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December 17, 2023, 07:51:15 PM
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If we are gambling because we want luck, it will be a never ending argument on which one either we want luck or we just want to play to entertain ourselves. If we want luck, I think this the beginning of something like chasing the luck and we might end up overspending. 😅
In essence, gambling is not only about luck but also analysis and strategy, especially in soccer betting games. Of course analysis is really needed, if we only rely on luck as you say we will definitely spend too much money, in other words lose.

After all, many people say it's because of luck in casino games or slots. Winning because of luck is sometimes true, but the percentage is very small, you could say maybe 1/100, depending on the game system, and this luck does not happen continuously in the sense that for example, in 50 games we might only win 5 of them.
I don't fucking think so man, gambling is all about luck and nothing should change it, as investment is about patient so gambling is also about luck.
Even the highest gambler in the world might say or might not say that gambling is about luck because he or she might have won something big from gambling.
Strategy can only help the luck to come faster but luck can still work on his own even if the strategy is not applied. Luck should be measured 98% and strategy should be measured in 5% of 100.
Well dont get mad on what other peoples opinion would be on which we do have our own perception towards gambling and towards on being lucky on which it is true on what you have said
that despite on being that good as an experienced gambler but literally luck would really be always the end game or thing that you would really be needing because if you dont that that on the said time,
no matter how good your analysis is, it would turn out to be a shit result when luck doesnt favor you. This is why it would be always be best that you should really be wary with those
possibilities or with those probabilities because there's no way that we could be having that guaranteed or 100% sure win.

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December 17, 2023, 08:35:32 PM
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I don't fucking think so man, gambling is all about luck and nothing should change it, as investment is about patient so gambling is also about luck.
Even the highest gambler in the world might say or might not say that gambling is about luck because he or she might have won something big from gambling.
Strategy can only help the luck to come faster but luck can still work on his own even if the strategy is not applied. Luck should be measured 98% and strategy should be measured in 5% of 100.
Well dont get mad on what other peoples opinion would be on which we do have our own perception towards gambling and towards on being lucky on which it is true on what you have said
that despite on being that good as an experienced gambler but literally luck would really be always the end game or thing that you would really be needing because if you dont that that on the said time,
no matter how good your analysis is, it would turn out to be a shit result when luck doesnt favor you. This is why it would be always be best that you should really be wary with those
possibilities or with those probabilities because there's no way that we could be having that guaranteed or 100% sure win.

Exactly, everyone has their own point of view on gambling, there are those who think that this activity is very negative so they always avoid it and there are also those who even think that gambling can be used as a place to earn income, of course all of that is their right because after all they themselves will feel the good and bad effects, and maybe some of the advice that is always given by others is not necessarily going to be useful even though it is good, of course it will also go back to the considerations they make, they will be able to follow some good advice if they really have the right understanding and point of view on gambling.

Of course, it's a fact that this is gambling after all which means that there are chances of winning and there are possible risks too, no matter if you are very skilled in your knowledge but still everything goes back to the initial concept that risk can never be avoided completely and only luck can ensure whether you really win in the session you are doing. That is why we should emphasize good control and limits, only to minimize the number of losses from being too large, and not to increase the chances of winning.

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December 17, 2023, 08:45:25 PM
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I can't say it's pure luck because if you bet on sporting events and you see that the odds of the non-favorite team winning are very small. If gambling was all about luck, the odds of a bet on the underdog winning would be close to 50%. However, we know that this is a very small percentage. But I agree that Casiona games are all about luck.

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December 17, 2023, 09:08:32 PM
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Well dont get mad on what other peoples opinion would be on which we do have our own perception towards gambling and towards on being lucky on which it is true on what you have said
that despite on being that good as an experienced gambler but literally luck would really be always the end game or thing that you would really be needing because if you dont that that on the said time,
no matter how good your analysis is, it would turn out to be a shit result when luck doesnt favor you. This is why it would be always be best that you should really be wary with those
possibilities or with those probabilities because there's no way that we could be having that guaranteed or 100% sure win.
Every gambler bets will hope for luck to support winning, because pro level analysis cannot guarantee luck to win or any gambling support tool cannot guarantee luck on every bet, so that is why gambling is associated with luck and odds even though the chance factor is often ignored because Odds do not provide convincing points for predictions of winning in betting, gambling is very unpredictable so you have to be careful placing high bets and keep betting normal amounts so that you don't experience high losses.

