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August 31, 2023, 11:47:02 PM
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If I had to put them in order I would say my first choice is business first, cryptocurrency second, and real estate third. because I see real estate as more than just an investment, real estate is just a place to park money to protect and grow. Business is where you make money, so I want business to be the first choice so that the next two points can run smoothly.
You make more money depending on what you're focusing with. It's true that owning a business is where you make money, active money. Whilst for real estate, it is an asset that generates you passive income from renting your property and at the same time the appreciation of its value.

But if you have a good idea and can manage your business, you can just go here and there and manage both of them since owning real estate doesn't really need a lot of time unless you're going to have a full renovation. Then, after that you only need to check your tenants after.

Renting can also be considered as the business that you can have and that's what I like with real estate.

I don't want to make cyrptocurrency my first choice because the market is very unstable and we can't know whether the market will be bearish or bullish. Sometimes we can forget about predictions and start making good profits because future valuation is just speculation and guesswork. When the report is bullish, take some to sell, when the news becomes bearish, start buying. “Keep it simple, and keep it simple” that correction is the best thing to make it an opportunity.
True, it is volatile and if you're going to make trading as your first priority. You're not even forced to do that and can check your trades a few times when you have to.



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September 01, 2023, 05:12:26 AM
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If I have a lot of extra money or am rich, I will use it all, of course. That's why I'm not rich or have a lot of money. So I would rather start by building a business first. Because its construction does not require a large capital investment. We can start a business even if our capital is small, as long as we can manage it properly and have patience, even if the income is small in the beginning.

Although right now I'm in the cryptocurrency business, the only way I can get income here via trading is if I get a small amount of initial capital to start a business. Actually, I started thinking that I just needed time management and perseverance; although there are difficulties, I can face them and overcome them.



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September 01, 2023, 06:30:24 AM
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Both kinds investment are profitable and one day later when having much money I will spent investment between cryptocurrency and real estate, I don't understand well with business because not have basic how to build good business. Seems real estate and cryptocurrency are most promising investment, we can't stand in one investment kinds between real estate, cryptocurrency or business, always have moment with one of third business get collapse in the future but have planning with several kinds investment get balanced when one business or investment get drop.

I am not priority have to invest in cryptocurrency based on more experience and know how cryptocurrency risk, but having other kinds investment between real estate or having business can make us easily money management controlling when one investment kinds have collaps.

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September 01, 2023, 07:17:22 AM
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If I have a lot of extra money or am rich, I will use it all, of course. That's why I'm not rich or have a lot of money. So I would rather start by building a business first. Because its construction does not require a large capital investment. We can start a business even if our capital is small, as long as we can manage it properly and have patience, even if the income is small in the beginning.

Although right now I'm in the cryptocurrency business, the only way I can get income here via trading is if I get a small amount of initial capital to start a business. Actually, I started thinking that I just needed time management and perseverance; although there are difficulties, I can face them and overcome them.
Depending on what kind of business you are talking about, if you mean some kind of small trade, perhaps resale of a product that is not yours, then this will not require large investments, but it will not bring much profit, and to start a significant business you will most likely need a good amount and it won't be as easy as it seems.

Initially, you need to proceed from the funds you have, if you have a small capital, then you will most likely look for riskier investments to increase it. And already having a more solid capital, you will try to open a big business that will bring good money.
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September 01, 2023, 07:53:39 AM
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I will choose cryptocurrency to invest half of the million of dollars, because I have the knowledge of cryptocurrency investment and it will be easy for me to achieve what I want in the future when the price increase higher. This is where some people use to miss it in life, because they will not take their time to carry out their personal research about a particular project and have a knowledge about that project before investing their capital which is the major challenge some people are facing in the community today. Estate investment and business is not something you can start today and started making a huge amount of money but you can start cryptocurrency investment today and the price increase higher for you to make a huge amount of money from your investment.

