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October 06, 2023, 08:54:45 PM
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Boom, the headline cut your attention right? That's perfect . There are lots of risks in business, investment and trading which is not new to anyone. They have become a common life phenomenal.
 However, the worst risk in the world which I am here to advice everyone at this moment is that it is MOST RISKY  not to take risk.
All great men of our time, have taken one risk and the other, break the barricade of fears and venture into the uncertainty as you uncover your potential.

Well to be sincere with you, everyone who had taken risk and had come with a success story have one common line of story to tell us all that they have taken a calculated risk. Every investor, trader and the rest should learn to take a well calculated risk.

 To know more and gain more experience requires taking some risk that will help you learn. As a trader, just reading without practicing what you have learnt which involve some level of risk does you no good than having an ordinary head knowledge.
 Don't forget that risk is venturing into the uncertainty, so endeavor to keep it a calculated risk before diving into the final decision.

This is not just about trading, this is about anything connecting to human life. Let this words be taken beyond the four walls of trading to every aspect of human life and see the result thereafter. Most important message here is to take a calculated risk

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October 06, 2023, 10:32:58 PM
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However, the worst risk in the world which I am here to advice everyone at this moment is that it is MOST RISKY  not to take risk.
I get your point here. Even if we don't totally lose money because we don't take a risk, but the profit potential if we don't take risk will be lost.

Others are negative minded, who are very afraid of losing money  which is what will prevent them from taking risks. But if we have enough knowledge on the things that we do, we can minimize the risk.

Honestly, if you're not taking risks you will stay what you are but if you take a risk you will go far in life. This is true to life.

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October 07, 2023, 07:11:54 AM
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Don't forget that risk is venturing into the uncertainty, so endeavor to keep it a calculated risk before diving into the final decision.
The most important thing you didn't explain is "what does 'calculated risk' mean?" otherwise it is just an abstract idea you are raising here that is not going to help anybody. Here when you say "risk is venturing into the uncertainty" I have to disagree because you don't venture in uncertainty, you venture in certainty that has some small doses of uncertainty which is the risk.

For example in a trade you first analyze the market fundamentals and technicals then you make a move based on the existing market conditions. There will always be a small chance things change after you executed that trade, that is the risk part.

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The most important thing you didn't explain is "what does 'calculated risk' mean?" otherwise it is just an abstract idea you are raising here that is not going to help anybody. Here when you say "risk is venturing into the uncertainty" I have to disagree because you don't venture in uncertainty, you venture in certainty that has some small doses of uncertainty which is the risk.

For example in a trade you first analyze the market fundamentals and technicals then you make a move based on the existing market conditions. There will always be a small chance things change after you executed that trade, that is the risk part.
Quite interesting with the discussion of "calculated risks".
Some people who do not fully know about trading can only trade, analyze, and do not understand what is meant by calculated risk.

Even though it is an important part of trading that looks profitable,
but in the end, there are some risks that arise and this will be a risk that is really not wanted.

Small possibilities such as market trends that suddenly change, FUD that appears suddenly, and some other risks that cannot be predicted.

This is included in the risk management method, so it is better to use risk management tools such as Stop Loss Order, Take Profit Order or Trailing Stop Order. 
Learning these tools will help one to manage risk in trading.
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October 07, 2023, 08:41:10 AM
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In the bitcoin market volatility range, basically the trading risk is down to 0 even though you read the possibility is very small. And all external factors can contribute to the risk, for example the security of the exchange itself. That's why the calculated risk is that all the money you put in is a total risk. In short, “trade what you can afford to lose”.

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October 07, 2023, 09:20:06 AM
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You stated that there are many hazards involved with the business environment, implying that there are many things to avoid in general. However, because we are in the crypto area and want to make money here, we are in the category of trading on exchange site platforms.

We will not be successful as traders in the crypto industry if we do not know how to read a chart and use trading tools, and if we do not suffer constant loss or failure in what we expect from assets that can provide us with revenue. Before we can be successful in the crypto trading company, we must first fail or make mistakes.



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October 07, 2023, 09:41:57 AM
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However, the worst risk in the world which I am here to advice everyone at this moment is that it is MOST RISKY  not to take risk.
All great men of our time, have taken one risk and the other, break the barricade of fears and venture into the uncertainty as you uncover your potential.
This is true.

Those that are rich now, took risks. Not just for once but for so many times, well, lucky for those that have taken it for once and they're able to succeed with it.

This is not just about trading, this is about anything connecting to human life. Let this words be taken beyond the four walls of trading to every aspect of human life and see the result thereafter. Most important message here is to take a calculated risk
I agree.

It's for everything that we do and not just all about trading. Everything that has two results, losing and winning, success or failure, they have their own risks. And about calculated risk, you either do it safely or go all in on it if you do believe what you're about to do.

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October 07, 2023, 09:45:25 AM
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Boom, the headline cut your attention right? That's perfect . There are lots of risks in business, investment and trading which is not new to anyone. They have become a common life phenomenal.
 However, the worst risk in the world which I am here to advice everyone at this moment is that it is MOST RISKY  not to take risk.
All great men of our time, have taken one risk and the other, break the barricade of fears and venture into the uncertainty as you uncover your potential.

Riski doesn't entails only investment and trading. Life is full of chances, ups and down and if you don't want to remain down, you have to take risk in anything legit to succeed. Going to school today isn't a guarantee that you are going to have a job later in the future but we risk it and invest money on it, some along the line made it to the final year and graduate while some dropped out along the line with fund wasted. Even after the graduation,few are going to have their dream jobs while some will be jobless in the line of their career, I hope you see how the risk turned out.


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Well to be sincere with you, everyone who had taken risk and had come with a success story have one common line of story to tell us all that they have taken a calculated risk. Every investor, trader and the rest should learn to take a well calculated risk.

 To know more and gain more experience requires taking some risk that will help you learn. As a trader, just reading without practicing what you have learnt which involve some level of risk does you no good than having an ordinary head knowledge.
 Don't forget that risk is venturing into the uncertainty, so endeavor to keep it a calculated risk before diving into the final decision.

This is not just about trading, this is about anything connecting to human life. Let this words be taken beyond the four walls of trading to every aspect of human life and see the result thereafter. Most important message here is to take a calculated risk

There are so many obstacles in life that you have to make a step ahead if you don't want to be left behind, you can't do without risk, check out marriage for instance from statistics, how many divorcee do we have in our society, it's not working anymore for some people but does that mean you shouldn't try and find a happy home? No! You have too find a happy home and the only way to do that is by giving it a try.

Likewise trading and investment, business failed and investments turn zero but shouldn't mean you never to try, the richest people we have around today have risk all they have back then to acquire the level of wealth they had today.

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October 07, 2023, 11:12:43 AM
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Risk is good. You can't go far in life just playing it safe, but like you said "calculated risk". We have to take calculated risks in whatever we're doing.

Is the risk worth the reward? If it fails what do you do? What is your plan B?
These are questions you ask yourself before taking a risk. Don't take risks that will wreck you if you fail.
Sure, somebody takes the "all or nothing" risks and it works for them but it's never advisable. That's more of a gamble and not an investment.

Calculated risk means you have analyzed the whole situation, the whole investment, business, or trade you're about to make.
You invest what you can afford to lose. A sun that would be missed if lost, but also a sun that would not wreck you if lost is what you should use to invest.

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October 07, 2023, 11:20:03 AM
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Personally, I believe that psychological factors should not be involved in trading, that is, if there are factors surrounding you that push you to trade, such as a friend telling you to invest in Bitcoin, Ethereum, or any investment, and that it is a guaranteed investment and your opportunity to be rich without having technical knowledge or background, then it is better not to do that.
Study your plan well, talk to people with experience, build your convictions, and then invest. Even if you lose, you will know the reason for the loss.
Investing is not only about taking risks, but also about learning from mistakes.
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October 07, 2023, 12:00:22 PM
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I totally agree on you that the most risky thing in life is by not taking some risk. Everything in life has its own risk, so if you would avoid the risk and just stay in your comfort zone, nothing will happen in your life, and I think only lazy and fearful people would want that. So always encourage each one another to never be afraid to take calculated risk, because it’s only in taking risk we will be able to see the best version of us. Be it in trading, investing or in any forms of risky adventure, always know your capabilities and be brave enough in dealing with the risk. Never forget that the people who are in the peak of success today have definitely learned to take calculated risk, even if they failed at their first attempts.
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October 07, 2023, 12:19:39 PM
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The most important thing you didn't explain is "what does 'calculated risk' mean?" otherwise it is just an abstract idea you are raising here that is not going to help anybody. Here when you say "risk is venturing into the uncertainty" I have to disagree because you don't venture in uncertainty, you venture in certainty that has some small doses of uncertainty which is the risk.

For example in a trade you first analyze the market fundamentals and technicals then you make a move based on the existing market conditions. There will always be a small chance things change after you executed that trade, that is the risk part.
Quite interesting with the discussion of "calculated risks".
Some people who do not fully know about trading can only trade, analyze, and do not understand what is meant by calculated risk.

Even though it is an important part of trading that looks profitable,
but in the end, there are some risks that arise and this will be a risk that is really not wanted.

Small possibilities such as market trends that suddenly change, FUD that appears suddenly, and some other risks that cannot be predicted.

This is included in the risk management method, so it is better to use risk management tools such as Stop Loss Order, Take Profit Order or Trailing Stop Order. 
Learning these tools will help one to manage risk in trading.

Stop loss in trading is very important, especially if we trade futures, to prevent further losses. Even in long-term investment matters, we have to have a plan where we have to be brave enough to make decisions if something undesirable happens. Regarding the sustainability of investment, for every risk that exists, we must have a perfect counter plan.

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October 07, 2023, 01:49:05 PM
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Calculated risk doesn't work every single time, especially if you don't excel at math, or you messed up analyzing the chart and confidently entered a trade hoping for a bigger profit that ended up liquidated that made you frustrated, depressed, angry, and lost in your madness while chasing your losses forgetting the golden rule, always calculate the risk.
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October 07, 2023, 02:10:23 PM
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Calculated risk doesn't work every single time, especially if you don't excel at math, or you messed up analyzing the chart and confidently entered a trade hoping for a bigger profit that ended up liquidated that made you frustrated, depressed, angry, and lost in your madness while chasing your losses forgetting the golden rule, always calculate the risk.
Calculated risk does not necessarily mean that you will have to use a pen and some kind of calculations before you take the risk. Calculated risk means that the risk should have high possiblity of turning positive than turning negative.

It is better not to take a risk than taking an uncalculated risk. An uncalculated risk one step closer to failure and should be avoided by all means. Maybe having a simple savings will be better than taking an uncalculated risk

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October 07, 2023, 03:14:25 PM
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Don't forget that risk is venturing into the uncertainty, so endeavor to keep it a calculated risk before diving into the final decision.
The most important thing you didn't explain is "what does 'calculated risk' mean?" otherwise it is just an abstract idea you are raising here that is not going to help anybody. Here when you say "risk is venturing into the uncertainty" I have to disagree because you don't venture in uncertainty, you venture in certainty that has some small doses of uncertainty which is the risk.
I justify this because without an explanation what is specifically intended is just an abstract idea that makes people only know that they can write.
IMO, the phrase calculated risk can only be understood by traders who have experience with losses and profits during their work.
OP is trying to reconcile the risks of trading with the risks one would accept in life. Again, he wants to prove that he wants to show that he really understands the risk opinion he is trying to show. I don't necessarily agree with it because life is not like trading as I understand it.