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December 17, 2023, 09:09:53 PM
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I don't think it's pure luck, also in games you have to know what you're doing, 'because if you don't know well, things can go very wrong, I do enter a game if I have no idea what or what.' What I'm going to do is like clicking on buttons that I don't know what they do, or what the objective is and if we are in a game that if you know what to do, you can't play in a very lucky way, you have to make sense. If I play poker, I have been studying, and I know that in poker, apart from being lucky, you have to have a strategy to win.

If I play poor poker but it's all up to luck, that won't give me good results , I'm not doing the right thing because it's one of the things that I can say that we're doing it wrong, and that will give me a loss of money, and that doesn't make sense to you. I always look to win and for things to go in my favor, that's why I also study poker, by studying it and having experience you know , so it's not just luck.

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December 17, 2023, 10:35:50 PM
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If we are gambling because we want luck, it will be a never ending argument on which one either we want luck or we just want to play to entertain ourselves. If we want luck, I think this the beginning of something like chasing the luck and we might end up overspending. 😅
In essence, gambling is not only about luck but also analysis and strategy, especially in soccer betting games. Of course analysis is really needed, if we only rely on luck as you say we will definitely spend too much money, in other words lose.

After all, many people say it's because of luck in casino games or slots. Winning because of luck is sometimes true, but the percentage is very small, you could say maybe 1/100, depending on the game system, and this luck does not happen continuously in the sense that for example, in 50 games we might only win 5 of them.
I don't fucking think so man, gambling is all about luck and nothing should change it, as investment is about patient so gambling is also about luck.
Even the highest gambler in the world might say or might not say that gambling is about luck because he or she might have won something big from gambling.
Strategy can only help the luck to come faster but luck can still work on his own even if the strategy is not applied. Luck should be measured 98% and strategy should be measured in 5% of 100.
Well dont get mad on what other peoples opinion would be on which we do have our own perception towards gambling and towards on being lucky on which it is true on what you have said
that despite on being that good as an experienced gambler but literally luck would really be always the end game or thing that you would really be needing because if you dont that that on the said time,
no matter how good your analysis is, it would turn out to be a shit result when luck doesnt favor you. This is why it would be always be best that you should really be wary with those
possibilities or with those probabilities because there's no way that we could be having that guaranteed or 100% sure win.
Well, I have an opinion that may seem very consistent and at the same time not, for me things do work when they are done with strategies, it does not mean that there is or exists a strategy that does everything or every time it is going to be Played because it is win, no, the thing here is that every time a person goes to notice that things can Turn out in other Ways they can happen, for example in the games he says on freebitco.in, in 2017 when he was a total newbie in the casinos. Just like in the bitcoin game, well things always turned out well for me because I was innovating in the strategies, I didn't know one but many, some I had to write down to apply them, so these were something that at that time were useful to me, but When I Started playing in one way, I always did the same thing all the time because I lost, it's like Playing under the same format or Routine , something that Should never be done, because they Always fail us and they can find a way to make us lose, obviously because your home advantage.

Now, as people we can Emphasize doing something that goes beyond to ensure that one wins because I always saw strategies of all kinds, mostly on YouTube, and it could be said that there is no one strategy that always makes us Win,  no, not at all , that does not exist, many strategies can be applied and it may be that one of those that is applied if you Win , but it has to be done this way, I think that when we play Repeatedly we are not Going to win anymore, because It is very difficult, things are usually like this in casino Systems , that is why we can Encounter people who say that strategies do not work, or do not exist, I think that if a strategy can be applied in particular and win, when it is necessary , otherwise I think it is very difficult to play without making strategies, or following patterns or something like that, I always saw patterns of even even, odd odd, I Always tried to look at all those things.

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December 17, 2023, 11:04:26 PM
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Well dont get mad on what other peoples opinion would be on which we do have our own perception towards gambling and towards on being lucky on which it is true on what you have said
that despite on being that good as an experienced gambler but literally luck would really be always the end game or thing that you would really be needing because if you dont that that on the said time,
no matter how good your analysis is, it would turn out to be a shit result when luck doesnt favor you. This is why it would be always be best that you should really be wary with those
possibilities or with those probabilities because there's no way that we could be having that guaranteed or 100% sure win.
Every gambler bets will hope for luck to support winning, because pro level analysis cannot guarantee luck to win or any gambling support tool cannot guarantee luck on every bet, so that is why gambling is associated with luck and odds even though the chance factor is often ignored because Odds do not provide convincing points for predictions of winning in betting, gambling is very unpredictable so you have to be careful placing high bets and keep betting normal amounts so that you don't experience high losses.

