Alt account or loan defaulter [Obari]

[Nwada001]

I don't know any of the account owners in person, though, but they are both good contributors to our local board, as I have seen both members post on countless occasions, and they are organic.

@Obari, if you can connect with @Sakanwa, please just do that for the user to come and clear the loan that is being owned as it's already overdue, one case at a time, and I hope the member responds to calls and messages as it might turn out bad for S/he's account if the loan is not cleared.

@Obari tell your friend @Sakanwa to please pay back the loan today. It's now two days overdue.
If he does not have money, at least he can add me on telegram and we can set up a installment.
I need my money asap.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5445759.msg62745873#msg62745873

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From the thread link you provided, it was already clearly stated that you give the loan default up to 24 hours. Why the change of time? And secondly, I will advise the loan defaulter, if ready to pay, to deal with things directly here on the forum and not follow any telegram users for transparency, shake in others for other users to also verify when the loan has fully been repaid, and the loan was also taken on this forum and not outside the forum, so the business will be nice if concluded here too.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

I don't know any of the account owners in person, though, but they are both good contributors to our local board, as I have seen both members post on countless occasions, and they are organic.

@Obari, if you can connect with @Sakanwa, please just do that for the user to come and clear the loan that is being owned as it's already overdue, one case at a time, and I hope the member responds to calls and messages as it might turn out bad for S/he's account if the loan is not cleared.

@Obari tell your friend @Sakanwa to please pay back the loan today. It's now two days overdue.
If he does not have money, at least he can add me on telegram and we can set up a installment.
I need my money asap.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5445759.msg62745873#msg62745873

▂ ▅ ▆ ▇ https://t.me/CyberCowb0y ▇ ▆ ▅ ▂

From the thread link you provided, it was already clearly stated that you give the loan default up to 24 hours. Why the change of time? And secondly, I will advise the loan defaulter, if ready to pay, to deal with things directly here on the forum and not follow any telegram users for transparency, shake in others for other users to also verify when the loan has fully been repaid, and the loan was also taken on this forum and not outside the forum, so the business will be nice if concluded here too.

Let's stay a bit honest here.
90% of Sakanwa's posts are in different European football league threads, at least on the last 5 pages, meaning 100 posts.
Also these posts are all close to each other, time wise, or in bulk, basically posting to get paid, nothing more nothing less. Often there is 1 hour or 30min between the posts, which COULD hint he in between he is posting with alt account. Just an assumption/observation.
There is no problem with that, many do this as a "job" , but you can't say he is such a valuable part giving his posting activity.

Also, he took part in the mixin safe review campaign, where he got paid 0.003 btc on July 29th.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460259.msg62617986#msg62617986

With this money he could have paid back his loan, he chose not to. With his rewards from the signature campaign he could have paid his loan, he chose not to.
He is aware of the situation right now, has been online several times, he chose not to comment in the forum.

That says a lot.

The whole cybercowboy "hack or not" situation is messy enough, not getting a loan paid back is a different story. And about Obari, I guess we all know what's going on, people are not blind.

Just me 2 cents about this, let's see how it all plays out.

[Nwada001]

I don't know any of the account owners in person, though, but they are both good contributors to our local board, as I have seen both members post on countless occasions, and they are organic.

@Obari, if you can connect with @Sakanwa, please just do that for the user to come and clear the loan that is being owned as it's already overdue, one case at a time, and I hope the member responds to calls and messages as it might turn out bad for S/he's account if the loan is not cleared.

@Obari tell your friend @Sakanwa to please pay back the loan today. It's now two days overdue.
If he does not have money, at least he can add me on telegram and we can set up a installment.
I need my money asap.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5445759.msg62745873#msg62745873

▂ ▅ ▆ ▇ https://t.me/CyberCowb0y ▇ ▆ ▅ ▂

From the thread link you provided, it was already clearly stated that you give the loan default up to 24 hours. Why the change of time? And secondly, I will advise the loan defaulter, if ready to pay, to deal with things directly here on the forum and not follow any telegram users for transparency, shake in others for other users to also verify when the loan has fully been repaid, and the loan was also taken on this forum and not outside the forum, so the business will be nice if concluded here too.

