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[3kpk3]

Just found this thread and absolutely loved the ANN presentation though the site design is alright and needs more improvement. It's good to see how responsive you are in thread op and I hope you stand by whatever you stated regarding KYC.

Also, I observed that the sportsbook section only lists soccer events and I feel more sports markets need to be added asap.

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[AndriesW.]

I repeat, KYC from Cryptoplay is not made for players who play fair.

Do, you mean if I have only one single account and I don't have anything unfair then you will not ask me for know your customer information? If yes, then it will be good for me and others and hopefully think you will get more and more audience.

You understood perfectly.

I repeat, KYC from Cryptoplay is not made for players who play fair.

Do, you mean if I have only one single account and I don't have anything unfair then you will not ask me for know your customer information? If yes, then it will be good for me and others and hopefully think you will get more and more audience.

Their term about KYC is interesting for those who do not like mandatory KYC including me but it is obvious that having this good point is not enough to get more audience. I just explored a bit especially the VIP club page, unfortunately I have to say that their offer (level up bonus) seems to be the lowest one compared to other casinos with the same level up bonus scheme. Maybe it is because of their level up rakeback and cashback system. Anyway I also checked their $2M race, the current leader has wagered less than $2M with possible prize of $500k. Seems that there are not too many whales at the moment in this casino. It is actually good opportunity to be one of the 100 winners compared to other races in other casinos where the competition is tougher.

The bonuses for level up are worth $1,000,000, and the climb is very fast for the first few dozen levels.
You always benefit from Rakeboost with which you have up to 12% more Rakeback depending on your deposits.
Rakeback and Cashback are instant, you don't need to wait for the "cashback day".
It's the first round of Race and Rise to Riches, before we had another contest where the total prizes were $500,000 and only 10 players were awarded.
Now we reward the first 100 players and so far the result is satisfactory.

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Welcome to the forum! It seems that we have another operator entering the crypto gambling space to compete. So far, I am impressed with everything that I have read. The OP seems very professional and knowledgeable about what he or she is doing. The playmoney feature that "generates" CPC is also a good idea. But... how much do these BM tokens cost when bought? That should be less than $1, isn't it? Or am I missing something?

There's a typo in the OP's post, specifically in the part about the 3rd deposit bonus. Best of luck!.

BM Token can also be bought, we have different packages in our store at https://cryptoplay.io/buy-bm

Just found this thread and absolutely loved the ANN presentation though the site design is alright and needs more improvement. It's good to see how responsive you are in thread op and I hope you stand by whatever you stated regarding KYC.

Also, I observed that the sportsbook section only lists soccer events and I feel more sports markets need to be added asap.

Sportsbook is still under development, we have integrated all the sports but not yet for the public. In the shortest time we will add new sports.

[yahoo62278]

Sportsbook is still under development, we have integrated all the sports but not yet for the public. In the shortest time we will add new sports.

You are losing $$$ by not having the major sports available to bet on. Currently NCAA and NFL football are going right now and lots love to bet them. Is there an ETA on when more sports will be available?

[Slow death]

welcome to the forum, your casino has a very beautiful designer, I see that you have also gotten used to the forum, I searched about your casino on Google and saw this on casino.guro:



https://casino.guru/cryptoplay-casino-review

From what I understand, casino.guro says that a license was listed in your casino that casino.guro was unable to verify whether it was true, this means that when casino.guro tried to verify at the source whether your license existed and was true, in source your license did not appear, so casino.guro raised the possibility of it being a fake license. well, it turns out that some members asked you in this thread why your casino didn't have a license, that's because these members didn't see a license in your casino and you said that your casino didn't have a license because you don't ask for kyc. But the question here is this:

7. Know your Customer (“KYC”)

Cryptoplay reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Cryptoplay reserves the right to restrict the Service, payment, or withdrawal until identity is sufficiently determined, or for any other reason in Cryptoplay’s sole discretion. Cryptoplay also reserves the right to disclose a User’s information as appropriate to comply with legal process or as otherwise permitted by the privacy policy of Cryptoplay, and by using the Service, you acknowledge and consent to the possibility of such disclosure.

source: https://cryptoplay.io/help/terms-of-service

when people create an account at your casino, they are agreeing with your TOS, even if you in this forum keep saying that you will not ask for kyc at your casino, yet at your casino the TOS says the opposite and what counts is not your word, but what is in your TOS. Since you don't have a license and have no intention of asking your customers for kyc, then why didn't you remove this part about kyc from your TOS?

