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October 30, 2023, 06:53:43 AM
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Yes, it is true that they will fulfill their lifestyle instead of basic needs with the latest products and brands attracting them to buy them because it is a condition of life now. to meet these needs they will try as much as possible so that they can buy and have them. Lifestyle expenditures that are greater than basic needs will certainly be a problem later, but they themselves will feel it and they will also run it. But they must be able to limit spending beyond the basics. sometimes they buy just because they want to, not prioritizing function.

The current lifestyle budget is so luxurious that some of them are even desperate to be able to fulfill it because the environment encourages it. The prestige that exists in themselves cannot be hidden naturally they will try to buy the latest products, that way they will be accepted in the current lifestyle environment that is all luxurious, maybe not all like that but in my opinion at this time most of them are like this. if they can have the latest products then they will be considered in the hangout and vice versa. It's true that you said they have to reduce budget expenditures that are not too important because it will damage their finances in the future, of course the future that must be prepared cannot just be ignored. So they have to manage their finances well so as not to be too wasteful.
nowadays even with earning of $100k a year, it will still not sufficient if someone lives a luxury, a luxury brand like supreme, dior and the likes are giving price tag to their products at really high prices while usually you can find same functioning goods at significantly lower prices. its matter of how someone contend against their own desire for luxurious goods, i've seen many that lived a simplistic life and be more happier.
but i also know someone that lives a luxury life and happy despite having debt which sometime make me confused how that didn't grow anxiety in their life but I guess some people just really have the mental aptitudes of having debt and still fine with it.
I personally would never buy something like those brand above and just prefer to have some local goods thats just cheaper while also have the same function.

Whereas if the income they get is limited and they force a luxurious lifestyle, of course this will burden them, the other side of people who have limited income but live simply they can live their daily lives calmly and happily. Forcing a luxurious lifestyle in my opinion is also not good because it will affect more important basic needs.

Some people who live a luxurious life are like that, maybe they can still manage their income well so they have debts that they can pay off in installments from their income. I agree with you, I prefer local goods and don't like to buy branded goods at high prices.

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October 30, 2023, 07:24:44 AM
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There’s are sayings ‘you always want what you can’t have’ & ‘the grass is always greener on the other side’ that sum up this conundrum perfectly. Human beings are never satisfied but in some ways that’s what makes us so different & more developed than other living organisms. We should always try to achieve more, it’s not a bad thing.
I prefer your opinion and I want to say that there is no end to the needs of people, whose lack of people is infinite Living a life that reconciles infinite scarcity with limited resources is real work Even if other animals get a lot, they cannot keep it in themselves due to lack of coordination, but humans are a little more advanced creatures who know how to balance and use the relationship Part of the salary should be saved and invested so that there is less reason to worry about the lifestyle in the days to come But it is not a bad idea to always earn more income but it should be done regularly then there will be more improvement and chances in life and you will help to meet many more needs.It's a natural process that a certain amount of salary can never make up for being successful or that the more money you're paid, the more you'll lack.For this, it is necessary to balance the salary through budgeting, separate the salary through the I&O process and use it for investment and expenditure.
It is true that human needs are endless the opportunity to meet the demand is limited so it is wise to limit the demand. Perfection of everything is not possible in earthly life those who want to get everything in life become depressed sometime therefore, it is wisest to be satisfied with the extent to which the need is fulfilled and its benefits are considerable. It is also good to budget so that it becomes easier to save some for the future. If you just earn and meet your needs there will be nothing for the future that will cause problems in the worldly life.

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October 30, 2023, 08:51:44 AM
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The one thing that keeps me going is the thoughts about tomorrow, I have always think more about tomorrow than the present because this is what wakes the awareness in me and get me prepared for tomorrow, all what I have achieved today is because of how good I am in preparing for tomorrow, I used to tell my siblings that whatever you want to do it's not always about today, erase the present and plan towards tomorrow, some plans starts today and you won't see the result until later in the future and such plans are always better than quick results that majority of people in this world today are looking for.

