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September 04, 2023, 07:39:08 PM
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What would be the best option if a friend who happens to be good at horse racing lost his fortune coming from betting in horse racing because of illness and came to you and asked for a loan and honestly stated that he wants to use it betting in horse racing to recover his fortune.

But you have doubts because he is away betting horse racing for a long period of time and he might lose the money because you have to be updated on the conditions of the horses, jockeys, and the many handicaps, and his anxiety about recovering his fortune might fail he offers you two options loan him money or just partner with him.

What's your best course of action in this scenario?

A common friend confided this to me.

As a friend, I do not want to take advantage of the person's situation so I guess I'll go with partnering with him since it would be both beneficial for both of us if ever he still have the knacks for analyzing the horse races.  He won't owe anything to me if he losses and at the same time, I would get a better pay if we win.  But if he insisted of loans then loan it is, I would let him borrow some money to kickstart his comeback to horse racing.
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September 04, 2023, 07:45:17 PM
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This is one thing that have ended a few friendships because a friend took a loan refused to later pay the loan or couldn't afford to pay as earlier promised. I don't loan money to my friends let alone to the one I am quite aware of that he's a gambler and has put it in clear terms to me that he needs the loan for gambling to recover his lost fortune. This is same as chasing losses which we all know it doesn't end well.

Like I earlier said I don't give loan to my friends, it's either I can be generous to freely give him half of the amount he needs in disguise of loaning him so he doesn't take it for granted in the way he utilize it. The reality is that if he loses that money to a bet which is possible he can lose it weighing all odds anyway, you are cool with him not been able to pay you back because in the preceding you actually gave it as a free gift to him.  If he doesn't have any source now to finance his bet where will he get the source to pay your loan if given?
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September 04, 2023, 07:59:35 PM
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What would be the best option if a friend who happens to be good at horse racing lost his fortune coming from betting in horse racing because of illness and came to you and asked for a loan and honestly stated that he wants to use it betting in horse racing to recover his fortune.

But you have doubts because he is away betting horse racing for a long period of time and he might lose the money because you have to be updated on the conditions of the horses, jockeys, and the many handicaps, and his anxiety about recovering his fortune might fail he offers you two options loan him money or just partner with him.

What's your best course of action in this scenario?

A common friend confided this to me.
There's no other ideal question to that but it would really be a "NO" or simply just reject out his request and pretend that you dont have money to be spared or make use in gambling or giving him some loan.

You wont really be that so dumb on letting your friend borrowed seeing that the extreme desperation is there and the worst that it is really that would be used on gambling which we know that the risks is high.
Better to reject or deny such request if you dont really like such headache on trying to think about being getting repaid. You would really just rather creating a possible problem which would be giving out some gaps in between you and your friend. So better tell him about having no money and better giving him some advise that it wont really be ideal on having that kind of desperation in towards on getting his money back
via betting, no matter how good you are on which you would really be definitely having those chances of losing and would bust it all.

I would rather advise him about on skipping out that kind of idea because it would really make things worst when it comes to finances.If he had a nice track record on betting then it
would really be still your choice whether you would proceed or not.

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September 04, 2023, 08:56:49 PM
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What would be the best option if a friend who happens to be good at horse racing lost his fortune coming from betting in horse racing because of illness and came to you and asked for a loan and honestly stated that he wants to use it betting in horse racing to recover his fortune.

But you have doubts because he is away betting horse racing for a long period of time and he might lose the money because you have to be updated on the conditions of the horses, jockeys, and the many handicaps, and his anxiety about recovering his fortune might fail he offers you two options loan him money or just partner with him.

What's your best course of action in this scenario?

A common friend confided this to me.

Sometimes in life; humans are bound to be overzealous, lose it and then become over desperate to right the wrongs; in situations like this, we humans need our "friend" to speak some sense into us, calm us down, offer encouragement and show us that being desperate will put us in further troubles.

Your friend in this situation has lost it; and the help he needs is not a loan; but some comfort. Why do i say this? My number 1 rule in gambling is never to borrow to gamble; and theres one funny thing about gambling; if you lose your composure, you lose everything.

