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August 07, 2023, 09:55:44 AM
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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

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August 07, 2023, 10:35:23 AM
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I beg to disagree with this publication, it's their view but it doesn't matter if you are working in the office or at home, all that matters is to get the job done and be gainfully employed as a citizen of a country. In that way, you will be able to live the good life you desire and will also be able to transact financially among other people in the country which is what encourages the economy.

Everybody can't be the CEO and top-ranking officials of a company and every sector of the economy can't demand your physical appearance. They only do that mostly to fulfil all righteousness, I see nothing wrong with online work, some companies even prefer it now to cut costs, yet the work goes well. What your work demands from you matters, even those who are working at home (freelancers) might be earning Forex for the country which is one of the benefits of exportation because they are exporting their knowledge/service to foreign people and get money in return which is usually domiciled in the USD.


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August 07, 2023, 11:03:38 AM
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That is not true. It depends on the kind of job,there are some jobs that you don't need to be in the office before you can be efficient. Working in the office are for those workers that does some of their work manually. The efficiency of an employee depends on the zeal and passion that the person puts into his/her job irrespective of wherever the person is working from. There are some jobs that are best done at home than in the office e.g a web designing computer programming e.t.c. Freelancer job is something that one must carry out the task to get paid and it gives you freedom to manage your time and share knowledge with other persons.

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August 07, 2023, 12:05:14 PM
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It is completely opposite because first, if you are onsite and you are commuting, like riding a bus or taxi, for sure you'll get tired of it, and after you arrive in the office, you'll go straight to your phone for social media or like take a sip of coffee and not start your work. It is like you'll spend most of your time at leisure and commuting, unlike remotely, where you'll do mostly your task because you've already gotten tired, keep checking your social media, and also because you are more prepared to go to work as you've rested well. This is really what I've noticed before: I am too lazy at my office, mostly spending half a day on the coffee table or on the couch using my phone, but when I work remotely, I am more productive.
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August 07, 2023, 01:30:27 PM
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It's really depend on the job and how they get paid.

If he get paid per hour, day, month and after he completed his task, his boss or manager will give him more task, why he need to deliver his job as soon as possible if he can cheat or work slower?

If he's a freelancer and he get paid according to his task, he will his best to deliver his job as soon as possible to earn maximum money.
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August 07, 2023, 01:43:46 PM
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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?
I guess so for those that have been new to this transition, they're not feeling to be productive because they're not in an office setup. But with freelancers, I don't think that it should be the case.

This is what freelancers like, to work at home and avoid the hassle of traffic if there's any with commuting. The drive from the employees that are new to this setup are the ones that can't be productive that much.

But those that have been too tired with the office setup, this is a blessing to them and they'll work more productively than this stats says.

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August 07, 2023, 01:54:38 PM
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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

You have no idea how they are making complete use of peeps being at their homes. They are literally giving more work to the peeps at home since there are no real restrictions on the work hours. A manager calls at any time and he can start the Team Meet at any time of the day or even late at night. That's the face of current employment which has turned into the Work from home culture. The IT friends, the devs, or the tester are literally working more than 10 hours when they are at home. Since it's in their comfort it's like they keep working now and then. I highly doubt that the study was conducted with real-life situation candidates. Lolz. Perhaps there might be various pros and cons behind such research: varies according to region, nature of the job, cultural aspects and many factors. Not sure how this one was done and how much significance it really adds?
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August 07, 2023, 02:00:18 PM
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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?
Well it depends on your state as a freelancer. When I first started freelancing, there's like no sleep at all since you would need to hunt for clients especially if we're talking about saturated markets like Data Entry jobs from my experience at Upwork wherein there would be already 50+ applicants waiting to be picked by the client.

Going back to the topic, if you're on the office, you don't have any purpose anyway other than just working on your clock. Time in and time out.

For the question at the end of the post, it depends to every worker themselves if they really love what they do. I gotta admit, I usually wake up late when I tend to work from home but still clock in time since I really love to program.
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August 07, 2023, 02:06:16 PM
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Statistics might show that, based on the method of data collection they used in running their research, which gave them that convincing figure, their findings do not remain final as they can still be argued by other researchers.
 
Being productive is based on individuals; there are people who enjoy working from home, in their own private space, because that's where they can think outside the box without undergoing some kind of pressure from colleagues and superiors, with assigned duties to them, knowing that their salary is dependent on how they can deliver a Job given to them.
 
Sometimes working from the office looks productive in the eyes of many, but looking behind that productivity, there is some persuasion by higher-ranking members, which makes those employees not work against their will but under pressure.

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August 07, 2023, 02:41:11 PM
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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

I read the abstract of the study and the reason for the less productivity of workers that work at home is distractions from family responsibilities and poverty. Workers especially those that have underaged children will not be productive working from home because of the responsibility of taking care of children. Other forms of household responsibility can lead to distractions which can lead to poor productivity.

The financial constraints of some workers might lead to certain work challenges like uncomfortable workspace due to lack of space in the home. Working from home will be impactful when the workers have a good home space that can enable them to set up a comfortable workspace. Some persons might also be limited by electric power or internet data. But these problems might be absent in work offices.

Some workers need supervision. This is in line with Theory X and Y by Douglas McGregor. Some of these workers are naturally lazy, so working from home might lead to less supervision. But this doesn't dispute the fact that many workers need little or no supervision.

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These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office.

Working from home or in office does not determine the quality of the productivity one can offer as long as there are certain working terms and conditions guiding the job, you can be in the office and be less concentrated or deliver below expectations, i think the work station barrier here shouldn't be the major reason why some csn perform below standard as long as adequate measures were put in place for them to be monitored and provide the best quality outputs required from them to deliver on the assigned job or responsibilities.

Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

We've gone advanced with what others are thinking regarding employability and job descriptions for maximum produce, now in this developed era of digitalization, there are jobs that are specifically an office job role while some were online jobs, ours is to set a standard to how we can best fit in any of these, if you think having a profile reputable enough to make you stand eligible for the role you may be applying for, then go for it, but if you deliver below standard, you have just reduced your profile proficiencies to being accepted the next time an opportunity comes in for offer.

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That might be true but then some workers don’t like to work in an office and these people will also be less productive. There is no easy solution to this problem. The employer should find the workers that loves to work in the whatever current environment (home or office) and move on. If the majority of the workers are doing sloppy work while working from home then he should move to an office…

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I beg to disagree with this publication, it's their view but it doesn't matter if you are working in the office or at home, all that matters is to get the job done and be gainfully employed as a citizen of a country. In that way, you will be able to live the good life you desire and will also be able to transact financially among other people in the country which is what encourages the economy.
You sound like a politician giving vague speeches. The article actually raised some specific points so what exactly are you disagreeing about? The "net speed" is a valid metric for measuring productiveness for data entry types of jobs. The one in the office could complete the job in 8 hours while the one at home would need 2 more hours so are you saying that the extra time doesn't matter as long as the job gets done?



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August 07, 2023, 04:35:26 PM
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It depends on the kind of workers, and the kind of work environments they like. There are people who do really well & better in works done from home, they are likely the independent minded ones who need lots of quiet time and feel more comfortable working alone. If you are employers (or workers) who don't like remote work, maybe create quiet places that feel like home for such unique workers (who are likely in the minority) in your companies for example, for more productivity. Other workers will probably like the opposite kind of environments for obvious reason and still do well.  

Researchers need to take the difference in personality into consideration when conducting such research.
A proper research would first of all inquire about the kind of work environment people really like and do well in and base the result on that.
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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

I can vouch to this, I experienced work from home during the pandemic and it’s very hard to become productive while there’s a lot of temptation to be lazy at work since there’s no one watching you. I believe freelance and work from home is not the same because freelance have a target deadline for their work while work from home is just a regular employee that being paid for the day of work without any commitment to finish work since they are not project based salary.
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If you work for others, you will certainly be less efficient and productive than if you worked for yourself, at least that's how I feel through my experience.

When you work for others, you lose ambition and work according to the employer's mentality, and you do not care to develop in your work, and this causes you to become bored.

But if you are self-employed, then you have the ambition and determination to constantly develop and improve your work, especially if you work in a profession that you love, then it is certain that your efficiency and productivity will be very high.

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August 07, 2023, 05:27:36 PM
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When one is committed to work from home he/she will be assigned with the proper eight hours of job. This keeps them productive, but these days work from home were like 24X7 work. This makes them really unproductive. Apart from that some companies have cut salaries, and the same will make them work according to the pay. Without reason employees won't go low in their productive work. Now most of the employees have got adopted to the work from home life style and so they don't concentrate effectively which could also be a reason for going low in productive work.

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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

I think this depends on the dedication of the person who is working from home.  I believe it became less productive because people who are working from home do not experience the same pressure when they are at the office where many people eyes are observing the employee.  This make them get easy in doing their job.

But to a person who prioritized integrity and credibility, I do not think that the result of working from home will make any difference when he is working at the office.
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Some jobs that pays good doesn't stress workers at all, most stressful jobs doesn't pay well, but I can tell that your level of education thats what secures your pay (salaries) online or offline, so I will conclude that anyone who wants a stressfree job should try as mush as possible to go higher on education so that the salaries can Worth it.
Like on Bitcointalk, all Bitcointalkers who work on a signature campaign get paid according to their ranks, I take Bitcointalk as a college were you starts from nonage to high class, so education is what matters to the pays.
Some non-educated people who get biggest pay as salaries are those who got the job either by luck or maybe their friends / family member are the ones who manages the business or companies that they work on.

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When one is committed to work from home he/she will be assigned with the proper eight hours of job. This keeps them productive, but these days work from home were like 24X7 work. This makes them really unproductive. Apart from that some companies have cut salaries, and the same will make them work according to the pay. Without reason employees won't go low in their productive work. Now most of the employees have got adopted to the work from home life style and so they don't concentrate effectively which could also be a reason for going low in productive work.

I believe this depends on your line of work, the accomplishments you need to meet for a certain period of time.
If you are tasked to certain responsibilities, that means, you need to accomplish it as required by your job.
Whether you are at home or office, you should always give your best to satisfy what is needed from your side.
There may be distractions at home but as an employee, you should always keep in mind that you are paid to do certain work.
We don't know the specific metrics of this study, but such findings may not be the general sentiment from all industries which are allowing their employees to work from home.
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The important thing is that you have work to do, about the situation I think this is very conditional. The management and creativity of each individual is definitely different, for me personally I prefer to work at home surrounded by my loved ones.
But the fact is that there are so many free jobs that can be done at home without having to enter the office, everyone returns to their own perceptions.

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From my point of view in regard to your question, I feel there are several factors to consider… Freelancers often have greater independence and responsibility over their work, which can lead to a greater sense of ownership and motivation to produce results of high quality. This "own your job" mentality can lead to increased dedication and commitment to assigned tasks. However, not all workers have the personality or motivation to function optimally in an autonomous environment. Some people can thrive in a more structured environment, where guidelines and expectations are more defined.

I have seen that Some companies have adopted approaches that encourage self-management and decision-making by employees, even in traditionally structured roles... which would achieve an increase in motivation and productivity. .. As in the case of American Express that have a mental health section which helps their employees to perform their work better.

I would say that The key is to find a balance between the necessary structure to maintain productivity and enough autonomy to encourage creativity and motivation of employees.
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Not really, the only thing that makes me differentiate wfh and working on site is when you are working from home it is very difficult to separate your household chores to your work, after the job sometimes you need to took care of something else and this is good because when you work on site just like here on us, it will take you 3-4hrs before going home it will consume your personal time so much. But wfh quality in work is same with working on site.
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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

In my opinion, it was always obvious. When I got an office job, I was asked if I wanted to work in the office or at home, I decided to stay in the office. Colleagues are nearby, and it turns out to solve cases with them quickly. The atmosphere is working, and no one distracts as it would be at home. Two monitors allow you to solve problems quickly, and there is no temptation to turn on computer games and start playing. This is actually what my many colleagues who work remotely from home do. They turn on the conference and go to play games themselves, shutting down work programs.
Therefore, I do not consider the results of this study shocking.
Any person feels safe at home, and in order to work, it is necessary to leave the comfort zone, and I mean the internal state.

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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?
How they would really be able to consider or find out that their home workers are less efficient? Just like on what others mentioned on which if we do speak about remote works then doesnt mean that they are lazy.

As long the job gets done or whatever tasks that they've been given out then that what matter the most on which it would really be just that there are significant changes in surrounding or environment but i would say that it wont really differ much. If  you are the owner then  you could really be able to spot out to those workers who do fail on doing their job and this is the time that you would really be needing out to take some actions but if you do see that they could able to do their job well despite of being a remote or work from home kind of work then it should really be fine.

Now that we are living in a world that almost we are doing it online then having this kind of integration or industry would really be that common or would really be that
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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

In my experience this has definitely been the case, there are all sorts of reasons for this drop in productivity - distractions, or even working longer hours but not actually creating quality work, to lack of socializing or having colleagues in the most accessible environment. I've also seen reduced productivity from other people and it can go to the extreme where they end up in a state of denial themselves, thinking that they are producing good content but actually disappearing for a working day and being less accountable. It's good to see a bit of research backing up this position, but freelance workers are definitely a different breed. Some people genuinely can work in such conditions but they are rarer than most.

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August 07, 2023, 09:23:57 PM
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The important thing is that you have work to do, about the situation I think this is very conditional. The management and creativity of each individual is definitely different, for me personally I prefer to work at home surrounded by my loved ones.
But the fact is that there are so many free jobs that can be done at home without having to enter the office, everyone returns to their own perceptions.

Working for someone should be under certain conditions which there must be an agreement the parties must come to sign upon, after fulfilling the requirements for the work, most people will prefer work from home because of the conduciveness and lesser stressful  because some don't like the nature of office work conditions due to the strict Challenges with working with group of people in an open environment.

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August 07, 2023, 09:37:59 PM
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Not really, the only thing that makes me differentiate wfh and working on site is when you are working from home it is very difficult to separate your household chores to your work, after the job sometimes you need to took care of something else and this is good because when you work on site just like here on us, it will take you 3-4hrs before going home it will consume your personal time so much. But wfh quality in work is same with working on site.
Wfh and working on site/office are actually no difference at all because you share the same goal, that is to finish the task successfully and be productive. While working on site let you focus on your own job without any interruption, wfh on the other hand is sometimes unmanageable especially if you have no private room to serve as your office, and all the household chores are also waiting to be done. Most especially if you have small kids around, the scenario will be a lot different. But I believe what’s more important is that you still achieved your goal, and that is to finish your job at a desired time.

