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August 19, 2023, 08:16:50 PM
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What do you guys think really drive all the government and platform like this new Platform vanguard, BlackRock and some other companies which holds 88% of the market in US and they are almost in every market and now these platforms are coming into Crypto too. I know i started the topic from history lesson and end up at today's problems, but I have to link something to make my point clearer. Why Corona Virus made some people rich why there is a monopoly in the whole world civilization.

The studies are out there and I can provide them if you wish (I assume this is common knowledge) -- COVID was the biggest transfer transfer of wealth away from the middle class to the elites (not the rich, but the ultra elite). It was entirely government induced. When the government began printing away trillions in cash, the new money that circulated the economy was spent at large corporations which only made the elite wealthier. When these new dollars caused inflation, it disproportionately affected those who are lower income.

When businesses were forced to comply with government mandated restrictions, the larger corporations had the capital to comply, whereas smaller businesses shut down. Businesses with e-commerce platforms particularly excelled, whereas smaller businesses that relied on physical customers suffered.

Again, the elites were not closely involved in the decision making process when it came to COVID. It was mostly politicians who felt too afraid of making the right decision in fear of political ramifications.
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August 20, 2023, 06:41:11 AM
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What do you expect to happen? The world to stand still and not adapt to new technology? Should the government still mandate that everyone use a horse and cart instead of motor vehicles? ........
Exactly, why they stand still while people with unique IQ (unique means high) tend not to live a life of dumb one obviously. Everyone wants to make new innovations, startups, new technologies will keep coming until the end of life. That's what I am saying, because everyone has some desire some purpose.

The studies are out there and I can provide them if you wish (I assume this is common knowledge) -- COVID was the biggest transfer transfer of wealth away from the middle class to the elites (not the rich, but the ultra elite). It was entirely government induced.
I would love to read those studies and looking forward to your reply with data. And that's for sure that only the elites have filled their bags with money while only the middle ones suffered because I watched a video on IG, in which a long hair dude was explaining how the big organizations like the medical ones made billions of dollars.
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August 20, 2023, 10:07:05 AM
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governments act like businesses..

the problems stem from things like land acquisition. and then disputes, and also where suffering countries take out loans from other countries or do initially friendly trade deals that go bad.

 when countries borrow/owe money to each other. the creditor country becomes a stake holder in the debt country. thus then gains power over economic decisions to ensure the creditor country gets a return on investment. sometimes its just land ownership rights that give political power

we see it throughout history..
a war begins in rivalling middle eastern countries.. a western country enquires if they can help support a resource rich country defend its borders. that help is accepted.. but ofcourse the western country is not doing it for free..
suddenly deals are done to take over land, resources and control politics to repay the debt, friendly at first. but once power vaccuums are formed. then it turns nasty

we will see this occur with Ukraine in a decade.. ukraine was not donated military support. and in a decade ukraine will do trade deals and align its politics with western regimes to repay for all the support, friendly at first. but who knows what demands EU/nato will make on Ukraine later on


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August 20, 2023, 04:01:09 PM
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It's complex, but the short answer is money and power.

When you have money and power, you can control anyone else as you can do anything and the other people can't. Every human can live as long as they have food and a place to sleep, but due to current modern era where it make most of people trying to become rich, they started to become selfish and not care with the others.

Not everyone can win in the race to become rich, but everyone can survive.
I have to agree with this. People tend to adopt new decisions because they want to take an edge over power and money. Whether we accept it or not, with money and power, our aims or desires will be most likely become feasible. Money and power can give us the freedom to do everything with our desires to control our own lives and its happiness. And with the type of government we have at the present, if you don’t have the money that makes you powerful in the society, you will never live your life to its fullest.

When we look at the behavior of people after they have money and power, they never want to lose this advantage. Because these are the things that most people want to achieve in today's conditions. In fact, countries are doing everything to achieve this. The problem is not just living. It's about being able to do what you want with money and having power in the meantime, so I agree with your answer.

Money and power are the main factors that trigger people or governments in their decisions. Because when they have them they can do anything they want. Whether this is true or not is debatable, but this is the situation today.
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August 22, 2023, 02:03:59 PM
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A lot of history is often changed and adapted to government policies, I live in a country that has experienced many problems, and history is certainly different from before, and in my opinion this is to protect the interests of the government, they want to look better than before so they carry out various policies that new and looks different from the previous decicions.