Best course of action is to help your friend recover from his pain, anguish and self blame, help him regain his normal self and then he can win the war! (He only lost a battle)
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September 04, 2023, 09:34:46 PM
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I won't lend money to a friend and I won't partner with him with his horse racing activities.  Instead, I give him some money that I can afford to give to help him with his needs.  Since I have a bad experience in loaning people and at the same time had been scammed of my money in partnering with a friend, I will not give this friend a chance to commit sin that can stain our friendship.  I won't consent his gambling activities by providing or loaning him funds for his gambling needs, instead, as I stated earlier,  I would give him some money to help for his personal needs.

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September 04, 2023, 09:44:36 PM
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..emmm, you've not made specificities on whether or not your friend recovered from his illness though buh, if he didn't, then I'll have to administer some personal treatments First, then sit him down and tell him what he needs to hear - I can't lend anyone funds to gamble for any reason... That's not an internal revenue platform, or a sort of disbursement fund - it's way more different.

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September 04, 2023, 09:52:42 PM
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I won't lend money to a friend and I won't partner with him with his horse racing activities.  Instead, I give him some money that I can afford to give to help him with his needs.  Since I have a bad experience in loaning people and at the same time had been scammed of my money in partnering with a friend, I will not give this friend a chance to commit sin that can stain our friendship.  I won't consent his gambling activities by providing or loaning him funds for his gambling needs, instead, as I stated earlier,  I would give him some money to help for his personal needs.
You wont really be that skeptical on the time that you would be lending out some amounts acts as a help specially on his treatment but in speaking on making use of it on gambling then you would really be that hesitating
on what he might do which just like the rest been saying that it wont really be that ideal on doing or lending him some money because you do see that he's really that eager to play again and dont mind about his maintenance or medication if ever he had been that still on such condition. So its better to give out some piece of advise on making things more better or arrange first before minding anything else specially on gambling.

Giving him a loan turns out that you are tolerating them and also do you really like on lending him money even if you do know that he cant pay it up on time? even if he does but still its not a good idea on spending loan
money on gambling and there's so much things or important matters which needs to be worked first before gambling or leisure times. As a friend then it would really be that ideal and something commendable
if you would be explaining things on what are the things that he should mind first.

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September 04, 2023, 10:16:38 PM
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What would be the best option if a friend who happens to be good at horse racing lost his fortune coming from betting in horse racing because of illness and came to you and asked for a loan and honestly stated that he wants to use it betting in horse racing to recover his fortune.
That’s why it’s better to have another source of income as a gambler, and you shouldn’t depend on only gambling for survival. If your friend has other sources of income, I'm sure he will be able to generate money from there, and he will be able to start all over again, but it’s just risky to take a loan to win back his fortune, which I don’t really recommend people do. I don’t recommend people take a loan to gamble even if they are professional gambler and they have been winning for a long term.
 
Since he is your friend, the decision is left for you to make, but if you are giving him the money, then you should keep in mind that anything can happen to the money that you loan him, and I don’t really know how the partnership aspect is going to look.

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September 04, 2023, 11:03:59 PM
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You can't partner with him without supporting him with funds. It is funds the guy need and not encouragement. So if your mind tell you to support him with the funds then do it. But is it physical bet or prediction? If it is physical betting I will advise him to stop the game for sometimes to regain himself fully before going to join the race again. But if it is prediction then you can loan him to play the game but put at the back your mind that, he has an alternative way to pay back the loan if he looses.  If not your money stock there.

He's good in the horse race and yet he didn't win big upon all the games had played and that was why there was nooney in his pocket when he sick and if he was a successful racer, money won't be his problem after the sickness. Or he would have easily taking the loan from his competitors if they know that he was good. And since he was not a successful racer even this loan, there is no guarantee that he will win. So you better look for an alternative way for him to restart the race and not the loan. Don't take loan tto gamble.