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September 01, 2023, 02:15:15 PM
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If I have a lot of extra money or am rich, I will use it all, of course. That's why I'm not rich or have a lot of money. So I would rather start by building a business first. Because its construction does not require a large capital investment. We can start a business even if our capital is small, as long as we can manage it properly and have patience, even if the income is small in the beginning.
The good thing is that you are still willing to struggle with minimal capital for a business even with a small income. Because not everyone can afford to struggle with small capital to build a business, so you are a person who is wise enough to manage money if you are able to build a business with small capital. Nowadays, businesses are numerous and even very diverse, so the allocation of capital is also very different because not all businesses can be run with small capital.

However, I quite salute if you can run a business with small capital even though you don't mention what business it is. And that is clearly different from rich people who have a lot of money to use as capital for any business even though these rich people don't have a lot of experience managing a business. But over time this will clearly be easier to overcome because the person can learn ways to manage a business that he built with a lot of capital.

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Although right now I'm in the cryptocurrency business, the only way I can get income here via trading is if I get a small amount of initial capital to start a business. Actually, I started thinking that I just needed time management and perseverance; although there are difficulties, I can face them and overcome them.
It would be extraordinary if you were able to manage time and perseverance in a more balanced manner when running a business. Because the success that can be obtained through the business field comes more from time discipline and perseverance in working so that you can be better prepared when you have to face a difficulty in your business journey. Because there are really not many people who are able to struggle with small capital, especially if that capital is brought into a business that basically needs to develop and be successful.

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September 01, 2023, 11:52:21 PM
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You know one of the major reason investors are not shifting their savings from commercial real estate to Bitcoin is because of a lack of understanding about Bitcoin. While it is true and I agree to it that real estate has become a popular store of value due to the declining purchasing power of the dollar, however, not many people can afford to invest in real estate. The entry is too high there by preventing young people from owning homes and starting families. I choose bitcoin because I consider it as it has been described, a form of digital real estate with unique advantages, including scarcity, ownership transparency, and resistance to government manipulation.

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September 02, 2023, 10:42:36 AM
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~ But if you want to generate income directly, the solution is to invest in the property sector directly. For example buying land or fruit plantations. Which will continue to produce fruit that is harvested and sold each season. The price of land increases every year and every season we can earn money from harvesting fruit.

The point is a lot can be done with that kind of money. Maybe only about 5-10 percent that I will invest in crypto.

But are you sure that the price of every land increases every year? I still think investing in lands is a bit like gambling: you can win but you can lose also. You are saying that you'd invest in crypto 5-10 percent, but how much you'd invest in land? 90-95%? That could be a mistake. If you have little to no experience in this field, it's very likely that you'll be screwed and will buy a land that will depreciate in the future.

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~ But if you want to generate income directly, the solution is to invest in the property sector directly. For example buying land or fruit plantations. Which will continue to produce fruit that is harvested and sold each season. The price of land increases every year and every season we can earn money from harvesting fruit.

The point is a lot can be done with that kind of money. Maybe only about 5-10 percent that I will invest in crypto.

But are you sure that the price of every land increases every year? I still think investing in lands is a bit like gambling: you can win but you can lose also. You are saying that you'd invest in crypto 5-10 percent, but how much you'd invest in land? 90-95%? That could be a mistake. If you have little to no experience in this field, it's very likely that you'll be screwed and will buy a land that will depreciate in the future.

Not only that, there is also a big risk there, I have in that kind of business, and there are years that because of nature, like floods, so you can't really harvested 100%. And then there is the price, that sometimes there are cartel that can manipulated the price of let's say a grain and so you the profits might not be that huge.

And there are when markets are saturated, of course the price will be done as there are a lot of supplies. So it's not that easy to just buy lets say a hectare or whatever, and just just plant fruits or anything that you will harvest after 5-6 months.

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September 03, 2023, 12:45:09 PM
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If I own half a million dollars, or maybe I was given that sum and given four investment options to choose from..
That is ..
1. Real estate
2. Cryptocurrencies
3. Start a business
4. Invest in all of the above ..