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August 23, 2023, 02:46:20 PM
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Nations, corporations like Vanguard and BlackRock, they're not just chasing money; they're chasing power. Money is just a tool to get there. What you're not getting is that these entities see opportunity where others see crisis. Yes, they're in crypto now because crypto is the future of money, the future of control

You're talking about governments and companies holding 88% of the market. That's no coincidence. They want to centralize everything, make it easier for them to control. Take a look at the major tech companies; they're all hoarding data. Why? To manipulate thought, to direct behavior. It's not just about the Benjamins; it's about the very fabric of society

You touched on religious beliefs and norms. That's child's play, my friend. The real war is ideological. Look at how your information is being manipulated every day by the media, by social media, by the very platforms you rely on for information. Are you starting to get the picture?

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August 23, 2023, 09:03:59 PM
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A lot of history is often changed and adapted to government policies, I live in a country that has experienced many problems, and history is certainly different from before, and in my opinion this is to protect the interests of the government, they want to look better than before so they carry out various policies that new and looks different from the previous decicions.

In one country there was a rule: the new king overruled all the decisions of the old one, even if they were correct. This may be right, but it does not add confidence in the future. And every government thinks only about the interests of certain groups, hiding behind concern for the people. There must always be poor, otherwise who will feed the rich?
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August 23, 2023, 09:13:14 PM
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A lot of history is often changed and adapted to government policies, I live in a country that has experienced many problems, and history is certainly different from before, and in my opinion this is to protect the interests of the government, they want to look better than before so they carry out various policies that new and looks different from the previous decicions.
Most countries keep creating unnecessary laws that keep hunting citizens and making things hard for people. There are some laws that are not too good for people and the government may not be interested to help at any point.
When we look at the ways government keep creating policies that crumbles businesses making it very hard for people to get loans with reasonable interest rate to curb some expenses. Inflation is there and there is nothing we can do about that. We keep struggling and the government keep taking us to drain our small profits.









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August 23, 2023, 10:30:02 PM
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A lot of history is often changed and adapted to government policies, I live in a country that has experienced many problems, and history is certainly different from before, and in my opinion this is to protect the interests of the government, they want to look better than before so they carry out various policies that new and looks different from the previous decicions.
Most countries keep creating unnecessary laws that keep hunting citizens and making things hard for people. There are some laws that are not too good for people and the government may not be interested to help at any point.
When we look at the ways government keep creating policies that crumbles businesses making it very hard for people to get loans with reasonable interest rate to curb some expenses. Inflation is there and there is nothing we can do about that. We keep struggling and the government keep taking us to drain our small profits.
Depends on where you do live but in speaking about economic matters in general scale then we can actually say that inflation becomes more worst in some places or in most although there might be some exemptions on other places which we know that it isnt really that much affected and considered to those countries are rich ones. This is why i dont really care about on what are the government plans and steps that they would be making because the main priority i do have in mind is on how to sustain myself with these economic problems on which it would really be causing for you to live a miserable life or really that very struggling in terms  of expenses and other daily living needs and necessities. As for government decisions which laws and regulations been applied, then as a citizen then there's nothing we can do whether it would really be totally opposing with your interest
or not but still it would really be that final. They are the ones who had the power on imposing rules and regulations which they do thought that it would really be for the better good but there are ones which are good calls and there are ones which are totally shit.

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Nations, corporations like Vanguard and BlackRock, they're not just chasing money; they're chasing power. Money is just a tool to get there. What you're not getting is that these entities see opportunity where others see crisis. Yes, they're in crypto now because crypto is the future of money, the future of control

You're talking about governments and companies holding 88% of the market. That's no coincidence. They want to centralize everything, make it easier for them to control. Take a look at the major tech companies; they're all hoarding data. Why? To manipulate thought, to direct behavior. It's not just about the Benjamins; it's about the very fabric of society

You touched on religious beliefs and norms. That's child's play, my friend. The real war is ideological. Look at how your information is being manipulated every day by the media, by social media, by the very platforms you rely on for information. Are you starting to get the picture?

