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In this new website I compare, feature by feature, the most popular Bitcoin Software Wallets: https://thebitcoinhole.com/software-wallets(For a comparison of hardware wallets you can also visit: https://thebitcoinhole.com/) |
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hosseinimr93
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Why did you post this topic on "Bitcoin Wallet for Android" board?
Since some of the wallets don't have android version, I doubt you have compared the wallets that are available only in android.
Take note that there may be some differences between mobile and desktop versions of wallets.
For example, unlike what is shown in the table, electrum allow you to generate a 24 word seed phrase in its desktop version using console.
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September 02, 2023, 07:05:05 AM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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The platform seems nice and sophisticated too. But if the websites are yours and you have shared them to take some suggestions then my suggestion is to put an information icon on top of every tab or at least show some information of the heading if we take cursor on it as it will be more helpful for newbies like me to know what we are looking at.
Overall, websites seem good and fast too. Plus as hosseinimr93 has indicated that the desktop version allows us to generate 24-word seed phrases for Electrum wallet but you mentioned NO in the comparison. I think you must be talking about the mobile version as the comparison is also about the mobile version but you should also write somewhere that the comparison is only for the wallets which are running on smart phone or Android. I found writing this statement only in the URL other than that I did not find any. Maybe I might have missed it but it will be good if the heading is more visible.
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September 02, 2023, 07:19:56 AM |
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I think you must be talking about the mobile version as the comparison is also about the mobile version but you should also write somewhere that the comparison is only for the wallets which are running on smart phone or Android.
I don't think the comparison has been made only for mobile wallets. For example, Wasabi and Sparrow don't have mobile versions at all, but both are shown in that table. And assuming the table is referring to the android version of electrum and not its desktop version, it's not the "Coin Control" that wrong information is displayed for. The android version of electrum doesn't support Coin Control. |
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September 02, 2023, 07:36:25 AM |
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I like the table, but it needs little edition. Nunchuk Windows, MacOS and Linux OS are still in beta stage, but you indicated that the OS are supporting the device. It would be better to edit it to 'beta'. When I downloaded the wallet some weeks or months ago, the wallet automatically load itself anytime I start my laptop. Also it is having inheritance plan and online seed phrase backup which I can not recommend. Pay-to-taproot (P2TR) Indicated in yellow for partially supported wallets like Bluewallet, Samourai and Specter. These wallets are not supporting pay-to-taproot. What did you mean by partially supported? Replace-by-fee (RBF) You indicated that Wasabi wallet supports it. Yes, but you can not replace transaction on Wasabi wallet. You will have to export the seed phrase on a wallet that support RBF to be able to use RBF for the unconfirmed transaction. Passphrases support (BIP-38)It supposed to be BIP39 passphrase. The wallet you are referring to are BIP39 wallets that make use of BIP39 seed phrase, and BIP39 passphrase which is called extended word, not BIP38 passphrase/password that is used to encrypt a private key for paper wallet. You need to correct that. I think you must be talking about the mobile version as the comparison is also about the mobile version but you should also write somewhere that the comparison is only for the wallets which are running on smart phone or Android.
I don't think the comparison has been made only for mobile wallets. For example, Wasabi and Sparrow don't have mobile versions at all, but both are shown in that table. And assuming the table is referring to the android version of electrum and not its desktop version, it's not the "Coin Control" that wrong information is displayed for. The android version of electrum doesn't support Coin Control. It also indicated encryption storage for Electrum, there is nothing like file storage on Android Electrum again. |
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September 02, 2023, 11:05:26 AM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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Based on the issues raised by the above users, you should probably add multiple versions of each wallet to the list [unless you can make a dynamic table that could show different results based on the chosen platforms] and while you're at it, you might want to ditch the "platforms section" completely [e.g. list and filters]. - Since you've posted this thread in the "Bitcoin Wallet for Android" sub-board, you should probably check "Envoy" as well. |
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September 02, 2023, 12:50:07 PM |
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The comparison is not for Android only, is for all the platforms. There is a section in the table that mention on which platform is running. I probably confused the category of the forum. Should I have used "Wallet Software" category, right?
I know that not the same features could be available on all the platforms. I that cases I could mention that in the overlay dialog when clicking the cell.
Thanks for the feedback. I will review it, reply and fix the data on the website.
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September 02, 2023, 01:08:41 PM |
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It's interesting that Wallet Scrutiny has tagged Bitcoin Keeper as having private source code and hence as a closed-source software. Maybe it was like that several months ago when they conducted their test and the company released the code only after. Nice job with the new software addition to your website! |
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September 02, 2023, 02:23:39 PM
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Take note that there may be some differences between mobile and desktop versions of wallets.
For example, unlike what is shown in the table, electrum allow you to generate a 24 word seed phrase in its desktop version using console.
Fixed that info for Electrum. Thanks !!!
The platform seems nice and sophisticated too. But if the websites are yours and you have shared them to take some suggestions then my suggestion is to put an information icon on top of every tab or at least show some information of the heading if we take cursor on it as it will be more helpful for newbies like me to know what we are looking at.
Thanks for the feedback. You can click in some data cells to get extra info (like blog posts, documentation or youtube videos). You can also can click on the cells in the features column to get more info about each of them. 