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Not really, the only thing that makes me differentiate wfh and working on site is when you are working from home it is very difficult to separate your household chores to your work, after the job sometimes you need to took care of something else and this is good because when you work on site just like here on us, it will take you 3-4hrs before going home it will consume your personal time so much. But wfh quality in work is same with working on site.
Wfh and working on site/office are actually no difference at all because you share the same goal, that is to finish the task successfully and be productive. While working on site let you focus on your own job without any interruption, wfh on the other hand is sometimes unmanageable especially if you have no private room to serve as your office, and all the household chores are also waiting to be done. Most especially if you have small kids around, the scenario will be a lot different. But I believe what’s more important is that you still achieved your goal, and that is to finish your job at a desired time.
Doesnt matter if you are really having tons of distractions when you are working at your own home on which same as you said that when you do have the kids playing around or the noise then for sure

you would really be having those kind of delays but what matter the most is that we do able to make the job or work done because i could say that i could be able to deal up with these things as long im with my family on the entire day or simply in the convenience of my own home on which i do prefer.I dont really need to face up some traffic or hassles on that daily commute or drive.
Although there are people who do much prefer on having that socialism with other people and do really love on going into the office due to this reason but in overall and according to someones
preference then it would really be a choice but since we are living in a modern world then it isnt shocking that we are already trying out to make some switch up gradually.

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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?
I think about this is really going to lead to different answers. But for people who are initially used to working in an office with tight time management and those who are very productive when working in an office because there is indeed supervision from a superior in the office. So maybe they will become less productive if suddenly they are told to work from home. The reason is because at home we feel more relaxed because there is no direct supervision from superiors. Which keeps us from getting the urge to work harder. But for someone who is used to working at home or who is a freelancer, working at home still won't interfere with his productivity at work.

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we need to meet people to increase our knowledge, if we are alone there will be no one tell us about what is wrong or what is better. we need good friends guys. freelancer also need friends to gain insight so his quality will be higher.

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Freelancers are a different bunch altogether, aren't they? Sort of like being their own boss, making their own rules, wearing their own shoes, you know? So, if you're your boss, you work harder or lazier, or sometimes both. People in the office might work better, or they might not, or maybe they just pretend to work better. There's a chair and a desk, right?

But freelance folks, they own the tasks. Owning tasks is like owning a pet; you have to feed it, love it, care for it. It's business, not another man's business, so it's like more business-y. Could they be more productive? Maybe, maybe not, but the sky's the limit, except there's no sky at home. So, yeah, think about that! Or don't. Up to you, really

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we need to meet people to increase our knowledge, if we are alone there will be no one tell us about what is wrong or what is better. we need good friends guys. freelancer also need friends to gain insight so his quality will be higher.
Everyone who does the work certainly has comfortable conditions to work, some do the work individually and some like to do the work in groups. Maybe what you are saying includes people who want to do their work in groups so they have to do their work together so they can get additional information from other people about what they are doing, it is very different for those who work individually they prefer to do their own work without anyone people who accompany him in doing work.
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From personal experience: I have IT specialists working for me, after covid and then terrorist aggression from russia, a decision was made to relocate specialists to other cities. When the terrorist army of russia was defeated and fled in shame from most of the occupied territories, people returned. Many lived near Kiev, in satellite cities.
But due to the fact that the office is located in the center of Kiev, and Kiev continues to be shelled by Russian terrorists, a second decision was made - to switch to a remote work schedule. After 2-3 months, I talked to the staff and found out what happened:
- For employees, working at home is an additional motivation
- - a person saves 2-3 hours a day traveling to and from work
- a person reduces the cost of maintaining themselves during working hours
- people have the opportunity to have more contact with their families

from my side benefits:
- I do not bear the cost of maintenance of workplaces, office, related costs
- the real efficiency of work, as I perceive it, is HUGE. People who are motivated by what is described above can work earlier in the morning, can solve tasks in the evening when a good idea comes to them, or even , some time on weekends.
- according to the project management system indicators - efficiency has also increased.

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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?
I think about this is really going to lead to different answers. But for people who are initially used to working in an office with tight time management and those who are very productive when working in an office because there is indeed supervision from a superior in the office. So maybe they will become less productive if suddenly they are told to work from home. The reason is because at home we feel more relaxed because there is no direct supervision from superiors. Which keeps us from getting the urge to work harder. But for someone who is used to working at home or who is a freelancer, working at home still won't interfere with his productivity at work.

Even though there are supervisors watching you, you still kind of fake it, like you are doing something. Unlike in a work-from-home setup, you are really the one in charge. If there are time trackers or screen trackers, then you'll be working hard, but again, in a work-from-home setup, you'll mostly need to finish the task by the end of the day as there are always reports on what you've done by the end of the day, meaning you'll have to do things. Unlike in an office setup, there are days when there are no meetings, and you'll just casually go in and out.
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I think there are advantages in allowing employees to work from home but lower productivity does not surprise me. Being at home with no boss or manager watching you, I can see people being tempted to not work as hard. Sure, many people will be happier to stay home but I could definitely see laziness creeping in with some people & a lack of motivation.

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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?
I don't know if the article is just bias, or I'm wrong with what I watched during the pandemic.
At that time, there are employees who are working in the office who made a transition, and decided to work from their home, and most of them find themselves to be more productive, and it's better for them since they will have more time to spend with their families.

In our country, on average in one day, we spend around 2-3 hours going into the office, and going back into our homes. Just imagine that time being spent alone for travelling. For those who are going to their office who are now working from home, they find this very good since they are earning, at the same time, they have more time to do things that they aren't doing when they are working on an office.

Work from home workers tend to be less productive? I guess it depends on the environment of the freelancer/worker or whatever term  you want to call. I mean I know some freelancers here in our community, and they are working pretty well, but with a silent environment that's why they are working in midnights till tomorrow morning. On the other hand, I don't know if freelancers are affected with this one, but I believe that having a noisy environment will affect your productivity. Overall, freelancers are the way to go now. No need to wear formal attire, no need to go to a meeting personally, no need to travel for 2-3 hours or even more because of traffic.

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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?
I think about this is really going to lead to different answers. But for people who are initially used to working in an office with tight time management and those who are very productive when working in an office because there is indeed supervision from a superior in the office. So maybe they will become less productive if suddenly they are told to work from home. The reason is because at home we feel more relaxed because there is no direct supervision from superiors. Which keeps us from getting the urge to work harder. But for someone who is used to working at home or who is a freelancer, working at home still won't interfere with his productivity at work.

Even though there are supervisors watching you, you still kind of fake it, like you are doing something. Unlike in a work-from-home setup, you are really the one in charge. If there are time trackers or screen trackers, then you'll be working hard, but again, in a work-from-home setup, you'll mostly need to finish the task by the end of the day as there are always reports on what you've done by the end of the day, meaning you'll have to do things. Unlike in an office setup, there are days when there are no meetings, and you'll just casually go in and out.
Well maybe under certain conditions it will be like that. Depends on what field of work we enter. and it also depends on what policies are enforced by the company and the last one is depending on one's own personality. One of the jobs that can be done from anywhere is remote working. Be it as a designer, analyst, digital marketing, and also as a social media manager. And there are also animators, mangaka, writers and so on who are included as freelancers if they do not have direct ties with the company. And usually when there is no bond with the company, this work can indeed be done in a relaxed and flexible way. but if you already have a contract with the company, everything must be done on time, such as deadlines. Sometimes work at home in this field is indeed more productive because even those who are manga artists only have a little down time.

But if it's accounting or other managerial fields that are based on data input and others. usually even though they work at home they usually tend to feel more relaxed when done at home. However, because there is a time limit for completing tasks, basically the productivity will remain the same.

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On the article OP mentioned here there are actually two studies referred.

The first studies conducted by the National Bureau of Economic Research , this is the direct quotation of one paragraph of their conclusion.
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We first find a large positive and significant treatment effect of 18% from working in the office. Two-thirds of the effect exists from the first day of working and the rest is due to quicker learning by office workers over the subsequent weeks. Second, we find negative selection effects for office based workers. Those who prefer home-based work are 12% faster and more accurate at baseline. Finally, we also find negative selection on treatment: workers who prefer home have larger negative productivity effects when allocated to home. The negative selection effects are stronger within subgroups that typically face bigger constraints in selecting office work, such as workers with children and with other home care responsibilities, as well as poorer households.

So based on those paragraph the research actually shows that people who are working from home are 12% faster and more accurate on their work. There is a negative effect but it's largely found on the people who got distraction at home like children or other household.
 

The second one is by PEW Research Center they focused on Teleworker, it said that actually 56% of the respondent claiming that working from home helping them getting the job done and/or meeting the deadlines



So in general working from home has more positive effect, except if you are juggling between your work and household, but I guess even if you are working in your office but you juggling between work and home it will still have negative impact on the productivity.


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When one is committed to work from home he/she will be assigned with the proper eight hours of job. This keeps them productive, but these days work from home were like 24X7 work. This makes them really unproductive. Apart from that some companies have cut salaries, and the same will make them work according to the pay. Without reason employees won't go low in their productive work. Now most of the employees have got adopted to the work from home life style and so they don't concentrate effectively which could also be a reason for going low in productive work.
A 24/7 work from home is practically something impossible to archive. Only machines and bots can function I'm this capacity bit ven those too do suffer machine breakdown and bots needs upgrade from time to time. How much more humans.
One of the reason why individuals prefers to work from home is the luxury of having to choose a work time for themselves and 24/7 wouldn't accorx any individual such time. I think if that's what it is, we just might find everyone going out to conduct there affairs.

Still, there is no work as much as having an office space. You get the consciousness of a working environment and the chance to put in your very best and making thebest moves time realise targeted goals. Work grok joke is good but, having to go out for the field or office has a means to an even better productivity.

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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?
I think about this is really going to lead to different answers. But for people who are initially used to working in an office with tight time management and those who are very productive when working in an office because there is indeed supervision from a superior in the office. So maybe they will become less productive if suddenly they are told to work from home. The reason is because at home we feel more relaxed because there is no direct supervision from superiors. Which keeps us from getting the urge to work harder. But for someone who is used to working at home or who is a freelancer, working at home still won't interfere with his productivity at work.

Even though there are supervisors watching you, you still kind of fake it, like you are doing something. Unlike in a work-from-home setup, you are really the one in charge. If there are time trackers or screen trackers, then you'll be working hard, but again, in a work-from-home setup, you'll mostly need to finish the task by the end of the day as there are always reports on what you've done by the end of the day, meaning you'll have to do things. Unlike in an office setup, there are days when there are no meetings, and you'll just casually go in and out.
There are really some pros and cons in between set ups on which same as you had showed or mention about on a physical office on which there are indeed days on which there's no work for you to be done or something

that there's no much thing to be worked on on which it would result on having that bigger break time or you could do whatever you do want as long you are in the premises of your office but of course it would really be still varying on the management because there would really be those supervisors which are really that strict when it comes to arrangement and order of everything. If they do find out that you arent doing something on your paycheck then expect that there would really be words after that.

The thing that i do like when having that work-from-home set up is that i do able to see my family all of the time and do make out those breaks or lunch into the convenience of my own home
which nothing beats out that kind of feelings.

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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?
To me this sounds like an excuse to try to get people back to the office, if people were as unproductive as they claim to be then businesses would have fired them already as they are interested on making the most money possible and they do not need lazy employees doing nothing from their homes, so I do not believe this is the case, it is just that with the new laws passed businesses are realizing they cannot bother their employees outside of their work hours, and they just want them back so they can get people to work for them for unpaid overtime.
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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?
based on a study that i had previously read, working from home does bring you closer to your family but really messes up your focus as a worker, that's why many companies prohibit their employees from working from home when the covid-19 pandemic status has been lowered.  i've also experienced negative feelings myself when i work from home, i feel isolated and less productive, so i decided not to work from home, i'm currently running a small business, being outside the home is much more productive imo.

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August 09, 2023, 05:24:44 AM
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I think this depends on the dedication of the person who is working from home.  I believe it became less productive because people who are working from home do not experience the same pressure when they are at the office where many people eyes are observing the employee.  This make them get easy in doing their job.

But to a person who prioritized integrity and credibility, I do not think that the result of working from home will make any difference when he is working at the office.
I believe that employees who are paid well, have a moral responsibility to fulfil their obligations and carry out their tasks to the later whether they are under supervision or not and irrespective of whether they work from home or at the office. People who do not do this terrible they are not only bringing down the revenue source of the company but they are also damaging their reputation because their employers will see them as incompetent and would not recommend them for opportunities if ever there is one. Also, they may even be the first ones to let go if the company is going to downsize. I see the reason why many organization micro manage their staff.  I do not know how practical this is but if we ever come to a time where we are forced to work from home again just in the pandemic staff should be paid per task done or assignment carried out and not monthly.

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I have many friends that are working from home since covid happened. I always wished I could also do same but I keep on going office. Anyways, I chat with some friends and most of them say they feel lot better in psychology when they are working at home. But costs are bit too bad. They feel like they don't wanna work, managers force them to work excessively because they are at home, they get overweight etc. I think working from home is not for everyone. Its mainly about our personality. I could do better for sure tho.
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These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?

It depends on the type of work. If you are a freelance article writer and you are paid per article written, you don't need to go to the office and you can work from anywhere in the world. Besides, you are not employed in the company's staff, you are paid as an external. Now, in most office jobs, what you've seen is this: everyone has some downtime when what is the main task they have to do runs out. If you're at home, when you're done with the task, you go watch TV, lay on the couch or whatever, but if you're in the office and you see your bosses walking by you find things to do so they don't see you standing around, like organizing old files, going to talk to the partner or section chief about how to change the website and things like that.

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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office.
In my opinion, such an opinion cannot be generalized to all jobs. Because we all know that work is not all in an office or in a factory building. But at home you can also do a job and of course it will be the same. Because the work has many branches and many types. From work that is specifically located in an office, to work that can be done at home.
So I think the research is not complex and not comprehensive in all fields of work.

Then not only that, sometimes there are typical people who are more comfortable working at home compared to working outside the home such as in a factory or office. So if you look at this factor, the research is clearly refuted. Maybe for people who are used to working in an office, it can indeed reduce their work performance a little, but maybe that will only happen in a few days, and if you have adapted your work performance will definitely be normal.

For example, when the Covid 19 outbreak hit a few years ago, at that time due to social distancing rules and those related to the Covid 19 outbreak, many companies made all of their employees work from home. And this went on for quite a while, but even though the workers/employees did their work at home, for the majority, I'm sure they did a very good job.

Because the logic is like this, these employees definitely need money, which they get from their jobs, so automatically these employees will do their best so they don't get fired from their company.

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August 09, 2023, 06:44:10 AM
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These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?

It depends on the type of work. If you are a freelance article writer and you are paid per article written, you don't need to go to the office and you can work from anywhere in the world. Besides, you are not employed in the company's staff, you are paid as an external. Now, in most office jobs, what you've seen is this: everyone has some downtime when what is the main task they have to do runs out. If you're at home, when you're done with the task, you go watch TV, lay on the couch or whatever, but if you're in the office and you see your bosses walking by you find things to do so they don't see you standing around, like organizing old files, going to talk to the partner or section chief about how to change the website and things like that.
it does depend on the type of work and one's character, considering that when the house is in the middle of the night it is quiet, many people actually have bright minds and can do work in a focused manner. On the other hand, there are also people who don't want to bring office work home, so I say that there can be differences because people are not the same in nature, especially for freelancers who are only required to complete work on time and with good results, whatever and whatever way. used, which is important in the results of the work in my opinion

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My first thought is that your productivity would depend on the job you're doing from home, and I'm guessing that's a big factor.  I've always been a 9-to-5 job person and never worked from home, but I've known people who have and my impression is that if you aren't passionate about (or even like) your line of work then all the things and people you might have in your home are going to become way, waaay more interesting than actually doing your job.  Consequently, you'll find miraculous reasons to start cleaning your bathroom or going out for walks instead of being on the clock.