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October 07, 2023, 04:15:46 PM
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Don't forget that risk is venturing into the uncertainty, so endeavor to keep it a calculated risk before diving into the final decision.
The most important thing you didn't explain is "what does 'calculated risk' mean?" otherwise it is just an abstract idea you are raising here that is not going to help anybody. Here when you say "risk is venturing into the uncertainty" I have to disagree because you don't venture in uncertainty, you venture in certainty that has some small doses of uncertainty which is the risk.
Is never an abstract idea, nothing can be achieved in life without risk. The term calculated risk as contained on my post has to do with risk that can be managed by the one undertaking it. Taking risk beyond your strength  can result to a long term damage.

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I justify this because without an explanation what is specifically intended is just an abstract idea that makes people only know that they can write.
In this case your judgement is totally wrong to have assumed that. I believe one or two must have gained something. This kind of post help people engage in critical and evaluative thinking which will help them figure out a calculated risk for every step they are about taking. If read through the reply, you will see people with different idea of what the term calculated risk means. If a newbie in trading and other investment stumble across this, I believe their mind will be lit up with knowledge.
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October 07, 2023, 04:21:32 PM
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In the bitcoin market volatility range, basically the trading risk is down to 0 even though you read the possibility is very small. And all external factors can contribute to the risk, for example the security of the exchange itself. That's why the calculated risk is that all the money you put in is a total risk. In short, “trade what you can afford to lose”.

No one is here to lose the money. So yes practically no one thinks about this statement that they will invest what they can afford to lose. Yes there is a better version for this. Invest only that amount, which is not required on a daily basis. Don’t invest the funds, which are kept for emergency situations. Take calculated risks and invest using proper budget. If you follow this then you can get little yet steady profits and your mental health will also become balance.

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October 07, 2023, 06:58:41 PM
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Stop loss in trading is very important, especially if we trade futures, to prevent further losses. Even in long-term investment matters, we have to have a plan where we have to be brave enough to make decisions if something undesirable happens. Regarding the sustainability of investment, for every risk that exists, we must have a perfect counter plan.
We must always assume that things are not going to go our way, this way when this inevitably happens we are going to be ready for it and take the necessary countermeasures, however many people do not like this approach as they think such a person is just being negative without reason, but it is precisely when things take a turn for the worse when the preparations of that person will shine, and their ability to recover even from the most difficult circumstances will allow them to continue unhindered towards their goal.

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October 07, 2023, 07:07:34 PM
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Stop loss in trading is very important, especially if we trade futures, to prevent further losses.
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Stop loss usage has absolutely nothing to do with whether you trade futures or not - why should it?
Stop losses are a standard tool in any sensible trading strategy. Anyone who says otherwise has never traded.

I put stop losses in almost every trade. If the trade is already positive, the limit is moved up until I reach my desired target. If the trade becomes negative, a sensibly set stop loss saves me from losing too much money - or coins, of course.

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October 07, 2023, 07:41:54 PM
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Hmm, so this topic is all about risk management, no doubt without risk a big achievement can't be accomplished but at the same time in trading calculated risk means risk management. In trading, whether it's crypto or any other financial market, safe play is not at all rewarding you need to get used to taking risks. in risk management emotions play a vital role and for proper risk management, proper emotion control is required market sentiment provokes psychology.

In short, to achieve both of the goals we need to decide on a scale for our trading discipline imagine a scale that you will make X amount of profit in your timeline and Y amount of Loss. Whined you hit any of the ends on the scale exit the market and reset your timeline. it will greatly help in risk management while training and emotion control as by-products.
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October 07, 2023, 08:31:13 PM
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I think that most of the calculated risks taken in any endeavor might just be a too-careful approach to a situation and it may not produce as much result as when one happens to stumble upon the opportunity and just takes the risk instantly.

Many of the our millionaires and billionaires often times found themselves in such a situation and took a chance without calculating any risk, because that is how the big money is made without thinking toomuch about it.
The bottom line is to however always be prepared in any area of interest and wait for the right moment to take the risk.

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Stop loss in trading is very important, especially if we trade futures, to prevent further losses. Even in long-term investment matters, we have to have a plan where we have to be brave enough to make decisions if something undesirable happens. Regarding the sustainability of investment, for every risk that exists, we must have a perfect counter plan.
There will be no perfect counterplan, everything will inevitably have some faults or only run about 50%-70%.
That's good enough and will provide some advantages.

Especially for long-term investment matters, of course, it will use a variety of strategies.
Not only one strategy, of course, there must be a backup strategy to back up the first strategy so that it still works according to the desired path even though it is not perfect.

The trading method used the safest is spot trading, but this also depends on how one does it and how well mastered the trade.

Futures trading is more risky and Stop Loss is mandatory.
But when the trader is good enough and can read candles and bitcoin movements, it provides bigger and faster profits.
The higher the risk the higher the profit.
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I think that most of the calculated risks taken in any endeavor might just be a too-careful approach to a situation and it may not produce as much result as when one happens to stumble upon the opportunity and just takes the risk instantly.

Many of the our millionaires and billionaires often times found themselves in such a situation and took a chance without calculating any risk, because that is how the big money is made without thinking toomuch about it.
The bottom line is to however always be prepared in any area of interest and wait for the right moment to take the risk.

The risk can only be partially calculated. There is always the possibility of force majeure or elementary health or technical problems. You can't be absolutely sure of your calculations, otherwise you could end up with a broken trough at any moment. Life dictates its own conditions
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October 07, 2023, 09:00:19 PM
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There is one adventure that i will never try in trading is opening a future position with high leverage. Future trading with high leverage can multiply your profits significantly but it will multiply your risk as well. I prefer to trade in the spot market so that if price goes down I can lower my average and exit that trade in break even. Even I can hold that position for as long as I want which reduces any risk significantly.

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October 07, 2023, 09:11:05 PM
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You are preaching for risk involved in cryptocurrency trading and other businesses both internet and manual businesses,  I know quite well that risk measure can take us to advantages and can also take us to disadvantages, what I really understand risk, is that it has two impact in businesse either it results out positively or negatively, so through entrepreneurship, the definition let me comprehend that a risk taker is pron or liable to become successful at any point in time, and sometimes, theirs something I believe directly concerning risk in business if you don't have the mindset of taking risk in business you will find it very difficult to be successful in business.

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Calculated risk doesn't work every single time, especially if you don't excel at math, or you messed up analyzing the chart and confidently entered a trade hoping for a bigger profit that ended up liquidated that made you frustrated, depressed, angry, and lost in your madness while chasing your losses forgetting the golden rule, always calculate the risk.
Well, obviously if you can’t analyze the situation well, and the factors that put you in that situation, then you will never know how to calculate the risk. Taking risk is good, but it will be a lot better if you know how to calculate the risk to achieve positive outcome. In short, never enter such trading or investment if you know you are not yet capable to manage and overcome all the risk. Otherwise, you enter such risk and still end up losing again and again because you are not prepared for it.

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I think that most of the calculated risks taken in any endeavor might just be a too-careful approach to a situation and it may not produce as much result as when one happens to stumble upon the opportunity and just takes the risk instantly.

Many of the our millionaires and billionaires often times found themselves in such a situation and took a chance without calculating any risk, because that is how the big money is made without thinking toomuch about it.
The bottom line is to however always be prepared in any area of interest and wait for the right moment to take the risk.
I almost got screwed over trying to minimize risk and approach staking stablecoins as a safe option. Not only was it not worth my time, but I also ended up suffering a loss on what I was considering to be a safe but low-yielding investment. I'm not saying that staking stablecoins is bad, but sometimes, trying to approach less risky tactics isn't always as safe as we thought it'd be. With that being said, trying to find the safest options in the market is often as risky as not taking any risk, because the risk of loss of capital is still there, and when and if it happens, you'll be caught off guard without achieving any significant yields either.

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Well to be sincere with you, everyone who had taken risk and had come with a success story have one common line of story to tell us all that they have taken a calculated risk. Every investor, trader and the rest should learn to take a well calculated risk.

Calculated risks are the best type of risk because you have already calculated all the possible outcomes and you're sure you'll make gains. If you're investing or trading, you have to make calculation so you don't take decision that'll only leave you in regrets. Trading or investing in shitcoins aren't calculated risk because you don't know the future of those coins as they can stop trading anytime but many individual makes the mistake of believing they'll make big profits from them.

When you invest in Bitcoin or you decide to trade Bitcoin and other top altcoins as Ethereum, you're taking a calculated risk. In life risk has to be made or we won't leave our present condition. Not taking any risk is the worst decision any individual can make because you'll be trapped at the level you're while those who take risk will progress.

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October 08, 2023, 09:30:06 AM
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Yes, it sounds very beautiful and modern “The biggest risk is not taking any risks at all”
You very correctly noted that the risk must be well calculated, otherwise it can lead to large losses and huge losses.
If we are talking about trading, then we will definitely have to deal with risk and there is no escape from it. But I believe that there is a justified risk and a reasonable risk, and there is a stupid and thoughtless one. Thank you

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In trading, there will be risks and every gambler must be ready to face the risks and know how to overcome the risks. That is why every trader and investor must learn what he wants before starting and keep learning until he really understands it. That's because trading in the crypto market or investing in crypto requires sufficient knowledge to avoid experiencing losses.

And even though it's difficult to understand, we can understand it, especially if we can find out and find more information. Traders and investors will only know how to manage their risks by trading, investing, or practicing what they have learned. And when he puts into practice what he has learned, that can help him to better understand the real thing about trading and investing.

He also has to continue to learn more if he wants to improve his analytical skills because the changes in the market require him to adapt to the situations and conditions that occur in the market. And with learning, he cannot make profits like other traders or investors.

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October 08, 2023, 10:07:19 AM
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Life is all about taking calculated risks. You start that when you are nothing but a sperm swimming towards the ova risking yourself against all others to win the race.

In risk management what is most pertinent to the members of this forum is trading and gambling. Trading should be limited to spot trading to reduce the risk and gambling should be avoided altogether. There is a point in trading with increased risk like taking up altcoin pairs, going for margin, leverage and all, but you might lose sleep over it.

Risks come in all forms and in every aspect of life, there is not hard and fast rule how to deal with them. Its more like situations where your quick thinking can save you.

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In risk management what is most pertinent to the members of this forum is trading and gambling. Trading should be limited to spot trading to reduce the risk and gambling should be avoided altogether. There is a point in trading with increased risk like taking up altcoin pairs, going for margin, leverage and all, but you might lose sleep over it.
I see it a bit differently, but in principle I agree with you that you have to separate trading and gambling (in the sense of taking very risky trades, not gambling on platforms like Roobet).

I certainly "gamble" with my trades. However, I have also set aside an extra budget for this and see it for me as entertainment, such as sports betting or a visit to the cinema. My budget for this is very low, but I am still happy about risky trades that are successful, because they are much more worthwhile than standard trades. Of course, this hardly ever happens and is probably more like winning the lottery.

So you can gamble as a trader, but you must always be aware that this is for entertainment.