Human needs are endless because we can never feel contented with what we have, some people chooses to avoid preparing for the future because they are satisfied with what they have, they don't have any goals they are chasing and they look more younger and healthier than those chasing dreams, but people who think this way are not many in the world today, I am not saying it's the right thing to do but some people found peace doing so.

If you hear some words from the mouth of Shaolin monks in China you will realize that some people already gave up on the desires of things in life, the are so peaceful and care less about having some money or increasing their worth, I could decide to be like them but I don't want to go on that path, because I have a different mindset when I was growing up, all I am saying is some people found the real peace and they don't care about needs and desires.

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October 30, 2023, 09:45:35 AM
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It is said that "man wants what he gets". There is no end to people. If someone has a mountain of gold, he will think how to get more gold. Man's needs do not end until he dies. In fact, even if we have a lot of resources, we will never be able to meet our needs. Because as humans we are not perfect at all. And even if you want to, all kinds of needs cannot be fulfilled with wealth. Everyone's needs must be limited. Otherwise, it is not possible to reverse the results. Demand is something that keeps on increasing day by day. For example, if someone doesn't have a bicycle, then he thinks I wish I had a bicycle! And if someone has a bicycle, he thinks I wish I had a bike!  And if anyone has a bike, he thinks, I wish I had a nice car! But let's take a look at the person lying in the hospital with cancer thinking, I wish I could live! So when we consider it, it turns out that we actually have no end of needs. No matter how much salary a man earns, he will never be able to fulfill his full needs even with his relationship spending money. There is no end to the demand.
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October 30, 2023, 09:48:28 AM
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There’s are sayings ‘you always want what you can’t have’ & ‘the grass is always greener on the other side’ that sum up this conundrum perfectly. Human beings are never satisfied but in some ways that’s what makes us so different & more developed than other living organisms. We should always try to achieve more, it’s not a bad thing.
I prefer your opinion and I want to say that there is no end to the needs of people, whose lack of people is infinite Living a life that reconciles infinite scarcity with limited resources is real work Even if other animals get a lot, they cannot keep it in themselves due to lack of coordination, but humans are a little more advanced creatures who know how to balance and use the relationship Part of the salary should be saved and invested so that there is less reason to worry about the lifestyle in the days to come But it is not a bad idea to always earn more income but it should be done regularly then there will be more improvement and chances in life and you will help to meet many more needs.It's a natural process that a certain amount of salary can never make up for being successful or that the more money you're paid, the more you'll lack.For this, it is necessary to balance the salary through budgeting, separate the salary through the I&O process and use it for investment and expenditure.
It is true that human needs are endless the opportunity to meet the demand is limited so it is wise to limit the demand. Perfection of everything is not possible in earthly life those who want to get everything in life become depressed sometime therefore, it is wisest to be satisfied with the extent to which the need is fulfilled and its benefits are considerable. It is also good to budget so that it becomes easier to save some for the future. If you just earn and meet your needs there will be nothing for the future that will cause problems in the worldly life.

Yes, it is true that a person's needs will never end, in my opinion it is because they are living humans who have common sense who will always think of having something that other people have, and in my opinion it is also very related to the name of desire which as we know the desire will never end, none other than because there are many new things that have sprung up that make us feel interested in having. Honestly, in my opinion, it is more precise "humans will never be able to fulfill their desires" that is more appropriate because for the problem of needs I think it is easy to fulfill if you are at a financial level, we must be able to distinguish what is meant by needs and desires, therefore management will always be prioritized because nothing but that can make your life balanced in every condition.

And yes the most important thing in life problems is to remain grateful for whatever we have and also for all the conditions we are experiencing, don't always prioritize your desires because obviously you will never be satisfied with what you have or what you achieve, so the point is to just be grateful, it's better.

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October 30, 2023, 11:12:22 AM
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No matter how much salary a man earns, he will never be able to fulfill his full needs even with his relationship spending money. There is no end to the demand.