Makes sense, doesn't it?  I'm pretty sure the whole productivity thing is why workers were required to come in to work in the first place, centuries ago.  People could have woven clothes at home, or beated iron, but without a boss overseeing them they'd probably just slack off.  That's also likely why management as a subsection of business studies at university came about, i.e, workers need to be managed--often very closely, which can't really happen if that worker is at home.

But man....I'd still love a job where I could be in my underwear all day.  I'd just nail the doors shut and have a little cat-door in one of them for food deliveries.  Lol.

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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

I think this depends on the dedication of the person who is working from home.  I believe it became less productive because people who are working from home do not experience the same pressure when they are at the office where many people eyes are observing the employee.  This make them get easy in doing their job.

But to a person who prioritized integrity and credibility, I do not think that the result of working from home will make any difference when he is working at the office.
Absolutely. Any person who finds high dedication to his work with or without the supervision of his heads, will always finish his work productively. Because he is matured enough to think that he’s been properly compensated of his work, so in return he should give back the trust and confidence that his company has entrusted him. So there’s no big difference with wfh and working on site, except if he is abusing his position at his own comfort.

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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

There are type of jobs where you can do it at home and work from home set up is normal thing nowadays so if the writer of that article think that its not productive then why there are still clients hiring so many workers that can work from them?
Maybe they just get those data on less performing companies but it doesn't mean as a whole. Also we can't deny that their are lazy people but for sure once their client knows or see there performance decline so bad for sure they will be replaced by other productive worker.

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Different job, different character, and different goal are the reasons, so it's really complicated.

There are job that you can be finished ASAP so you can be free, but some are not.

There are people who like to study or work alone, while some like to work with a good place and communicating.

There are people who like to impress and care to everyone, so they will put all of their effort even though they need to kill their own happiness, while some are not.

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I think this depends on the dedication of the person who is working from home.  I believe it became less productive because people who are working from home do not experience the same pressure when they are at the office where many people eyes are observing the employee.  This make them get easy in doing their job.

But to a person who prioritized integrity and credibility, I do not think that the result of working from home will make any difference when he is working at the office.
Absolutely. Any person who finds high dedication to his work with or without the supervision of his heads, will always finish his work productively. Because he is matured enough to think that he’s been properly compensated of his work, so in return he should give back the trust and confidence that his company has entrusted him. So there’s no big difference with wfh and working on site, except if he is abusing his position at his own comfort.

I have witnessed both productive and non-productive individuals during work-from-home setups. Honestly, it does not matter where the work setting is, it is up to the work dedication of the person and he/she is responsible enough to work without any supervision. WFH challenges the integrity, honesty, and work ethic of each individual that will showcase if they can be productive even at the comfort of their home.
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In my case to this topic, I would literally want to work on field since I know to myself that I would just laze around after doing some tasks because if you are at work, you are focused to finished all things unlike at home. Like some problems at houses that could distract you to finish your work for example cleaning, of course for you to have a good performance you'll have to clean your workplace at home where in the work field they have some people that could finish the cleaning. Also the thing that if you are with your family's house since I'm still a working student, they would just keep asking you to do something like simple issues that they could fix despite you're working. Maybe the environment itself would be the reason why I would prefer work at field and of course it would cause me to be productive since I couldn't laze around the work.

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Okay, it's a fairly complex topic, and I don't know what's the tendency in the US, but in my country it's often a choice whether to work from home or from office, although some jobs can have specific conditions listed and it's not up to a person. And often, when you work remotely, there are some results expected from you regularly, but you aren't literally monitored by the company.
Now, let's look at the research information. One thing that stands out to me is that poeple were randomly picked and told that now they'll work from home. Again, I believe it should be a choice of an employee, not something mandated by the company, so perhaps if these were people who worked at the office but were suddenly told to work from home, they fell under the category of those to whom remote work is less preferable. Secondly, they did snaps of workers every 15 minutes, which I bet is a stressful thing to go through. It can add anxiety and discomfort that doesn't exist in the office setting, and that could easily contribute to worse productivity.
So to me, this research simply isn't representative because it was done in a specific way that could mess with the results.

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August 09, 2023, 02:28:42 PM
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These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?
Depending on the type of work you are doing, some tasks may require your complete attention, which you might not have in your workplace, while others may require you to seek out the help of professionals, which you cannot accomplish from home.

Both of them have benefits and drawbacks, but some office workers would welcome the opportunity to work from home because, on occasion, the stress of driving to the workplace can be stressful.

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Can we say the same about freelance workers?
I agree in most cases, actually it can be less or more depending on someone's typical. But there are freelancers who really manage to bring the office atmosphere into their homes. They have regular dedication hours and zero tolerance.
The solution is commitment and consistency to the arrangements that you make yourself, it can also involve several parties just to tell them your busy hour.

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August 09, 2023, 02:54:05 PM
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Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

It depends on the nature of job. Freelancing jobs for instance may not need instead delivery, you are given some time to produce what you are working on. In fact, working from home is more suitable for a freelancing job but if you work in an environment where you need to attend to people on a daily basis then you will be short of performance because you can't do such job in proxy, so it all depends. The research isn't correct as such. If you are a crypto investments analyst then you don't need to be at your office all day to do such job.

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August 09, 2023, 03:03:02 PM
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That is one study we expected after pandemic happened. It was blessing that almost every sector was able to make the work from home availability for us and we continued to survive on our salaries.

This study might be showing the data based on XYZ factors however it does not mention few aspects such as when we started work from there were hundreds of advantages to the companies that made their revenue go up enormously.

For example,

Consider IT company

- they saved money on their electricity bills
- their AC units were shut
- their desktops, laptops and lights were turned off
- canteens appliances turned off
- daily punch system and almost every electronic stuff was turned off

They saved a lot on their various chores.

So if employees were 18% down then probably they were up saving the money on above facts.
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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office.
In my opinion, such an opinion cannot be generalized to all jobs. Because we all know that work is not all in an office or in a factory building. But at home you can also do a job and of course it will be the same. Because the work has many branches and many types. From work that is specifically located in an office, to work that can be done at home.
So I think the research is not complex and not comprehensive in all fields of work.

Then not only that, sometimes there are typical people who are more comfortable working at home compared to working outside the home such as in a factory or office. So if you look at this factor, the research is clearly refuted. Maybe for people who are used to working in an office, it can indeed reduce their work performance a little, but maybe that will only happen in a few days, and if you have adapted your work performance will definitely be normal.

For example, when the Covid 19 outbreak hit a few years ago, at that time due to social distancing rules and those related to the Covid 19 outbreak, many companies made all of their employees work from home. And this went on for quite a while, but even though the workers/employees did their work at home, for the majority, I'm sure they did a very good job.

Because the logic is like this, these employees definitely need money, which they get from their jobs, so automatically these employees will do their best so they don't get fired from their company.
Home office work is not identical to office work, strictly speaking. There are distinctions, nuances, and, of course, advantages. Remember water cooler conversations? What about the vigilant eye of the boss?

Then, when discussing the Covid-19 situation, you stated that everyone worked well from home; however, was this true? How do we know that? Perhaps they worked, but their efficacy and productivity fell short of expectations?

Also, employees working diligently to avoid termination is perhaps a bit of an oversimplification. Existe-t-il d'autres motivations? And what about those who might exploit the absence of surveillance?

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August 09, 2023, 04:07:06 PM
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That should be depends the kind of work you do from home. There are some works that people do in the office that are not productive like the one you do from home and that is why I said all base on the nature of the work. freelance work like writing from home is a very productive work which will give you more time to think and write what you want. There are sometimes what can be done in the office can also be done at home, and also there are sometimes office workers took their works in the office to home and finish it at home so the saying that office workers are more productive than home workers (self employed) is just an imaginative thinking and that is not correct. That study should be revisited to correct some allusions. Working from home is also productive because they are always supervised  by their managers to know if they are doing well. Just like the forum advertisement.

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August 09, 2023, 04:42:58 PM
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That should be depends the kind of work you do from home. There are some works that people do in the office that are not productive like the one you do from home and that is why I said all base on the nature of the work. freelance work like writing from home is a very productive work which will give you more time to think and write what you want. There are sometimes what can be done in the office can also be done at home, and also there are sometimes office workers took their works in the office to home and finish it at home so the saying that office workers are more productive than home workers (self employed) is just an imaginative thinking and that is not correct. That study should be revisited to correct some allusions. Working from home is also productive because they are always supervised  by their managers to know if they are doing well. Just like the forum advertisement.

It is difficult for office workers to adjust to working successfully at home. They are used to working under control, and if you give them free rein, they will work less efficiently. Working from home is relaxing. A freelancer realizes that if he or she doesn't work well from home, he or she will get nothing. An office worker has a salary at his main place of work.
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August 09, 2023, 04:51:43 PM
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No I think this is the opposite, the corporate environment can create many distractions and interruptions, from commuting to time spent on social media. When you come to work, you may feel more tired and easily get lost in leisure activities instead of work.

But when working remotely, you can focus more on your work because there are no distractions from your surroundings. This is really a boon to help you be more productive and use your time better. No need to move also saves you time and better focus on your tasks.

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August 09, 2023, 05:15:39 PM
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No I think this is the opposite, the corporate environment can create many distractions and interruptions, from commuting to time spent on social media. When you come to work, you may feel more tired and easily get lost in leisure activities instead of work.

But when working remotely, you can focus more on your work because there are no distractions from your surroundings. This is really a boon to help you be more productive and use your time better. No need to move also saves you time and better focus on your tasks.
This you said can totally be the reverse. Yes, I mean it. It can also be that at work you will be close monitored and there will not be spare time unless for the necessary breaks. Unlike working from home that if you are not disciplined, you will have to take water and food break every 10 mins.
If you say about work distractions, I understand that some of your colleagues may ne unnecessarily playful during duty time. But home isn't a safe haven because your spouse or kids might unduly need your attention and that will be a very big distraction.
Whether at work or at home,  what is actually needed is discipline and implementation of the correct work ethics.

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August 09, 2023, 06:09:00 PM
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It is difficult for office workers to adjust to working successfully at home. They are used to working under control, and if you give them free rein, they will work less efficiently. Working from home is relaxing. A freelancer realizes that if he or she doesn't work well from home, he or she will get nothing. An office worker has a salary at his main place of work.

I have a job and I think that work related to your job can best be done at office. So workers are defiantly less productive if they work from home as apart from work there is lot of coordination that need to be done. A freelancer on the other hand is boss of his own and knows how to execute the work effectively while not leaving comfort of his home. Even freelancer at home need to give dedicated time to his work to remain successful.
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August 09, 2023, 06:13:02 PM
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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

This was the clear conclusion from the start. There were studies that were trying to obfuscate such an obvious inference by suggesting that remote work led to more productivity. Of course, that was the narrative that was favorable at the time which is why that work got published. Any publication that would be willing to put their institution on research which concluded differently would be ostracized. Freelance work is different. You are incentivized to be productive with your time. Someone working within an organization on a flat payrate doesn't have any incentive to be more productive.
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August 09, 2023, 07:09:06 PM
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It's pretty normal, you know? Everyone feels different vibes when they're grinding at the office compared to hustling from home. When you're working from your crib, you're like laser-focused on the tasks, but you end up burning a good 8 hours a day on personal stuff. Imagine this: remote workers might just clock in like 5 or 6 solid hours, and the rest of the time is like fam hangout or other things on the agenda.

Now, flip the script for those office bees doing the 9-to-5 hustle. No matter how you slice it, those 8 hours, they're like in company mode – always keeping an eye out for the bigwigs. And get this, even when they're back home, a smidge of work sneaks in for tomorrow, even if it's just like half an hour.

The whole vibe and work ethic? Oh, that's totally in the grip of the environment. The more people buzzing around, the more you're lit to dive in too.
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August 09, 2023, 07:32:56 PM
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No I think this is the opposite, the corporate environment can create many distractions and interruptions, from commuting to time spent on social media. When you come to work, you may feel more tired and easily get lost in leisure activities instead of work.

But when working remotely, you can focus more on your work because there are no distractions from your surroundings. This is really a boon to help you be more productive and use your time better. No need to move also saves you time and better focus on your tasks.
Well everything will depend on what type of work is being done. If it's a real job it's more convenient to do it from home. So of course productivity at home is even better. Well, because sometimes at home it's not as busy as at work (company office). so that we can organize ourselves and even manage our own schedule comfortably. But the type of work being done is not the kind of work we like. Then we will tend to procrastinate when we do it at home. This is what might affect work productivity when done at home without supervision from superiors. But if we do a job we love. So wherever we do it, be it at home or at the office, the productivity will still be the same.

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August 09, 2023, 09:18:51 PM
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Well, as long as there are complete resources at home that you can use for your job productivity, then there’s no reason that working from home becomes inefficient and ineffective. In fact, a lot of self-employed individuals who have been working solely at home still find their results impressive and outstanding, so much more to those who were supported by their own company.

The only reason why a job becomes less effective if the worker itself has less motivation to do it. Maybe because the company lacks of bonuses and incentives, the reason why their workers do not have the strong urge to finish their jobs productively.

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August 09, 2023, 09:59:56 PM
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Honestly, working from home by self is what I'm doing right now. It is undeniable, when we are married and have children, working at home is less effective when viewed from our professionalism at work. because sometimes we can only focus on work when the homework is done and the children are sleeping. Even though we have our own workspace, sometimes I will find it hard to focus when the child is crying or asking for help to do some things. moreover they are still children who incidentally want to play with their parents. They still can't understand if their parents have to work even though they are at home, they still think that when their parents are at home, it means they will continue to play with them. And this is not wrong.

Because that is, working at home has its own challenges. it is also undeniable that working at home can be more flexible, very flexible. It can even be really fun. That's why with various conditions related to our homes, we usually really understand the situation. So that we ourselves have to be good at managing time and opportunities to focus on work. So that all our work will be done well and our work as parents also goes in balance. Time management is very important here.

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August 09, 2023, 11:55:48 PM
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These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office.
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I think for now working in an office or working from home is not the most important problem. The most important thing is that the individual can meet their daily needs and earn income.
And I think it's efficient when the work we do can really provide us with income and can improve our finances from time to time.
Then productive is relatively dependent on how the individual manages his thoughts and daily life. Someone who works in an office or at home may be unproductive or monotonous if they only work or carry out their work activities according to what they do every day.


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August 10, 2023, 04:34:29 AM
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These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

I don't think it will be the same for those who work on a freelance basis, because those who work on a freelance basis are people who don't follow orders from other people more but continue to do their own thing while working. And in general, freelancers can also be very productive because they have more free time that is not restricted by any rules, so it will be easier for them to manage their own time according to their wishes.