Now returning to the issue of the license that casino.guro says it had in your casino they were unable to verify the veracity of the license and for that reason they suspect that it was a fake license, I found this in your casino's TOS:

15. Governing Law

Governing Law

The Agreement and any matters relating hereto shall be governed by, and construed under, the laws of Curaçao. You irrevocably agree that subject as provided below, the courts of Curaçao shall have exclusive jurisdiction concerning any claim, dispute, or difference concerning the Agreement and any matter arising therefrom and irrevocably waive any right that it may have to object to an action being brought in those courts, or to claim that the action has been brought in an inconvenient forum, or that those courts do not have jurisdiction. Nothing in this clause shall limit the right of Cryptoplay to take proceedings against you in any other court of competent jurisdiction, nor shall the taking of proceedings in any one or more jurisdictions preclude the taking of proceedings in any other jurisdictions, whether concurrently or not, to the extent permitted by the law of such other jurisdiction.

source: https://cryptoplay.io/help/terms-of-service

This means that before you had a license at your casino and casino.guro was unable to verify this license. You don't have a Curacao license, so why don't you remove this whole part? I have not seen any accusations of scams against your casino that you have not promptly responded to on trustpilot, this clearly shows your casino's good intentions. Therefore, the only error that I see that needs to be corrected is in your TOS, you should remove these parts of the KYC and the part where it talks about the Curacao government, because you do not have a Curacao license. I wish your casino every success

It is displayed on the website for each slot, the maximum win in Slots is $50,000 per spin.


I did not have a license and not now there is no license for Cryptoplay, I said in previous posts.
Why would I put a fake sticker on the site which can be verified?
Casino.Guru is probably referring to the fact that they did not find a license on the site, I don't think they meant that they found a license on the site and it was not valid.

One of the license requirements is mandatory KYC. We do not require mandatory KYC, it is optional.
We usually ask for KYC from those who abuse such as multiple accounts, sale of accounts, double spend transactions, etc.
As a note, in 2 and a half years of operation we have requested KYC from a maximum of 15 users.

I agree with you, the Terms of Service need to be redone and I will take care of modifying them these days. Unfortunately, I cannot delete the KYC part because it helps me not to be "scammed".
There were withdrawals on Cryptoplay of $100,000 in a single transaction and that user has not even completed step 1 of KYC.
I repeat, KYC from Cryptoplay is not made for players who play fair.

I had already forgotten about this thread, you don't have a license in Curacao. but without a license, have asked some of your clients for kyc in the past, who according to you only ask for kyc in cases of suspicion , but the problem with this is that as long as you do not have a license, it means that according to the laws, your casino operates illegally and should not ask for documents from anyone, this is a crime for someone to ask people for documents when that same someone does not have any government authorizing them to do so.

See, I really don't care about licenses, I even think that it doesn't even make any sense for governments to force casinos to ask for KYC and have licenses, given that governments haven't put laws on cryptocurrencies and respectable countries don't easily give licenses to cryptocurrency casinos and casinos have a Curacao license is for just the government can see that at least they have a license and can now ask for KYC. So in my opinion you have two options:

1 - you have a Curacao license and only ask for kyc in case of suspicious activities like what you have been doing, and of course things like phone number, name, country and city people must enter this true data

2 - if you don't want to have a license, then you can create other ways to catch cheaters, but asking for kyc without a license is illegal. Well, I'm not a lawyer and I'm not an expert in international law, so I could be wrong in everything I said. In any case, I don't see your casino with bad intentions, the most important thing is that people play and get paid.

[Haunebu]

Sportsbook is still under development, we have integrated all the sports but not yet for the public. In the shortest time we will add new sports.

Is your team optimising the sportsbook or something? Because I fail to understand why the complete sportsbook isn't available to the public yet when all sports markets are integrated already.

As @yahoo mentioned above, an ETA for the complete sportsbook section would be helpful since I am mostly interested in this part of your site.