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However, the worst risk in the world which I am here to advice everyone at this moment is that it is MOST RISKY  not to take risk.
All great men of our time, have taken one risk and the other, break the barricade of fears and venture into the uncertainty as you uncover your potential.



I couldn't agree more.
I believe that the bravest people are the people who take risks, but a calculated one. Most of the success stories of successful persons involves taking risks. But you should still assess the potential outcomes of your risks and not just expect something good without knowing the "risk". I also think that taking risks enables you to gain experiences in which will help you in the long run. Again, this is not about risking something and just hope for the best without doing anything. You still have to have careful analysis and make an informed decisions for better outcomes. Afterall, taking risks sometimes means a 50/50 probability but making a calculated risks will help you to increase your odds.



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the worst risk in the world which I am here to advice everyone at this moment is that it is MOST RISKY  not to take risk.
All great men of our time, have taken one risk and the other, break the barricade of fears and venture into the uncertainty as you uncover your potential.


There are risks in every business and trade in the world but it has never happened that all people leave the business or trade because of the risks. Everyone knows that in any business that they do, there can be loss, but it is never the intention to take risk without thinking in any business. Rather, every business and trade requires experience and knowledge, and all these things come from learning, after which you can take risks in that business.

Business or trade is not a venture that you take without thinking, Rather, in business or trade, you have to use your experience, knowledge and skills to minimize your risk of loss, and you have to work hard to improve your profit rate. People who have experience and expertise are participating in all the business and trade of the world. Just as in trading we take a trade by making our complete analysis and estimates, then the purpose is that we take risk based on our experience.


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there is no growth without pain, no success without courageous action!!

In some fields, success has different struggles and here we discuss trading, the risk in trading can be minimized as long as you understand how to be a good trader.  What you must learn in trading to minimize the risk of loss is to learn basic trading skills, diligently read the latest news and always upgrade your knowledge, if you take risks without you having good supplies then it's the same as if you were gambling, think about that again.

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Stop loss in trading is very important, especially if we trade futures, to prevent further losses.
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Stop loss usage has absolutely nothing to do with whether you trade futures or not - why should it?
Stop losses are a standard tool in any sensible trading strategy. Anyone who says otherwise has never traded.

I put stop losses in almost every trade. If the trade is already positive, the limit is moved up until I reach my desired target. If the trade becomes negative, a sensibly set stop loss saves me from losing too much money - or coins, of course.

Hmm, good physiology that you decide your losing level before entering the trade, but don't you think it really creates a gap in your physiology as it can be due to the un-confidential decision, I know a stop is just in case point still, while trading in a volatile market after all the analysis and decision when you take a trade and set a stop loss it gets hit and the market recovers even goes in profit what a trader got in that situation? (It May sound fictional But that's a fact at least in 90% of cases in hitting stoploss).

A completely opposing side exists as well but that is not the topic now in risk management. triggers are good but while being depend on them in a volatile market not a good strategy.




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If you talk about results, there's no risk in not taking risk. But if you talk about your possible future then that's how it becomes risky.
It's because you take the example of early bitcoin adopters, they have took risk and believed on it in the early days when no one believes on it.
That was the risk but it's now worth it and people won't have the same risk as them that has been taken before.


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Many of the our millionaires and billionaires often times found themselves in such a situation and took a chance without calculating any risk, because that is how the big money is made without thinking toomuch about it.
The bottom line is to however always be prepared in any area of interest and wait for the right moment to take the risk.
I don't think so. You don't need to be like them, you already know it's not good and know what is good or better for you.
Still, I can do the right way or better way to become successful, small or big, it's already profits and success for me and I believe in the process, don't gamble.
Risk management is a must.
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October 09, 2023, 03:56:14 AM
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In all matters of life, trading can change our attitude in facing real life problems. Of course, in responding to a problem, we must also have an analysis of the impacts that will occur if we take a step. Therefore, in determining our steps, we will take the smallest risk of course, or dare to speculate to get a bigger goal, and we ourselves have to decide, especially since we already have the calculations, so we already have good anticipation.

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October 09, 2023, 03:34:40 PM
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Yes, it sounds very beautiful and modern “The biggest risk is not taking any risks at all”
You very correctly noted that the risk must be well calculated, otherwise it can lead to large losses and huge losses.
If we are talking about trading, then we will definitely have to deal with risk and there is no escape from it. But I believe that there is a justified risk and a reasonable risk, and there is a stupid and thoughtless one. Thank you
It sounds wrong but it's actually right. One example would be is if we don't take a risk to apply and get a job, we won't have a money that we can use to buy the basic necessities in life. It gives a huge risk in our health. There are risks in most of the things that we want to do but if we will prepare (put some knowledge and skills) there is a huge chance that we can get successful with it. Instead of escaping the risk, it's better to learn how to live with it. Once you grasp things, it's now going to be easy for you and you can even increase your leverage's because sometimes we are looking for that special kind of thrill which risks can only provide.

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October 09, 2023, 04:09:32 PM
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Boom, the headline cut your attention right? That's perfect . There are lots of risks in business, investment and trading which is not new to anyone. They have become a common life phenomenal.
Well, it surely did get my attention because I said to myself, "what the heck? Business/trading isn't an adventure" immediately I read the caption. A risky adventure would be something like crossing a busy highway without first checking for incoming vehicles. It's a needles one, anyway. By the way, that genre is called business because it keeps us busy.

Pedantically, business shouldn't be classed as an adventure. If you talk of it being risky, yes. However, the type of risk it should be associated with has to be one thought out before embarking on the venture. Everything life offers come with a certain amount of risk. Do we indulge all? No, of course. We pick the ones that suit our appetite and temperament. Like you rightly submitted, it's risk on its own not taking risk. So, we choose our risk and try to conquer them. That's how man survives and makes a living.

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Boom, the headline cut your attention right? That's perfect . There are lots of risks in business, investment and trading which is not new to anyone. They have become a common life phenomenal.
 However, the worst risk in the world which I am here to advice everyone at this moment is that it is MOST RISKY  not to take risk.
All great men of our time, have taken one risk and the other, break the barricade of fears and venture into the uncertainty as you uncover your potential.

Well to be sincere with you, everyone who had taken risk and had come with a success story have one common line of story to tell us all that they have taken a calculated risk. Every investor, trader and the rest should learn to take a well calculated risk.

 To know more and gain more experience requires taking some risk that will help you learn. As a trader, just reading without practicing what you have learnt which involve some level of risk does you no good than having an ordinary head knowledge.
 Don't forget that risk is venturing into the uncertainty, so endeavor to keep it a calculated risk before diving into the final decision.

This is not just about trading, this is about anything connecting to human life. Let this words be taken beyond the four walls of trading to every aspect of human life and see the result thereafter. Most important message here is to take a calculated risk


The greatest RISK is not really getting any RISK on which this turns out to be a known word and something that not all really that bothered on following into and really just going into the safe side but in exchange then they didnt really make out any progress in their life and this is why we do really see different situations and conditions comparing into those people who do take risks and to those who didnt. Yes, its recommendable because we wont really be that progressive if we wont really be taking up some step further. The issue on here is that not all would really be having that courage on doing such thing and this is why they have decided that they would really be contented on what they do currently have on which its not bad because we cant really be able to force them on what are the things that they should do since its their own lives then it would really be just that their right on what are the things that they would really be involving. It is really just that depending on you which things you would really be tending to get involved with. If you do love a life on having that kind of situation on which you could really be able to buy that you do want then you should really make yourself that do extra work and extra risks because if not then you wont really be seeing yourself anytime soon.

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October 09, 2023, 07:23:51 PM
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In the bitcoin market volatility range, basically the trading risk is down to 0 even though you read the possibility is very small. And all external factors can contribute to the risk, for example the security of the exchange itself. That's why the calculated risk is that all the money you put in is a total risk. In short, “trade what you can afford to lose”.
Bitcoin's volatility is so high and that makes it a very risky coin. The more the risk we face if we are doing trades. So I don't know if where you got that zero risk of yours. There are no zero risks when it comes to making money in the crypto world, and I think Bitcoin won't be volatile in its own if without the factors that surrounds it like for example; the demand of the public. The demand can also be affected by the news and others.

I think it's possible to calculate the risk but it may not be totally accurate. So that's right that in order to not regret just in case we lose all our allocated capital, it's better to just use the money that we can easily lose.

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October 10, 2023, 01:22:47 AM
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Stop loss in trading is very important, especially if we trade futures, to prevent further losses. Even in long-term investment matters, we have to have a plan where we have to be brave enough to make decisions if something undesirable happens. Regarding the sustainability of investment, for every risk that exists, we must have a perfect counter plan.
We must always assume that things are not going to go our way, this way when this inevitably happens we are going to be ready for it and take the necessary countermeasures, however many people do not like this approach as they think such a person is just being negative without reason, but it is precisely when things take a turn for the worse when the preparations of that person will shine, and their ability to recover even from the most difficult circumstances will allow them to continue unhindered towards their goal.

Maybe for some people this is not a good choice or they are too gambling in every step without knowing the limits of an opportunity. Therefore, it is better for us to limit every step as a prevention of worse events. I'm sure pro traders, even well-known stock investors, have plans like that to save their assets.

Stop loss usage has absolutely nothing to do with whether you trade futures or not - why should it?
Stop losses are a standard tool in any sensible trading strategy. Anyone who says otherwise has never traded.

I put stop losses in almost every trade. If the trade is already positive, the limit is moved up until I reach my desired target. If the trade becomes negative, a sensibly set stop loss saves me from losing too much money - or coins, of course.

That's a good routine in my opinion. Hopefully many of us will imitate your positive things in every trade we make.


Especially for long-term investment matters, of course, it will use a variety of strategies.
Not only one strategy, of course, there must be a backup strategy to back up the first strategy so that it still works according to the desired path even though it is not perfect.

The trading method used the safest is spot trading, but this also depends on how one does it and how well mastered the trade.


I agree with your voice regarding spot trading. Spot trading just requires patience and discipline. Make a technical analysis then every time we have money we enter it at certain levels that have been set and wait until the profit reaches the target. Of course, this will seem boring for daily traders, but in terms of investment, long term trading is still the leading category for pro traders. in reaping huge profits.

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October 10, 2023, 02:04:42 AM
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````that it is MOST RISKY  not to take risk.

You see, life itself is a bit of a gamble, right? I mean, even when we're just chilling in our room, there's still that tiny chance we won't wake up the next morning. It's like a constant game of risk we're playing. We all have dreams and ambitions, and if we're not satisfied with where we're at right now, we've got to take steps to improve our financial situation.

Now, when it comes to making those improvements, it often means venturing into the world of trading, especially here in the crypto space. We're all here talking about these opportunities that can seriously boost our financial well-being. But here's the thing, my friend, it's not just about taking any old risks. It's about being smart, about taking what we call 'calculated risks.'

In other words, it's about doing your homework, analyzing the market, and making informed decisions. It's not about blind luck, but rather understanding the game and making choices that give us the best odds. That's the way to make those dreams of a better life come true.

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Boom, the headline cut your attention right? That's perfect . There are lots of risks in business, investment and trading which is not new to anyone. They have become a common life phenomenal.
Well, it surely did get my attention because I said to myself, "what the heck? Business/trading isn't an adventure" immediately I read the caption. A risky adventure would be something like crossing a busy highway without first checking for incoming vehicles. It's a needles one, anyway. By the way, that genre is called business because it keeps us busy.