Meanwhile, workers at home, actually they also have more time for them to organize themselves into their work so there is also an opportunity to be productive as long as the work can always produce greater results. Now, for office workers who must always follow instructions from their superiors, it is clear that they will not be productive enough because part of their time must be used to work in the office. And the rest is for his family and himself, so it's clear that the opportunities to be more productive are very few.
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These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

I don't think it will be the same for those who work on a freelance basis, because those who work on a freelance basis are people who don't follow orders from other people more but continue to do their own thing while working. And in general, freelancers can also be very productive because they have more free time that is not restricted by any rules, so it will be easier for them to manage their own time according to their wishes.

Meanwhile, workers at home, actually they also have more time for them to organize themselves into their work so there is also an opportunity to be productive as long as the work can always produce greater results. Now, for office workers who must always follow instructions from their superiors, it is clear that they will not be productive enough because part of their time must be used to work in the office. And the rest is for his family and himself, so it's clear that the opportunities to be more productive are very few.

I think that psychologically it is impossible to mix work space and leisure space, a home environment where you feel safe. At my job, the boss is very encouraging to me and his presence next to me affects my productivity. But even more influenced by the fact that there is my paradise, it is boring, and there is nothing distracting from work. There are also colleagues there who work as well as I do, and this inspires me to become a better specialist. And at home: TV, cat, PlayStation... these things can only cause a desire to play and do nothing.

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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

Well, that's not going to be the case if a company set a daily task to be accomplished daily, otherwise it is already expected that the workers that work from home will be leas productive than being in the office due to being home in their own comfort zone and there is nobody you can have to have a short talk.
As for the freelancers, I don't think the company will be at loss if a freelancer is less productive than those people in the office, because the company already made a cut on the paycheck for the same set of task.
Me, I'm being paid $5/hr as an individual contractor in a work from home set up with my American client doing the same task as the in-house staff that earns x5 or x6 of my hourly rate.
So, even if I'm 18% less productive do you think the company would care much about it? They could just hire another person for the same rate as me and instantly the company will gain 82% more productive :⁠-⁠)

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August 10, 2023, 06:04:27 AM
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I think that psychologically it is impossible to mix work space and leisure space, a home environment where you feel safe. At my job, the boss is very encouraging to me and his presence next to me affects my productivity. But even more influenced by the fact that there is my paradise, it is boring, and there is nothing distracting from work. There are also colleagues there who work as well as I do, and this inspires me to become a better specialist. And at home: TV, cat, PlayStation... these things can only cause a desire to play and do nothing.
This goes back to each individual person, because not everyone can also have the desire to continue playing at home if there is work that can be done to generate income. Likewise when in the office, because not all bosses can have time to continue to encourage their subordinates or employees every day. So apart from the influence of the environment, I think the influence of ourselves must also be seen, although I also agree with what you said, where the integration of the work space with the recreation room is more than impossible.
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It depends on the salary though.

I mean, I wouldn't give my 100% best in my work if I'm being underpaid with a lot of workload to do every single day. But if I'm being paid correctly based of my talent, for sure I'm always going to be productive whether I'm working in the office or at home. The other thing is that, introvert people are more productive when working at home rather than working in the office.

In short, it will depend on a certain person if he'll slack off in his work wherever it is.
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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

I don't trust that research because I have seen with my own eyes that the ones who work in offices have procrastinated a lot during their working hours and I have also seen the freelancers that have done their best to complete the work within few hours without any delays. I believe that if someone is determined then that user will put a lot of effort to complete his/her work whether he/she is working in a office or working from home as a freelancer.

I know that in some cases the workers who work from home may not be able to work efficiently if their home environment doesn't allow them to be productive, but in most cases the ones who work from home give a lot of time and effort the complete the work in the most efficient way possible. The workers on office are also of same nature, if the working environment of the office is good then the workers will love to focus on the work in the most efficient way, but if the working environment of an office is not good then the workers may not be able to give their best to the work.
 

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I think that psychologically it is impossible to mix work space and leisure space, a home environment where you feel safe. At my job, the boss is very encouraging to me and his presence next to me affects my productivity. But even more influenced by the fact that there is my paradise, it is boring, and there is nothing distracting from work. There are also colleagues there who work as well as I do, and this inspires me to become a better specialist. And at home: TV, cat, PlayStation... these things can only cause a desire to play and do nothing.
This goes back to each individual person, because not everyone can also have the desire to continue playing at home if there is work that can be done to generate income. Likewise when in the office, because not all bosses can have time to continue to encourage their subordinates or employees every day. So apart from the influence of the environment, I think the influence of ourselves must also be seen, although I also agree with what you said, where the integration of the work space with the recreation room is more than impossible.

If this is your first time in a work from home setup, for sure you'll get distracted. I mean you've gotten used to office setups, like the daily routine to go in to the office, but in a work from home setup you won't, and at first you'll get easily distracted. That is why, right now, people like us who have already worked remotely would have their own space just to limit the noise and also not get distracted. Also, playing a game is just what you think because you can't play if you have work, and I can guarantee that. I can play more on an office setup than on a work from home setup because you'll be in a lot of meetings on a daily basis for sure about updates and tasks, and if you play, you won't have an output on that day.
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I guess some companies are lacking workers because people are now working more at home? Can't help it but think this way.

Those who work in a office for a company have a target, their salaries is the first thing that's most important to them, and to make that comes easily they have to do their jobs right.

Now those who work at home also have the same dreams and goals, to make money and nothing else, what makes you think they are less productive? If they are, how are they going to make money?

It's always about the money, if you are making money it's means you are productive and you are doing it right.

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No I think this is the opposite, the corporate environment can create many distractions and interruptions, from commuting to time spent on social media. When you come to work, you may feel more tired and easily get lost in leisure activities instead of work.
You're ridiculous, how is it possible that in a work environment with clear and formal rules you're allowed to do things outside of duty? Unless you're a typical worker who likes to break rules that are not implemented too strictly.

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But when working remotely, you can focus more on your work because there are no distractions from your surroundings. This is really a boon to help you be more productive and use your time better. No need to move also saves you time and better focus on your tasks.
The OP brought examples of people's office environments in general and the atmosphere of a home with a busy household. Your opinion applies without special arrangement to someone who lives alone.

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August 10, 2023, 01:09:34 PM
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I guess some companies are lacking workers because people are now working more at home? Can't help it but think this way.

Those who work in a office for a company have a target, their salaries is the first thing that's most important to them, and to make that comes easily they have to do their jobs right.

Now those who work at home also have the same dreams and goals, to make money and nothing else, what makes you think they are less productive? If they are, how are they going to make money?

It's always about the money, if you are making money it's means you are productive and you are doing it right.

This is a good argument. Will the work setting even matter if the drive to get money is there? People will push themselves to be productive at the end of the day to get the money they need to pay bills and pay their expenses for their lifestyle. At the end of the day it is still work and their primary source of income. So, does it matter?
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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office.
In my opinion, such an opinion cannot be generalized to all jobs. Because we all know that work is not all in an office or in a factory building. But at home you can also do a job and of course it will be the same. Because the work has many branches and many types. From work that is specifically located in an office, to work that can be done at home.
So I think the research is not complex and not comprehensive in all fields of work.

Then not only that, sometimes there are typical people who are more comfortable working at home compared to working outside the home such as in a factory or office. So if you look at this factor, the research is clearly refuted. Maybe for people who are used to working in an office, it can indeed reduce their work performance a little, but maybe that will only happen in a few days, and if you have adapted your work performance will definitely be normal.

For example, when the Covid 19 outbreak hit a few years ago, at that time due to social distancing rules and those related to the Covid 19 outbreak, many companies made all of their employees work from home. And this went on for quite a while, but even though the workers/employees did their work at home, for the majority, I'm sure they did a very good job.

Because the logic is like this, these employees definitely need money, which they get from their jobs, so automatically these employees will do their best so they don't get fired from their company.
Home office work is not identical to office work, strictly speaking. There are distinctions, nuances, and, of course, advantages. Remember water cooler conversations? What about the vigilant eye of the boss?

Then, when discussing the Covid-19 situation, you stated that everyone worked well from home; however, was this true? How do we know that? Perhaps they worked, but their efficacy and productivity fell short of expectations?

Also, employees working diligently to avoid termination is perhaps a bit of an oversimplification. Existe-t-il d'autres motivations? And what about those who might exploit the absence of surveillance?
Working in an office and working at home, in terms of nuances and circumstances, will definitely be different, and it's true that working from home too, there really won't be the eyes of a boss who is always watching directly. But even so, the name of the job, it is a responsibility that must be done and completed as well as possible. So even though working at home, in my view the sense of responsibility for the job will continue and cannot be removed from the minds of these employees. Because even though working from home, every employee whose performance has decreased will definitely be seen by their boss or boss. Because as I know, when Covid 19 hit, many were doing work from home, but while making video calls via zoom. So people who are slow or people who don't participate will definitely be monitored in the end.

So in my view, there is no reason whatsoever to reduce work performance even if it's done from home.

And for the problem of workers who work because they are afraid of being fired, in my opinion this is one of the basic reasons that makes sense. Because the workers, surely the majority don't want to be kicked out of their workplace. Moreover, the job has made him comfortable in terms of work and co-workers in it. So in my opinion this reason is a quite reasonable reason, if it is owned by the workers.

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Well, working from home actually offers more convenience for workers. No need to wear formal attire and no need to travel and spend money and time. However, despite of its advantages, there are also some noted reasons why working from home become less efficient and less productive. There are these home life distractions that will lessen your focus on your job and as an outcome, your work becomes affected and compromised. Also, the fact that you are less monitored by your heads or supervisors, makes you more less motivated to your work and put your own job at a risk. Nonetheless, the things that I mentioned may not be applicable to all workers/employees since each of them has different working condition.

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August 10, 2023, 06:31:38 PM
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Well, working from home actually offers more convenience for workers. No need to wear formal attire and no need to travel and spend money and time. However, despite of its advantages, there are also some noted reasons why working from home become less efficient and less productive. There are these home life distractions that will lessen your focus on your job and as an outcome, your work becomes affected and compromised. Also, the fact that you are less monitored by your heads or supervisors, makes you more less motivated to your work and put your own job at a risk. Nonetheless, the things that I mentioned may not be applicable to all workers/employees since each of them has different working condition.
Right now work from home or WFH most searching job around many people due easily controlling work without have spent more time with work from office or WFO. Since pandemic covid 19 last two years, my country companies have adopted with work from home and effective with many companies keep existing since pandemic more than two years. Not only benefit for worker but also company get beneficial without need spent much money for their worker transportation and build up luxury place. For the future, will have many companies priority with their worker have skill with work from home and use few days in week work from office because development progress from technology make us easy with controlling working without have to go to office.

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August 10, 2023, 07:23:39 PM
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These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?
Maybe from interaction factors that make working from home inefficient and less productive. To carry out work in the field of self-employment or business using the work-at-home method is impossible because we have to deal directly with the audience. However, you also have to recognize in advance what kind of work is meant because not all work has to be done in the office or vice versa not all work can be done outside the office.

The current work method is very diverse, both the salary is calculated per hour, day or month. This is where we have to recognize work that can be done in the office or outside and when we choose one of them, the decision to work in the office or outside can be adjusted according to the previous work agreement.

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It could vary from person to person. Some people do the work when they are pushed and some do it because they enjoy it. So if you put them in both scenarios, the result will be different. If you put a person in a cozy environment and no one is watching over him, he will most likely do the job slowly or skip for days or two. Same thing with a person who loves to do the job, he will do it no matter the situation. Lazy people will work when they are being watched or are in a strict environment.
But it all comes up to your ability to do the work. As long as you can do the job in any kind of environment, you are all good. Also, lazy people will invent the quickest way to do the work.

But what I think is, when you are in an office and doing the job from time to time, it will become a habit and keep you working. If you can maintain the same habit at home, then it won't matter where you work. As for freelancers, isn't it the reason why they choose to be a freelancer? To be free. You are your own boss and you make the rules. But not everyone can become successful doing freelancing. Those who are successful, have a strict routine that they follow. So I guess, it's on you how you take the job and how you do it.
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August 10, 2023, 07:37:40 PM
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Well, working from home actually offers more convenience for workers. No need to wear formal attire and no need to travel and spend money and time. However, despite of its advantages, there are also some noted reasons why working from home become less efficient and less productive. There are these home life distractions that will lessen your focus on your job and as an outcome, your work becomes affected and compromised. Also, the fact that you are less monitored by your heads or supervisors, makes you more less motivated to your work and put your own job at a risk. Nonetheless, the things that I mentioned may not be applicable to all workers/employees since each of them has different working condition.

I've been working from home for a while and I do agree with the research, but there's a catch. There's a huge difference between people who worked from home the whole time and people who were moved from office to their homes during the pandemic and stayed there because it was more convenient for the company. People who always worked online are used to it and they can focus on their tasks.
I have a friend who used to work from the office and he told me that the company offered them bonuses to stay home because they had saved so much on electricity that they could give everyone a raise and still make more money. If I were him I'd also take the raise and stay home.

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August 10, 2023, 08:41:44 PM
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I think work atmosphere is important, many people can be productive when the work environment is supportive, and conversely if we work from home then people think that home is a relaxed place so it won't be uplifting, in my opinion the best thing is if we want to increase high productivity is working in an office.
Well, for some people working in an office might indeed encourage them to be able to work to be more productive. But for people who don't like pressure from their boss, working at home can make them more focused and more productive.
The point is that everyone seems to have different thoughts about this. Depending on the type of work and also the type of personality of each person. For example, an introvert, they must be more productive when working alone. In contrast to extroverts who are actually more productive when working together like in an office with other employees.

So when it comes to being productive, everyone has their own thoughts about this. Some say at the office and some say at home. But I personally tend to think that the majority might be more productive if they work in an office.

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Maybe that could be true for some unmotivated workers who focus on their own rather than to focus on the productivity of their job. Especially that they are not closely monitored by their bosses, well expect that they will only work for few hours and kill the time with other self entertaining works.

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I think work atmosphere is important, many people can be productive when the work environment is supportive, and conversely if we work from home then people think that home is a relaxed place so it won't be uplifting, in my opinion the best thing is if we want to increase high productivity is working in an office.
Well, for some people working in an office might indeed encourage them to be able to work to be more productive. But for people who don't like pressure from their boss, working at home can make them more focused and more productive.
The point is that everyone seems to have different thoughts about this. Depending on the type of work and also the type of personality of each person. For example, an introvert, they must be more productive when working alone. In contrast to extroverts who are actually more productive when working together like in an office with other employees.

So when it comes to being productive, everyone has their own thoughts about this. Some say at the office and some say at home. But I personally tend to think that the majority might be more productive if they work in an office.
This is situational and it would really be just that impossible that there would be no tracking or tracing up about their performances specially to those who do work out from home.There's always a specific task or job that would be given, no matter how long they would be able to finish out that job as long it would really be done in a day then this is what matter the most. WFH wont really be that rampant if it doesnt really give out that good outcome but we are seeing the different thing which it does mean that it is really that still productive.It is really just that there are people who doesnt really prefer on working from home and there are ones who do love on staying up on the convenience of their own home. For me,if i were to choose then i would really be loving on making that work from home,
less hassle on commute although you would really be just working solo and not having those co-workers but if you do like that socialization then this isnt for you but if you are that kind of introvert
then it would really be not that not an issue.