Well no guarantee to win by having that pro level analysis what you said but at least we have more higher chance win since for having that we are much looking at all details important to see before betting and we make sure to count all stats also the possibilities that's why I can say that even if the game base on luck or random result we still need brains with this to see huge possibilities to hit a win on our next bet.

Gambling is very unpredictable but we can do something to lower down the risk and convert it to positive result that's why we need to learn from our gaming experience so we can apply some sort of strategies since we can simply use it even if the game is base on luck. Martingale strategy is sometimes helpful that's why this strategy been used by gambler even if they know the result will still in random form.

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December 17, 2023, 11:11:58 PM
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Well dont get mad on what other peoples opinion would be on which we do have our own perception towards gambling and towards on being lucky on which it is true on what you have said
that despite on being that good as an experienced gambler but literally luck would really be always the end game or thing that you would really be needing because if you dont that that on the said time,
no matter how good your analysis is, it would turn out to be a shit result when luck doesnt favor you. This is why it would be always be best that you should really be wary with those
possibilities or with those probabilities because there's no way that we could be having that guaranteed or 100% sure win.

The gambler should not hear the words of the other people who don’t know anything about the gambling site.Most of the time,the gamblers was be criticised by the non gamblers in the society.The non gamblers don’t know what the gambling was to us and don’t know the feeling which we healed by doing this gambling.The non gambler may come across the gamblers who loss their entire assets by doing the gambling,So they will start to advice whenever they meet us.But they won’t look the successful gambler who became the businessman after the big earning from the gambling site.The luck may be the important factor in the gambling winnings of the gamblers.

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December 18, 2023, 04:36:35 AM
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I can't say it's pure luck because if you bet on sporting events and you see that the odds of the non-favorite team winning are very small. If gambling was all about luck, the odds of a bet on the underdog winning would be close to 50%. However, we know that this is a very small percentage. But I agree that Casiona games are all about luck.
It is as if you read my mind on this. I don't actually believe gambling is pure luck because it is too organised to be based entirely on luck. Luck is just one factor that can help no doubt but saying that gambling is purely on luck is like saying that one can close his eyes and chose at random without studying the pattern, sequence and other things.

I'm convinced that there are professional gamblers who have mastered certain patters and sequence due to their being in gambling for long. This crop of gamblers need luck though but they depend entirely on thrir skill and experience.  No magic wand can make you a millionaire in gambling

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December 18, 2023, 04:44:32 PM
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A gambler need to know mechanics, have knowledge, skills, strategies and discipline before start gambling in any specific game where luck effect less.  
You simply mean to say that a person should focus more on sports betting because it's part of gambling where luck has less or I should say much less influence on the results and it's the knowledge, experience, and understanding of the game that can make a person win in the long run. If you are a gambler who plays gambling games and is expecting to earn money from it, you are wrong because you can't achieve your goals where you are trying.

A person who has been following a certain sport since childhood and has a keen interest in it can easily start betting on the matches that they are confident about, and if they have knowledge and experience which is combined with some research and analysis, they can always have more wins than losses.

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Every gambler bets will hope for luck to support winning, because pro level analysis cannot guarantee luck to win or any gambling support tool cannot guarantee luck on every bet, so that is why gambling is associated with luck and odds even though the chance factor is often ignored because Odds do not provide convincing points for predictions of winning in betting, gambling is very unpredictable so you have to be careful placing high bets and keep betting normal amounts so that you don't experience high losses.

Well no guarantee to win by having that pro level analysis what you said but at least we have more higher chance win since for having that we are much looking at all details important to see before betting and we make sure to count all stats also the possibilities that's why I can say that even if the game base on luck or random result we still need brains with this to see huge possibilities to hit a win on our next bet.

Gambling is very unpredictable but we can do something to lower down the risk and convert it to positive result that's why we need to learn from our gaming experience so we can apply some sort of strategies since we can simply use it even if the game is base on luck. Martingale strategy is sometimes helpful that's why this strategy been used by gambler even if they know the result will still in random form.