I think you have to specify this angle of salary or money in terms of satisfying our needs because if you mean financial needs, yes people can satisfy their financial needs and in fact do satisfy them. When you talk about salary earn, well maybe it may not because you don't become rich to satisfy all your financial needs including that of your wife, girlfriend, family or relatives by earning just salary but if you have a good business investment and you are very rich then nothing financially can be your problem. Take a clue from those who are rich and giving aids and gift to the less privileged.

You can have all that money can buy actually but you may have other needs that are not physical or financial, like you might have psychological needs, bad relationship, spiritual needs etc.

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They say a bird in hand is better than two birds in the bush and like you said "human needs are insatiable " and if we marry these two days it gives a hint that our lifestyles will always be like this , nomatter how much help you give it will never be enough, nomatter how much one tries to sort out problems today they to will not be enough as other responsibilities will pop out..which tells me let's be prudent and work with  available resources nomatter how small they go a long way, if it's saving some money for small Bitcoin investments let it be..in the future this will make financial sense and is advisable to work with whatever resources are available!!

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There’s are sayings ‘you always want what you can’t have’ & ‘the grass is always greener on the other side’ that sum up this conundrum perfectly. Human beings are never satisfied but in some ways that’s what makes us so different & more developed than other living organisms. We should always try to achieve more, it’s not a bad thing.
I prefer your opinion and I want to say that there is no end to the needs of people, whose lack of people is infinite Living a life that reconciles infinite scarcity with limited resources is real work Even if other animals get a lot, they cannot keep it in themselves due to lack of coordination, but humans are a little more advanced creatures who know how to balance and use the relationship Part of the salary should be saved and invested so that there is less reason to worry about the lifestyle in the days to come But it is not a bad idea to always earn more income but it should be done regularly then there will be more improvement and chances in life and you will help to meet many more needs.It's a natural process that a certain amount of salary can never make up for being successful or that the more money you're paid, the more you'll lack.For this, it is necessary to balance the salary through budgeting, separate the salary through the I&O process and use it for investment and expenditure.
It is true that human needs are endless the opportunity to meet the demand is limited so it is wise to limit the demand. Perfection of everything is not possible in earthly life those who want to get everything in life become depressed sometime therefore, it is wisest to be satisfied with the extent to which the need is fulfilled and its benefits are considerable. It is also good to budget so that it becomes easier to save some for the future. If you just earn and meet your needs there will be nothing for the future that will cause problems in the worldly life.

Yes, it is true that a person's needs will never end, in my opinion it is because they are living humans who have common sense who will always think of having something that other people have, and in my opinion it is also very related to the name of desire which as we know the desire will never end, none other than because there are many new things that have sprung up that make us feel interested in having. Honestly, in my opinion, it is more precise "humans will never be able to fulfill their desires" that is more appropriate because for the problem of needs I think it is easy to fulfill if you are at a financial level, we must be able to distinguish what is meant by needs and desires, therefore management will always be prioritized because nothing but that can make your life balanced in every condition.

And yes the most important thing in life problems is to remain grateful for whatever we have and also for all the conditions we are experiencing, don't always prioritize your desires because obviously you will never be satisfied with what you have or what you achieve, so the point is to just be grateful, it's better.
There are always those moments on which you do sees that in every moment and situation which it seems that it is really that determined already or fixed. On the time that we do have extra money then suddenly there are some emergencies that do happen like hospitalization, emergency etc... on which it would really be that resulting on spending those savings into those things.Yes, you had saved up yourself for that situation but of course in exchange for those saved funds which leaves you nothing or even the worst if it wasnt enough then you would really be taking up some loans on which it would really be just that so normal on such conditions
but as much as possible then it would really be that wise that we should really be that avoiding getting loans.

Money management would really be that always recommended because if you do find yourself not really that putting attention to this then you might really be that ending up
on hard situation on which leaving you no choice but to get into those points on borrowing. Now that in every year which economic situations comes even more worst year by year
then it would really be that just right that you should really be finding other ways for you to earn money aside from your own main job. It is really just that needing up that
proper time management for that.