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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?
I disagree with the publication, I think it depends on the type of job and how the company pay salaries. If salaries are performance based then surely it wouldn’t matter if the workers come in to the office or work remotely, they would give 100% to their job because they know their paycheck depends on their productivity. There are two sides to the coin; there are people who need to be in that work space or atmosphere to be able to perform, but working from home eliminates the toxic work environment problem that workers complain about.

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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?
I disagree with the publication, I think it depends on the type of job and how the company pay salaries. If salaries are performance based then surely it wouldn’t matter if the workers come in to the office or work remotely, they would give 100% to their job because they know their paycheck depends on their productivity. There are two sides to the coin; there are people who need to be in that work space or atmosphere to be able to perform, but working from home eliminates the toxic work environment problem that workers complain about.

and mostly this is in remote jobs to be 100% productivity because a lot of those people are monitored by a time tracker to know what they are doing, and worse is that they are going to micromanage you, which for sure you can't rest in a bit. Also, having a less toxic environment is really good, as it can make you more motivated to go to work, and you'll be doing what you want without thinking that the eyes are on you.
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No I think this is the opposite, the corporate environment can create many distractions and interruptions, from commuting to time spent on social media. When you come to work, you may feel more tired and easily get lost in leisure activities instead of work.
You're ridiculous, how is it possible that in a work environment with clear and formal rules you're allowed to do things outside of duty? Unless you're a typical worker who likes to break rules that are not implemented too strictly.
To be fair, if you have a busy home, like a wife and a few kids, and you do not explain them well enough that you need to work and they do not respect your working space, then it's true that you are going to be able to be a lot more productive at work. But if you are single, or married with no kids, or married with kids but they all respect your working space, those are all things that can make you even more productive.

As someone who has worked at home for god knows how long, I can tell you that it's definitely better to work at home. I am a lot more productive at home because nobody bothers me here, and I am in my own room and working for hours and hours a day every single day and that makes it a lot better without a doubt.

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No I think this is the opposite, the corporate environment can create many distractions and interruptions, from commuting to time spent on social media. When you come to work, you may feel more tired and easily get lost in leisure activities instead of work.
You're ridiculous, how is it possible that in a work environment with clear and formal rules you're allowed to do things outside of duty? Unless you're a typical worker who likes to break rules that are not implemented too strictly.
To be fair, if you have a busy home, like a wife and a few kids, and you do not explain them well enough that you need to work and they do not respect your working space, then it's true that you are going to be able to be a lot more productive at work. But if you are single, or married with no kids, or married with kids but they all respect your working space, those are all things that can make you even more productive.

As someone who has worked at home for god knows how long, I can tell you that it's definitely better to work at home. I am a lot more productive at home because nobody bothers me here, and I am in my own room and working for hours and hours a day every single day and that makes it a lot better without a doubt.

This is true, it really depends on the situation you have at home and how your household is being handled. It depends on the attitude and environment you have to ensure that you will be productive or not. I know a lot of people who work from home and are really doing well with their job despite being married and having kids. While I also know people who work on-site and are doing just as well.
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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?
To be honest, this all just depends on one's mood, whether working at the office or at home when the mood is bad everything will get messy. As for efficiency, in my opinion, it makes sense if this research certainly refers to the context of social interaction that occurs in the workplace environment which drives it in a positive direction, but for someone who is a loner, this situation will greatly interfere with his work productivity. So 2 different conditions will create different environments, all have levels of mutual influence on each other. Working at home, we have control over time, managing who can enter the workspace, while in the office we are involved in a lot of interactions that can occasionally be annoying. It all comes back to one's mood and cannot be generalized evenly.

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August 11, 2023, 02:44:07 PM
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It's not the case here in our country in fact our government encourages working from home because it will save time from commuting an average worker here in our country spend 3 to 5 hours of commuting because we have one of the worse traffic here in our country and by working from home the worker will be more productive because they can spend more quality works because they don't have to dress up and commute saving money and time.
Besides companies here have grading systems you need to be productive and efficient to stay on the job or be promoted so I could say it's a country-to-country situation or scenario.

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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
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These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

The important thing is to finish the work on time. There are companies that are not interested in what you do at home or in the office, but only in the result you produce. The cost of opening an office can be very high. Now it is often preferred to eliminate this cost and use the work-from-home method.

I think the main thing to do is to reduce the working hours in the office. Because in this way, one can work more efficiently in less time. He can also spare the remaining time for himself. If a person who has the chance to finish a job in 3 hours spends all the remaining time at the workplace, this person's productivity may decrease. A lot of changes need to be made in this regard. Many companies have started to make such changes.
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For me there is no sign of truth or evidence of reality to which the body of the content is directly explaining, why because there are some individual who made their home a personal office does it mean that these sets of people aren't making great inputs to their lives?

No! Because lots of people do love working from home as a matter of fact there could be more productivity and improvement while at their basic entities because there is nothing to worry about.
Lemme draw a little attention to those who worked at office, most times they aren't that open due to some personal issues or wanting to be free some kinds of worries even though they are in their place of work their minds and thinking are still channelled to their problems making it too difficulty to be productive and to get a meaningful results.

But that notwithstanding, most times it all depends on individual mindset and orientation, anyone who is determined to progress in life would definitely make it without any barrier or having to choose the best place to seat and work from. Lets say, in a family of 4 why is it that either 1 or 2 persons are making progress whereby almost all are graduates does it mean that the persons aren't determined to make success? No it's just a matter of heart "Dearing to succeed", therefore productiveness comes from heart orientation personal desireness [ permit me to use this word "Desireness' if there's a word like that] hence I would say working from home or having an office from doesn't determined how resourceful a woman should be or maybe how resourceful a man should be.

Apparently, there are sets of lazy bunch of banana's who doesn't like to work and knees to successful in life, and these sets of people fall under the category of "lemme manage the work at hand while my dream job come fort" are the people who may make the job looks very stressful and not yield any meaningful results to the entire organization and company, and if I am the CEO of such organization the only options I had is to get them fired off and to get them replaced by people who are knees to make progress in the company and, or the organization.
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Well, working from home actually offers more convenience for workers. No need to wear formal attire and no need to travel and spend money and time. However, despite of its advantages, there are also some noted reasons why working from home become less efficient and less productive. There are these home life distractions that will lessen your focus on your job and as an outcome, your work becomes affected and compromised. Also, the fact that you are less monitored by your heads or supervisors, makes you more less motivated to your work and put your own job at a risk. Nonetheless, the things that I mentioned may not be applicable to all workers/employees since each of them has different working condition.

I've been working from home for a while and I do agree with the research, but there's a catch. There's a huge difference between people who worked from home the whole time and people who were moved from office to their homes during the pandemic and stayed there because it was more convenient for the company. People who always worked online are used to it and they can focus on their tasks.
I have a friend who used to work from the office and he told me that the company offered them bonuses to stay home because they had saved so much on electricity that they could give everyone a raise and still make more money. If I were him I'd also take the raise and stay home.
I guess the interaction with coworker is what people wanted leading them to be RTO. I don't really like to do RTO considering that the corporate building I work at is kinda time-consuming, but good thing they offer good rate as well as flexibility in time.

Kinda just pain in the ass to pain in the wallet to deal with transportation. It might be fulfilling for some people to travel, but it kinda gets into you slowly. Going home tired, budgeting your expenses and also the distance of the travel as well.

The important thing is to finish the work on time. There are companies that are not interested in what you do at home or in the office, but only in the result you produce. The cost of opening an office can be very high. Now it is often preferred to eliminate this cost and use the work-from-home method.

I think the main thing to do is to reduce the working hours in the office. Because in this way, one can work more efficiently in less time. He can also spare the remaining time for himself. If a person who has the chance to finish a job in 3 hours spends all the remaining time at the workplace, this person's productivity may decrease. A lot of changes need to be made in this regard. Many companies have started to make such changes.
Some company do offer that kind reduction in the office. Not sure why don't company just go for full-time work from home so that their corporate building would consume less resources to keep their employees sated in their needs. The electricity, coffee, and the office equipments as well, kinda saves them a ton.
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I know something about that since I have a little kid at home and my wife takes care of her. When I work from home they treat me like I'm still there to help.

I used to work downstairs but it was unbearable. For instance my wife would ask me things, talk to me, share thoughts, treat me like I was there watching TV, not working and focusing on my task. I moved upstairs, but it's still the same, just that she screams to me from downstairs asking me if I can come down because of whatever, like there's a spider, or the cart brought in a lizard, or a million other things of similar importance.

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I know something about that since I have a little kid at home and my wife takes care of her. When I work from home they treat me like I'm still there to help.

I used to work downstairs but it was unbearable. For instance my wife would ask me things, talk to me, share thoughts, treat me like I was there watching TV, not working and focusing on my task. I moved upstairs, but it's still the same, just that she screams to me from downstairs asking me if I can come down because of whatever, like there's a spider, or the cart brought in a lizard, or a million other things of similar importance.
Without a doubt that can be hard and it makes sense that you may feel you are more productive at the office as you would have way less distractions, however there are arguments on favor for working from home as well, as not only you can avoid commuting from and to your job, save on clothes, gasoline and food, but if you like your job and you are good at it you could even finish it in just a fraction of the time, and use the rest of your time in something you may like more.
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I know something about that since I have a little kid at home and my wife takes care of her. When I work from home they treat me like I'm still there to help.

I used to work downstairs but it was unbearable. For instance my wife would ask me things, talk to me, share thoughts, treat me like I was there watching TV, not working and focusing on my task. I moved upstairs, but it's still the same, just that she screams to me from downstairs asking me if I can come down because of whatever, like there's a spider, or the cart brought in a lizard, or a million other things of similar importance.
Without a doubt that can be hard and it makes sense that you may feel you are more productive at the office as you would have way less distractions, however there are arguments on favor for working from home as well, as not only you can avoid commuting from and to your job, save on clothes, gasoline and food, but if you like your job and you are good at it you could even finish it in just a fraction of the time, and use the rest of your time in something you may like more.

You are correct. The two work settings both have pros and cons, and those are also dependent on the worker. Some prefers working from home and some likes working on site. We cannot really judge it that easily as we all have different situations and work environment. It all comes down to personal preferences at the end of the day.
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August 12, 2023, 11:04:03 AM
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Not all those who work in a company are more productive anyway, we are now in a world where what you have to offer is what will bring food to your table, either you are working from home or not, you ain't getting paid if you don't do your work right, isn't this the case?

Some works can b done at home, I remember the COVID-19 days, some new projects in the crypto space continue to build and they host their meetings online, in the end everything still went smoothly for them.

I would say it depends, if you are lazy it means you will remain a lazy person even if you go to work every morning or you are working at home.
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I have also read multiple researches that tells that people are less productive when they work from home, but I'm still not convinced because these researches has still lapses. I have known a lot of people who are working remotely and people who are working in their offices. And I can tell that the working environment affects little to none of their productivity, because it still depends on the person. A lot of remote workers are working 16 hours a day, while people who are in the offices are only required at least 8 hours per day. But, can we really measure productivity? is it the time you spent during the work or is it the effort you put in that work? Afterall, I believe that productivity is subjective, it is how we see it.

It's not the case here in our country in fact our government encourages working from home because it will save time from commuting an average worker here in our country spend 3 to 5 hours of commuting because we have one of the worse traffic here in our country and by working from home the worker will be more productive because they can spend more quality works because they don't have to dress up and commute saving money and time.
Besides companies here have grading systems you need to be productive and efficient to stay on the job or be promoted so I could say it's a country-to-country situation or scenario.

I couldn't agree more. Traffic kills productivity. If you're spending at least 3-5 hours in traffic, then you become less productive in this sense. While people who work from their home can start their work without getting stuck in traffic and doesn't have to spend or waste their time in traffic.



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August 12, 2023, 07:45:56 PM
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It's really depend on the job and how they get paid.

If he get paid per hour, day, month and after he completed his task, his boss or manager will give him more task, why he need to deliver his job as soon as possible if he can cheat or work slower?

If he's a freelancer and he get paid according to his task, he will his best to deliver his job as soon as possible to earn maximum money.
I'm okay if my boss will provide more work but as long as I will get another set of payments. I will still try to prioritize my health over money so I will not accept more task if I think it's already late at night. Task-based jobs seems to be a better fit for me, so that I can have more time for my self and I can choose freely if I will work or not as there are times that I'm feeling lazy.

I should only save first so that I will still have something to spend if I'm not in the mood of making money. There is no science on why working from home makes people less productive. That is because there are so many distractions around us but there are still measures that we can do to overcome it.

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These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office.
If you work from home, have a good space for your office setup, and try to maintain a disciplined schedule and mindset of the need to work. If you can condition yourself properly, you will be as productive as someone who is in a conditioned environment as the office setup to work. If you work from home, you will be at the danger of getting easily distracted, procrastinating work or lazying around. Those are things that have to be consciously avoided when you make the decision to work from home or have accepted the offer to work from home. Many of the people who made the research about efficiency go the way of the people who work from office are the people who have not been able to overcome the many distractions and challenges that come with working from home.

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August 12, 2023, 08:54:03 PM
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It depends on the salary though.

I mean, I wouldn't give my 100% best in my work if I'm being underpaid with a lot of workload to do every single day. But if I'm being paid correctly based of my talent, for sure I'm always going to be productive whether I'm working in the office or at home. The other thing is that, introvert people are more productive when working at home rather than working in the office.

In short, it will depend on a certain person if he'll slack off in his work wherever it is.
Well, we all work to receive good compensation. But if we are not fully compensated, a lot would prefer to leave the job instead than to work still, and end up less productive. Not just in working from home, but also in working on site. However, on the part of introvert people, if they’ll stay more productive working from home, does that mean that they will be less productive if they are assigned at the office? For me, whether you’re introvert or extrovert, as long as you’re properly compensated, you should make your job impressive as well, right?

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August 12, 2023, 09:09:04 PM
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It depends on the salary though.

I mean, I wouldn't give my 100% best in my work if I'm being underpaid with a lot of workload to do every single day. But if I'm being paid correctly based of my talent, for sure I'm always going to be productive whether I'm working in the office or at home. The other thing is that, introvert people are more productive when working at home rather than working in the office.

In short, it will depend on a certain person if he'll slack off in his work wherever it is.
Well, we all work to receive good compensation. But if we are not fully compensated, a lot would prefer to leave the job instead than to work still, and end up less productive. Not just in working from home, but also in working on site. However, on the part of introvert people, if they’ll stay more productive working from home, does that mean that they will be less productive if they are assigned at the office? For me, whether you’re introvert or extrovert, as long as you’re properly compensated, you should make your job impressive as well, right?

Yeah, look for other jobs instead of not being happy with the current pay. And I guess for the employers, if their WFH employees are submitting everything in a timely manner and everything looks good then there they are happy and so we can say that the employees are productive as well.

And not just in the pandemic, but even prior to that there are a lot of us here who have found WFH already. Even in the early 2000's WFH is a thing already, so if it is not productive then how come companies are allowing it before?

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August 12, 2023, 09:17:23 PM
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Not all those who work in a company are more productive anyway, we are now in a world where what you have to offer is what will bring food to your table, either you are working from home or not, you ain't getting paid if you don't do your work right, isn't this the case?