Let's stay a bit honest here.
90% of Sakanwa's posts are in different European football league threads, at least on the last 5 pages, meaning 100 posts.
Also these posts are all close to each other, time wise, or in bulk, basically posting to get paid, nothing more nothing less. Often there is 1 hour or 30min between the posts, which COULD hint he in between he is posting with alt account. Just an assumption/observation.
There is no problem with that, many do this as a "job" , but you can't say he is such a valuable part giving his posting activity.

Let's stay a bit honest in what aspects, please? And where in my statement did you find that dishonesty? You can read back the statement again.. even if the said Sakanwa posted on ones in a page of 4 on the local board, those few posts are what I mean by being contributing to our local board, and I have seen such posts on our local board more than I can remember. The above-mentioned football threads are where I barely visit as I am not much of a lover of football, so unless you saw something else in my statement that proves otherwise, or maybe you have a different definition for the word "honest,"

[GiftedMAN]

Funny how things work here
And respectful  I'm a user who is very committed  in the lending board and on several occasions I've asked shashan for a loan and he turned me down and I even asked for a loan this morning because as we all know that it takes sometimes several hours before shashan approves of loans and since my appointment  with the doctor was supposed to be tomorrow, I had to seek a loan so I can get ready before tomorrow.

@Obari, I think you don't need to feel disappointed because you were not granted your loan request @shashan must have a reason for not given you and you can't force it on him neither will you question him about it because it's not your business neither is it your money. Now concerning your health issues, I think you need to find a way very fast to take proper medication so that something bad will not happen to you while you are working to resolve the issues surrounding you right now. Coming to the forum I have come across a thread where a Nigerian forum member was lost it will be very bad if such news comes up again as a result of your ignorance, get medication while you still have a case here you can as your local board for assistance I believe everyone will be willing to help out.

I stand to be corrected if I go a bit off to the topic of discussion but I think @Obari needs to get better to be able to answer for himself here. Most times people don't think probably when they are sick and it may lead to something else so I suggest we give him sometime to get back to good health before something bad happens to him as a result of this, my honest suggestions though.

[Lida93]

I respect your decisions sir but I think it will be fair enough if you give me some clue to why you turned me down because last I checked, I haven't failed not even for once on my loan terms and I've been very respectful in time past and the only time it seems I got you angry was because I wasn't familiar  with sending usdt on binance and I use a Samsung  s9 with a poor battery health and the phone went off in the middle of our conversation  which I responded to as soon as I got the phone charged.



I've known sakanwa from childhood and I can always attest for him and since my phone has been bad, I've  been logging in my account with his phone most times and it has really dragged me backward for over three weeks or so because I haven't been able to meet up with my work in my signature  campaign because I have to share sakanwa's phone with him and you know mistakes do happen and sakanwa is a totally different  entity  all together which i believe  many other persons might know him in person in the local board and I have been pairing with him on his phone and if something like this happens then is a mistake.

I want to correct that Obari isn't a loan defaulter neither do I have any alt what so ever.

Lack of constant power supply is one big torn on the flesh for majority of the people from those third world developing countries (like myself I don't engage in trading when am with a low battery below 50% charge as I can't afford losing my money due to a flat phone in the middle of my trade) and it's more worsen for those persons using phones with poor battery as it can mess them up at any point not minding how important whatever shit they  are executing is to you. So @Obari I can relate to your alibi from that angle that's if it's coming from a place of truth.

Am not trying to give some clumsy excuse in your behalf but I think I'll agree with @Giftedman, your health should be of cardinal concern for you to attend to at the moment as the issue on ground you're head on to resolving is secondary to life(health they say is wealth) and can be resolved when you're back in good health, you can't be dealing simultaneously with the tension from your health and forum allegation at same time.

Meanwhile I am very disappointed at loan seekers like @Sakanwa, so apply every means necessary to get to him to clear his loan, it is someone's business and shouldn't be joked with as am not in support of such attitude of borrowers  towards people's business.