Martingale's strategy happens to be among the worst strategies in gambling, it'll be like chasing losses with a higher amount of money. The more you lose the more money you wager, isn't it bad if the player continues losing in the process? Strategies like this fuel the process of getting addicted. Gamblers who have lost lots of money would try at all costs to increase the funds, hence earning higher amounts of money if, luckily, a win appears. Once in a while, the method could be beneficial, but the idea only gets worse when the player is having consecutive losses. His decision would hunt him down and he'll run out of money. Gamblers who play for the money are expected to earn money by minimizing the amount of money they spend each day in gambling. Hoping on strategies that promise big wins, will only reward the player with anxiety and anger. Whatever analysis we do in soccer requires minimal expenses.

A gambler who wagers huge amounts of money hoping that his predictions are top notch could end up losing big money. Depending on luck, which is not guaranteed is quite a big gamble, holding on to what we can control is the best strategy for dealing with losing money in gambling. However, we all lose the whole money to the house. Chasing big wins, that will be wagered back to the house, isn't realistic. Lack of control, builds a bad memory in the gambler's brain, as he'd experience lots of pain losing his money, especially when using the Martingale strategy. In a nutshell, gambling depends on lots of factors like relaxation, fun, critical thinking, etc. These factors don't rely on luck for a gambler to possess them. Winning in gambling after the relaxation hour, it's like getting paid a portion of the money you spend enjoying the games. Naive gamblers playing for the money alone and neglecting the meaning factors associated with gambling will only hope on luck to get those rewards. From the look of things, it looks like those who came to relax win more than the gamblers expecting money in return.

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What "instinct" are you talking about? We can see about it in movies and read in books because it makes movies and books more interesting for some people, but not for me, and I hope not for the most part of the educated people. If you want to talk about it seriously, tell me what is the scientific basis of this information? How do you imagine this happens? A piece of information going back in time and reaching your brain so you could make a bet based on your "instinct"?
I also confused about what is meant by instinct because instinct is kind of behavioral pattern that has been there since childhood without being learned and is usually hereditary, and of course this has nothing to do with good betting results.
If you only rely on instinct then obviously no casino will develop because they lose to gamblers, they lose to the instincts that gamblers have, this doesn't really make sense if the chance of winning could be greater if it was based on instinct.
As far as I know and in my experience in gambling, there are only three factors that can make gambler win, namely knowledge, analysis and also luck.
If the gambler can have these three factors then the chance of winning will be greater.

I'd say, only good luck would be enough. Smiley Your knowledge and analysis is nothing when luck is not on your side. But let's be realistic, no one can be lucky all the time. And then we see that in reality all the other factors start playing a role. But then again. as every gambler knows, you can do everything backwards and with the help of good luck you can win still.

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I'd say, only good luck would be enough. Smiley Your knowledge and analysis is nothing when luck is not on your side. But let's be realistic, no one can be lucky all the time. And then we see that in reality all the other factors start playing a role. But then again. as every gambler knows, you can do everything backwards and with the help of good luck you can win still.

Luck is the best explanation for a gamblers wins, especially when gambling on virtual games or games that deal with random AI generated numbers. Those games are all about lucks, but when we talk about sport betting, most wins are fueled by the knowledge of the gambler towards his selected games. One can have full confidence on the outcome of a selected match and bet towards it. Indeed there is a room for knowledge when talking about gambling wins.
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I'd say, only good luck would be enough. Smiley Your knowledge and analysis is nothing when luck is not on your side. But let's be realistic, no one can be lucky all the time. And then we see that in reality all the other factors start playing a role. But then again. as every gambler knows, you can do everything backwards and with the help of good luck you can win still.

Luck is the best explanation for a gamblers wins, especially when gambling on virtual games or games that deal with random AI generated numbers. Those games are all about lucks, but when we talk about sport betting, most wins are fueled by the knowledge of the gambler towards his selected games. One can have full confidence on the outcome of a selected match and bet towards it. Indeed there is a room for knowledge when talking about gambling wins.

I see your point and, for me, there are some experienced gamblers who can rely on their knowledge and not always with the luck that might back them up. I mean, like you mentioned sports betting, there are gamblers who understand the game well, so they can pick the right player or team that might have that good edge.

As per experience, they will place the bet with a much higher chance of winning compared to those gamblers who just randomly pick their selections and hope that luck will be there to allow them to win.