Productivity is what we should be after and not what other people are saying about the work conditions irrespective of being a home or office location job, how effective can we deliver what is within our capacity and what is being expected of us, the capacity to how far we can deliver depends on our ability and personal interest, where we think we can perform best give the best quality delivery in our abilities, what you give in is what you receive back as reward to your labour in form of wages, location should not be a barrier.

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August 12, 2023, 09:19:20 PM
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It depends on the salary though.

I mean, I wouldn't give my 100% best in my work if I'm being underpaid with a lot of workload to do every single day. But if I'm being paid correctly based of my talent, for sure I'm always going to be productive whether I'm working in the office or at home. The other thing is that, introvert people are more productive when working at home rather than working in the office.

In short, it will depend on a certain person if he'll slack off in his work wherever it is.
Well, we all work to receive good compensation. But if we are not fully compensated, a lot would prefer to leave the job instead than to work still, and end up less productive. Not just in working from home, but also in working on site. However, on the part of introvert people, if they’ll stay more productive working from home, does that mean that they will be less productive if they are assigned at the office? For me, whether you’re introvert or extrovert, as long as you’re properly compensated, you should make your job impressive as well, right?

Yeah, look for other jobs instead of not being happy with the current pay. And I guess for the employers, if their WFH employees are submitting everything in a timely manner and everything looks good then there they are happy and so we can say that the employees are productive as well.

And not just in the pandemic, but even prior to that there are a lot of us here who have found WFH already. Even in the early 2000's WFH is a thing already, so if it is not productive then how come companies are allowing it before?

I agree that it all depends on the salary and the impact of the company to their employees mental health. As for me, if a person is happy with the compensation and the working environment, he will be productive especially if he's enjoying his job but if the company is lowballing their employees, unproductiveness usually exist.
I have experienced this multiple times. As per my personal observation, it is really easier and lighter to perform our best to a company that values our effort and compensate us with what we deserve. If the company knows how to value their workers and how to give them importance, they will surely give back the best performance to keep the position.
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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?
I disagree with the publication, I think it depends on the type of job and how the company pay salaries. If salaries are performance based then surely it wouldn’t matter if the workers come in to the office or work remotely, they would give 100% to their job because they know their paycheck depends on their productivity. There are two sides to the coin; there are people who need to be in that work space or atmosphere to be able to perform, but working from home eliminates the toxic work environment problem that workers complain about.
and mostly this is in remote jobs to be 100% productivity because a lot of those people are monitored by a time tracker to know what they are doing, and worse is that they are going to micromanage you, which for sure you can't rest in a bit. Also, having a less toxic environment is really good, as it can make you more motivated to go to work, and you'll be doing what you want without thinking that the eyes are on you.

It will be very difficult for remote workers to come back to the office. Just being able to start a day at work without having to go through the crazy traffic is a blessing, that alone sets the tone of the day to be a productive day. I have friends who haven’t stepped foot in an office since Covid and they are at their happiest. To be honest, I think the value in working in an office is overrated.

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August 12, 2023, 11:59:35 PM
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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?
I disagree with the publication, I think it depends on the type of job and how the company pay salaries. If salaries are performance based then surely it wouldn’t matter if the workers come in to the office or work remotely, they would give 100% to their job because they know their paycheck depends on their productivity. There are two sides to the coin; there are people who need to be in that work space or atmosphere to be able to perform, but working from home eliminates the toxic work environment problem that workers complain about.
and mostly this is in remote jobs to be 100% productivity because a lot of those people are monitored by a time tracker to know what they are doing, and worse is that they are going to micromanage you, which for sure you can't rest in a bit. Also, having a less toxic environment is really good, as it can make you more motivated to go to work, and you'll be doing what you want without thinking that the eyes are on you.

It will be very difficult for remote workers to come back to the office. Just being able to start a day at work without having to go through the crazy traffic is a blessing, that alone sets the tone of the day to be a productive day. I have friends who haven’t stepped foot in an office since Covid and they are at their happiest. To be honest, I think the value in working in an office is overrated.
One of the reasons on why i do prefer remote work than on going to office is just because of traffic which is really that too hassle. Every year traffic comes even more worst here in our country on which it is really that greatly affecting your performance if you are keeping on getting late from work due to that issue or problem. HAve the solution on going early? Its one of the things i dont like on getting up early in the morning just to avoid that traffic which it is totally be wiped out or cant be experienced if you are working from home. Well, this is a matter of self preference since there are people who do really like for them to go to work and would be facing up with co-workers or simply does have that liking on socialization. This is why its really that much depending on the situation
since not all would really be able to get some traditional work and would be having the options on applying on what they do able to seek online but of course not all would really be getting hired
and there are still people who are jobless. Efficiency? I dont see much difference as long the work or tasks would be done then that what matter the most.

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August 13, 2023, 05:28:32 AM
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Productivity is what we should be after and not what other people are saying about the work conditions irrespective of being a home or office location job, how effective can we deliver what is within our capacity and what is being expected of us, the capacity to how far we can deliver depends on our ability and personal interest, where we think we can perform best give the best quality delivery in our abilities, what you give in is what you receive back as reward to your labour in form of wages, location should not be a barrier.
It is true that for some people there is no problem doing work wherever and whenever they can do their work, but for some people they must have a special place to be able to do their work so they can get satisfactory results for them. You are right, what we do, of course, is in accordance with the wages we get at work, it is very impossible for us to provide good quality work while we don't get good wages either.
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August 13, 2023, 11:41:50 AM
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Productivity is what we should be after and not what other people are saying about the work conditions irrespective of being a home or office location job, how effective can we deliver what is within our capacity and what is being expected of us, the capacity to how far we can deliver depends on our ability and personal interest, where we think we can perform best give the best quality delivery in our abilities, what you give in is what you receive back as reward to your labour in form of wages, location should not be a barrier.
It is true that for some people there is no problem doing work wherever and whenever they can do their work, but for some people they must have a special place to be able to do their work so they can get satisfactory results for them. You are right, what we do, of course, is in accordance with the wages we get at work, it is very impossible for us to provide good quality work while we don't get good wages either.
I agree with both points. Personally, I do not like working around noisy environments but can be really productive when there is low volume jazz or chillhop music playing. As for the wages, of course that is an important factor. I will not enjoy working for a company that barely pays for the worth I am working and my time as well. I'm sure a lot of individuals will not as well.
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August 13, 2023, 01:31:44 PM
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These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

I thought America is a place where life is always at ease, this article is saying otherwise but I think it's an opinion rather than fact. If it appears to be true, many companies would by now avoid such kind of working policy, they would have change things but during the Covid 19 lock down, so many companies found out that they are even spending less when they work from home than when everyone present their self in the work place and since when they employed it, they haven't reverse it till now.

However, this is limited to some jobs, not every work can be done from home like the field work where your presence and effort is required. Jobs that can be done remotely and transmit are normal but to avoid problems like this headline, it's better to have a workspace at home where you can work comfortably than sitting in your room while doing the job.

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August 13, 2023, 01:45:16 PM
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These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

I have heard about this research as well that workers are suddenly less efficient from home. This comes as somewhat of a surprise to me, because I still remember companies saying during the covid pandemic that working from home is fine and doesn't decrease efficiency. Now with the lock downs being over and the covid pandemic officially ended, the companies want their workers to return to office. And all of a sudden there is research to back up their decisions. Personally I don't think working from home is reducing efficiency that much. Sure working from home you might take a few small breaks on the side, but you would do the same in the office. Cigarette or coffee breaks where quite common in my company, or walking to meeting rooms and waiting for everybody to arrive. Now with all the zoom meetings you save a lot of time and can even work on the side. Also the whole concept of commuting to work saves so much time where we can already be reachable for the boss in emergencies.
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I'm surprised to hear that this research found work-from-home workers to be less productive. When I used to work onsite, I saw that employees take their sweet time in everything and clock out on the dot because they'll have to travel back home. I guess it's also because of the distractions at home vs when they're onsite and everything they see is work-related.

My boss in my previous job feared that people who are working from home will just do the bare minimum and still get the same amount of salary. He then required all of the work-from-home employees to submit a daily report of their activities so that he'll be able to check if they did enough work. I think this is a massive failure because there are people who's quick in getting the job done so they'd do everything for 2-3 hours and just chill out for the rest.

My current boss treats us like freelancers in the sense that he lets us own projects. I do think that this method is more effective, as it makes the employees more productive, enhances leadership skill, and boosts morale. Output-based is definitely better.
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August 13, 2023, 06:20:45 PM
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It will be very difficult for remote workers to come back to the office. Just being able to start a day at work without having to go through the crazy traffic is a blessing, that alone sets the tone of the day to be a productive day. I have friends who haven’t stepped foot in an office since Covid and they are at their happiest. To be honest, I think the value in working in an office is overrated.

Work from home has its own pros and cons. The biggest benefit is you don't wake up 2 to 3 hours prior to your office timings, get ready and then reach to your work place. If you are given a work from home option you can  wake up 10 to 15 minutes before your office timings and start working immediately. For many people working from home is no doubt a blessing.
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August 13, 2023, 06:25:52 PM
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A little too biased for people who work on office, especially when hundreds of case papers were made about the efficacy of Work-from-home. I'm a living example of it too. I worked on-site for a while, and found that not only is my health deteriorating due to the stress of the work and the commute, but the fact that I also end up late more often because of the proximity of the office from my house meant less work is getting done. Now, I clock in without worries and do my job at my fullest capacities without the worry of getting late for anything, since all my work's in one place. I reckon these studies made against work-from-home were backed by companies who rent offices so they can force their employees to go to work cause they can't keep paying for offices that aren't getting filled lol.
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For me there is no sign of truth or evidence of reality to which the body of the content is directly explaining, why because there are some individual who made their home a personal office does it mean that these sets of people aren't making great inputs to their lives?

No! Because lots of people do love working from home as a matter of fact there could be more productivity and improvement while at their basic entities because there is nothing to worry about.
Lemme draw a little attention to those who worked at office, most times they aren't that open due to some personal issues or wanting to be free some kinds of worries even though they are in their place of work their minds and thinking are still channelled to their problems making it too difficulty to be productive and to get a meaningful results.

But that notwithstanding, most times it all depends on individual mindset and orientation, anyone who is determined to progress in life would definitely make it without any barrier or having to choose the best place to seat and work from. Lets say, in a family of 4 why is it that either 1 or 2 persons are making progress whereby almost all are graduates does it mean that the persons aren't determined to make success? No it's just a matter of heart "Dearing to succeed", therefore productiveness comes from heart orientation personal desireness [ permit me to use this word "Desireness' if there's a word like that] hence I would say working from home or having an office from doesn't determined how resourceful a woman should be or maybe how resourceful a man should be.

Apparently, there are sets of lazy bunch of banana's who doesn't like to work and knees to successful in life, and these sets of people fall under the category of "lemme manage the work at hand while my dream job come fort" are the people who may make the job looks very stressful and not yield any meaningful results to the entire organization and company, and if I am the CEO of such organization the only options I had is to get them fired off and to get them replaced by people who are knees to make progress in the company and, or the organization.
I totally understand and agree with your submission. A lot of young people I know are entrepreneur and work from home. If these ones are unproductive, it means they will fail... but a lot of them succeed and even work harder and smarter than those going to the offices or sites of their employers. Those who are unproductive because they are working from home are lazy or never loved what they do.

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August 13, 2023, 09:08:36 PM
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I could not attest to it because I myself is also a work from home worker and yet, I still manage to finish my task on its due date, and on its best outcome. However, probably with workers who have a lot of distractions at home, like they need to take care of their kids and attend to their needs, send them to school, do the household chores, most likely the time to get the job done will be affected as well as its outcome and productivity. If the same scenario will continue, this will leave a negative impact on the company causing its productivity rate to suddenly fall.

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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?
Sometimes I wonder how they carry out these surveys because in reality, the results are quite different from what results they published online and I don't know the criteria they used in judging and publishing this article. I do think that the point at which they are mainly looking on is the basis that people don't carry loads around in the house as used to in offices and workplaces.

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I could not attest to it because I myself is also a work from home worker and yet, I still manage to finish my task on its due date, and on its best outcome. However, probably with workers who have a lot of distractions at home, like they need to take care of their kids and attend to their needs, send them to school, do the household chores, most likely the time to get the job done will be affected as well as its outcome and productivity. If the same scenario will continue, this will leave a negative impact on the company causing its productivity rate to suddenly fall.
As said the work from home atmosphere won't be the same as we have in the workplace. Whatever the arrangements we make to keep ourselves separated, there'll be disturbances and this doesn't make the person go down with his performance. People who work for8 hours now work more than that, because it had been an easy task for the higher authorities to seek support with the employees whenever required. Beyond the working hours they shouldn't be disturbed.

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August 13, 2023, 11:34:37 PM
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These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

I do not share the same opinions of these researchers. Employees do not become less productive just cause they work from home. Admittedly, there would be some few people who might actually become less productive due to working from home as well with other reasons but I think majority of people who work from home tend to get the job done.
There are employees who work much better and are more productive with little to no supervision. Without your supervisor being physically present, breathing down your neck, watching your every move and making sure things are done by the book, an employee could learn to be innovative and more effective than others physically going into the office.

I think it mostly depends on the employee and the approach to work. An unproductive employee would remain unproductive working from either the home or the office.

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I could not attest to it because I myself is also a work from home worker and yet, I still manage to finish my task on its due date, and on its best outcome. However, probably with workers who have a lot of distractions at home, like they need to take care of their kids and attend to their needs, send them to school, do the household chores, most likely the time to get the job done will be affected as well as its outcome and productivity. If the same scenario will continue, this will leave a negative impact on the company causing its productivity rate to suddenly fall.
As said the work from home atmosphere won't be the same as we have in the workplace. Whatever the arrangements we make to keep ourselves separated, there'll be disturbances and this doesn't make the person go down with his performance. People who work for8 hours now work more than that, because it had been an easy task for the higher authorities to seek support with the employees whenever required. Beyond the working hours they shouldn't be disturbed.
I think it all depends on how admins are managing the employees who work from home. If there is pressure for productivity over them, they will put more effort and meet the requirements of their employers, otherwise they know they are going to lose the spot and the opportunity of working. But when admins don't follow employees closely, they will decrease performance, without any doubts.

Actually, the same can happen at physical workplaces. The point is that it's easier to manage employees at the office than managing them from distance, although it's not impossible, though.

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August 14, 2023, 07:30:45 AM
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I beg to disagree with this publication, it's their view but it doesn't matter if you are working in the office or at home, all that matters is to get the job done and be gainfully employed as a citizen of a country. In that way, you will be able to live the good life you desire and will also be able to transact financially among other people in the country which is what encourages the economy.
No, no, that statistics is actually true and I'll explain why it is true. When you are at home, you are more relax than in your office. At home, we all have habits of drinking beer, watching TV, doing some random staff, home is a very different area where we were always relaxed since our birth. Also, if you are not alone at home, it's very hard to keep your attention on work because parents or siblings will sometimes call you and or attach you some duties. That's why a lot of people that I can confirm from my personal experience, buy a membership of special co-working office spaces to feel the atmosphere of the working environment, be more focused on their work and less destructed by others. Definitely, it doesn't apply to everyone but it's true for majority of people.