Pedantically, business shouldn't be classed as an adventure. If you talk of it being risky, yes. However, the type of risk it should be associated with has to be one thought out before embarking on the venture. Everything life offers come with a certain amount of risk. Do we indulge all? No, of course. We pick the ones that suit our appetite and temperament. Like you rightly submitted, it's risk on its own not taking risk. So, we choose our risk and try to conquer them. That's how man survives and makes a living.
Lol, same to me as well. I think it's quite obvious that these type of headlines are the things that people use when they are dealing with newspapers as well. If you are a journalist, and you write online instead of paper, then you write these type of headlines to your article to get peoples attention, they are called clickbaits as well.

I would say "adventure" is something else and should be considered a bit different in the end, risky and adventure are not the same things I agree with that but that doesn't mean that it doesn't mean that we can't really do something that could change it all that long. I hope that the best thing we can do about this is to realize it's an adventure of a life time in that sense, but risky as well.
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October 10, 2023, 04:01:28 AM
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To be successful as a businessman we must take risks, if we can risk our lives to ride the world's most terrifying roller coasters, why can't we risk money to succeed in life? 
Wise people say take money risk instead of life risk because money risk can change your life. 

When Elon Musk first sent his satellite to the moon but the first time he did not succeed. He failed three times but he did not give up. The fourth time he successfully landed his rocket on the moon. Elon Musk would not have succeeded if he had failed first and not taken risks later. 

As many people who have succeeded in business we don't just look at their success we have to see the real story behind their success, behind everyone's success there is a story of failure and those who overcome that failure and take risks are the ones who eventually become successful.
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October 10, 2023, 04:10:45 AM
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I think it's possible to calculate the risk but it may not be totally accurate. So that's right that in order to not regret just in case we lose all our allocated capital, it's better to just use the money that we can easily lose.

Absolutely, you hit the nail on the head there. When you don't calculate the risks, it's like going in with this unwavering belief in your success rate, almost like relying solely on luck, which isn't the best strategy. Luck tends to be a fickle friend, it can't always be on our side, and if we rely on it too heavily, we're likely to end up losing our money. All our efforts would go to waste, and we'd just keep failing. That's why it's crucial to take calculated risks and make informed decisions, especially in areas like gambling or investments.

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October 10, 2023, 09:13:30 AM
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I think it's possible to calculate the risk but it may not be totally accurate. So that's right that in order to not regret just in case we lose all our allocated capital, it's better to just use the money that we can easily lose.

Absolutely, you hit the nail on the head there. When you don't calculate the risks, it's like going in with this unwavering belief in your success rate, almost like relying solely on luck, which isn't the best strategy. Luck tends to be a fickle friend, it can't always be on our side, and if we rely on it too heavily, we're likely to end up losing our money. All our efforts would go to waste, and we'd just keep failing. That's why it's crucial to take calculated risks and make informed decisions, especially in areas like gambling or investments.

You have to follow whatever the setup that you create, limiting everything in terms of time and money when you are inside gambling
is very important, it gives you the chance to complete the enjoyment.

I mean, either you win or you lose if you set up your limitation and not to allow yourself to exceed from it will be just a fine day for you after playing.

You can quit/stop without any regrets that you lose too much or if you manage to quit while you are still in positive then it will add up
with the fun that you experienced after playing.
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October 13, 2023, 06:20:00 PM
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Though it's true that one needs to take at least some amount of risk in order to gain something because as they say, there is no gain without risk. However, I believe venturing into the uncertainty and taking calculated risks are contradictive sentences because one cannot take calculated risks when they are venturing into the uncertainty, and when you venture into the uncertainty, that means that the risks you are about to take are also uncertain so there can't be any calculation in that sense.

Taking trading as an example, a calculated risk would be investing in a cryptocurrency that you know has been performing pretty well for quite some time and it is now lower than usual, when you invest in that, you are risking your money but it's calculated since you know there are higher chances of it giving you profit. On the other hand, if you buy a cryptocurrency that has just been launched and there is no history for it, and all you are risking your money on is the trust you have in the project and that's it, now that is what we can call venturing into the uncertainty and there is basically no way you can calculate the amount of risk in this case.

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October 13, 2023, 06:29:32 PM
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I get your point here. Even if we don't totally lose money because we don't take a risk, but the profit potential if we don't take risk will be lost.

Others are negative minded, who are very afraid of losing money  which is what will prevent them from taking risks. But if we have enough knowledge on the things that we do, we can minimize the risk.

Honestly, if you're not taking risks you will stay what you are but if you take a risk you will go far in life. This is true to life.

Without risks, we can't reach to a position where the top people are. Maybe things will be going better, but in the place we have in mind, it would be very difficult for a person to reach that position without taking risks.

If someone doesn't take risks we don't say that they are negative-minded or they just don't know about trading, sometimes a person has more burdens on him in his daily life or his family, For example, if a person has some problems in money, so definitely he like to invest, trade, etc. but he can't take risks as he couldn't take risk at this time. Also, about a field, thing, etc. we have to gain much knowledge about that. In this way taking the next steps will be easy for everyone.

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October 13, 2023, 07:25:18 PM
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Though it's true that one needs to take at least some amount of risk in order to gain something because as they say, there is no gain without risk. However, I believe venturing into the uncertainty and taking calculated risks are contradictive sentences because one cannot take calculated risks when they are venturing into the uncertainty, and when you venture into the uncertainty, that means that the risks you are about to take are also uncertain so there can't be any calculation in that sense.
I agree, it's contradictive statement because you can't calculate risks with uncertain situations. It is true that there should be always a risk in order to gain success, but wouldn't it be good if the risks are calculated? you don't need to walk in room with the lights off, you can definitely read the room and study how are you able to cross that room.

Taking trading as an example, a calculated risk would be investing in a cryptocurrency that you know has been performing pretty well for quite some time and it is now lower than usual, when you invest in that, you are risking your money but it's calculated since you know there are higher chances of it giving you profit. On the other hand, if you buy a cryptocurrency that has just been launched and there is no history for it, and all you are risking your money on is the trust you have in the project and that's it, now that is what we can call venturing into the uncertainty and there is basically no way you can calculate the amount of risk in this case.
But isn't it in trading there is no calculated risks? I mean yes we can manage the risk but it is not measurable, often happens to be the exact same way as we plan it? Indicators might be useful to know the risks of investing or trading but these indicators aren't accurate at all. In my opinion, cryptocurrency trading isn't for the safe player, I've witnessed it all and heard some of the most breaking stories on crypto taking risks they thought is fine, and ended in cruel way.
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Absolutely, you hit the nail on the head there. When you don't calculate the risks, it's like going in with this unwavering belief in your success rate, almost like relying solely on luck, which isn't the best strategy. Luck tends to be a fickle friend, it can't always be on our side, and if we rely on it too heavily, we're likely to end up losing our money. All our efforts would go to waste, and we'd just keep failing. That's why it's crucial to take calculated risks and make informed decisions, especially in areas like gambling or investments.

Not all risks can be calculated, as life often likes to present various unpleasant surprises - for example, health problems or problems with loved ones. And in this case, the whole well-constructed plan starts to fall apart. It is always necessary to take into account that any situation is possible. Life can be cruel
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Boom, the headline cut your attention right? That's perfect . There are lots of risks in business, investment and trading which is not new to anyone. They have become a common life phenomenal.
 However, the worst risk in the world which I am here to advice everyone at this moment is that it is MOST RISKY  not to take risk.
All great men of our time, have taken one risk and the other, break the barricade of fears and venture into the uncertainty as you uncover your potential.

Well to be sincere with you, everyone who had taken risk and had come with a success story have one common line of story to tell us all that they have taken a calculated risk. Every investor, trader and the rest should learn to take a well calculated risk.

 To know more and gain more experience requires taking some risk that will help you learn. As a trader, just reading without practicing what you have learnt which involve some level of risk does you no good than having an ordinary head knowledge.
 Don't forget that risk is venturing into the uncertainty, so endeavor to keep it a calculated risk before diving into the final decision.

This is not just about trading, this is about anything connecting to human life. Let this words be taken beyond the four walls of trading to every aspect of human life and see the result thereafter. Most important message here is to take a calculated risk


Having no risks taking decision wouldnt really be making yourself that having no progress or doesnt really have the chance for you to make yourself that being successful and would really be that stagnant.
We do know that it isnt really that something so simple though because taking risks does involved on losing money too but since you are aiming for something better then it would really be just that normal that you would really be needing to take risks and if not then you wont really be gain nothing. Its true that this isnt really that just limited on investment or trading purposes or area but also in other things in life
on which it would really be needing up for us to make some good decision making and assessment whether we should act or would really be that sitting idle.
We do know that in order to have that progress then it would really be just that normal that you would really be needing to have those typical actions and considerations that you should be making.
Sitting still and doesnt really do something will really be leading to nothing.

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Well to be sincere with you, everyone who had taken risk and had come with a success story have one common line of story to tell us all that they have taken a calculated risk. Every investor, trader and the rest should learn to take a well calculated risk.
Some risks cannot be really calculated, no matter what you you bargain for before taking the risk, you will find some things more, that make it more risky. The mindset of a risk taker should be not to expect an easy risk, but to be  prepared for whatever happens with a courage to see it to the end. Calculating the risk before you take it is good but can also make a potential risk taker change their mind because they think they do not have what it takes to pull through after considering and calculating the risk they are about to take. Be courageous when taking risk.

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October 13, 2023, 09:30:29 PM
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Some risks cannot be really calculated, no matter what you you bargain for before taking the risk, you will find some things more, that make it more risky. The mindset of a risk taker should be not to expect an easy risk, but to be  prepared for whatever happens with a courage to see it to the end. Calculating the risk before you take it is good but can also make a potential risk taker change their mind because they think they do not have what it takes to pull through after considering and calculating the risk they are about to take. Be courageous when taking risk.

Sometimes your situation cause the risk taking in your life,mostly due to huge expenses caused by your parents or grand parents.You are forced to earn more money from different sources.So the risk get into you by the emergency situation.The risk in your life give us the more lesson and build ourself to the good way.Mentally you become the stronger person as compared to the normal people.The calculating the outcomes of the risk before taking the risk help us to keep some backup plan before risk taking.
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Boom, the headline cut your attention right? That's perfect . There are lots of risks in business, investment and trading which is not new to anyone. They have become a common life phenomenal.
Well, it surely did get my attention because I said to myself, "what the heck? Business/trading isn't an adventure" immediately I read the caption. A risky adventure would be something like crossing a busy highway without first checking for incoming vehicles. It's a needles one, anyway. By the way, that genre is called business because it keeps us busy.

Pedantically, business shouldn't be classed as an adventure. If you talk of it being risky, yes. However, the type of risk it should be associated with has to be one thought out before embarking on the venture. Everything life offers come with a certain amount of risk. Do we indulge all? No, of course. We pick the ones that suit our appetite and temperament. Like you rightly submitted, it's risk on its own not taking risk. So, we choose our risk and try to conquer them. That's how man survives and makes a living.

Well, to be honest, I see beginners in the crypto community still buying Bitcoin despite the fact that they don't fully comprehend it. They merely act in this manner because they observe or hear about it in the news on TV and believe that Bitcoin will eventually reach a high value.

