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August 18, 2023, 04:53:06 PM
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How are you going to believe this guy in this case? This issue is some how complicated and you can't say Mr A is right and at the same time say Mr A is also right, like always? Someone is not telling the truth.
He got paid on the first complain by the first casino, now he's having same issue with another casino, my question is... What if he's using same pattern to get something from these casinos? Is not really clear, now same scam accusation on BC.game?
Like is he the only one that's being scammed by these casinos? Why are others not giving same complain?
I'm just saying though...

This is actually the point of my topic. The forum is being use to get their way against the casino assuming the user involved is indeed doing shady things. BC.game doesn’t disclose what the user did to violate their ToS which is understandable because it might be exploited by other user. We will never know who’s telling the truth unless both party agree to use 3rd party arbitrage just like what is suggested of some user.

I’m really doubtful about the credibility of this user because it happened to him on 2 different casino while Bc.game said that the user did violate their ToS and just paid using their own money.

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August 19, 2023, 04:20:21 AM
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How are you going to believe this guy in this case? This issue is some how complicated and you can't say Mr A is right and at the same time say Mr A is also right, like always? Someone is not telling the truth.
He got paid on the first complain by the first casino, now he's having same issue with another casino, my question is... What if he's using same pattern to get something from these casinos? Is not really clear, now same scam accusation on BC.game?
Like is he the only one that's being scammed by these casinos? Why are others not giving same complain?
I'm just saying though...

This is actually the point of my topic. The forum is being use to get their way against the casino assuming the user involved is indeed doing shady things. BC.game doesn’t disclose what the user did to violate their ToS which is understandable because it might be exploited by other user. We will never know who’s telling the truth unless both party agree to use 3rd party arbitrage just like what is suggested of some user.

I’m really doubtful about the credibility of this user because it happened to him on 2 different casino while Bc.game said that the user did violate their ToS and just paid using their own money.

If that's the case then to me I feel this user knows what he's doing, letting the Forum fight a battle for him to take the glory, being the victim here and causing damages to those casino even spoiling their reputation.
If he's found guilty I don't know what punishment would suit him and again I have this feeling that he might even have another account but he's using this one to do his dirty job in the Forum.

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August 19, 2023, 06:24:10 AM
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Sometimes it's so hard to know who is right or who is wrong, that's why casinos and the person accusing them are sometimes advised to try to use mediators to settle such disputes like askgamblers or casinoguru.

Scam is not moderated in the forum and so are the scam accusations. Have you noticed that mods will rarely delete posts in the scam accusations board?


Well, we all know that there are some casinos which are reputed ones. If anyone posts anything against them, no one is going to believe them and their reputation will not be hurt. Yes, if there are suddenly a lot of people complaining even about the reputed casino, then things might be different but one or two scam accusation threads wont hurt much to the good casinos.


Scam is not moderated in the forum and so are the scam accusations. Have you noticed that mods will rarely delete posts in the scam accusations board?

It's good that posts in scam accusations threads are not deleted. Even if someone comes up and put a wrong case on the casino, the casino representative should come up with evidence and proof that the person claiming is at fault himself.

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August 19, 2023, 07:03:17 AM
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But let's see... he could have been created a very new account and used it to complain without even mentioning if he's old forum user just like many does !!  Or not??!



IMO I think OP is a bit hard on the user, believe me if he's really guilty there's almost no way that he get something!
 (Talkink about ToU / ToS they should never be unfair or abusive btw)

The violation was not of our terms and conditions. This decision was made by a third party risk management team. We ultimately decided that we don't always agree with other platforms terms of use. Since a player was affected by this through our platform, we felt it was the right thing to do. We are able to learn and change so this type of situation will not happen again.


You could at least have read this message, you think really the case could have treated like that ?






IMO.. some platforms as sick as they are could flag a user just by seeing him doing some uncommon wins !  And as sick as they are could just stuck you by any diverted way just because they do not want to lose anything !  even if the fault is on them!


( third party risk management ) what that could be in sports betting?  There is only one thing that comes my mind, is those "teams that works to find / detect rigged events / match fixing !", That rather by following the bets trends.. For example if all the odds are of 10% to 90% and they see an unusual number of bets on the (10%) they give an alert to stop it !

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August 21, 2023, 07:56:12 PM
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This sometimes happens where cheaters try to manipulate forum members through scam accusations against services here, especially casinos. Sometimes it's so hard to know who is right or who is wrong, that's why casinos and the person accusing them are sometimes advised to try to use mediators to settle such disputes like askgamblers or casinoguru.

Scam is not moderated in the forum and so are the scam accusations. Have you noticed that mods will rarely delete posts in the scam accusations board?


that's right, I've seen for a long time that posts in the scam section are never deleted regardless of whether the allegations are true or false, this is a free forum and all members have the right to have opinions (the rules are like that)

the case that I often see is when a player is detected as having another account and when he or she wants to make a withdrawal, his account is immediately frozen, it's difficult to prove which is right and wrong because the gambling site doesn't want to divulge how they detect the alt account of the player by carelessly and it could be that the player did do that but didn't want to admit it, this is my reason for inviting members who are used to playing on gambling sites that are accused of giving opinions based on experience and also the evidence they can provide, that's really really helpful .



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August 21, 2023, 08:18:23 PM
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This sometimes happens where cheaters try to manipulate forum members through scam accusations against services here, especially casinos. Sometimes it's so hard to know who is right or who is wrong, that's why casinos and the person accusing them are sometimes advised to try to use mediators to settle such disputes like askgamblers or casinoguru.

Scam is not moderated in the forum and so are the scam accusations. Have you noticed that mods will rarely delete posts in the scam accusations board?


that's right, I've seen for a long time that posts in the scam section are never deleted regardless of whether the allegations are true or false, this is a free forum and all members have the right to have opinions (the rules are like that)

the case that I often see is when a player is detected as having another account and when he or she wants to make a withdrawal, his account is immediately frozen, it's difficult to prove which is right and wrong because the gambling site doesn't want to divulge how they detect the alt account of the player by carelessly and it could be that the player did do that but didn't want to admit it, this is my reason for inviting members who are used to playing on gambling sites that are accused of giving opinions based on experience and also the evidence they can provide, that's really really helpful .

So how does a removing a post from scam accusation would help the casino or the player being affected?

As you mentioned that sometimes it is hard to judge who is speaking the truth and who is at fault, so it makes even harder for the forum admins to delete the post as they also do not know who is at fault.

Better to keep everything black and white on the scam accusation thread and the people will judge themselves who is standing at the right side and who is pretending to be right.

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August 21, 2023, 11:57:27 PM
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IMO I think OP is a bit hard on the user, believe me if he's really guilty there's almost no way that he get something!
 (Talkink about ToU / ToS they should never be unfair or abusive btw)

The violation was not of our terms and conditions. This decision was made by a third party risk management team. We ultimately decided that we don't always agree with other platforms terms of use. Since a player was affected by this through our platform, we felt it was the right thing to do. We are able to learn and change so this type of situation will not happen again.


You could at least have read this message, you think really the case could have treated like that ?



I think he missed it I'm not taking the user's side but BC.GAME did not refute it and admit that there was harm to the user's account so what they did was right so they are not accusing the user of wrongdoing, a casino will not yield to a false demand it's a bad precedence and they will be targeted for their weakness.
There was and there's still forum abuse by users creating false accusations but not on this one.

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