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August 14, 2023, 08:55:28 AM
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I beg to disagree with this publication, it's their view but it doesn't matter if you are working in the office or at home, all that matters is to get the job done and be gainfully employed as a citizen of a country. In that way, you will be able to live the good life you desire and will also be able to transact financially among other people in the country which is what encourages the economy.
No, no, that statistics is actually true and I'll explain why it is true. When you are at home, you are more relax than in your office. At home, we all have habits of drinking beer, watching TV, doing some random staff, home is a very different area where we were always relaxed since our birth. Also, if you are not alone at home, it's very hard to keep your attention on work because parents or siblings will sometimes call you and or attach you some duties. That's why a lot of people that I can confirm from my personal experience, buy a membership of special co-working office spaces to feel the atmosphere of the working environment, be more focused on their work and less destructed by others. Definitely, it doesn't apply to everyone but it's true for majority of people.
Though you have a point because of the distractions, and for sure you've experienced it, I've been working remotely for a couple of years right now, and I've met up and talked to tons of people that are working remotely, and even I've joined a group, but all of them say that they don't get distracted when it comes to working remotely, meaning they develop a focus so that even if those distractions are there, they still continue to work, and right now they will say they are not distracted to work, and also they have their own work space where they are working. From my personal experience, as I've worked in an office before, I am less productive in an office than here in my remote job because, by the end of the day, you'll need to report what you've done on a day, unlike in an office where there were no meetings; you've just casually gone out, and even if you haven't done some things, it doesn't matter. But again, that is what I've noticed.
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August 14, 2023, 10:06:01 AM
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I beg to disagree with this publication, it's their view but it doesn't matter if you are working in the office or at home, all that matters is to get the job done and be gainfully employed as a citizen of a country. In that way, you will be able to live the good life you desire and will also be able to transact financially among other people in the country which is what encourages the economy.
No, no, that statistics is actually true and I'll explain why it is true. When you are at home, you are more relax than in your office. At home, we all have habits of drinking beer, watching TV, doing some random staff, home is a very different area where we were always relaxed since our birth. Also, if you are not alone at home, it's very hard to keep your attention on work because parents or siblings will sometimes call you and or attach you some duties. That's why a lot of people that I can confirm from my personal experience, buy a membership of special co-working office spaces to feel the atmosphere of the working environment, be more focused on their work and less destructed by others. Definitely, it doesn't apply to everyone but it's true for majority of people.
Though you have a point because of the distractions, and for sure you've experienced it, I've been working remotely for a couple of years right now, and I've met up and talked to tons of people that are working remotely, and even I've joined a group, but all of them say that they don't get distracted when it comes to working remotely, meaning they develop a focus so that even if those distractions are there, they still continue to work, and right now they will say they are not distracted to work, and also they have their own work space where they are working. From my personal experience, as I've worked in an office before, I am less productive in an office than here in my remote job because, by the end of the day, you'll need to report what you've done on a day, unlike in an office where there were no meetings; you've just casually gone out, and even if you haven't done some things, it doesn't matter. But again, that is what I've noticed.
Thank you for this, when I first responded, I wasn't thinking about myself alone but also those who I know working from home. Working from home is beyond what many think, and what @Synchronice explained is right, only that it's applicable to a few, especially women that are either housewives or nursing mothers, even though many of them still have their strict moments. The people I know who work online are real hustlers, thinkers and creators, it's serious work when the time comes to work and nothing will distract them, not even friends or family. It's about getting the job done whether you are working for yourself or working for a company, after all, your success on the job would only be measured by your seriousness. Unless you are either lazy or unserious, you have to get it done even at home.

I've tasted the two sides as I've worked with a bank and the government of my country, and I could even say that more talking and engagement in unnecessary things happened then than when working from home. The only difference is that I earn more working at home (higher productivity) than working at my former jobs which was one of the reasons I quit instead of them controlling my time and still paying me less.

And in detail, it started with online trading, then graduated to trading and marketing. I still realized that I had more hours because I usually close between 5-6 PM daily. So I decided to start writing books in my spare time. I'm now planning to add an offline business in which I will employ people but will only be managing and supervising it in addition to all that. That is what I call "productivity."

You see, it depends on you and how focused you are. Personally, I've not seen a lazy online worker so far they get the job done, and for me, it makes me earn more, control my time, and make me think. Even now, I have a lot of projects written down to execute as I get more financial power.

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August 14, 2023, 05:24:12 PM
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I could not attest to it because I myself is also a work from home worker and yet, I still manage to finish my task on its due date, and on its best outcome. However, probably with workers who have a lot of distractions at home, like they need to take care of their kids and attend to their needs, send them to school, do the household chores, most likely the time to get the job done will be affected as well as its outcome and productivity.
I agree that these two jobs are separated and not equated to all existing forms of work. Some work can be done at home without having to have an office, such as a designer or other freelance work, distractions at work such as taking care of children can be adjusted and maybe you can see the right time to work. Except for women who do have more homework compared to men, but when we are able to manage time, I think working at home can also be productive and can be completed on time.

If the same scenario will continue, this will leave a negative impact on the company causing its productivity rate to suddenly fall.
It's best to get to know the job first, whether working at home can increase work productivity or not. If it affects you, then you have to find a way to solve it. There was a lot of work done at home when Covid-19 happened and it didn't interfere with the productivity of workers to complete their tasks and that has happened a lot in my country, but it depends on what type of work we do.

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August 14, 2023, 07:19:24 PM
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No I think this is the opposite, the corporate environment can create many distractions and interruptions, from commuting to time spent on social media. When you come to work, you may feel more tired and easily get lost in leisure activities instead of work.
You're ridiculous, how is it possible that in a work environment with clear and formal rules you're allowed to do things outside of duty? Unless you're a typical worker who likes to break rules that are not implemented too strictly.
To be fair, if you have a busy home, like a wife and a few kids, and you do not explain them well enough that you need to work and they do not respect your working space, then it's true that you are going to be able to be a lot more productive at work. But if you are single, or married with no kids, or married with kids but they all respect your working space, those are all things that can make you even more productive.

As someone who has worked at home for god knows how long, I can tell you that it's definitely better to work at home. I am a lot more productive at home because nobody bothers me here, and I am in my own room and working for hours and hours a day every single day and that makes it a lot better without a doubt.
I'm working from home as well and I can definitely vouch for that. I mean, it totally depends on what kind of a nature you have, if you love your work, and you like doing it in the best way you can, you will be way more productive working from home having your own working space without any disturbance or anything, it doesn't get better at all. But, if you are someone who basically doesn't like the job but is compelled to do it since you have no other options, you will most likely be less productive when you are working since you won't focus much on the work.

When you are in the office, whether you like your work or not, you will have to do it and do it exactly how the management wants you to, and if you don't, they are watching you all the time, but when you are working from home, you will be free from that so you might get distracted pretty easily.

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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

I actually see it all the time, it can be hard to focus at home with so many distractions or a person can even feel guilty because they are unable to manage their time, so it ends up overspilling into all sorts of crazy unproductive hours. I don't want to see someone working from 8am to 8pm with a whole bunch of gaps in between if I'm their manager, because that must end up crushing them slowly and very few people can work to these sort of boundaries. There is a small group of people that seem capable of adapting to a work at home environment and I guess with a nice enough home it can work out for the better. However it tends to be IT professionals rather than the wider population who maybe can adjust the easiest.

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August 14, 2023, 08:42:07 PM
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No I think this is the opposite, the corporate environment can create many distractions and interruptions, from commuting to time spent on social media. When you come to work, you may feel more tired and easily get lost in leisure activities instead of work.
You're ridiculous, how is it possible that in a work environment with clear and formal rules you're allowed to do things outside of duty? Unless you're a typical worker who likes to break rules that are not implemented too strictly.
To be fair, if you have a busy home, like a wife and a few kids, and you do not explain them well enough that you need to work and they do not respect your working space, then it's true that you are going to be able to be a lot more productive at work. But if you are single, or married with no kids, or married with kids but they all respect your working space, those are all things that can make you even more productive.

As someone who has worked at home for god knows how long, I can tell you that it's definitely better to work at home. I am a lot more productive at home because nobody bothers me here, and I am in my own room and working for hours and hours a day every single day and that makes it a lot better without a doubt.
I'm working from home as well and I can definitely vouch for that. I mean, it totally depends on what kind of a nature you have, if you love your work, and you like doing it in the best way you can, you will be way more productive working from home having your own working space without any disturbance or anything, it doesn't get better at all. But, if you are someone who basically doesn't like the job but is compelled to do it since you have no other options, you will most likely be less productive when you are working since you won't focus much on the work.

When you are in the office, whether you like your work or not, you will have to do it and do it exactly how the management wants you to, and if you don't, they are watching you all the time, but when you are working from home, you will be free from that so you might get distracted pretty easily.
Each person does have their own different passion and interest or preference and its true that if you do love on what you are doing then you would definitely be efficient. Somewhat to those people who do live or deal with

things that are out of their comfort zone or interest doesnt automatically means that they do shitty work which it is really a wrong mindset or believe to have because we know that there are conditions which leaves us no choice but to deal up with things and adapt accordingly just because we dont really have any other option but to deal with it and this is something that would really be just that a common approach to have.
We know that there are things in life which we cant really be able to attain or get involved with no matter how hard we do try. This is why people would really be ending up on adapting on whats front of them.

The most important thing on here is to live and adapt on whatever things that we are facing.Even if it would really be that totally against on our interest or passion but if it turns out that there would be no other
choice then people or human beings would naturally be accepting it and would be totally loving it as the time passes by which it would really be just that part of human nature.

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August 14, 2023, 09:00:21 PM
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Perhaps this is true for most of the wfh workers as they might be lacking the motivation and interest to work in the first place. Maybe because their compensation may not be well suited enough, or they have personal distractions at home that’s hard for them to focus on their job well and compromise the effectivity of their jobs. While this is not true for some, but perhaps this research is also telling the reality about how inefficient and ineffective some of them that might put the progress of their company at risk.
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August 14, 2023, 11:59:52 PM
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I believe the researcher that make the statement that working from home will make people less efficient and productive than people who from their office make this statement base on the impression and statement once made by Elon Musk when he cancel the idea of Twitter employees working from home this is the exact statement he makes to be the reason why he cancels it.

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I think the most important thing is that we can be productive or not be affected by the atmosphere or environment, if we work at home then we will think that we are in a relaxed area or environment, there is a bed, living room, cooking and so on, different from if we being in the office will make the work atmosphere more real than at home.


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August 15, 2023, 04:12:25 PM
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Perhaps this is true for most of the wfh workers as they might be lacking the motivation and interest to work in the first place. Maybe because their compensation may not be well suited enough, or they have personal distractions at home that’s hard for them to focus on their job well and compromise the effectivity of their jobs. While this is not true for some, but perhaps this research is also telling the reality about how inefficient and ineffective some of them that might put the progress of their company at risk.
As for me, sometimes it is not easy to stay motivated and focused when I am not in an office environment. Many distractions interfere with my productivity. However, working remotely has many benefits, such as reduced commute time and increased flexibility, which gives me more energy to maintain the quality of my work.

It definitely depends on the individual and their work style. Some people thrive in a home office setting, while others prefer an office's structure and social interaction. People must find what works best for them and their job responsibilities.
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A person can be more productive working at home if they are consistent in carrying out their work. They can even get other additional jobs if they have more free time.  On the other hand, someone who works in an office looks more monotonous because they are burdened by the targets set by the company and only do the same tasks every day.
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A person can be more productive working at home if they are consistent in carrying out their work. They can even get other additional jobs if they have more free time.  On the other hand, someone who works in an office looks more monotonous because they are burdened by the targets set by the company and only do the same tasks every day.
Whether you are having that job on your own home or on an office, you would really be still sharing up with that target set by the company and the tasks would really be just the same on day to day basis

on which there's no exemption to that but its true that having that job or work on the convenience on your own home doesnt really give out that kind of pressure unlike when you are inside of an office
and been seen by your own boss on which it do really give out that kind of feeling or emotion of being unease while you are working which i could say that this is really that something that could affect your efficiency at work. In overall i dont see that work from home people or workers are less efficient or productive compared to those who are going to office. Its impossible that they wont really be giving out such certain tasks for them do on on their own homes.

I do much prefer on having this way rather than on going into the office on day to day basis because we know that getting jammed in traffic do really sucks.
I do really like on working from home and saving up my ass on that condition.  Grin

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August 15, 2023, 11:59:35 PM
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I believe the researcher that make the statement that working from home will make people less efficient and productive than people who from their office make this statement base on the impression and statement once made by Elon Musk when he cancel the idea of Twitter employees working from home this is the exact statement he makes to be the reason why he cancels it.
Elon Musk have big thoughts and to execute those things isn't an easy thing. He saw the decline in the progress of the current X, and he made the claim over the employees. If he had analysed well about the reason behind the same, he could've understood that his activities were the reason behind and not the employees. In my view when people are provided with work from home they'll work in a much relaxed manner than having the pressure of reaching the office on time. Making arrangements for the lunch and all other additional tasks gets cut.

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A person can be more productive working at home if they are consistent in carrying out their work. They can even get other additional jobs if they have more free time.  On the other hand, someone who works in an office looks more monotonous because they are burdened by the targets set by the company and only do the same tasks every day.
Yeah right. But this all seems to depend on which vantage point we take to assess the decrease and increase in productivity itself. If the decrease and increase in productivity is for the benefit of the company, maybe working in an office is indeed getting better. But when it comes to productivity for employee or personal income, working at home seems to be able to make productivity for personal gain better. Because if an employee works at home then he can work while also working on the side which can make him have double income. i.e. main and additional income. Well this increases productivity for the employees themselves in matters of personal gain. But if you talk about increasing and decreasing the productivity of work by an employee for the benefit of the company, it is clear that there will be a slight decrease in this case. Because employees who are employed at home will definitely not only focus on one job. The employee will focus on personal gain and only work enough for the company and the rest of the time he will work on the side to make more money.

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I work from home and absolutely love it.  Here's the thing, if I do my job well, it doesn't matter if I take a nap during the middle of the day (and I absolutely do sometimes), or if I stop working around 12-1pm on Fridays (which I typically do), as long as I'm getting my job done and it a good manner, my boss doesn't care.  It's nice to work for a job that's like this, as I know some jobs mean there's always work to do when you're clocked in..so I could of course see people that work from home being less productive in a position like this. 

I also work on the weekends sometimes, as well late in to the afternoon..so there are some trade-offs.

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August 16, 2023, 07:28:34 AM
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Not all those who work in a company are more productive anyway, we are now in a world where what you have to offer is what will bring food to your table, either you are working from home or not, you ain't getting paid if you don't do your work right, isn't this the case?