[Eureka_07]

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It is safe to say that most gamblers prefer not being asked for KYC verification. On contrary, they tend to go more on casinos that are licensed. How would you deal with that? I read at one of your posts that you may have to consider it if it is a "must", but I don't think that it is really needed. Follow up question is... how would you able to get the trust of the community if they do not know your identity? I am asking because some players feels more secured if they know who the operator is.

[zTec]

I repeat, KYC from Cryptoplay is not made for players who play fair.

Do, you mean if I have only one single account and I don't have anything unfair then you will not ask me for know your customer information? If yes, then it will be good for me and others and hopefully think you will get more and more audience.

Interesting. I was asked for KYC on Saturday. I registered on Cryptoplay 14 days ago. So far, I have had a total of 10 deposits and three withdrawals. I made the fourth withdrawal on Saturday and after that they asked me for KYC. I sent all the documents they asked for and after that they don't reply. Yesterday I asked in the chat what the problem was, and I got the answer that my account is under investigation. I never got an answer to my question about why and what type of investigation. This morning I asked the question again in the live chat and I got the answer that I have to be patient because their sports provider does not work on weekends. I only bet in the sportsbook, not in the casino. I only have this account, I deposit and withdraw through my Binance account. I don't know how it can be more honest than this. There is absolutely no need to open multiple accounts at Cryptoplay because they do not have bonuses that are profitable for the player in the long run.
The only problem I see here is that after 14 days I am several hundred dollars in profit. I can't even imagine what would happen if I was among the top 10 players in the Race And Rise To Riches for 2 million dollars if the casino had a problem with my $800 payout

[AndriesW.]

I repeat, KYC from Cryptoplay is not made for players who play fair.

Do, you mean if I have only one single account and I don't have anything unfair then you will not ask me for know your customer information? If yes, then it will be good for me and others and hopefully think you will get more and more audience.

Interesting. I was asked for KYC on Saturday. I registered on Cryptoplay 14 days ago. So far, I have had a total of 10 deposits and three withdrawals. I made the fourth withdrawal on Saturday and after that they asked me for KYC. I sent all the documents they asked for and after that they don't reply. Yesterday I asked in the chat what the problem was, and I got the answer that my account is under investigation. I never got an answer to my question about why and what type of investigation. This morning I asked the question again in the live chat and I got the answer that I have to be patient because their sports provider does not work on weekends. I only bet in the sportsbook, not in the casino. I only have this account, I deposit and withdraw through my Binance account. I don't know how it can be more honest than this. There is absolutely no need to open multiple accounts at Cryptoplay because they do not have bonuses that are profitable for the player in the long run.
The only problem I see here is that after 14 days I am several hundred dollars in profit. I can't even imagine what would happen if I was among the top 10 players in the Race And Rise To Riches for 2 million dollars if the casino had a problem with my $800 payout

You have just received an answer regarding your problem. Some of your bets are subject to arbitration, which is totally prohibited in Sportsbetting. If you have more deposits than withdrawals then I will return all your deposits but overall you are in profit, from arbitration which is prohibited. $800 cannot be a problem for a casino that has been active for almost 3 years with a fairly large player base.

I am open to discuss more details with you on Telegram at https://t.me/andries_cryptoplay

[zTec]

You have just received an answer regarding your problem. Some of your bets are subject to arbitration, which is totally prohibited in Sportsbetting. If you have more deposits than withdrawals then I will return all your deposits but overall you are in profit, from arbitration which is prohibited.

This is the most amazing thing I have heard so far in my career as a bettor, and I have been betting for over 20 years. So if I have more winning bets than losing bets you can void all my bets? And when I lose, then everything is fine?
What kind of arbitration are you talking about? At Cryptoplay you only have prematch, no live betting, no cashout. So how can I arbitrate?

[AndriesW.]

You have just received an answer regarding your problem. Some of your bets are subject to arbitration, which is totally prohibited in Sportsbetting. If you have more deposits than withdrawals then I will return all your deposits but overall you are in profit, from arbitration which is prohibited.

This is the most amazing thing I have heard so far in my career as a bettor, and I have been betting for over 20 years. So if I have more winning bets than losing bets you can void all my bets? And when I lose, then everything is fine?
What kind of arbitration are you talking about? At Cryptoplay you only have prematch, no live betting, no cashout. So how can I arbitrate?