[Mahdirakib]

Although I don't have any strong evidence, but it seems like there is one more account connected with Sakanwa or Obari. And the account is hashrateproducts. Sakanwa had applied on the MoneyPot signature campaign at 9:32 PM on 20th August. And 'hashrateproducts' had applied on the same campaign at 9:34 PM on 20th August. Sakanwa had applied in the campaign before hashrateproducts. Therefore, it wasn't a copy paste mistake from Sakanwa.

Rank: Full Member
Bech32 address:  bc1q6d44ca2vftpgn9hnqft7ngumex9x3aj70tfljf
Merit earned in the last 120 days:10

Rank: Full member
Bech32 address: bc1q6d44ca2vftpgn9hnqft7ngumex9x3aj70tfljf
Merit earned in the last 120 days: 10

'hashrateproducts' had received 0.003 BTC from Mixin Safe review campaign on 19th July, then he sent the BTC to Obari's Bitcoin address.


(Transaction link)

BTC SegWit Address: bc1qk4y8tmgznqg9k9t3t9rzmyqhdy522zutz3gjsu

I'm not sure about the 'loan defaulter' part, but those 3 accounts might be connected (alt accounts).

[JeromeTash]

I'm not sure about the 'loan defaulter' part, but those 3 accounts might be connected (alt accounts).

And the hashrateproducts account has a large post gap between 2014 and 2017 and also between 2017 and 2022. Posting style completely changed from 2022. I will be damned if this account wasn't sold or hacked.

I think there might be more account connections here and something is not true.


I wondered why Obari kept requesting for a loan even when Shasan kept rejecting it. Something was not right, but i didn't want to interfere.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Although I don't have any strong evidence, but it seems like there is one more account connected with Sakanwa or Obari. And the account is hashrateproducts. Sakanwa had applied on the MoneyPot signature campaign at 9:32 PM on 20th August. And 'hashrateproducts' had applied on the same campaign at 9:34 PM on 20th August. Sakanwa had applied in the campaign before hashrateproducts. Therefore, it wasn't a copy paste mistake from Sakanwa.

Rank: Full Member
Bech32 address:  bc1q6d44ca2vftpgn9hnqft7ngumex9x3aj70tfljf
Merit earned in the last 120 days:10

Rank: Full member
Bech32 address: bc1q6d44ca2vftpgn9hnqft7ngumex9x3aj70tfljf
Merit earned in the last 120 days: 10

'hashrateproducts' had received 0.003 BTC from Mixin Safe review campaign on 19th July, then he sent the BTC to Obari's Bitcoin address.


(Transaction link)

BTC SegWit Address: bc1qk4y8tmgznqg9k9t3t9rzmyqhdy522zutz3gjsu

I'm not sure about the 'loan defaulter' part, but those 3 accounts might be connected (alt accounts).

Nice find! Pandora's box has been opened! 

I wouldn't be surprised if some of those accounts jumping in this thread to defend obari are somehow connected as well. They blindly jump on the "why didn't I get a loan" part and totally ignore the multi account problem, even though it's super obvious.

These 3 mentioned are definitely controlled by the same person, the connections are too strong. First the "damn I used them wrong account" mistake, now this.

[Timelord2067]

Samsung  s9

Didn't ps34 have one of those he was trying to flog off as collateral at one point?

How common / age are they? My phone is a different brand, so I'm not familiar with them.

[BabyBandit]

Samsung  s9

Didn't ps34 have one of those he was trying to flog off as collateral at one point?

How common / age are they? My phone is a different brand, so I'm not familiar with them.

I think using Google five seconds will give you an answer.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&sca_esv=560219957&sxsrf=AB5stBiWySEAtjLgNFxVveV7qhhT52NPtA:1693009901862&q=When+did+Samsung+s9+come+out&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiju7SuifmAAxVBRvEDHTKWBaYQBSgAegQIDBAB&biw=1920&bih=955&dpr=1

[Timelord2067]

You're new here, aren't you? 😜

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Just coming across this for the first time, very interesting if I must say this , obari is an active poster in our Nigerian local board , it is completely disappointing to see him involved in such an issue , as an established user of this forum, he should have known how much the forum frowns at user operating an alt account.

