better to enjoy gambling as entertainment and gamble in moderation. That will not make you provoke or become more emotional playing gambling because that is not the goal. And when he does get a win, he'll feel that maybe it's time to stop gambling instead of losing it all for the day. He can also know that he can return to gambling again another day with the remaining money in his gambling account balance.
in fact there are still very many people who are in gambling forget it all. I myself, when I try to be consistent with the rules that I make before betting, sometimes I forget them when the game looks fun or looks sure to get a surprise from the game. sometimes someone in gambling just for fun forgets something important and wastes time etc just because he is too focused on his pleasure so that when he gets a win he will bet continuously forgetting time and of course he will be emotionally affected.
I have often said that sometimes control is not very effective as long as they do not have a strong stance and on the one hand planning a budget is also one of the supporters to control finances so that they are not too wasteful and betting safely is not too reckless.
It's normal when we finally can't try to be consistent with the rules we make because gambling games that provide fun can make us dissolve and forget to hold on to those rules tightly. So we still often miss those boundaries and only remember when we are almost at the end of time. But if we still try another time when we gamble again, we are also still in the learning stage so it's normal if we sometimes forget that rule. What's important is that from 10 times playing, we still adhere to the rule 7 times playing and because we are also still learning to control ourselves, that means we still have to learn.

Sometimes we can weaken the stance we already have before starting to bet. But over time, that stance will weaken and begin to affect us. And it's also normal to experience and all gamblers experience it too. What makes the difference is that we still want to get back on the right track and learn more.

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August 19, 2023, 09:12:10 AM
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A strong desire to generate curiosity to be able to win is one of the causes for someone to become addicted to gambling, especially when they have spent quite a lot of money they will continue to try to return or multiply the capital they have spent.
Only people who are greedy when they have experienced victory and keep trying to get bigger wins, in the end they go bankrupt instantly
By generating curiosity, I believe we can in other words say, chasing loses, chasing after loses is like one way ticket to becoming addicted to gambling, and i think it has nothing to do with how much one has or have lost to gambling, but it has everything to do with the mindset and how such individual see or take gambling, for someone who believe gambling to be all about having fun and very less about winning, such a person will hardly chase after his or her loses no matter what amount of money they have lost.
But for those who believe or see gambling to be another money making venture, such people are the ones who easily chase after their loses and they are also the ones that are mostly addicted to gambling.

So to avoid being in too much loss when we gamble, we must begin to see and view gambling for what it is, and not for what its not, gambling was meant to be another source of fun, not a money making venture, even though it gives players the opportunity to make money, which is really good, but then, making money must not always be our number one reason for gambling.

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August 19, 2023, 09:49:45 AM
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If you are onto gambling for the first time it's not possible to get addicted to gambling because you haven't tasted what winning feels like, you will be consumed by doubts and uncertainty.

But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?

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Yes. Winning is addictive. Let's think about it for a moment, that is the reason we went back to gamble the second time after we won our first ever bet.  That is the point where little bouts of addiction starts getting strengthed. You want to win more so you play more to compensate for the losses. It is even bad when the gambler thinks that with every loss, they are closer to a wining. And when they win, the thoughts and beliefs gets stronger. And since the gambler needs more money to gamble so that they can win, they will do all that is possible to get it.

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August 19, 2023, 01:41:35 PM
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Based on my experience, gambling addiction may develop and grow in anticipation of future profits. It does not matter whether you have tasted some wins or not, but the fact that beginner gamblers are hunger with money and profits, then addiction will easily come to develop. However, in some gamblers, they only develop gambling addiction once they have experienced potential profits. Because they feel that if they continue gambling, there will be more profits waiting for them. That’s when reality sucks when all they gained are losses.
Winning is primarily the major concerns of every gamblers in the system. We strive harder every day to make sure things go smooth for us, some days are profitable while some are buildup losses which will would bounced back to the space to recovered. It's routine, our every day activity. Gambling addiction starts with the mindset of the gambler, they begin to grow in every single opportunity of witnessing or grabbing a win from the system. We should be able to control ourselves and mindset when the winning comes, because we can do irrational functions when it's triggered.
It is true that they are more mentally damaged, usually more greed works in them if they win they bet again and again in the hope of winning and throw them into addiction and people's purchasing power decreases when they become addicted. But in the casino environment, he can taste the novelty of different games every day. For some, the casino environment may not be an escape from all the worries of the world. Sometimes it is seen that winning and winning continuously does not become the right personality of some people. That's why you have to learn to control yourself it is foolish to try to recover from gambling when the risk of loss is high but it is better to stop for the time being.

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August 19, 2023, 02:05:55 PM
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I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.

Anyone who really experienced winning big right away in gambling will eventually lead their gambling activity into a habit or regular doing. It's now the start of the thinking that winning is just easy to achieve in gambling. Then from there, it now depend on the person if they will be responsible along the way or will end up worst.

Fortunately, there are people that didn't pursue their gambling interest since they didn't experience winning at all even as a newbie and never being influenced by the famous gambling term 'beginners luck". Since being always a loser from the start of their gambling, they just decided to quit.

Winning or losing can lead to reckless gambling but I'm sure it mostly on winning as a start.
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August 19, 2023, 02:22:16 PM
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It is true that they are more mentally damaged, usually more greed works in them if they win they bet again and again in the hope of winning and throw them into addiction and people's purchasing power decreases when they become addicted. But in the casino environment, he can taste the novelty of different games every day. For some, the casino environment may not be an escape from all the worries of the world. Sometimes it is seen that winning and winning continuously does not become the right personality of some people. That's why you have to learn to control yourself it is foolish to try to recover from gambling when the risk of loss is high but it is better to stop for the time being.

Well, prevention is always better than cure. You must know how to control your cravings and urges in gambling so you won't get dependent on it and addicted in the long run. If you will be impulsive in playing and betting, the chances of you throwing and burning money because you want to chase winnings is ridiculously high. Since quitting once you get used to gambling is very difficult to do so, it's better to learn how to limit yourself than to do it later on when you are already drowning. Hence, you won't have a hard time going hiatus if it's no longer being beneficial to you already.

Some people use gambling as an escape, but the thing is, it might even become a thing that you must escape from again. It really depends on how you will utilize gambling for your own benefit. It's best to do it moderately and responsibly to avoid the harsh repercussions.
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