The provider that offers us the odds also offers to other sports betting agencies, unfortunately, this is their answer regarding your bets.
Arbitrage means that you bet on all possible variants, namely 1,2, or x with 3 different tickets, whatever happens in that event, you have a profit.
If you have been a bettor for 20 years, you must know what arbitration means.
As I said, if you lost money at Cryptoplay, it will be returned to you in full, but unfortunately, your account can no longer be used.

[cryptolists]

When is the support open? It says 12 hours a day, but is it U.S eastern time (EST) or some other time zone?
Would be nice to hear from an affiliate manager and discuss what we can do together. Could be interesting to do something with Crypto Play..

[cryptolists]

Can you please shed some light on the contract address for the CoinPlay token (CPC)? I've been searching for quite a while, and it's very hard to find that rather new token. Many got CPC as an abbreviation and this one doesn't show up yet.

[zTec]

People, run as far away from Cryptoplay as possible. It is the biggest scam in the betting world that I have seen in the last 20 years.

Yesterday they stole all the profit I made on sports betting with the ridiculous explanation that I used arbitrage with another service, but they couldn't provide me with any proof. Apparently, their sports provider has that evidence, but they don't even want to tell me the name of that provider.
If you take a closer look at their competitions and rankings in the casino, you will see that there are very few players. I managed with a rollover of only 6000 dollars (everything was played in the sportsbook) to enter the 80th place of the ranking list in which they supposedly share 2 million dollars. Don't be naive...

[AndriesW.]

People, run as far away from Cryptoplay as possible. It is the biggest scam in the betting world that I have seen in the last 20 years.

Yesterday they stole all the profit I made on sports betting with the ridiculous explanation that I used arbitrage with another service, but they couldn't provide me with any proof. Apparently, their sports provider has that evidence, but they don't even want to tell me the name of that provider.
If you take a closer look at their competitions and rankings in the casino, you will see that there are very few players. I managed with a rollover of only 6000 dollars (everything was played in the sportsbook) to enter the 80th place of the ranking list in which they supposedly share 2 million dollars. Don't be naive...

You have broken serious rules and as it says in our terms and conditions, "We reserve the right to permanently ban/suspend your account and forfeit your winnings/funds for any type of arbitrage."
Despite all that, I sent you back the money you deposited, even a little more.
I don't want to argue with you here on the forum, I will leave some screenshots from our conversation on Telegram to understand what your goal actually is.




https://tronscan.org/#/transaction/b5f1b3c21dd24b97846c704ffecc3f8508b63de1d63b27e3cead3161db019eca

I apologize to the members of this forum for this situation.

Can you please shed some light on the contract address for the CoinPlay token (CPC)? I've been searching for quite a while, and it's very hard to find that rather new token. Many got CPC as an abbreviation and this one doesn't show up yet.

CPC is our in-house cryptocurrency and its value is equivalent to 1 USD. CPCs are given as a deposit bonus. You can use CPC for playing any games on our platform or you can exchange unlocked CPC to other coins using our exchange function at any time.

[LEVSKI7]

People, run as far away from Cryptoplay as possible. It is the biggest scam in the betting world that I have seen in the last 20 years.

Yesterday they stole all the profit I made on sports betting with the ridiculous explanation that I used arbitrage with another service, but they couldn't provide me with any proof. Apparently, their sports provider has that evidence, but they don't even want to tell me the name of that provider.
If you take a closer look at their competitions and rankings in the casino, you will see that there are very few players. I managed with a rollover of only 6000 dollars (everything was played in the sportsbook) to enter the 80th place of the ranking list in which they supposedly share 2 million dollars. Don't be naive...

Criminals. it's a pity that the justice system has a hard time catching them in Curacao. it's unpleasant that these crooks cheat with impunity

[abel1337]

People, run as far away from Cryptoplay as possible. It is the biggest scam in the betting world that I have seen in the last 20 years.