Productivity is what we should be after and not what other people are saying about the work conditions irrespective of being a home or office location job, how effective can we deliver what is within our capacity and what is being expected of us, the capacity to how far we can deliver depends on our ability and personal interest, where we think we can perform best give the best quality delivery in our abilities, what you give in is what you receive back as reward to your labour in form of wages, location should not be a barrier.
Well depending on the work condition lies where your productivity go. Surely you're not into some toxic work conditions wherein you're almost getting micromanaged by some higher ups about what you're doing.

People want to be productive but they tend to just go with it in their work condition without even trying to change how their workplace goes. This is why I really love to WFH although I do not have anything against RTO.
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I work from home and absolutely love it.  Here's the thing, if I do my job well, it doesn't matter if I take a nap during the middle of the day (and I absolutely do sometimes), or if I stop working around 12-1pm on Fridays (which I typically do), as long as I'm getting my job done and it a good manner, my boss doesn't care.  It's nice to work for a job that's like this, as I know some jobs mean there's always work to do when you're clocked in..so I could of course see people that work from home being less productive in a position like this. 

I also work on the weekends sometimes, as well late in to the afternoon..so there are some trade-offs.
It is true that doing work at home will be more productive if we do according to what the boss imposes on his employees, but for bosses who allow their employees to work at home, of course they already know the productivity of their employees at work so there is no doubt for the leadership if their employees do work wherever they like. Doing weekend work I think is a good thing to get extra income for us but this is not done every weekend, of course it will be very boring if done every weekend.
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Not all those who work in a company are more productive anyway, we are now in a world where what you have to offer is what will bring food to your table, either you are working from home or not, you ain't getting paid if you don't do your work right, isn't this the case?

Productivity is what we should be after and not what other people are saying about the work conditions irrespective of being a home or office location job, how effective can we deliver what is within our capacity and what is being expected of us, the capacity to how far we can deliver depends on our ability and personal interest, where we think we can perform best give the best quality delivery in our abilities, what you give in is what you receive back as reward to your labour in form of wages, location should not be a barrier.
Well depending on the work condition lies where your productivity go. Surely you're not into some toxic work conditions wherein you're almost getting micromanaged by some higher ups about what you're doing.

People want to be productive but they tend to just go with it in their work condition without even trying to change how their workplace goes. This is why I really love to WFH although I do not have anything against RTO.
You have a point here. Various aspects affect the productivity of every individual. I sure know some people who are not able to work with even just a tiny bit of mess on their work table, but I also know people who can be really product despite the chaos ensuing in their surroundings. We all work differently under different circumstances. What is important is that we know how to manage ourselves and ensure that we are comfortable working no matter what our work setting is. If you are WFH, find a way to make the best of it. If you are on-site then make adjustments and adapt. Productivity can be achieved if you make changes and adapt to your needs.
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A study published by the American private nonprofit research organization the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the productivity of workers randomly assigned to work from home was 18% lower than that of those in the office.
https://africa.businessinsider.com/careers/new-research-finds-that-fully-remote-workers-are-less-productive-than-their-in-office/4vxn4sy
These researchers found that if you work from home you will be less efficient and productive than people who from their office. Can we say the same about freelance workers?  Do you think that if workers are given the chance to "own" a task like freelancers they'll be more productive because it is just like being self-employed where you treat it as your business and not with the mindset of another man's business?

Not as always will you fulfill your work at the full 8 hours, sometimes you can easily do with the workload at least a 2-4 hours so people now will do nothing in the office or else they will seek more task just to prevent get nothing to do in their work station and will get noticed by their manager and supervisors, lets accept the fact that this always happens in work. Also those people in the work-from-home set up doesn't need to deal too much time for their transportation, breakfast, etc. which consumes time before the work time actually starts so sure they will less productive. But if you are kind of boss doesn't want to have an employee get idle I guess gives all the possible task into them and have a weekly report.

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A person can be more productive working at home if they are consistent in carrying out their work. They can even get other additional jobs if they have more free time.  On the other hand, someone who works in an office looks more monotonous because they are burdened by the targets set by the company and only do the same tasks every day.
Yeah right. But this all seems to depend on which vantage point we take to assess the decrease and increase in productivity itself. If the decrease and increase in productivity is for the benefit of the company, maybe working in an office is indeed getting better. But when it comes to productivity for employee or personal income, working at home seems to be able to make productivity for personal gain better. Because if an employee works at home then he can work while also working on the side which can make him have double income. i.e. main and additional income. Well this increases productivity for the employees themselves in matters of personal gain. But if you talk about increasing and decreasing the productivity of work by an employee for the benefit of the company, it is clear that there will be a slight decrease in this case. Because employees who are employed at home will definitely not only focus on one job. The employee will focus on personal gain and only work enough for the company and the rest of the time he will work on the side to make more money.
The mere suggestion that an employee working from home would undoubtedly focus on personal side jobs at the expense of the main job is not just naive but shows a lack of understanding of human behavior. Just as environments change, so do adaptability and motivations. Do not assume that a physical office is the pantheon of productivity! It's a facade; a relic of a bygone era

Remote work gives employees the flexibility they desire, and this flexibility can very well lead to a surge in productivity if managed effectively. Instead of spewing baseless conjectures, perhaps it's time to evolve and understand the changing dynamics of work and productivity. Your archaic views can't hold water in the modern world

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August 16, 2023, 02:36:34 PM
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Not all those who work in a company are more productive anyway, we are now in a world where what you have to offer is what will bring food to your table, either you are working from home or not, you ain't getting paid if you don't do your work right, isn't this the case?

Productivity is what we should be after and not what other people are saying about the work conditions irrespective of being a home or office location job, how effective can we deliver what is within our capacity and what is being expected of us, the capacity to how far we can deliver depends on our ability and personal interest, where we think we can perform best give the best quality delivery in our abilities, what you give in is what you receive back as reward to your labour in form of wages, location should not be a barrier.
Well depending on the work condition lies where your productivity go. Surely you're not into some toxic work conditions wherein you're almost getting micromanaged by some higher ups about what you're doing.

People want to be productive but they tend to just go with it in their work condition without even trying to change how their workplace goes. This is why I really love to WFH although I do not have anything against RTO.
You have a point here. Various aspects affect the productivity of every individual. I sure know some people who are not able to work with even just a tiny bit of mess on their work table, but I also know people who can be really product despite the chaos ensuing in their surroundings. We all work differently under different circumstances. What is important is that we know how to manage ourselves and ensure that we are comfortable working no matter what our work setting is. If you are WFH, find a way to make the best of it. If you are on-site then make adjustments and adapt. Productivity can be achieved if you make changes and adapt to your needs.

Its indeed depends on the environment and those people surrounds you that can helps you to become productive. I believe that your environment can affect your performance even as a student. If your living alone then it would be a great situation to WFH. In my case, here in my neighborhood is literally noisy since I live in a city area which is just middle class so you would expect this people who just loiter everyday. Plus I have many dogs which is too alert to any noises, if they just heard someone talking they would just bark at them which I need them to calm.

I can't blame them if that's the way of their living but if its affect my performance at work I would just rather to work at site. There you would be airconditioned all day, free snacks and coffees. There will be always a toxic co-workers and I believe it would be rare to have none, I just don't give a sht about them at all I just like the benefits at site. And I think when I'm at home it would be just I'm at my comfort zone so I think it would be better to experience work on-site so you could have some connections too from great people.

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August 16, 2023, 02:42:37 PM
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Study mentioned was done in Chennai, I'd say Indian homes are least conducive for work. Here is similar study [1] done in Netherlands, results are opposite. Point being, such survey results are only good for that particular part where they are done, and should not be used to judge broadly.



[1] https://www.pagepersonnel.nl/en/advice/market-updates/remote-working-can-lead-higher-productivity-and-motivation


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August 16, 2023, 11:30:40 PM
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I believe the researcher that make the statement that working from home will make people less efficient and productive than people who from their office make this statement base on the impression and statement once made by Elon Musk when he cancel the idea of Twitter employees working from home this is the exact statement he makes to be the reason why he cancels it.
Elon Musk have big thoughts and to execute those things isn't an easy thing. He saw the decline in the progress of the current X, and he made the claim over the employees. If he had analysed well about the reason behind the same, he could've understood that his activities were the reason behind and not the employees. In my view when people are provided with work from home they'll work in a much relaxed manner than having the pressure of reaching the office on time. Making arrangements for the lunch and all other additional tasks gets cut.
What I hate about Elon Musk's activities on Twitter now known as X is how he put some limits to the tweet and participation of users who are not premium and later complain about the development team working from home not helping the situation.
What I also believe is that people working in a relaxed environment are more productive than people working from a pressured environment.

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I believe the researcher that make the statement that working from home will make people less efficient and productive than people who from their office make this statement base on the impression and statement once made by Elon Musk when he cancel the idea of Twitter employees working from home this is the exact statement he makes to be the reason why he cancels it.
Elon Musk have big thoughts and to execute those things isn't an easy thing. He saw the decline in the progress of the current X, and he made the claim over the employees. If he had analysed well about the reason behind the same, he could've understood that his activities were the reason behind and not the employees. In my view when people are provided with work from home they'll work in a much relaxed manner than having the pressure of reaching the office on time. Making arrangements for the lunch and all other additional tasks gets cut.
What I hate about Elon Musk's activities on Twitter now known as X is how he put some limits to the tweet and participation of users who are not premium and later complain about the development team working from home not helping the situation.
What I also believe is that people working in a relaxed environment are more productive than people working from a pressured environment.
Talking about that limitation just because of having that non premium then this is what the standard things that we should have nowadays or becoming that a part on where these companies would

be normally be having those premium account charges or needing to pay up something on which this is really just that a normal approach.Yes, it does affect out in overall experience but if you dont
like such condition then you would be needing to pay something but if not then you would be needing to deal with that shit condition. About productiveness then it would really be entirely
be depending on a certain individual because whether you are working remotely or on an office if someone doesnt really like to do their job then there's nothing we can do.

Being efficient or not doesnt really depend on the workplace but rather it would really be depending on a certain individual whether they would really be doing their job or not.

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Let me tell you the reason why this research found that out, because it's probably backed by companies that have offices and right now with the trend of WFH being at an all time high, their paying for these offices that has no people in it which in the companies' perspective, the offices will be a waste of their money thus losing their leases which upsets the landlords as the value of the land loses because no one is using it. They hate that the employees can do their work at home and at the same time they are losing money especially the landlords.



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Study mentioned was done in Chennai, I'd say Indian homes are least conducive for work. Here is similar study [1] done in Netherlands, results are opposite. Point being, such survey results are only good for that particular part where they are done, and should not be used to judge broadly.



[1] https://www.pagepersonnel.nl/en/advice/market-updates/remote-working-can-lead-higher-productivity-and-motivation


Thank you for the source. This is what I mean by stating that it depends on various factors. This example shows how economic status and the environment of the place affect productivity whether it be at home or on-site. The study that was mentioned's scope is far too closed off to conclude that everyone have the same experience. Different country, different financial capacity, different environment, and different attitude of individuals needs to be considered in this type of research as well as the study's scope before a conclusion is made.
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August 17, 2023, 05:20:26 AM
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Don't know how much accurate this "research" is, but it depends from person to person. There are people that wouldn't get work done or are "lazy" and would require constant supervision. If they aren't pushed, they won't be working efficiently. Then there are people that are more productive when they work from home, since they don't have to "deal" with people and can work at their own pace without worrying about anything. Then there are jobs that will consider you inefficient and less productive if you aren't delivering more than you should have....

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August 17, 2023, 06:17:05 AM
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I think it is different for everyone... because some disciplined people will be more productive and the lazy types will be less productive. It also depends on the environment that they work in.... say for instance that they have a lot of distractions (like kids) ...then those people will be less productive.

I have friends that had to set aside a study just for work and they had to force themselves not to go back to work, because it was in such close proximity. (  (They have to lock the door as if they left the office to keep them from going back and working for hours)

A lot of them will take a power nap during the day and then they will be refreshed and willing to work for extra hours during the day.  Wink

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August 17, 2023, 07:50:13 PM
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I work from home and absolutely love it.  Here's the thing, if I do my job well, it doesn't matter if I take a nap during the middle of the day (and I absolutely do sometimes), or if I stop working around 12-1pm on Fridays (which I typically do), as long as I'm getting my job done and it a good manner, my boss doesn't care.  It's nice to work for a job that's like this, as I know some jobs mean there's always work to do when you're clocked in..so I could of course see people that work from home being less productive in a position like this.  

I also work on the weekends sometimes, as well late in to the afternoon..so there are some trade-offs.
All that matters with working from home is the result. Meeting the day's target. Once the individual is consistent in hitting it and it is not affecting the company's revenue then he is good. What I think is that some of these companies carry their toxic work habits and environment to their virtual work environment. Micromanaging, the constant demand for working long hours even on the weekends when working from home, setting unrealistic expectations from their staff, excessive criticism and many other. No staff can deliver on their work while working from home under these conditions. That isn't possible at all.

That is why I think that the research is not really complete...the researchers need to tell us about the culture in the workplace of the workers who were found to work from home but were less productive. We need to know.

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August 17, 2023, 09:22:47 PM
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I work from home and absolutely love it.  Here's the thing, if I do my job well, it doesn't matter if I take a nap during the middle of the day (and I absolutely do sometimes), or if I stop working around 12-1pm on Fridays (which I typically do), as long as I'm getting my job done and it a good manner, my boss doesn't care.  It's nice to work for a job that's like this, as I know some jobs mean there's always work to do when you're clocked in..so I could of course see people that work from home being less productive in a position like this.  

I also work on the weekends sometimes, as well late in to the afternoon..so there are some trade-offs.
All that matters with working from home is the result. Meeting the day's target. Once the individual is consistent in hitting it and it is not affecting the company's revenue then he is good. What I think is that some of these companies carry their toxic work habits and environment to their virtual work environment. Micromanaging, the constant demand for working long hours even on the weekends when working from home, setting unrealistic expectations from their staff, excessive criticism and many other. No staff can deliver on their work while working from home under these conditions. That isn't possible at all.

That is why I think that the research is not really complete...the researchers need to tell us about the culture in the workplace of the workers who were found to work from home but were less productive. We need to know.
Meeting the days target which would really be the most important, doesnt matter if you have finished it on the entire whole day or just on a few hours on the said particular day on which it is really just the same.It would

really just that matter on a certain worker or individual on how he would be able to accomplish those works that he had been assigned.What matter the most is that you do really finish it out and do things on what you are paid for. About efficiency then i would rather believe that those people who do work on the convenience of their own home would really be that productive since they arent really get stressed on day to day commute or traffic or not really that needing to have in transit on everyday plus they could really be able to see and watch their family while they do work.

Now that we are living on an era on which it is really that almost digital then it wont really be that shocking that we are really that gradually that switching into remote works but there are still jobs that
would really be requiring on going to office and as for us workers then we would really be needing to adapt and wont be choosing which one is available since having a work or job do matter the most.

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August 26, 2023, 01:58:53 AM
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I think work atmosphere is important, many people can be productive when the work environment is supportive, and conversely if we work from home then people think that home is a relaxed place so it won't be uplifting, in my opinion the best thing is if we want to increase high productivity is working in an office. And the fact until now is that most of the world's top companies always use the office to work and do not allow employees to sleep in the office.


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