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December 19, 2023, 09:51:29 PM
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Speaking of gambling games depending on luck, I have seen that when people are starting out in sports betting, they think about relying more on luck than relying on the knowledge and data they can obtain about the games, I came to I come to this conclusion because I see a lot of people selecting more than 20 games in a multibet bet, which made me wonder how long it took them to analyze each of the 20 games, and even if they were analyzing 5 games a day, I still wouldn't be convinced that they had time to analyze the 20 games and then place a multibet bet

So my suspicion is that people who have made multibet bets in which there are 20 or more teams in a multi, they just look at the odds values, for example when they see that a team in this team with odds above 50.00, they are counting on luck, but they forget that the greater the number of games added to a multibet bet, the more difficult it is to get a bet right even if you count on luck

And the part that these people ignore is that in a football game, looking at the value of the odds will not be something that will guarantee good results, for example in a Manchester United game against Liverpool, if Manchester United has odds of 5.00 due to the last games had bad results, while liverpool has an odd of 1.20 because it is a team that managed to win in the last games, but at the end of the game ends in a draw, see that the fact that liverpool had an odd of 1.20 was not a guaranteed victory , but people who bet on luck would have added Liverpool to win

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December 19, 2023, 11:41:30 PM
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Luck is the best explanation for a gamblers wins, especially when gambling on virtual games or games that deal with random AI generated numbers. Those games are all about lucks, but when we talk about sport betting, most wins are fueled by the knowledge of the gambler towards his selected games. One can have full confidence on the outcome of a selected match and bet towards it. Indeed there is a room for knowledge when talking about gambling wins.
Leave these students that comes to explained oneself about the expensive fee paid but the information they gather worth more than the money. I promised myself never to bet on game without making my findings about the game. It becomes very tactical and calculation when an average clubs wins today. Luck is underrated nowadays, even the struggling gamblers that have started winning will continue to confidently say its due to the strategy form out, I accept that but looking at his face, he becomes very suffering, I've heard quite couple's of girls.

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I'd say, only good luck would be enough. Smiley Your knowledge and analysis is nothing when luck is not on your side. But let's be realistic, no one can be lucky all the time. And then we see that in reality all the other factors start playing a role. But then again. as every gambler knows, you can do everything backwards and with the help of good luck you can win still.

Luck is the best explanation for a gamblers wins, especially when gambling on virtual games or games that deal with random AI generated numbers. Those games are all about lucks, but when we talk about sport betting, most wins are fueled by the knowledge of the gambler towards his selected games. One can have full confidence on the outcome of a selected match and bet towards it. Indeed there is a room for knowledge when talking about gambling wins.

I would argue with that. In sports betting you can't win big without risking, or, in other words, without counting on good luck too. If you bet on team that is most likely going to win your odds will be like 1.1 or 1.05 even. You'll never win big, even if you are right and your bet is as high as $200. And we all know that you can lose with 99% win chance because of bad luck.

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I would argue with that. In sports betting you can't win big without risking, or, in other words, without counting on good luck too. If you bet on team that is most likely going to win your odds will be like 1.1 or 1.05 even. You'll never win big, even if you are right and your bet is as high as $200. And we all know that you can lose with 99% win chance because of bad luck.

You're not wrong though, but the context of my post was based on comparing sports betting with other forms of betting. However I understand your point, gambling as a whole requires lock, but chances of winning is on the higher side in sport betting, since you also make use of your own personal knowledge on the teams you are betting for. I have also seen cases where even the 1.1 odd games end up drawing or Lossing to their opponent. So in gambling any thing is possible.
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December 26, 2023, 11:26:36 AM
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If we are gambling because we want luck, it will be a never ending argument on which one either we want luck or we just want to play to entertain ourselves. If we want luck, I think this the beginning of something like chasing the luck and we might end up overspending. 😅

Luck in gambling is an almost tangible matter. And the amazing thing is that gambling is really impossible without luck, and many players come to gambling and stay in it just to feel the "touch" of luck. They don't care that they won and now they can pay off all their debts. They want to feel chosen by fate, and therefore such players will lose again and again, just to feel lucky once again.

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December 26, 2023, 12:20:19 PM
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Yes, I think the same as you. That indeed making money from gambling is not a good choice. Yes, the victory in gambling has a trick and has been set from the system there. Because gambling games are basically a predetermined game. So just waiting for luck when it will side with gamblers. Because basically when people play gambling, they can fall into greed and try to benefit from all costs. This can lead to wrong thinking about gambling, where people think that they can win easily. This can cause people to spend their money excessively and generate a little results. As a result, people who play gambling can lose a lot of money and experience severe financial problems
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