Yesterday they stole all the profit I made on sports betting with the ridiculous explanation that I used arbitrage with another service, but they couldn't provide me with any proof. Apparently, their sports provider has that evidence, but they don't even want to tell me the name of that provider.
If you take a closer look at their competitions and rankings in the casino, you will see that there are very few players. I managed with a rollover of only 6000 dollars (everything was played in the sportsbook) to enter the 80th place of the ranking list in which they supposedly share 2 million dollars. Don't be naive...

OP had easily countered your claims with a simple screenshot they had posted here. If you are confident with your claim against this casino, you can post a scam accusation in the proper board and make sure to put some screenshots. You are lucky enough that OP is willing to return the differences despite the explanation about the the violation you had made. Though I'm still not sure who is telling the truth since no one had provided some strong evidences between both of your claims.

[zTec]

People, run as far away from Cryptoplay as possible. It is the biggest scam in the betting world that I have seen in the last 20 years.

Yesterday they stole all the profit I made on sports betting with the ridiculous explanation that I used arbitrage with another service, but they couldn't provide me with any proof. Apparently, their sports provider has that evidence, but they don't even want to tell me the name of that provider.
If you take a closer look at their competitions and rankings in the casino, you will see that there are very few players. I managed with a rollover of only 6000 dollars (everything was played in the sportsbook) to enter the 80th place of the ranking list in which they supposedly share 2 million dollars. Don't be naive...

OP had easily countered your claims with a simple screenshot they had posted here. If you are confident with your claim against this casino, you can post a scam accusation in the proper board and make sure to put some screenshots. You are lucky enough that OP is willing to return the differences despite the explanation about the the violation you had made. Though I'm still not sure who is telling the truth since no one had provided some strong evidences between both of your claims.

Of course I will publish a scam accusation because I do not intend to stand against a house that has unfair practices. I have screen shots of all my bets, deposits and withdrawals. Cryptoplay can't prove anything because they don't have any evidence. It was confirmed to me that through my personal data that I submitted to them for verification, they allegedly managed to get data on which services (sportsbooks) I have registered accounts on. I am even willing to go so far as to publicly publish a list of my bets from all sportsbooks where I have open accounts and everyone will be able to see that I did not do arbitrage.
If the casino (sportsbook) has solid evidence against the player, then it must also present it, and Cryptoplay does not do that. The OP just says that their sports provider has the proof.
It's funny, they don't have any sports provider, they only publish odds for a dozen football matches every day. They certainly don't need a sports provider for that. After all, the OP wrote this in post #12, which clearly means that they do not have any sports provider or third party: "Cryptoplay is a more classic crypto casino, every game is made by us, especially the sports."

They simply have no money and need new naive players. People, run away from them...

[AndriesW.]

People, run as far away from Cryptoplay as possible. It is the biggest scam in the betting world that I have seen in the last 20 years.

Yesterday they stole all the profit I made on sports betting with the ridiculous explanation that I used arbitrage with another service, but they couldn't provide me with any proof. Apparently, their sports provider has that evidence, but they don't even want to tell me the name of that provider.
If you take a closer look at their competitions and rankings in the casino, you will see that there are very few players. I managed with a rollover of only 6000 dollars (everything was played in the sportsbook) to enter the 80th place of the ranking list in which they supposedly share 2 million dollars. Don't be naive...

OP had easily countered your claims with a simple screenshot they had posted here. If you are confident with your claim against this casino, you can post a scam accusation in the proper board and make sure to put some screenshots. You are lucky enough that OP is willing to return the differences despite the explanation about the the violation you had made. Though I'm still not sure who is telling the truth since no one had provided some strong evidences between both of your claims.

Of course I will publish a scam accusation because I do not intend to stand against a house that has unfair practices. I have screen shots of all my bets, deposits and withdrawals. Cryptoplay can't prove anything because they don't have any evidence. It was confirmed to me that through my personal data that I submitted to them for verification, they allegedly managed to get data on which services (sportsbooks) I have registered accounts on. I am even willing to go so far as to publicly publish a list of my bets from all sportsbooks where I have open accounts and everyone will be able to see that I did not do arbitrage.
If the casino (sportsbook) has solid evidence against the player, then it must also present it, and Cryptoplay does not do that. The OP just says that their sports provider has the proof.
It's funny, they don't have any sports provider, they only publish odds for a dozen football matches every day. They certainly don't need a sports provider for that. After all, the OP wrote this in post #12, which clearly means that they do not have any sports provider or third party: "Cryptoplay is a more classic crypto casino, every game is made by us, especially the sports."