Though I still believe it's a cock and bull story , but if I should give him the benefit of doubt , I will say that it is very foolish of him to have decided to use another user's phone to access his account ,when he is in a signature campaign , if the current phone he's using is very bad as he said , he could have saved up earning from his signature earning for at least two weeks , that is enough to get him a complete new phone with better battery , or he could have used third quarter of his signature earning to get himself a power bank, which will ensure he's phone is always on , and for the screen , the remaining half of his weekly signature earning could have been used to change the screen of the phone , so let's just say that, his one week signature earning is enough to fix he's phone, but he still decided to make use of another forum user's phone , that story is completely unbelievable to me , it's just one of those excuses , who ever is caught doing one wrong thing or the other will always have an excuse or excuses as to why or what made them do what they did , I hope this does not escalate more than this, cause if it does , it will be very detrimental for his reputation.

[Poker Player]

Although I don't have any strong evidence, but it seems like there is one more account connected with Sakanwa or Obari. And the account is hashrateproducts. Sakanwa had applied on the MoneyPot signature campaign at 9:32 PM on 20th August. And 'hashrateproducts' had applied on the same campaign at 9:34 PM on 20th August. Sakanwa had applied in the campaign before hashrateproducts. Therefore, it wasn't a copy paste mistake from Sakanwa.

...

I'm not sure about the 'loan defaulter' part, but those 3 accounts might be connected (alt accounts).

There is another interesting thing about it, and that is that whoever is behind hashrateproducts is not the original owner of the account, which I think deserves a thread.

[nutildah]

Edit: I just saw the post by Mahdirakib that demonstrates the connection had already been made.

This guy has a ton of alt accounts... Somewhat ironically I was just connecting a few of them earlier today due to a thread opened by Poker Player, titled hashrateproducts is a bought or hacked account.



Sakanwa applied for the sig campaign two minutes before hashrateproducts but then deleted their post after realizing their mistake. He's been so busy trying to manage different alt accounts that he slips up from time to time -- a recurring theme I see often among multi-accounters.

You can find some of the other connected accounts here. I am tagging both Obari and Sakanwa (double-edit: I will not tag these accounts if all outstanding loans by this person are repaid). Dude is having a very bad day today so I won't look for other alts for the moment.

[stompix]

Let me tell you from years of experience what happens usually in those cases, instead of cleaning your reputation, you make everyone look at your account and more nasty stuff comes to light. I've seen enough accounts coming here to clear a misunderstanding and leaving with 10x more red tags and with an army of alts uncovered.

Oh, what a surprise, seems like my crystal ball was fixed.
Turns out the laptop on which he did the review was a loan from his childhood friend's cousin in law nephew who just happened to have purchased a hacked account and just by mistake as he was leaving the house he posted an application for that signature campaign, only to correct it two minutes later. I'm totally sure that's how things went, totally understandable! /s
So, how long did it take, one day?

What I'm curious about is if he has learned something from this and has decided to shut up for his own good and stop trying to impersonate someone else and claim he's the friend of the friend of the friend. Otherwise, popcorn!
I just saw that there is an ETH address involved, which means bounty hunting so at least a dozen more.

'hashrateproducts' had received 0.003 BTC from Mixin Safe review campaign on 19th July, then he sent the BTC to Obari's Bitcoin address.

The irony in this, getting caught because you linked your adreses by using a mixer promo funds.

[JeromeTash]

It's unfortunate that Obari just decides to lie in our eyes that sakanwa is his childhood friend whose phone he has been using lately due to his phone's poor battery health. I now find most of his story hard to believe.

This whole issue could have been solved with just a simple acceptance that sakanwa is his alt account. There is nothing bad with having an alt account in the forum but what I see from Obari is dishonest behavior

1. Taking loans using alt accounts and then refusing to pay. Yet 2 of his alt accounts are enrolled in good paying campaigns. This is greed!
2. Going further to lie about his alt accounts when caught pants down

You also told as you had "called" sakanwa to come here and address this issue, we are not seeing any response from him or (you)  

Obari can you explain this?