I will choose option four which is to invest in all of the above, I will invest 45% of the half a million dollars in real estate, then invest 30% of the money in cryptocurrencies, then I will use the remaining 25% to start a good and lucrative business, profit made from the business will cater for my day-to-day expenditures, while I allow my investment in cryptocurrencies and real estate to grow, I think this is a good plan ..

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September 03, 2023, 06:32:34 PM
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If I own half a million dollars, or maybe I was given that sum and given four investment options to choose from..
That is ..
1. Real estate
2. Cryptocurrencies
3. Start a business
4. Invest in all of the above ..

I will choose option four which is to invest in all of the above, I will invest 45% of the half a million dollars in real estate, then invest 30% of the money in cryptocurrencies, then I will use the remaining 25% to start a good and lucrative business, profit made from the business will cater for my day-to-day expenditures, while I allow my investment in cryptocurrencies and real estate to grow, I think this is a good plan ..

Choosing the fourth option is the perfect decision one can make and do to have better opportunities ahead than been left with no choice when things to bazzerck in what we do, all the above listed options are good business alternatives for an adequate and profitable investment, though there's no business or investment that does not have its own risk attached but we can see that these are investment we made with high winning opportunities than loosing, which means they are profitable assets and not liabilities.

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Since you didn't give any rules for how many to choose, I'll choose all three

1. I'm going to make a business. This will make my finances good and become a source of income for daily life
2. I will buy 1 real estate. Maybe I'll rent it. The money I earn from renting real estate is for the backup of my business
3. The rest I will use to buy bitcoins. With good business assets and real estate, I will hold bitcoin until I am old. I think I'll pass this on to my kids, and you know the future price of bitcoin is going to be crazy. I hope so

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September 05, 2023, 02:46:45 PM
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Since you didn't give any rules for how many to choose, I'll choose all three

1. I'm going to make a business. This will make my finances good and become a source of income for daily life
2. I will buy 1 real estate. Maybe I'll rent it. The money I earn from renting real estate is for the backup of my business
3. The rest I will use to buy bitcoins. With good business assets and real estate, I will hold bitcoin until I am old. I think I'll pass this on to my kids, and you know the future price of bitcoin is going to be crazy. I hope so
Starting a business – a classic move, albeit fraught with unpredictability. You say it's for your daily life finances? Remember, a business isn't just a faucet of cash. Market fluctuations, regulatory changes, and operational inefficiencies - have you factored these in?

Then, you bring up real estate. Renting out, you say? While it's a time-tested investment, are you considering maintenance costs, property taxes, and potential tenant issues?

Finally, the grand finale: Bitcoins.  It's not just a digital currency; it's a revolution. Holding it for your progeny, a noble thought, but remember the blockchain space is vast. Ever considered branching out to altcoins or diving into the DeFi ? While your optimism for Bitcoin's future price is admirable, pinning all hopes on its price trajectory seems like economic naivety.

Would you not reconsider your economic trilogy?

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September 05, 2023, 03:02:44 PM
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Would you not reconsider your economic trilogy?

No, there is nothing to consider because it is the best for me

Starting a business – a classic move, albeit fraught with unpredictability. You say it's for your daily life finances? Remember, a business isn't just a faucet of cash. Market fluctuations, regulatory changes, and operational inefficiencies - have you factored these in?

Don't be too complicated buddy, business is not always like a big complicated corporation. There are many small business sectors that are easy to manage. I will choose one business for my financial needs. Because that's the most logical

Then, you bring up real estate. Renting out, you say? While it's a time-tested investment, are you considering maintenance costs, property taxes, and potential tenant issues?