They simply have no money and need new naive players. People, run away from them...

1. You make accusations for which you have no evidence to support them.
2. Sportsbook is made by us (sportsbooks from other casinos is an iFrame and has nothing to do with the site itself)
3. It is logical that we take the events from a provider (not the iFrame), or maybe you think that we have 200 mice that sit and create odds and all the events just for us.
4. The contract with this provider is based on percentage, so it has access to all the bets and informations of a player.
5. I have concluded this discussion with you and this is my last answer (it was seen in your messages what is your actual goal).

I officially ask those who are among the winners (many are members of this forum) of the Race and Rise to Riches competition to say if they have received their prizes or not, so that this speculation of yours can be refuted.

P.S. Rather than paying you the fee so that you don't make me "as negative as possible on the forums", I'd rather give him a giveaway or even do a signature campaign here on the forum.

[Wiwo]

People, run as far away from Cryptoplay as possible. It is the biggest scam in the betting world that I have seen in the last 20 years.

Yesterday they stole all the profit I made on sports betting with the ridiculous explanation that I used arbitrage with another service, but they couldn't provide me with any proof. Apparently, their sports provider has that evidence, but they don't even want to tell me the name of that provider.
If you take a closer look at their competitions and rankings in the casino, you will see that there are very few players. I managed with a rollover of only 6000 dollars (everything was played in the sportsbook) to enter the 80th place of the ranking list in which they supposedly share 2 million dollars. Don't be naive...

OP had easily countered your claims with a simple screenshot they had posted here. If you are confident with your claim against this casino, you can post a scam accusation in the proper board and make sure to put some screenshots. You are lucky enough that OP is willing to return the differences despite the explanation about the the violation you had made. Though I'm still not sure who is telling the truth since no one had provided some strong evidences between both of your claims.

Comments like this are expected either their be true or false bit the ultimate thing is that if the accuser have any proof to back the claim he should post them already but from the look of things,  the guy is just trying to cause some crisis in this thread unless he comes up with more evidence that his profits were all withdrawn as he said.

I had a run through the casino and I discovered that their sports bet section is not fully developed and is still under construction but this user mentioned that he won all the profits in sports bets so that is contradicting information that points us in a different direction.

[DaNNy001]

People, run as far away from Cryptoplay as possible. It is the biggest scam in the betting world that I have seen in the last 20 years.

Yesterday they stole all the profit I made on sports betting with the ridiculous explanation that I used arbitrage with another service, but they couldn't provide me with any proof. Apparently, their sports provider has that evidence, but they don't even want to tell me the name of that provider.
If you take a closer look at their competitions and rankings in the casino, you will see that there are very few players. I managed with a rollover of only 6000 dollars (everything was played in the sportsbook) to enter the 80th place of the ranking list in which they supposedly share 2 million dollars. Don't be naive...

OP had easily countered your claims with a simple screenshot they had posted here. If you are confident with your claim against this casino, you can post a scam accusation in the proper board and make sure to put some screenshots. You are lucky enough that OP is willing to return the differences despite the explanation about the the violation you had made. Though I'm still not sure who is telling the truth since no one had provided some strong evidences between both of your claims.

Comments like this are expected either their be true or false bit the ultimate thing is that if the accuser have any proof to back the claim he should post them already but from the look of things,  the guy is just trying to cause some crisis in this thread unless he comes up with more evidence that his profits were all withdrawn as he said.

I had a run through the casino and I discovered that their sports bet section is not fully developed and is still under construction but this user mentioned that he won all the profits in sports bets so that is contradicting information that points us in a different direction.

Contradicting indeed,but all the complaints of the accuser I think has been actually counter with the screenshot  provided by the OP and I think these stories of users getting their account is actually not a new thing anymore here in the forum and the most annoying part is that most of these so called accuser don't actually provide enough proofs to what they are actually try to claim and we all know how thats makes you look as a complainer. As you are trying to stand on a claim proofs is actually what gives you an edge over such cases because most casino tend to blame the players always where as most times latter is the case.