But even so, if we don't give something we believe in a chance, how will we ever know how it will turn out? Then, if we think that the only way we can make money off of our investments is if we have the guts to take the risk that most others are afraid of and worry about, then we can be sure that nothing will change in our current careers or in our personal lives.


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Some risks cannot be really calculated, no matter what you you bargain for before taking the risk, you will find some things more, that make it more risky. The mindset of a risk taker should be not to expect an easy risk, but to be  prepared for whatever happens with a courage to see it to the end. Calculating the risk before you take it is good but can also make a potential risk taker change their mind because they think they do not have what it takes to pull through after considering and calculating the risk they are about to take. Be courageous when taking risk.

Sometimes your situation cause the risk taking in your life,mostly due to huge expenses caused by your parents or grand parents.You are forced to earn more money from different sources.So the risk get into you by the emergency situation.The risk in your life give us the more lesson and build ourself to the good way.Mentally you become the stronger person as compared to the normal people.The calculating the outcomes of the risk before taking the risk help us to keep some backup plan before risk taking.

What I understand when people dare to take risks with the possibility of smaller than success will allow someone to think more critically with what they do and accept the impact if he does not succeed in accordance with his plan and expectations, but people who take risks will have more probability of getting the goal What he wants, because he will always be demanded to learn and understand even if they have failed in previous times.

Sometimes we have to distinguish careless people and people who dare to take risks, of course, people who take the risk of thinking more about the possibility of the decisions taken, compared to people who are careless in making decisions both in trade or other things.

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Well, losing is so painful but we also remember that no risk, no gain. No matter what kind of investment we have to start, risk is still there and we can possibly lose time especially if we don't manage too carefully. It was very clear to us that no investment that has no risk and no way we can avoid it. The more we become afraid to face reality, the more we lose our courage and hope. In order to improve our living and reach our goals, we must have to take risks and we are obliged to do that otherwise, we'd rather stop thinking about our goals.

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Well, losing is so painful but we also remember that no risk, no gain. No matter what kind of investment we have to start, risk is still there and we can possibly lose time especially if we don't manage too carefully. It was very clear to us that no investment that has no risk and no way we can avoid it. The more we become afraid to face reality, the more we lose our courage and hope. In order to improve our living and reach our goals, we must have to take risks and we are obliged to do that otherwise, we'd rather stop thinking about our goals.
The question we need to always ask ourselves before we take any decision is if the risk we are taking is justified when compared with what we are trying to gain? Because if that is not the case then we are making a bad business even if we were to win, it is because of this that investing in shitcoins is always a bad decision even if you were to get good results, as if you keep doing this then sooner rather than later you will fail and you will lose whatever money you won plus a great deal of your capital as well.

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October 14, 2023, 09:00:39 PM
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To know more and gain more experience requires taking some risk that will help you learn. As a trader, just reading without practicing what you have learnt which involve some level of risk does you no good than having an ordinary head knowledge.
 Don't forget that risk is venturing into the uncertainty, so endeavor to keep it a calculated risk before diving into the final decision.
That's how life is, nothing is without risk. Of course everything has its own risks, even working in your comfort zone of course still has risks. It's just that the level of risk is low or high, that's what makes the difference.
When it comes to risks in crypto trading, they will also vary.

A new trader or newcomer to crypto trading definitely has a higher risk compared to professionals. And if it is related to experience, yes of course, even a professional trader has definitely been a newbie. what makes the difference is how the next process goes. Of course, our ability to take risks varies, this will also depend on our personal provisions as well. For example, newbies with fairly good knowledge regarding trading and analysis, and equipped with risk and financial management, as well as emotional management, will definitely be better prepared to accept the risks, compared to newbies who are really new and have not prepared themselves well. and enough knowledge when starting trading. Both certainly have their own risks, and it is impossible for a trader to never lose their money in trading. surely they have lost money.

The next difference is the trader's attitude when facing trading results, both gains and losses. They will take various lessons from this experience, especially the experience of loss. In this way, they can re-adjust their strategies and tactics as well as their trading analysis based on previous experience. And this is what makes their experience valuable day after day. All losses and gains can be used as valuable learning. This will be different when we experience losses and just give up. Or try trading other coins but without evaluating the analysis and strategy.

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October 15, 2023, 07:46:01 AM
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Well, losing is so painful but we also remember that no risk, no gain. No matter what kind of investment we have to start, risk is still there and we can possibly lose time especially if we don't manage too carefully. It was very clear to us that no investment that has no risk and no way we can avoid it. The more we become afraid to face reality, the more we lose our courage and hope. In order to improve our living and reach our goals, we must have to take risks and we are obliged to do that otherwise, we'd rather stop thinking about our goals.
That is the thing that makes a lot of people not earn a dime, fearing that you would lose and I would not be a person like that ever. I think tis obviously that a regular 9-5 job life would have been decent for me, and I would have done fine, and nobody would have been able to say something to me since I was doing my work and not like that would change anything, but that also doesn't mean that I would just do that all my life and just be happy with what I have and never aim for anything bigger with myself.

I mean I knew that I could have done better, and I found a freelancing job that is AMAZING and been investing into bitcoin with the income and now I am doing probably two three times better than what I would have done with a regular 9-5 job.

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October 15, 2023, 09:06:42 AM
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Well, losing is so painful but we also remember that no risk, no gain. No matter what kind of investment we have to start, risk is still there and we can possibly lose time especially if we don't manage too carefully. It was very clear to us that no investment that has no risk and no way we can avoid it. The more we become afraid to face reality, the more we lose our courage and hope. In order to improve our living and reach our goals, we must have to take risks and we are obliged to do that otherwise, we'd rather stop thinking about our goals.
People who dare to take risks will get a greater chance of making a profit, but I believe they do it with very careful calculations, they can't avoid risks but can reduce them, and when they finally fail the risks they take won't bother their lives at all, because it has been done very carefully, for example, when investing, they dare to choose investments that have a higher risk but do not use the money for main needs so that the investment results do not interfere with their finances at all or can ruin their life.

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Well, losing is so painful but we also remember that no risk, no gain. No matter what kind of investment we have to start, risk is still there and we can possibly lose time especially if we don't manage too carefully. It was very clear to us that no investment that has no risk and no way we can avoid it. The more we become afraid to face reality, the more we lose our courage and hope. In order to improve our living and reach our goals, we must have to take risks and we are obliged to do that otherwise, we'd rather stop thinking about our goals.
People who dare to take risks will get a greater chance of making a profit, but I believe they do it with very careful calculations, they can't avoid risks but can reduce them, and when they finally fail the risks they take won't bother their lives at all, because it has been done very carefully, for example, when investing, they dare to choose investments that have a higher risk but do not use the money for main needs so that the investment results do not interfere with their finances at all or can ruin their life.

Well, everything is risk and the key thing is to embrace it.

There's a risk of not having a profit when you don't take a trade. There's a risk of losing money when you take the trade.
That's why risk management is important. You cannot win 100%. BUT you can follow your plan and risk plan 100%. If you can follow it rigorously, with your edge working, a risk-reward in your favor at least 2:1RR, then you're fine trading. That's the calculated risk and the probability of your own edge and understanding in the market will take the rest.

You just need the discipline to follow it.

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You cannot win 100%. BUT you can follow your plan and risk plan 100%. If you can follow it rigorously, with your edge working, a risk-reward in your favor at least 2:1RR, then you're fine trading. That's the calculated risk and the probability of your own edge and understanding in the market will take the rest.

You just need the discipline to follow it.
Yes, no one can win up to a 100% ratio, but some trading plans and risk plans will work well if they are disciplined.

But can they stay disciplined?
This will be a challenge for every trader because the psychology of trading will affect their discipline in implementing the trading plan.

When psychology cannot be controlled because it is too panicky when the market is not in line with expectations, then it also affects the trading plan.
Having a backup plan is necessary to overcome the initial plan that fails due to changing market trends.
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In the bitcoin market volatility range, basically the trading risk is down to 0 even though you read the possibility is very small. And all external factors can contribute to the risk, for example the security of the exchange itself. That's why the calculated risk is that all the money you put in is a total risk. In short, “trade what you can afford to lose”.
Bitcoin's volatility is so high and that makes it a very risky coin. The more the risk we face if we are doing trades. So I don't know if where you got that zero risk of yours. There are no zero risks when it comes to making money in the crypto world, and I think Bitcoin won't be volatile in its own if without the factors that surrounds it like for example; the demand of the public. The demand can also be affected by the news and others.

I think it's possible to calculate the risk but it may not be totally accurate. So that's right that in order to not regret just in case we lose all our allocated capital, it's better to just use the money that we can easily lose.
Well, no matter how good we are at a certain point, expect that the risks will always be there. Maybe you said there are zero risks because you chose to take calculated risks, but still risks are risks, and it will always be present until you overcome them.

Volatility is what makes trading more risky to take. But we should also know that if there’s no volatility, the market will be boring to trade as there will be no exciting price surge that really motivates to keep trading the best way we can.

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In the bitcoin market volatility range, basically the trading risk is down to 0 even though you read the possibility is very small. And all external factors can contribute to the risk, for example the security of the exchange itself. That's why the calculated risk is that all the money you put in is a total risk. In short, “trade what you can afford to lose”.
Bitcoin's volatility is so high and that makes it a very risky coin. The more the risk we face if we are doing trades. So I don't know if where you got that zero risk of yours. There are no zero risks when it comes to making money in the crypto world, and I think Bitcoin won't be volatile in its own if without the factors that surrounds it like for example; the demand of the public. The demand can also be affected by the news and others.

I think it's possible to calculate the risk but it may not be totally accurate. So that's right that in order to not regret just in case we lose all our allocated capital, it's better to just use the money that we can easily lose.
Well, no matter how good we are at a certain point, expect that the risks will always be there. Maybe you said there are zero risks because you chose to take calculated risks, but still risks are risks, and it will always be present until you overcome them.

Volatility is what makes trading more risky to take. But we should also know that if there’s no volatility, the market will be boring to trade as there will be no exciting price surge that really motivates to keep trading the best way we can.

Yeah, think of it as an opportunity instead of fearing the movement. With volatility, you may have that certain advantage after learning how
things work inside this business. The deeper you understand, the more chance that you may anticipate the next run.

From that point, the risk might be lesser and the chance of earnings is better for your trading investment.

Always have that time to weight both the edge and the risk before jumping to any conclusion that may affect your judgement.
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October 16, 2023, 02:20:43 PM
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Well, no matter how good we are at a certain point, expect that the risks will always be there. Maybe you said there are zero risks because you chose to take calculated risks, but still risks are risks, and it will always be present until you overcome them.

Volatility is what makes trading more risky to take. But we should also know that if there’s no volatility, the market will be boring to trade as there will be no exciting price surge that really motivates to keep trading the best way we can.
Calculating the risks that we will take will be very good for gaining profits and of course can only be done by those who have experience in this field so that they can make the right decisions in order to reduce the risk of loss from investments. You are right, with volatility this does not make us bored in monitoring market price movements and we have to be very careful in making every decision we make.
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October 16, 2023, 02:29:20 PM
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If you are doing things right, then taking risk shouldn't be as difficult as you make it sound. Every breakthrough that has happened throughout the decades or from the beginning of time has happened because of people taking risks. Those who take risks become successful but on the other hand some doesn't.
I have heard someone say, "The magic is in those works that you are avoiding doing". It is not surprising why people would say this. If you don't come out of your comfort zone and take some risks doing different thing and finding the best one that suits you, then you will never find your dream work and become successful in life.
But I would like to discuss this. When you are provided with two options in one which you will not take such risks, but the result will come decent, and the other one is, there is a huge risk and it's a win or lose situation. Which one should you prefer?
And remember, in the second option you'll lose it all if you make a loss and if you win the profit could be 10x.
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October 16, 2023, 03:05:56 PM
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Well, no matter how good we are at a certain point, expect that the risks will always be there. Maybe you said there are zero risks because you chose to take calculated risks, but still risks are risks, and it will always be present until you overcome them.