Yes, that's the best in my opinion. Would you let real estate go without renting it out? you will lose because even if it is not rented out, real estate still requires maintenance costs. The bonus of real estate investment is the growth in price, the longer we have it, the price will increase

Finally, the grand finale: Bitcoins.  It's not just a digital currency; it's a revolution. Holding it for your progeny, a noble thought, but remember the blockchain space is vast. Ever considered branching out to altcoins or diving into the DeFi ? While your optimism for Bitcoin's future price is admirable, pinning all hopes on its price trajectory seems like economic naivety.

No buddy, For the long term, bitcoin is the best option. You already know the answer  Wink

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If I have a lot of extra money or am rich, I will use it all, of course. That's why I'm not rich or have a lot of money. So I would rather start by building a business first. Because its construction does not require a large capital investment. We can start a business even if our capital is small, as long as we can manage it properly and have patience, even if the income is small in the beginning.

Although right now I'm in the cryptocurrency business, the only way I can get income here via trading is if I get a small amount of initial capital to start a business. Actually, I started thinking that I just needed time management and perseverance; although there are difficulties, I can face them and overcome them.
Of course, to be able to do all three, you need to work hard from now on. It doesn't matter if you start a business with minimal capital as long as you are consistent and good at controlling your finances, I am sure your business will progress and develop. Once your business is successful and generates profits, then you invest in Bitcoin for your future. Because as you know, without large capital you won't be able to do everything, so you have to do it slowly.

I also run a business that is already running, I started a business with small capital, I made a profit, I saved/generated profits, but it is undeniable that if there is more capital for business development, it may be faster to achieve dreams. because I turned the profits back into the business, I should be grateful that I was able to save little by little when I was quite new to investing in Real Estate and Bitcoin.

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September 05, 2023, 06:38:41 PM
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It appears that the sensible choices can be outlined as follows:

1. Bitcoin: For individuals from low-income to wealthy.
2. Business: For middle-class to wealthy individuals.
3. Real Estate: Primarily for the rich people.

Firstly, let's consider Bitcoin. Bitcoin can be placed at the top tier as it encompasses individuals across the economic spectrum. There is no minimum cost required to invest in Bitcoin, making it accessible to everyone, provided their country doesn't prohibit it.

Secondly, we have business ventures. There are various business models in the world, ranging from small-scale enterprises to international corporations. To start a business, a substantial amount of capital is typically required, making it inaccessible to those without financial resources.

Thirdly, real estate falls into the business category, but it demands even larger financial resources. Additionally, one must acquire marketing skills to succeed in the real estate business.
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Let's imagine that you have half a million US-Dollar/Euro/GBP and want to feel financially safe and build a better future.
1. Real estate - It's probably one of the safest investment option out there. Inflation rises, rent and apartment prices rise too, if inflation turns into deflation, your rent/apartment price still remains the same. With half a million, you can buy two or more good apartments in eastern Europe and live on your rent income.

2. Cryptocurrencies are very volatile but rewarding. If you have a discipline and don't let your emotions take control over your decisions, then you can probably grow your capital by 200-500% a year. At least I think so, I think that's possible if one spends most of his time on exchanges and if necessary, spends some nights. So, crypto is very volatile and rewarding but another problem here is that you are dependent on exchanges, what will you do if they don't let you withdraw? Another problem is that you have to take care of your coins because once they are gone, they are gone forever.

3. Business - It's like an income generated by Proof Of Work algorithm. Depends on the business and the person, one can achieve a huge financial success and influence or a total failure. But a big and successful business can outperform real estate and crypto investments. To my mind, proof of work is the only thing that can deal with absolutely any kind of financial crisis and disasters.

Which one would you choose from these and why?

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maybe I will choose crypto, especially I will buy bitcoin because I personally think it will make my money safe and grow even though for now crypto is still very volatile but I'm sure in 10 years or even 20 years later bitcoin will rise very drastically according to my personal research because a company as big as blackrock vanguard has been buying bitcoins from now on and I will store my bitcoins using trezor or safepal hardware wallet or what we can say self custody because as I learned it's been a long time it's true not your key not your coin

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Crypto is not bitcoin, so crypto vs real estate I'll always choose real estate. Hard assets > shitcoins.