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Yes this is true, human wants is much more unsatisfiable so no matter what you do, this life is very complex, I think the best way is to do what you know how to do at all time to make yourself and people around you happy, getting all you desired should not be part of the goal because it is a no no, it is practically impossible to meet your needs once as a human being, you just can't, sometimes I see people think this way but my stands have been, it is impossible, even the so-called world billionaires, there are still things wanting in their life, this is natural and we can not change it, to me I see some of this things as the way our creator has made it to be and there is nothing we can do about it.
That's the actual thing, human nature isn't satisfiable, no matter how much you achieve, you will still want to achieve something more, the struggle is real. Someone who is poor thinks that those who are rich have everything they need in their lives but those who are rich know that some of their desires are still unfulfilled, some of them might have to do with finances and some might not need finances but people who have a lot of money will still have problems.

So as they say, "The grass is always greener from the other side of the fence.", which means that no matter how much you get in your life, you will still desire more. You can barely find people who don't have everything but they are still happy and satisfied with whatever they have and they never complain.

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No matter how much salary a man earns, he will never be able to fulfill his full needs even with his relationship spending money. There is no end to the demand.

I think you have to specify this angle of salary or money in terms of satisfying our needs because if you mean financial needs, yes people can satisfy their financial needs and in fact do satisfy them. When you talk about salary earn, well maybe it may not because you don't become rich to satisfy all your financial needs including that of your wife, girlfriend, family or relatives by earning just salary but if you have a good business investment and you are very rich then nothing financially can be your problem. Take a clue from those who are rich and giving aids and gift to the less privileged.

You can have all that money can buy actually but you may have other needs that are not physical or financial, like you might have psychological needs, bad relationship, spiritual needs etc.
it still depends though fulfilling financial needs could be really hard if someone is really just all about those luxury brands that gonna suck few grands for the simplest goods ever.
like those luxury bags brands, that charges tens to hundreds thousands of dollars just for a bag, in which i don't think make sense for majority of people.
this could cause financial stability if the people needs to fulfill their financial needs while also trying to satisfy desire of luxurious stuff.
I think it also depends on whether an individual capable of distinguishing their basic needs and something they don't really needs.

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it still depends though fulfilling financial needs could be really hard if someone is really just all about those luxury brands that gonna suck few grands for the simplest goods ever.
like those luxury bags brands, that charges tens to hundreds thousands of dollars just for a bag, in which i don't think make sense for majority of people.
this could cause financial stability if the people needs to fulfill their financial needs while also trying to satisfy desire of luxurious stuff.
I think it also depends on whether an individual capable of distinguishing their basic needs and something they don't really needs.
Indeed, there are some people who force themselves to look luxurious so that they buy things that are not commensurate with their income and they will have difficulty meeting their needs because they use the income they have for things they don't need.

Everyone must of course be able to differentiate between their basic needs and things they don't need so that the income they earn can meet their needs and must also manage the income they have so that they don't use it for things that are not important.

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October 31, 2023, 06:27:03 AM
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First I would say "human needs are insatiable." Upon attending to some current needs, definitely others will arise. So, even if you spend all your earnings trying to solve every of your needs, that doesn't mean that other needs might not arise.
Needs that are never met because they are always there again and again are not needs but desires, and often what destroys someone's finances is desire. However, you must first fulfill all your needs before starting to invest, while desires will begin to be fulfilled when our investment is successful in providing profits, but unfortunately often people cannot differentiate between needs and desires, considering always buying clothes for example as a necessity even though this is a desire, replacing a smartphone regularly, for example once a year, is considered a necessity even though this is a desire, and all desires can never be fulfilled because it will only drain our finances and make us unable to save and invest, because humans are always full of desires, sometimes even ignoring needs.