This is true, most of the media through which we receive information manipulate this data in order to take advantage of it and favor those powerful who have managed to have a fairly influential position in this world and direct practically everything that happens whether it is good or bad. It is ironic how money can change people so much to such a degree that they are capable of destroying others with less influence in order to climb in power...in a few words, these people are the ones who in theory prevent equality from being found and equality ceases to exist. poverty because they need those with these conditions of need to be able to control them and to do what they want…work hard with low salaries, obtaining the best part of the profits to continue growing…This is a reality that always it has existed, not only today, it's just that in these times you can see more clearly the manipulation of these powerful towards the rest of society.
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August 24, 2023, 01:48:56 AM
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So, the point i was trying to make here is, even after getting our own country other countries are still interfering in governments rules and taking things over. I don't like to mention names but many already knew. And just to clear i am not saying these statements to put my problems (my means my country) in front of you guys instead i am just using it as an example.
Actually there are many possibilities, some of them:

Your country may be one of the independent countries that are not truly sovereign, usually its independence is based on gifts from the former colonialists who have unlimited conditions that they can even dictate after years.

Your country is affiliated with an international organization, instead they can intervene in your country's policies on the basis of solidarity with members of the organization.

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So, the point i was trying to make here is, even after getting our own country other countries are still interfering in governments rules and taking things over. I don't like to mention names but many already knew. And just to clear i am not saying these statements to put my problems (my means my country) in front of you guys instead i am just using it as an example.
Actually there are many possibilities, some of them:

Your country may be one of the independent countries that are not truly sovereign, usually its independence is based on gifts from the former colonialists who have unlimited conditions that they can even dictate after years.

Your country is affiliated with an international organization, instead they can intervene in your country's policies on the basis of solidarity with members of the organization.

The majority of the countries around the world are like this. Just look at Africa, they were declared independent but the politics inside the country are governed by their former colonist. Countries you don't expect to be that submissive like Germany or Japan who were once mighty. Not to mention those poor once in Africa.

The Slave Trade saved the big countries which are still trying to enslave to this day through the sanctions they impose on countries but you guess it is a necessity for those countries because if they don't grab lands and colonize countries, it's them that are going to be colonized. 

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A lot of history is often changed and adapted to government policies, I live in a country that has experienced many problems, and history is certainly different from before, and in my opinion this is to protect the interests of the government, they want to look better than before so they carry out various policies that new and looks different from the previous decicions.
Most countries keep creating unnecessary laws that keep hunting citizens and making things hard for people. There are some laws that are not too good for people and the government may not be interested to help at any point.
When we look at the ways government keep creating policies that crumbles businesses making it very hard for people to get loans with reasonable interest rate to curb some expenses. Inflation is there and there is nothing we can do about that. We keep struggling and the government keep taking us to drain our small profits.

I don't have a problem with new laws because they really debated them, but what I want is to prioritize those laws that can help all people. What I mean is that they ease the burden of people, like subsidies or financial aid, because prices right now keep increasing, or they will find a way to stop the increase of prices by putting some subsidies on them, which can greatly help us. Right now, we have nothing to do but work hard and smartly by finding another source of income to cope with this difficult life.
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August 24, 2023, 05:49:10 AM
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So, the point i was trying to make here is, even after getting our own country other countries are still interfering in governments rules and taking things over. I don't like to mention names but many already knew. And just to clear i am not saying these statements to put my problems (my means my country) in front of you guys instead i am just using it as an example.
Actually there are many possibilities, some of them:

Your country may be one of the independent countries that are not truly sovereign, usually its independence is based on gifts from the former colonialists who have unlimited conditions that they can even dictate after years.

Your country is affiliated with an international organization, instead they can intervene in your country's policies on the basis of solidarity with members of the organization.

I believe that is what a lot of people forget, most countries are part of an international organization that has the authority to influence and intervene in a country's decisions and policies. Moreover, going against the policies there international organizations have may lead to cutting connections and good partnerships with other countries that are essential in maintaining security and economic power.

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August 24, 2023, 05:59:38 AM
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A lot of history is often changed and adapted to government policies, I live in a country that has experienced many problems, and history is certainly different from before, and in my opinion this is to protect the interests of the government, they want to look better than before so they carry out various policies that new and looks different from the previous decicions.
Most countries keep creating unnecessary laws that keep hunting citizens and making things hard for people. There are some laws that are not too good for people and the government may not be interested to help at any point.
When we look at the ways government keep creating policies that crumbles businesses making it very hard for people to get loans with reasonable interest rate to curb some expenses. Inflation is there and there is nothing we can do about that. We keep struggling and the government keep taking us to drain our small profits.