Real estate vs bitcoin? Always bitcoin, unless it's a very well known location to buy property.

It's a hard choice because bitcoin is constant anywhere you go. Real estate is not because you can have properties in Luxembourg and Kosovo. Belarus, Crimea, or places like Chechnya, are worse than penny stocks. I'd rather gamble my money at a casino than invest there.

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Let's imagine that you have half a million US-Dollar/Euro/GBP and want to feel financially safe and build a better future.
1. Real estate - It's probably one of the safest investment option out there. Inflation rises, rent and apartment prices rise too, if inflation turns into deflation, your rent/apartment price still remains the same. With half a million, you can buy two or more good apartments in eastern Europe and live on your rent income.

2. Cryptocurrencies are very volatile but rewarding. If you have a discipline and don't let your emotions take control over your decisions, then you can probably grow your capital by 200-500% a year. At least I think so, I think that's possible if one spends most of his time on exchanges and if necessary, spends some nights. So, crypto is very volatile and rewarding but another problem here is that you are dependent on exchanges, what will you do if they don't let you withdraw? Another problem is that you have to take care of your coins because once they are gone, they are gone forever.

3. Business - It's like an income generated by Proof Of Work algorithm. Depends on the business and the person, one can achieve a huge financial success and influence or a total failure. But a big and successful business can outperform real estate and crypto investments. To my mind, proof of work is the only thing that can deal with absolutely any kind of financial crisis and disasters.

Which one would you choose from these and why?

P.S. Spam will not be tolerated, that's why I open self-moderated thread. You post spammy, meaningless post and I'll immediately remove it! Don't ever try to do that here!

maybe I will choose crypto, especially I will buy bitcoin because I personally think it will make my money safe and grow even though for now crypto is still very volatile but I'm sure in 10 years or even 20 years later bitcoin will rise very drastically according to my personal research because a company as big as blackrock vanguard has been buying bitcoins from now on and I will store my bitcoins using trezor or safepal hardware wallet or what we can say self custody because as I learned it's been a long time it's true not your key not your coin
There's no such thing as safe when it comes to investment and even in speaking with those traditional investments we do have.The beauty on investing on crypto is that you could really be able to invest with small amounts and just like on what most people been saying on here is that not all does have the money for them to invest on specially on real estate which is really that expensive but the possibilities on generating income on
sustaining or long term aspect then it is really that something that could give out that kind of probability which its not something that you could assure on crypto invest. The goodness is that you could really be able to make out some adjustments if ever you do see that it is worth to make some DCA or additionals on your investment from time to time, since its cheap then you could really be having that kind of chance.
Speaking about profits then it would be always that questionable because we know that this market is really that unpredictable.So as much as possible then it would really be that recommendable that you would really be investing and making business as long your capital would really be allowing you on doing so. Scatter out your investment and having that multiple  source of income which it would be always great.

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Crypto is not bitcoin, so crypto vs real estate I'll always choose real estate. Hard assets > shitcoins.

Real estate vs bitcoin? Always bitcoin, unless it's a very well known location to buy property.

It's a hard choice because bitcoin is constant anywhere you go. Real estate is not because you can have properties in Luxembourg and Kosovo. Belarus, Crimea, or places like Chechnya, are worse than penny stocks. I'd rather gamble my money at a casino than invest there.
Yes, it is true that choosing Real Estate must be based on many considerations. If it's a comfortable area like in a tropical country like my country, Indonesia. So choosing Real Estate is something that many people dream of owning. Because prices continue to rise from year to year. Because the security here is also pretty good. The scenery is also very beautiful. and people are also very friendly. But if it's in a country that is experiencing a moral crisis and war then I also won't choose Real Estate in a country like that. Especially when compared to Bitcoin then of course putting it in Bitcoin will be much better. Because even in some countries it turns out that their citizens save the value of their assets by converting to Bitcoin because of high inflation which makes their currency increasingly worthless.

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