If sakanwa is your childhood friend and this was a one-off mistake, then why are a some of his transactions going through your main exchange address at times?
Like in this example

bc1qk4y8tmgznqg9k9t3t9rzmyqhdy522zutz3gjsuv is your address (exchange address) which you use to apply in so many campaigns

Sakanwa, your "childhood friend" happens to use this address bc1q3aufw7py3e64njjaak0sndy59prruw4ayvdf5f when applying for a number of campaigns
What is unusual though is bc1q3aufw7py3e64njjaak0sndy59prruw4ayvdf5f sent some BTC received from a campaign to bc1qd7wyg4vl9xjsn4eg25mlyt4l00ajd65p9fvume which a few hours later sent all the BTC to bc1qk4y8tmgznqg9k9t3t9rzmyqhdy522zutz3gjsuv, Obari's official address!

I don't trust you, Obari. You are lying!

If no clear response is made from any of your alts. I might have to tag all of them.

[Cantlogin]

Loan update about Sakanwa

Sakanwa has now paid back 0.00139BTC (a part of the total amount)

Can be seen here: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/601f9b346f3550f88f8f5db3499fde11418d19d5e2e5def37336fb952af64d5b

He still got 0.00085BTC to pay back, and we have come to an agreement when that payment is gonna be, so he has no outstanding loan with me anymore.

Thank you Sakanwa.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5445759.msg62754740#msg62754740

[lovesmayfamilis]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5361684.msg58032025#msg58032025

I won't take sides, but I'll show another example where users use the same device to participate in a forum. Perhaps for those who have several devices at home, and also have the means to buy a new phone before solving their problems, it is difficult to understand that there may be other cases among us. I do not know if this is true or false, but let everything remain on the conscience of these people.
The only thing that can be said is that the best solution would be to refuse any loans from this forum and solve your problems yourself. Learn not to live in debt, it's better not to eat up for a week than to walk and hide your eyes and feel like nothing.
As for the lies of these two accounts, they have certainly lost their credibility, and are getting a tilde.

[Mahdirakib]

I won't take sides, but I'll show another example where users use the same device to participate in a forum. ~snip~
As for the lies of these two accounts, they have certainly lost their credibility, and are getting a tilde.

The situation has already taken a different direction in this case as we have found more possible connection with other accounts. You should check this post of mine, this post of nutildah and this post of JeromeTash. Obari has received Bitcoin from 'Sakanwa' and 'hashrateproducts' Bitcoin address. Should we consider that Obari is buying Bitcoin from other people while he can't afford to buy a new phone or fix his damaged phone?

Moreover, Obari has used desktop 3 weeks ago when he posted his review for Mixin Safe. Obari had also claimed that he has both desktop and laptop. I'm wondering why he wants to rely on other people phone while he has better device (desktop and laptop) of his own.

~snip~ personally I have a desktop and also a laptop ~

[shasan]

I've already cleared up my loan with Shashan weeks back and anyone who was observant would have noticed that I've  been struggling  to make post on my account for sometime now and I barely miss post number because I make my post passionately not to pursue signature quarter and I haven't been an easy one for me without a good phone and still investing all the money I earn in health.

There is no issue about the previous loan for me and it is not for the asking loan on my thread. This thread is about the alt account or not.

Sakanwa can't pay back a loan and in the same moment Obari tries to take a loan. Also Obari commented in Sakanwa's loan thread like he is answering the accusations. Doesn't make too much sense.
Also Obari was contacting the lender to please delete the quoted post looks pretty sus to be honest.

I think the health and phone story is what it is, a story.

It is a silly excuse that can be said by anyone and I don't think it can be proved that the account is his/her friend. Alt account is very dangerous for trading/lending.

So you don't have the right to ask for an explanation because loans are given based on the lender's rules.

You are right as the owner of the money/dollar is the lender.