Volatility is what makes trading more risky to take. But we should also know that if there’s no volatility, the market will be boring to trade as there will be no exciting price surge that really motivates to keep trading the best way we can.
Calculating the risks that we will take will be very good for gaining profits and of course can only be done by those who have experience in this field so that they can make the right decisions in order to reduce the risk of loss from investments. You are right, with volatility this does not make us bored in monitoring market price movements and we have to be very careful in making every decision we make.

Yes, that's right, to reduce the risk of having to make decisions in choosing and need to calculate of course this will have an impact in the future so it will make its own profit, reading market movements is not an easy thing even experienced people can still be wrong in predicting, investing in the long term is not easy not everyone can do it just like that, because there are risks in itself but of course there are also benefits if we are able to run it correctly.

But predicting market movements must be with the knowledge we have, if we predict market movements without knowledge does it guarantee to be profitable? of course not many experienced people can still be wrong in predicting especially with beginners, if you want to invest we should have someone as a guide or teacher in this case, at least if we don't have direction we must be willing to learn for ourselves by understanding the world of investment so as not to experience losses. Small or large losses of course everyone does not want to experience it but this cannot be avoided because all things must have their own risks as well as investing.

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October 16, 2023, 03:07:06 PM
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Yes, no one can win up to a 100% ratio, but some trading plans and risk plans will work well if they are disciplined.

But can they stay disciplined?
This will be a challenge for every trader because the psychology of trading will affect their discipline in implementing the trading plan.

When psychology cannot be controlled because it is too panicky when the market is not in line with expectations, then it also affects the trading plan.
Having a backup plan is necessary to overcome the initial plan that fails due to changing market trends.
I believe that if you have a well-thought-out strategy, then you will not need backup options. You should have a stop loss for any incomprehensible market movements, and as for some unpredictable force majeure that is impossible to cope with, then nothing will help, and I mean some global factors, such as a shutdown of the exchange or something similar, in such In this case, you need to divide the funds into several exchanges to prevent the loss of all funds.
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October 17, 2023, 12:20:09 PM
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We all know that doing business requires taking risks, and without taking risks one can never succeed in life. Similar to trading and gambling, one can never progress and make a profit without taking risks. Most of the investors take risk and invest for a long period of time it is a huge risk for their money if they don't take such risk they will never be successful, so they take such risk. For example, when the price of Bitcoin was low, no one thought that Bitcoin could reach this position, but investors who took the risk of investing in Bitcoin at that time were the only ones who succeeded. So risk is inevitable in all business and one can never move ahead without taking risks. Risk-taking certainly increases experience and creates business skills, and there is no fear. In order to undertake anything, the person must take risk and in business, if he does not take this risk, he will never be able to sustain the business. Taking risk is the most important thing in all.

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October 17, 2023, 01:39:15 PM
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Yes, no one can win up to a 100% ratio, but some trading plans and risk plans will work well if they are disciplined.

But can they stay disciplined?
This will be a challenge for every trader because the psychology of trading will affect their discipline in implementing the trading plan.

When psychology cannot be controlled because it is too panicky when the market is not in line with expectations, then it also affects the trading plan.
Having a backup plan is necessary to overcome the initial plan that fails due to changing market trends.
I believe that if you have a well-thought-out strategy, then you will not need backup options. You should have a stop loss for any incomprehensible market movements, and as for some unpredictable force majeure that is impossible to cope with, then nothing will help, and I mean some global factors, such as a shutdown of the exchange or something similar, in such In this case, you need to divide the funds into several exchanges to prevent the loss of all funds.
Yeah, having a strategy is always good to begin with. I mean if you are doing something that needs adjusting depending on the situation that's fine, but you need to be ready for it beforehand, those adjustments should have been known, like "I will do X when Y happens", and not really come up with it at the time when something happens. That's an important thing and should be considered a big deal, I know that it may not be all that great for the time being, but it is definitely a great thing when it happens.

I hope that we could end up with a greater return if we could get ready for anything, since we are ready for it, we should be able to overcome any issues and end up with a profit when the time comes, that's the trick.

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October 17, 2023, 02:14:17 PM
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If you can't take risks, how can you get the error of taking risks?
I once read,
It is better to work hard and fail than to succeed without effort.
I always follow this. Because what you get very easily, your happiness and expectations will be very little. And you will be most happy if you get success one day in the work that you take risk which not everyone can do. So I think it's a big success for everyone to take risks in the first place.. Although your business may suffer first.

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October 17, 2023, 05:17:05 PM
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This is not just about trading, this is about anything connecting to human life. Let this words be taken beyond the four walls of trading to every aspect of human life and see the result thereafter. Most important message here is to take a calculated risk.
Risk is always involved in every activity of our life, it is not just limited to trading.  There is a very famous quote about risk " Risk provides you with the best opportunity". This quote shows that the best opportunity is in the risk it gives the chance to get up and do something and wise people know how to take risks. The weaker one always saying that no don't go to this or that thing it is more risky. One thing to be noted that that people who are afraid of taking risks will always be the same their condition will not change, On the other hand, if take a risk and utilize your potential it will give you higher rewards look at your surroundings The millionaires when they tell about their success story they always say that I took the risk and now I am the bigger one. If taking a risk in trading it always creates more risk than others believe me it will give you the best profits that you can't imagine but one thing to remember is that there is a big difference between the risk and stupidity. Don't be a fool to take a step that does not match the risk and you consider it the risk.
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October 17, 2023, 09:29:29 PM
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Basically it's necessary to take a risk and when you don't take a risk it assume that the distance between your success is very far, their is no entrepreneurs that is not a risk taker precisely, when you come to bitcoin investment and other cryptocurrencies investment it assumed that those altcoins people invest on and especially those new projects is a a risk, so probably both trading and investment and gambling what we do there is risk kind of business.

Because nobody is sure making profits in any business we venture into it, one thing that is more important in business or investment is observation and precaution, when you take a look of the kind of investment you want to venture and you make a proper over the investment and you decide to take the risk which is attached to it, I will say that basically that due to your research or inquiring that means their is every tendency that your decision maybe positive.

In summary it's better to take risk than to stay stagnant in any investment, opportunity is an opportunity you can take a risk in opportunity that comes to your way and you become propagated in the risk, so I don't blame whosoever that involved in cryptocurrency investment and mostly taking the risk to invest in new projects or trading with what you are not sure of,according to entrepreneurship, a risk taker is liable be successful or wealthy someone at any given point in time.

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October 17, 2023, 09:51:18 PM
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Yes, no one can win up to a 100% ratio, but some trading plans and risk plans will work well if they are disciplined.

But can they stay disciplined?
This will be a challenge for every trader because the psychology of trading will affect their discipline in implementing the trading plan.

When psychology cannot be controlled because it is too panicky when the market is not in line with expectations, then it also affects the trading plan.
Having a backup plan is necessary to overcome the initial plan that fails due to changing market trends.
I believe that if you have a well-thought-out strategy, then you will not need backup options. You should have a stop loss for any incomprehensible market movements, and as for some unpredictable force majeure that is impossible to cope with, then nothing will help, and I mean some global factors, such as a shutdown of the exchange or something similar, in such In this case, you need to divide the funds into several exchanges to prevent the loss of all funds.
Yeah, having a strategy is always good to begin with. I mean if you are doing something that needs adjusting depending on the situation that's fine, but you need to be ready for it beforehand, those adjustments should have been known, like "I will do X when Y happens", and not really come up with it at the time when something happens. That's an important thing and should be considered a big deal, I know that it may not be all that great for the time being, but it is definitely a great thing when it happens.

I hope that we could end up with a greater return if we could get ready for anything, since we are ready for it, we should be able to overcome any issues and end up with a profit when the time comes, that's the trick.
You would really be needing to adjust and adapt accordingly on the things that we are dealing with.We cant really just that make ourselves that making that tolerance towards those mistakes and doesnt really come up with some plan or solution because if things turns out to be shit and you  do decide on continuing on doing such actions then sooner or later which you would really be finding out yourself on a tough situation on which you would really be that making yourself that get wrecked in terms of financial and this is something that we dont really like. Its true that if you do really have plans on making yourself that have those progress then it would really be just that normal that proper planning and actions to be made should really be that on point. Risks is always there and its always been that part.

The important thing is that you should really know on how to find solutions and alternatives just in case those plans and goals that you have set didnt happen due to some several factors.
Success doesnt really or that easily could be attain.Tons of challenges and errors and mistakes on which you would really be able to encounter. If you are that someone who doesnt have  that long patience
and discpline and wise thinking then you would be failing along the way.

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October 17, 2023, 09:52:45 PM
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Basically it's necessary to take a risk and when you don't take a risk it assume that the distance between your success is very far, their is no entrepreneurs that is not a risk taker precisely, when you come to bitcoin investment and other cryptocurrencies investment it assumed that those altcoins people invest on and especially those new projects is a a risk, so probably both trading and investment and gambling what we do there is risk kind of business.

Because nobody is sure making profits in any business we venture into it, one thing that is more important in business or investment is observation and precaution, when you take a look of the kind of investment you want to venture and you make a proper over the investment and you decide to take the risk which is attached to it, I will say that basically that due to your research or inquiring that means their is every tendency that your decision maybe positive.

In summary it's better to take risk than to stay stagnant in any investment, opportunity is an opportunity you can take a risk in opportunity that comes to your way and you become propagated in the risk, so I don't blame whosoever that involved in cryptocurrency investment and mostly taking the risk to invest in new projects or trading with what you are not sure of,according to entrepreneurship, a risk taker is liable be successful or wealthy someone at any given point in time.

Investments or businesses always have risks, but each investor will have a different risk tolerance. Many people who are successful in business or investment are those who are truly able to manage their risks well, but budget strength and the ability to carry out analysis also play a role in supporting their success.

Take as much risk as you can manage well. Additionally, these investments are not supposed to make investors rich overnight, so risk management is more possible if they avoid day trading. Without risk someone will not be successful, but failing to manage risk will also make them fail.

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This is not just about trading, this is about anything connecting to human life. Let this words be taken beyond the four walls of trading to every aspect of human life and see the result thereafter. Most important message here is to take a calculated risk.
Risk is always involved in every activity of our life, it is not just limited to trading.  There is a very famous quote about risk " Risk provides you with the best opportunity". This quote shows that the best opportunity is in the risk it gives the chance to get up and do something and wise people know how to take risks. The weaker one always saying that no don't go to this or that thing it is more risky. One thing to be noted that that people who are afraid of taking risks will always be the same their condition will not change, On the other hand, if take a risk and utilize your potential it will give you higher rewards look at your surroundings The millionaires when they tell about their success story they always say that I took the risk and now I am the bigger one. If taking a risk in trading it always creates more risk than others believe me it will give you the best profits that you can't imagine but one thing to remember is that there is a big difference between the risk and stupidity. Don't be a fool to take a step that does not match the risk and you consider it the risk.
And we know this is true because if you take the time to look at some of the crises we have faced you will see that there are many people that earn a great deal of wealth during that time, despite the average person thinking there is no way to make any money, and this is because it is during those turbulent times when you can take advantage of some really great opportunities and grow your capital relatively easily, but those opportunities can only be harnessed by those that are willing to take the risk, have some money saved and can see those opportunities for what they really are.