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September 04, 2023, 11:33:48 PM
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if a person keeps placing bets and the entire bank goes bankrupt, then it's because that person can't win, so that person should stop playing immediately, I know it's painful and even when we say this to people it may sound rude, But we have to analyze things carefully, why would a gambler go bankrupt? The answer is simple: because this person is not able to place bets correctly and manage their bankroll correctly, imagine that you have a friend who has $100,000 in bankroll and keeps placing horse bets, after 3 months your friend looks for you and tells you he lost everything betting on horses

This means that your friend lost 100,000$ and if he had any gains then we would already be talking about losses of more than 100,000$, so your friend asked you to borrow 2000$ to go back to betting on horses, I ask you: if your friend with $100,000 bank was unable to make a profit and went bankrupt, so $2000 would change anything? the answer and it wouldn't change anything, he would lose everything again. The most recommended thing is that you as a friend should do in these cases and tell the person who is placing horse bets to stop betting immediately, you should not lend them money to continue playing because by doing so

you will be helping him become addicted to gambling, when a person cannot stop gambling even though he sees that he doesn't win anything and is bankrupt, then that's when that person is addicted to gambling. There is no other name, this is called addiction and it needs to be treated with greater urgency before it reaches much more serious proportions in the lives of other people in the family and friends, today they ask for money to continue playing, tomorrow they will steal money to continue playing and a day will come in which you can die because of gambling

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September 04, 2023, 11:38:18 PM
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What's your best course of action in this scenario?

A common friend confided this to me.

Regardless of the reason why he's taking a loan, you know your friend more than us.

Is he capable of paying back the loan?
Has he turned down you at his promises even once?
How do you trust him in his words?

If you ask that question in the community, many might say that don't give him a loan. We can't give you any better advice. That common friend of yours is only known by you including his behavior, personality, traits, and many more. Only you can decide what to do, not us.
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September 04, 2023, 11:53:10 PM
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Dude has anxiety over losing his fortune in horse racing, would you really loan that guy or partner with him considering that he might make bad decisions due to his vengeful nature? I won't. That will be my help for him as a friend by not giving him anything because it will just ruin his life and his own health by gambling again.
The gambling industry has a stressful nature and whenever we experience losses, we tend to think hard about regretting our decisions. By partnering with him you just put yourself in the same position as him and soon both of you will have the same stressful environment which leads to disaster.
Help him on other ways, not like this or whatever is in your options.
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September 04, 2023, 11:58:54 PM
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What's your best course of action in this scenario?

A common friend confided this to me.

Regardless of the reason why he's taking a loan, you know your friend more than us.

Is he capable of paying back the loan?
Has he turned down you at his promises even once?
How do you trust him in his words?

If you ask that question in the community, many might say that don't give him a loan. We can't give you any better advice. That common friend of yours is only known by you including his behavior, personality, traits, and many more. Only you can decide what to do, not us.
Some friend wont really be minding whether he would be repaid back or not by his friend and there are really those people who are really that prepared or really that willing to help their friend at need but basing up

on the situation then this is basically a call for gambling urge and income or profit making on which you could really feel out the desperation deep inside which it would really be that resulting into further losses
as you would really be that desperate when it comes into your actions.If you are that someone who would really be that thinking up that way as a friend then you could really just simply tell him some recommendations on what things should be done rather than on spending.

I agree that playing gambling with a loan is never been that ideal.You are really that putting yourself into so much trouble or deep debt on the time that you would be busting up  yourself
that hard into this industry. Partner with him doesnt have no point because you are just simply tolerating him on what the things he do want and ending up for you to support his needs
and funding towards gambling which it doesnt make sense.

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September 05, 2023, 12:09:55 AM
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What would be the best option if a friend who happens to be good at horse racing lost his fortune coming from betting in horse racing because of illness and came to you and asked for a loan and honestly stated that he wants to use it betting in horse racing to recover his fortune.

But you have doubts because he is away betting horse racing for a long period of time and he might lose the money because you have to be updated on the conditions of the horses, jockeys, and the many handicaps, and his anxiety about recovering his fortune might fail he offers you two options loan him money or just partner with him.

What's your best course of action in this scenario?