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You've already said it OP, human needs are insatiable and I think that it's true. But don't misunderstand me though, yes it's true and it's not a bad thing because desire can be equated to necessity and necessity is the mother of inventions plus desire is helping the humanity advance as a species, our ceaseless desire to know everything and create something is what has kept our species alive for a 300,000 years and will continue to be the driving force for our survival. Also, desire and needs are the driving force of the economy because if a person doesn't desire any material then they don't have any motivation to be a cog in this capitalistic machinery that we've built to create products that we sell to other people that desire those products. Regarding the title of the thread, of course you can't get all your desires at once because desire has a price and most of the time it's not cheap.



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October 31, 2023, 10:05:06 AM
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Indeed, there are some people who force themselves to look luxurious so that they buy things that are not commensurate with their income and they will have difficulty meeting their needs because they use the income they have for things they don't need.

Everyone must of course be able to differentiate between their basic needs and things they don't need so that the income they earn can meet their needs and must also manage the income they have so that they don't use it for things that are not important.
Yes, this is what happens in the country of Congo or better known as the La sape community, they prioritize appearance compared to their needs, this community consists of poor people. Yes, your decisions determine your future, yes, prioritize function, not prestige, so that we don't get trapped into a difficult lifestyle.

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October 31, 2023, 10:32:09 AM
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Yes, it is true that a person's needs will never end, in my opinion it is because they are living humans who have common sense who will always think of having something that other people have, and in my opinion it is also very related to the name of desire which as we know the desire will never end, none other than because there are many new things that have sprung up that make us feel interested in having. Honestly, in my opinion, it is more precise "humans will never be able to fulfill their desires" that is more appropriate because for the problem of needs I think it is easy to fulfill if you are at a financial level, we must be able to distinguish what is meant by needs and desires, therefore management will always be prioritized because nothing but that can make your life balanced in every condition.

And yes the most important thing in life problems is to remain grateful for whatever we have and also for all the conditions we are experiencing, don't always prioritize your desires because obviously you will never be satisfied with what you have or what you achieve, so the point is to just be grateful, it's better.
There are always those moments on which you do sees that in every moment and situation which it seems that it is really that determined already or fixed. On the time that we do have extra money then suddenly there are some emergencies that do happen like hospitalization, emergency etc... on which it would really be that resulting on spending those savings into those things.Yes, you had saved up yourself for that situation but of course in exchange for those saved funds which leaves you nothing or even the worst if it wasnt enough then you would really be taking up some loans on which it would really be just that so normal on such conditions
but as much as possible then it would really be that wise that we should really be that avoiding getting loans.

Money management would really be that always recommended because if you do find yourself not really that putting attention to this then you might really be that ending up
on hard situation on which leaving you no choice but to get into those points on borrowing. Now that in every year which economic situations comes even more worst year by year
then it would really be that just right that you should really be finding other ways for you to earn money aside from your own main job. It is really just that needing up that
proper time management for that.

In any case management is the most important and must be set, especially in the case of life, you will never know about what will happen tomorrow, and if today you spree and spend all your money just for short-term pleasure then yes if tomorrow there is a new thing that is very sudden and also that urges you to spend money then I'm sure you will be confused and say "if only I saved yesterday's money", regretful involvement will always be there when we do things that are not accompanied by good management and planning.

Of course, and borrowing money has become a very common solution for everyone when facing such difficult times, although it helps you but I wouldn't say that it's entirely good, as you said. And if they can't change their lifestyle especially in terms of financial management then of course every time they experience difficult conditions their first action is to borrow money. Honestly in this matter I will not fully blame them for the reason if indeed their financial condition is really bad, but if they have pretty good finances but are still involved in problems like this then yes obviously the initial problem point is their very poor management. That's right, one of the actions or ways that can be done to restore their finances or increase their finances to be better is as you said, looking for new jobs such as part-time to increase their income, many have done this including myself, and this is an effective way that people always use to improve their finances.