Nunchuk Windows, MacOS and Linux OS are still in beta stage, but you indicated that the OS are supporting the device. It would be better to edit it to 'beta'. When I downloaded the wallet some weeks or months ago, the wallet automatically load itself anytime I start my laptop. Also it is having inheritance plan and online seed phrase backup which I can not recommend.
You are right. Fixed. I added a BETA label [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] |
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September 02, 2023, 04:57:19 PM |
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I don't think the comparison has been made only for mobile wallets.
For example, Wasabi and Sparrow don't have mobile versions at all, but both are shown in that table.
And assuming the table is referring to the android version of electrum and not its desktop version, it's not the "Coin Control" that wrong information is displayed for. The android version of electrum doesn't support Coin Control.
Got the point dear, many other members have also found some mistakes in the comparison table and if those mistakes are in comparison table then they also exist on the second domain as well, provided by the OP. Thanks for the feedback. You can click in some data cells to get extra info (like blog posts, documentation or youtube videos). You can also can click on the cells in the features column to get more info about each of them. I did not notice that some of the headings have hyperlinks or informative tabs, I think it will be way better if all the tabs are provided with this feature. But still, the website is overall good and this demand of me is just a wish that came to my mind while using your platform. |
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September 02, 2023, 06:29:27 PM Merited by Charles-Tim (1) |
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Replace-by-fee (RBF)
You indicated that Wasabi wallet supports it. Yes, but you can not replace transaction on Wasabi wallet. You will have to export the seed phrase on a wallet that support RBF to be able to use RBF for the unconfirmed transaction.
Passphrases support (BIP-38)
It supposed to be BIP39 passphrase. The wallet you are referring to are BIP39 wallets that make use of BIP39 seed phrase, and BIP39 passphrase which is called extended word, not BIP38 passphrase/password that is used to encrypt a private key for paper wallet. You need to correct that.
According to their documentation. Wasabi has RBF support: https://docs.wasabiwallet.io/FAQ/FAQ-UseWasabi.html#how-can-i-speed-up-a-pending-unconfirmed-transaction-cpfp-rbfFixed the "Passphrases support" wrong BIP. Thanks |
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RBF was introduced in their latest version (I guess), but CPFP was removed.How can I bump the transaction fee with child pays for parent (CPFP)?
Since Wasabi version 2.0.4 this FAQ is now obsolete because of the new Speed Up Transaction feature that can be used.
Version 2.0.4 is the latest version which was released some days ago. https://blog.wasabiwallet.io/wasabis-latest-release-2-0-4-improves-coinjoin-efficiency/It is worth knowing that going for non censored and non spying coinjoin like Whirlpool on Sparrow and Samourai is better. |
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I see you decided to expand your website from only hardware wallets to software wallets and other bitcoin related stuff. My suggestion is to move this topic to main Wallet Software board, since we can all see several desktop wallets on your website. You can also add few more software wallets like Unstoppable.money, and divide them into android and desktop category. I will think about more good wallets later and post them here. |
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September 04, 2023, 11:15:17 PM |
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I see you decided to expand your website from only hardware wallets to software wallets and other bitcoin related stuff. My suggestion is to move this topic to main Wallet Software board, since we can all see several desktop wallets on your website. You can also add few more software wallets like Unstoppable.money, and divide them into android and desktop category. I will think about more good wallets later and post them here. Yes, I picked the wrong board. Any way to move the topic or I need to start a new one? For now I am focusing on btc-only wallets. |
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September 04, 2023, 11:19:46 PM |
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For now I am focusing on btc-only wallets.
If you scroll down, you will see move topic at the left side. But this thread is already on the wallet software board. |
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Moved the topic to the new board.
Also added Envoy wallet to the comparison.
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Good list, is the code open source or are there plans to translate it, I can help with that if possible. Since we are talking about crypto-software-wallets, there is no need to mention LAUNCH YEAR/COMPANY/HEADQUARTERS/X (TWITTER),...etc - In LIGHTNING NETWORK, I would like to add whether it is non-custodial or custodial - No need to add a QR Scanner - There is no need to add APP LOCK as this feature is present in most phones and can be activated even if the software-wallet does not support it. I almost liked the PRIVATE KEYS section, it's the first time I've found such details. There is an extended list by ---> https://walletscrutiny.com/ you can check out. |
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September 05, 2023, 10:48:28 AM |
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Well done on the site! It's a little difficult to fit all the categories even on a big screen, but that just means you did a thorough job.
A few notes on partial support: Wasabi has partial support for QR code scanning (Windows and Linux only, not Mac) and partial support for Taproot (seed import and internal addresses only, external addresses are always Segwitv0).
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September 05, 2023, 12:07:59 PM |
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Good list, is the code open source or are there plans to translate it, I can help with that if possible.
Sorry, for now, no plans to open source it. Since we are talking about crypto-software-wallets, there is no need to mention LAUNCH YEAR/COMPANY/HEADQUARTERS/X (TWITTER),...etc
Why not? - In LIGHTNING NETWORK, I would like to add whether it is non-custodial or custodial
This could be a good addition. - There is no need to add APP LOCK as this feature is present in most phones and can be activated even if the software-wallet does not support it.
I disagree, it's very important to have an app lock as an extra protection. Also, take into account that some wallets are for desktop. And the app lock is usually related with an encryption of the keys on the device. |
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