I don't have a problem with new laws because they really debated them, but what I want is to prioritize those laws that can help all people. What I mean is that they ease the burden of people, like subsidies or financial aid, because prices right now keep increasing, or they will find a way to stop the increase of prices by putting some subsidies on them, which can greatly help us. Right now, we have nothing to do but work hard and smartly by finding another source of income to cope with this difficult life.
Sometimes there are indeed many policies from the government that do not benefit the small community, but it all returns to dirty politics carried out by a handful of individuals for personal gain, so that many people are at a disadvantage, I think in poor countries or developing countries it is difficult to overcome, because many governments are corrupt so that laws like this are born.
And even if we work hard, we still depend on government policies regarding wages and also the price of basic commodities which will affect whether or not the people at the bottom are adequacy, that is a problem, I think, that has no solution.
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We live in a world with a growing population and diminishing resources. A lot of governments and powerful people realize that and they are trying to find ways to feed their "voters" and also to provide energy and water.

The people (voters) keep them in power and they pay taxes.... the taxes pay their salaries, so they will do anything to keep the voters happy, so that they can benefit from that. (The powerful people behind them, want to make money from the resources that are provided... and some even pay huge bribes to the government officials to gain access to those resources)  Roll Eyes

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August 24, 2023, 06:53:38 AM
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I think that these two have pretty much the same reason that drives them to adopt new things which is benefit of the change to them, the only difference I think is that the government needs to make sure that to some degree, the benefit should be cost efficient and that it can line their pockets well if they're the corrupt kind. Now others say it's money and power or something tangible but I think it all boils down to just benefits imo, it's not worth adopting or embracing if we know that it's not going benefit us right?
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Everything kind of a boils down to money to be honest. People, countries, big corporations, governments – all chasing the same one thing, money. Money that gives you power and lets you control everything. It's like we're hardwired to compete and dominate, especially when dollar signs are involved. Sure, there's politics, power, and all that jazz, but money's the main tune. If these people hear that there is opportunity in making some quick bucks, they will all run towards there and compete with each other. They will be the first one to take bold decisions. Why do you think most people are trying to adopt crypto currencies? It's because people can make nice profit by investing in crypto or working with crypto. If all crypto currencies were stable coins, I doubt we would be seeing more people interested/using crypto. They would all stick to fiat currency.

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The studies are out there and I can provide them if you wish (I assume this is common knowledge) -- COVID was the biggest transfer transfer of wealth away from the middle class to the elites (not the rich, but the ultra elite). It was entirely government induced.
I would love to read those studies and looking forward to your reply with data. And that's for sure that only the elites have filled their bags with money while only the middle ones suffered because I watched a video on IG, in which a long hair dude was explaining how the big organizations like the medical ones made billions of dollars.

World Inequality Report shows an increase in the total wealth of top income earners globally over the last few years. The increase in wealth was more evidence in 2021, of course, as there was more money circulating in the economy. Nonetheless, the trend continued for 2022: https://wir2022.wid.world/executive-summary/

In summary: Global wealth inequality exists and has existed for centuries. It was only over the last century that a robust middle class began to form globally. And in 2020-2021, the middle class regressed, as evident by the increase in total global wealth that billionaires own (up 1.5% from 2% at the start of 2020, which is to say that billionaires owned 3.5% of total global household wealth post COVID-19)

Pharma, e-commerce platforms like Amazon, etc. all escaped the pandemic with middle class wealth.
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August 27, 2023, 03:55:05 AM
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Everything kind of a boils down to money to be honest. People, countries, big corporations, governments – all chasing the same one thing, money. Money that gives you power and lets you control everything. It's like we're hardwired to compete and dominate, especially when dollar signs are involved. Sure, there's politics, power, and all that jazz, but money's the main tune. If these people hear that there is opportunity in making some quick bucks, they will all run towards there and compete with each other. They will be the first one to take bold decisions. Why do you think most people are trying to adopt crypto currencies? It's because people can make nice profit by investing in crypto or working with crypto. If all crypto currencies were stable coins, I doubt we would be seeing more people interested/using crypto. They would all stick to fiat currency.

You are pretty much right here. The very reason why influential countries are influential and strong is due to the wealth of that country. The wealthier the country is the higher their status gets, putting other countries that are below them to look up to them and be influenced by them. Politics and power even relate to wealth if you think about it.

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