A common friend confided this to me.
Neither giving loan nor partnering with him. Told him to get money before trying to continue to bet on it. Giving him a loan will be a disaster for you as you he can also become your enemy. Another scenario to consider is that your friend may try to deceive you if you decide to partner with them. I don't even see those options were good. Told him to get a job and get money from working on his job is far better. He shall have stopped to bet once he running out of money in his pocket.

I would rather than give him advice. It will be only destroying the relationship between you and your friend if you were doing one of those options. This is based on my actual life experience.

It would be good if he wins the game, but what is happening if he will lose it? The decision is yours.

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First of all, it is your friend. Try to explain to him what is happening and why the risk of doing it is so huge. Try to persuade him not to do it because it can make his situation worse. Now for sure, he will still not be listening to you, so if ever you do have extra money, I will let him borrow it, but with less value, and let him know that his strategy is not working now so he can experience it and possibly make his eyes wide open.
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First of all, it is your friend. Try to explain to him what is happening and why the risk of doing it is so huge. Try to persuade him not to do it because it can make his situation worse. Now for sure, he will still not be listening to you, so if ever you do have extra money, I will let him borrow it, but with less value, and let him know that his strategy is not working now so he can experience it and possibly make his eyes wide open.

I can also do this but how much of the amount to give to him is what I would actually have 2nd thoughts. $1000 is even too much for me but will this test result to enlightenment on his mind?

When a person is somfixated with their idea sometimes even with the intention to help, its us that looked not supportive to him. For me, $100 might just be right for him to see everyone is in crisis today so don't make it worse.


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September 05, 2023, 03:06:09 AM
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What would be the best option if a friend who happens to be good at horse racing lost his fortune coming from betting in horse racing because of illness and came to you and asked for a loan and honestly stated that he wants to use it betting in horse racing to recover his fortune.
The fact that he will just use the money (that I will lend to him) in gambling, makes me hesitate to give him a loan. Regardless what form of gambling he is good at, it is still gambling and not guaranteed.

Therefore, I will just give him money as a help for his illness and not to use in horse racing. Even let's say he is good in horse racing, but you can never be so sure that you're still good like what you used to before since it's been a while. Moreover, in gambling, you need luck to win, so I will advice this friend to look for other ways to earn money rather than relying on gambling to get his fortune back.

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September 05, 2023, 04:21:24 AM
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What's your best course of action in this scenario?

A common friend confided this to me.
I would reject his request to borrow money because I don't know how much money he's planning to borrow and even the good bettors can still go through a bad patch of losses, so you never know when he can pay it back. I might partner with him through his horse racing bets because it can be a fun hobby, as I used to follow horse bettors a few times. Also, it's tough to lend money to a friend because it could burn bridges, and i'd prefer helping in another way after i've had bad past experiences with lending money to a friend.

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September 05, 2023, 04:30:39 AM
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First I would thank him for his honesty and statement that he will keep on gambling money with loan. I wouldn't give him lecture but I would share my opinions about gambling with loaned money and that I don't want to give him. I would only suggest him to get back on his feet (symbolically) and earn money through different income methods. I would suggest him to gamble with money only he owns. That's pretty much it. I value my friendships.
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September 05, 2023, 04:38:46 AM
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What would be the best option if a friend who happens to be good at horse racing lost his fortune coming from betting in horse racing because of illness and came to you and asked for a loan and honestly stated that he wants to use it betting in horse racing to recover his fortune.

But you have doubts because he is away betting horse racing for a long period of time and he might lose the money because you have to be updated on the conditions of the horses, jockeys, and the many handicaps, and his anxiety about recovering his fortune might fail he offers you two options loan him money or just partner with him.

What's your best course of action in this scenario?

A common friend confided this to me.
If I am honest with you I do not like to mix business and friends, as this seems like a good combination but when you actually try this it ends in disaster, on the surface it may seem like a good idea to give a loan to your friend as you could make more than your seed money, but even good gamblers lose money and this could strain your relationship, besides unless you were completely sure they lost their money because of a disease I would be suspicious they lost their money gambling and they are just looking for someone to fund them instead.
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