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October 21, 2023, 09:39:38 PM
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However, the worst risk in the world which I am here to advice everyone at this moment is that it is MOST RISKY  not to take risk.
All great men of our time, have taken one risk and the other, break the barricade of fears and venture into the uncertainty as you uncover your potential.
This might be something that is not worth taking a risk on, when we don't understand something, are not prepared, and are also unable to take the risk, so it's better not to do it. because even if this is done, it will only be reckless without careful calculation. If it's in the world of crypto trading, for me an example is investing in a new YPE altcoin project. In my opinion, this is very risky and many people also think this is very risky. And for me, this risk is the one I avoid the most, because we really like gambling.

In the future, there is not only the risk of losing money, but also the mental health that we have worked so hard to build could collapse due to the stress of thinking about fake investments in this hype project if we really cannot understand it. So, it would be better to avoid it, right? Instead of having to force yourself?

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From your topic and what you given, through the discussion, you're saying that it's good to take risk and also avoid taking much of it when we seek in for knowledge, yet your title is talking more on risky adventure to avoid, but we all know that if there must be a successful business enterprise, then we must take risk, in trading, either you like it or not you still must take risk, not because we don't know about it, but because in other to make us approved for the success achievement we aimed at in what we do while trading.

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October 25, 2023, 01:03:12 PM
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From your topic and what you given, through the discussion, you're saying that it's good to take risk and also avoid taking much of it when we seek in for knowledge, yet your title is talking more on risky adventure to avoid, but we all know that if there must be a successful business enterprise, then we must take risk, in trading, either you like it or not you still must take risk, not because we don't know about it, but because in other to make us approved for the success achievement we aimed at in what we do while trading.

Maybe what Op wants to convey is that with every risk we face, we can really learn something. And besides, no one has become successful who has not been a risk-taker. It means that every person who becomes successful has to face risk, and when we say risk, that is not an easy decision.

It's really like that for a dreamer, isn't it? Everything will be tolerated and passed, even if it is difficult, as long as the important thing is that we can face it and overcome it, because for me, the risk becomes our way so that we can succeed in what we want to achieve in the future.

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October 26, 2023, 02:27:23 PM
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Great clickbait title though  Grin

Anyways, the OP’s statement really makes sense. Although we do not advise that we should or shouldn’t risk getting into Bitcoin and altcoins, but we only have to edcuate the masses about the potential risks and learn how to manage them at the same time. In other words, only spend an amount that you can afford to lose.

But here’s the thing when it comes to my experience as I am not intending to encouraging nor discouraging everyone here to take risks.

Not taking risks has two sides. Either you are safe or have missed the opportunity. I have experienced that many times already for both scenarios because we may not know what would happen to the coin or token next in the coming days or so.

Last 2020 during the COVID-19 pandemic, I do have some BTC when it was still around $12k+. However, I have regretted my decision to sell all of my BTC for USDT as I see that the future is uncertain. But I was wrong. During mid-December, BTC skyrocketed and breached the then-ATH of beyond $20k and even up to $30k.

As the market went wild and was waiting for everything to bring it back down below $20k and not buying at the top, but it didn’t. It even went up all the way up to almost $70k+ and that is where I have missed the big opportunity.

Last year, I have decided to start DCA (dollar-cost averaging) on Bitcoin and Ethereum despite the FUD going on in Terra Luna, Celsius, FTX, etc. I held on to that and I am in profit right now as of this time of writing as BTC is recently rallying and now standing at $34k to $35k range.

The thing is that nobody knows what would happen next to the Bitcoin and crypto market in the coming days, weeks or so. Like I said, either we are “safe” or “missed the opportunity” as two scenarios of not risking. Same thing when it comes to taking risks either we make or break.

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October 28, 2023, 06:35:35 PM
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This might be something that is not worth taking a risk on, when we don't understand something, are not prepared, and are also unable to take the risk, so it's better not to do it. because even if this is done, it will only be reckless without careful calculation. If it's in the world of crypto trading, for me an example is investing in a new YPE altcoin project. In my opinion, this is very risky and many people also think this is very risky. And for me, this risk is the one I avoid the most, because we really like gambling.

In the future, there is not only the risk of losing money, but also the mental health that we have worked so hard to build could collapse due to the stress of thinking about fake investments in this hype project if we really cannot understand it. So, it would be better to avoid it, right? Instead of having to force yourself?
This is something worth remembering, our knowledge allows us to more easily navigate turbulent waters and avoid high risks, and this also means that the risk an activity entails can be completely different for two people, so someone that comes to this market after reading everything they could about bitcoin and investing and that have some reasonable goals they want to achieve is taking a very small risk by buying bitcoin, however someone that has not done any of that and believes they can become rich in just a few weeks is taking a massive risk, despite both of those persons performing the same action by investing in bitcoin.

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In short, there's no way on knowing that without even trying and this is why it would really be that always recommended that you should really be that mindful about those potential drawbacks and potential positive results and its true that it would really be that neither be making something or breaking something. If you cant really be able to bare up such risks then better not to engage with it but if you are that someone whose really that willing to take that act for you to be abel to have that kind of chance then it would really be just normal that  you would really be doing such act or decision.

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From your topic and what you given, through the discussion, you're saying that it's good to take risk and also avoid taking much of it when we seek in for knowledge, yet your title is talking more on risky adventure to avoid, but we all know that if there must be a successful business enterprise, then we must take risk, in trading, either you like it or not you still must take risk, not because we don't know about it, but because in other to make us approved for the success achievement we aimed at in what we do while trading.
A matter of choice since not all people would really be that willing or really that prepared on taking up such risks and rather they would really be tending to play safe or going into things
which are really that indeed less risky.  We know that even on living on this world and decisions to be made does involved risks and this is where you should really be that wary
about it. Decisions to be made would really be having that corresponding effect and this is where decision making would really be that crucial.

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I agree with the calculated part, it might be very illogical to do like x100 long future right now with all your capital just to give an example, that is not something you should be looking at currently and I bet %100 that there is someone who is doing that at this moment, probably a lot of people, its equally risky and shouldn't be done to put %100 on x100 shorting neither, basically putting %100 of your money in anything is way too much risk that you shouldn't be taking. I believe that the best way to avoid this would be just focusing on what you could do with calculated risk, assume that everything could go wrong and make sure that you are doing a better job at making sure you are ready for being wrong.

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October 28, 2023, 09:23:10 PM
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Maybe what Op wants to convey is that with every risk we face, we can really learn something. And besides, no one has become successful who has not been a risk-taker. It means that every person who becomes successful has to face risk, and when we say risk, that is not an easy decision.
All work has risks and people who are able to face and overcome every obstacle such as the risks of every job they do will more often find satisfying results, namely becoming successful. Because good results will not come by themselves if we do not face them with enthusiasm and confidence, and every decision that will be made must have been considered for matters related to risk so that it will not be so difficult for everyone to make any decisions that related to his work.

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It's really like that for a dreamer, isn't it? Everything will be tolerated and passed, even if it is difficult, as long as the important thing is that we can face it and overcome it, because for me, the risk becomes our way so that we can succeed in what we want to achieve in the future.
Success is the achievement of the final result that is made as a goal after going through many efforts with obstacles that must be faced by each of us. This means that the risks of any work only need to be understood and known well so that we can have good gaps and paths when completing a job, so that risk does not need to be seen as a difficult burden.

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Boom, the headline cut your attention right? That's perfect.There are lots of risks in business, investment and trading which is not new to anyone. They have become a common life phenomenal.
 However, the worst risk in the world which I am here to advice everyone at this moment is that it is MOST RISKY  not to take risk.
All great men of our time, have taken one risk and the other, break the barricade of fears and venture into the uncertainty as you uncover your potential.
Any business that are in this world as a risk, every drive opportunity always look like fake and impossible to achieve by you, so if you're observing others people they will live and continue making their own. What ever you wanted to do in this life you have to think well and make your decision as much as possible before begin, so that you can know how to avoid risk, can you explain why do we have too many intelligent people that are poor? It's because they analysis too much without action.
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Well to be sincere with you, everyone who had taken risk and had come with a success story have one common line of story to tell us all that they have taken a calculated risk. Every investor, trader and the rest should learn to take a well calculated risk.

The path to success always involves taking risks. Some people endure many problems before obtaining their goal, while others make it easier, but you cannot compare yourself to others who make it easier. Just relax and conduct more research on what you want to invest or even in terms of trade, because you can't just start something you don't know anything about; I think it will finish up at zero.


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October 29, 2023, 04:11:13 AM
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It's a known fact to everyone that risk is directly proportional to profits. The more risk we take the more profits we get.
But the wise one knows which risk is worth to take it and I guess that's where many fail.
We should know whether the risk we take will be fruitful to us and things won't go very bad if we fail.
I guess that's what OP means when he says "calculated risks".

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October 29, 2023, 07:20:57 AM
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From your topic and what you given, through the discussion, you're saying that it's good to take risk and also avoid taking much of it when we seek in for knowledge, yet your title is talking more on risky adventure to avoid, but we all know that if there must be a successful business enterprise, then we must take risk, in trading, either you like it or not you still must take risk, not because we don't know about it, but because in other to make us approved for the success achievement we aimed at in what we do while trading.

Maybe what Op wants to convey is that with every risk we face, we can really learn something. And besides, no one has become successful who has not been a risk-taker. It means that every person who becomes successful has to face risk, and when we say risk, that is not an easy decision.

It's really like that for a dreamer, isn't it? Everything will be tolerated and passed, even if it is difficult, as long as the important thing is that we can face it and overcome it, because for me, the risk becomes our way so that we can succeed in what we want to achieve in the future.

Right. Taking risks isn't about being reckless, it is about being open to opportunities and growth. Sometimes you might fail, but that's okay because you learn from it and come back stronger. But we should always consider our risk tolerance. It may sound contradicting but it is not. It is normal to know when to stop.

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October 29, 2023, 10:30:50 AM
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Maybe what Op wants to convey is that with every risk we face, we can really learn something. And besides, no one has become successful who has not been a risk-taker. It means that every person who becomes successful has to face risk, and when we say risk, that is not an easy decision.

It's really like that for a dreamer, isn't it? Everything will be tolerated and passed, even if it is difficult, as long as the important thing is that we can face it and overcome it, because for me, the risk becomes our way so that we can succeed in what we want to achieve in the future.

Right. Taking risks isn't about being reckless, it is about being open to opportunities and growth. Sometimes you might fail, but that's okay because you learn from it and come back stronger. But we should always consider our risk tolerance. It may sound contradicting but it is not. It is normal to know when to stop.
We will not be able to make decisions rashly, of course the decisions we make rashly, very often we are wrong in deciding something, so it would be better when making a decision we do it with the right calculations and even if the decision we make is not right then we have a backup option that we can use for the decisions we make. Even when taking risks, we have to really think about it very well so that the risks we take can get the results we want.