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October 31, 2023, 12:42:02 PM
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First I would say "human needs are insatiable." Upon attending to some current needs, definitely others will arise. So, even if you spend all your earnings trying to solve every of your needs, that doesn't mean that other needs might not arise.
Needs that are never met because they are always there again and again are not needs but desires, and often what destroys someone's finances is desire. However, you must first fulfill all your needs before starting to invest, while desires will begin to be fulfilled when our investment is successful in providing profits, but unfortunately often people cannot differentiate between needs and desires, considering always buying clothes for example as a necessity even though this is a desire, replacing a smartphone regularly, for example once a year, is considered a necessity even though this is a desire, and all desires can never be fulfilled because it will only drain our finances and make us unable to save and invest, because humans are always full of desires, sometimes even ignoring needs.
Still, we see people giving in to the never-ending cycle of desire - buying, upgrading, and spending - thinking that these wants are needs. These acts hurt your finances and make it impossible to save and invest. You brought up a problem that people have by nature.

To get more specific, it's important to solve this money problem. Getting educated on money matters and developing discipline are essential. One can tell the difference between basic needs and temporary wants by putting costs into groups and carefully watching how they are spent. Wants can drain you, but a well-thought-out plan can lessen this effect, making money management an art instead of a battle.

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November 01, 2023, 08:41:29 AM
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Indeed, there are some people who force themselves to look luxurious so that they buy things that are not commensurate with their income and they will have difficulty meeting their needs because they use the income they have for things they don't need.

Everyone must of course be able to differentiate between their basic needs and things they don't need so that the income they earn can meet their needs and must also manage the income they have so that they don't use it for things that are not important.

A responsible man never waste his money and always think that by using his income in useless activities will make him unhappy one day. I think a person should not work for looking luxurious but he should work to make his life so comfortable that he do not utilize his more energy in earning. Like a person is working impatiently to earn money and then spend money in buying luxurious but unimportant materials then he will have to earn more for basic materials.

Now a days the basic materials are so higher in price that one cannot fulfil his need easily therefore they also have no money to be look luxurious. But some people who still waste their money will regret in future because those who are not saving money in present will definitely see harsh time in future.

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A wise man (R Kyosaki) once said “Always pay yourself first, everyone else last.” That means you should invest first, pay the bills and taxes last. If you make a habit of it, it won’t make a difference right away but over time, in the long run it will create a snowballing effect which is going to make a huge difference. Most people do the exact opposite. They pay their bills and taxes right on the first day of the month. This is a very bad habit. You should dump this habit like recovering from an addiction. Every time you pay your debts early, you are making a big favor to the banks. They are getting richer because of it. Even 1 day matters. Always pay them last.

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November 01, 2023, 11:45:39 AM
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it still depends though fulfilling financial needs could be really hard if someone is really just all about those luxury brands 
Indeed, there are some people who force themselves to look luxurious so that they buy things that are not commensurate with their income and they will have difficulty meeting their needs because they use the income they have for things they don't need.

Everyone must of course be able to differentiate between their basic needs and things they don't need so that the income they earn can meet their needs and must also manage the income they have so that they don't use it for things that are not important.
People who pursue luxury rather than their actual needs are only satisfying their desire. It shouldn't be a problem if they can actually afford luxurious commodities and services. But where they can barely meet up with their basic or actual needs yet pursue luxury probably due to competition or pressure from the society, I tag it 'foolishness'.

Human wants are insatiable,  this is why we should help ourselves by ordering our wants according to their order of importance. We will fall into deep debts or get involved in illegal activities if we decide to pursue all that we desire. To help ourselves better,  diversifying our source (s) of income will help us live comfortably.

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November 01, 2023, 03:07:01 PM
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 #220

you never know what will happen in the future you can be financially stable today but if faced with a crisis or an emergency in the future who knows how it will affect your financial status? i will never get tired of reminding everyone the rule of thumb to only invest what you can afford to lose there’s still some risk involved in investing so still make sure you have enough to go by every day expenses and some for unprecedented situations like accidents for example invest responsibly everyone
A wise man (R Kyosaki) once said “Always pay yourself first, everyone else last.” That means you should invest first, pay the bills and taxes last.
What a Notable Quote there , really inspiring and educative , thanks for this as I have read this in the past but have almost forgotten , now I will surely put this in mind in top of everything.

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