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October 29, 2023, 01:16:14 PM
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However, the worst risk in the world which I am here to advice everyone at this moment is that it is MOST RISKY  not to take risk.
when you are not ready to take risk, then you are not ready to succeed in life, It's always good to take risks, but you know, when you are about to take risk, always make sure your risks are minimal. You don't have to take risks that after things don't go well, you might end up being affected. I have seen some people having health challenges because of the risks they took, and if things don't go well, the shock was what affected them, and some people have committed suicide just because of the risks they took. I know if you can't take a risk, then it will be difficult for you to make it, but when taking a risk, always know your limit and don't always exceed it.

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October 30, 2023, 11:10:30 AM
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Maybe what Op wants to convey is that with every risk we face, we can really learn something. And besides, no one has become successful who has not been a risk-taker. It means that every person who becomes successful has to face risk, and when we say risk, that is not an easy decision.

It's really like that for a dreamer, isn't it? Everything will be tolerated and passed, even if it is difficult, as long as the important thing is that we can face it and overcome it, because for me, the risk becomes our way so that we can succeed in what we want to achieve in the future.

Right. Taking risks isn't about being reckless, it is about being open to opportunities and growth. Sometimes you might fail, but that's okay because you learn from it and come back stronger. But we should always consider our risk tolerance. It may sound contradicting but it is not. It is normal to know when to stop.
We will not be able to make decisions rashly, of course the decisions we make rashly, very often we are wrong in deciding something, so it would be better when making a decision we do it with the right calculations and even if the decision we make is not right then we have a backup option that we can use for the decisions we make. Even when taking risks, we have to really think about it very well so that the risks we take can get the results we want.

We have that guts to take the risk and always have that alternative options in case things didn't favor our way, I'm sure it's not as easy as
it was, but the chances and possibilities are always present to whatever decision making you take.

It's you and your understanding that value the most. You need to work more with the way you fully understand the business and what are the opportunities.

With those knowledge, you might be able to prevent wrong decision making or lessen the chance being caught behind the market.
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and some people have committed suicide just because of the risks they took. I know if you can't take a risk, then it will be difficult for you to make it, but when taking a risk, always know your limit and don't always exceed it.
Only a fool would commit suicide because of the risks involved in a failed investment.
Actually, to take the path of great risk, one must know about the path and have studied it.
Learn from the experiences of others who have been through it, then you will not experience too much impact and know what needs to be avoided.

The mental pressure will be tremendous, but as long as everything is under good control, everything will be fine.
A trade or investment made as long as it uses money that is not needed for other things, then it will be a support so that you do not stress or anything like that and invest in the right platform or coin that has good development.
It will give you a good return as well.
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From your topic and what you given, through the discussion, you're saying that it's good to take risk and also avoid taking much of it when we seek in for knowledge, yet your title is talking more on risky adventure to avoid, but we all know that if there must be a successful business enterprise, then we must take risk, in trading, either you like it or not you still must take risk, not because we don't know about it, but because in other to make us approved for the success achievement we aimed at in what we do while trading.

The Op, was trying to make nice use of his words and yet he tried to convey his message. Only the title of the thread did not make sense, but when you read down the body I think it is connected. The slight contradiction is when he advised that we should take risk and also not to take to much risk. This idea is landing that we should attempt only calculated risk.

There's no type of investment that is totally risk free. You must be committed and willing to take risks before you could succeed in life.

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I agree with the main idea of your post - risk is key point to life change. But it's also important to clearly understand, when risk has place to be and when it's bad decision to take a risk. I would say, that if you are a young guy, don't have wife, children and any huge responsibilities, it's 100% worth to take a risk - run your own startup, do investing/trading but even in that option it's important to have a sober mind and avoid extremely stupid decisions with a priory bad risk-reward ratio. By saying risk-reward ration I mean ratio between how much you put in something and how much you can gain in case of success.

P.S. Even if you are not a young dude, it's still makes sense to try take a risk, probably with the age it becomes harder, but if you have an understanding why are you doing that, you may find it easier to start.

Good luck to anyone, who is making important decisions in a life, I am sure that you will succeed! 
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Maybe what Op wants to convey is that with every risk we face, we can really learn something. And besides, no one has become successful who has not been a risk-taker. It means that every person who becomes successful has to face risk, and when we say risk, that is not an easy decision.

It's really like that for a dreamer, isn't it? Everything will be tolerated and passed, even if it is difficult, as long as the important thing is that we can face it and overcome it, because for me, the risk becomes our way so that we can succeed in what we want to achieve in the future.

Right. Taking risks isn't about being reckless, it is about being open to opportunities and growth. Sometimes you might fail, but that's okay because you learn from it and come back stronger. But we should always consider our risk tolerance. It may sound contradicting but it is not. It is normal to know when to stop.
We will not be able to make decisions rashly, of course the decisions we make rashly, very often we are wrong in deciding something, so it would be better when making a decision we do it with the right calculations and even if the decision we make is not right then we have a backup option that we can use for the decisions we make. Even when taking risks, we have to really think about it very well so that the risks we take can get the results we want.

We have that guts to take the risk and always have that alternative options in case things didn't favor our way, I'm sure it's not as easy as
it was, but the chances and possibilities are always present to whatever decision making you take.

It's you and your understanding that value the most. You need to work more with the way you fully understand the business and what are the opportunities.

With those knowledge, you might be able to prevent wrong decision making or lessen the chance being caught behind the market.
But we should really that bare into our minds that there are really things which cant be avoided no matter how you do make yourself that wary or really that been aware about into those possible things to be encountered on which means that it is something that inevitable.This is why its really that important that on the time that  you do make some errors or mistake then try out to make yourself that be able to learn from those things so that in next time then you wont really be that finding yourself to be in huge trouble which we know that it isnt something that we do really like to happen in our lives.

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This is why its really that important that on the time that  you do make some errors or mistake then try out to make yourself that be able to learn from those things so that in next time then you wont really be that finding yourself to be in huge trouble which we know that it isnt something that we do really like to happen in our lives.
Risk and capital management is very important. Risk always exists in all areas, aspects in life and we can not exclude risk in our life, from any decision. However if we don't take risk into consideration for our capital management and don't have proper capital allocation for our decisions, we can do something like Using all capital for a single decision. At the end, if that single decision ends with a failure, we will lose most or all capital and with almost empty hands left after that, how we can learn from lessons and restart?

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Each person does have their own takings and decisions on how things should really be that handled knowing on different life situations and conditions on which we know that it would really
Each person has very different and unique taste of risk acceptance, wealth target, greediness and more factors but to continue living well after any decision, we must have plan B or more and have savings to live with it in worst scenario like lose jobs, unemployed, investment failed.

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This is why its really that important that on the time that  you do make some errors or mistake then try out to make yourself that be able to learn from those things so that in next time then you wont really be that finding yourself to be in huge trouble which we know that it isnt something that we do really like to happen in our lives.
Risk and capital management is very important. Risk always exists in all areas, aspects in life and we can not exclude risk in our life, from any decision. However if we don't take risk into consideration for our capital management and don't have proper capital allocation for our decisions, we can do something like Using all capital for a single decision. At the end, if that single decision ends with a failure, we will lose most or all capital and with almost empty hands left after that, how we can learn from lessons and restart?

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Each person does have their own takings and decisions on how things should really be that handled knowing on different life situations and conditions on which we know that it would really
Each person has very different and unique taste of risk acceptance, wealth target, greediness and more factors but to continue living well after any decision, we must have plan B or more and have savings to live with it in worst scenario like lose jobs, unemployed, investment failed.
There needs to be consideration before choosing a decision that carries the risk of losing the capital we have, we must really understand well the decision we take and it would also be better for us to have another plan if the decision we make is not in accordance with what we expected. If we experience failure in managing the capital we have, we have to fix it to be able to get a profit from the capital we have spent.

To achieve the targets that have been set, everyone does it in their own way, but we have to be able to control it so that what we do doesn't give bad results from what we do. Yes, you are right, having savings will certainly make it easier for us to avoid scenarios that we don't want and also we can still fix them after failures that we experience with the savings we have.
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 To know more and gain more experience requires taking some risk that will help you learn. As a trader, just reading without practicing what you have learnt which involve some level of risk does you no good than having an ordinary head knowledge.
 Don't forget that risk is venturing into the uncertainty, so endeavor to keep it a calculated risk before diving into the final decision.

This is not just about trading, this is about anything connecting to human life. Let this words be taken beyond the four walls of trading to every aspect of human life and see the result thereafter. Most important message here is to take a calculated risk



There are a lot of traders who would like want to make a trade but they don't have the guts to take a risk, some of them are not quite confident with their actions its ideal if they tried first the use of paper trading this serve as their trading grounds before committing into the live trade with the capital, with this its a good example because as the trading view the market is in real-time movement so they can test accurately with their strategy. Experience is the best knowledge in trading, even though it a second-hand information still data can be used for a possible occurrence. Profit is profit so dont be silly and getting greedy know your limits sometimes its the root of cause reason to lose your trades.

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I agree with the main idea of your post - risk is key point to life change. But it's also important to clearly understand, when risk has place to be and when it's bad decision to take a risk. I would say, that if you are a young guy, don't have wife, children and any huge responsibilities, it's 100% worth to take a risk - run your own startup, do investing/trading but even in that option it's important to have a sober mind and avoid extremely stupid decisions with a priory bad risk-reward ratio. By saying risk-reward ration I mean ratio between how much you put in something and how much you can gain in case of success.

P.S. Even if you are not a young dude, it's still makes sense to try take a risk, probably with the age it becomes harder, but if you have an understanding why are you doing that, you may find it easier to start.

Good luck to anyone, who is making important decisions in a life, I am sure that you will succeed! 
And this is what books about investing recommend, when you are young and you have a lot of time to recover from your mistakes and you have almost no obligations that is when you should take the greatest financial risks on your life, now this does not mean doing dumb stuff but taking a calculated risk, and investing in bitcoin falls within that umbrella, as a young person could easily invest a few years of savings, multiply them with bitcoin and then start a business or buy their own house with that money and change their life for the better in a short amount of time.

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It's a known fact to everyone that risk is directly proportional to profits. The more risk we take the more profits we get.
But the wise one knows which risk is worth to take it and I guess that's where many fail.
We should know whether the risk we take will be fruitful to us and things won't go very bad if we fail.
I guess that's what OP means when he says "calculated risks".

I agree that trading is too risky as the price is volatile, so much so that many traders and beginner traders tend to lose some money because of their mistakes and wrong trades. But without risk, as you say, you can't also obtain profit; risk is profit. It matters how a trader turns the risk into profit; it requires skill and knowledge.

That's where calculated risks enter. A wise trader knows what amount to risk and what trade worth to risk. I personally quite mastered that thing. At first, I always raised the risk by raising the leverage but didn't do well always. There's always a perfect timing and certain point when to trade with low leverage or high leverage. I myself am a risk-taker, but not always do I know when to back down. Of course, there are trades that I want to do but choose not because of uncertainty but eventually regret not taking the risk.

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This is not just about trading, this is about anything connecting to human life. Let this words be taken beyond the four walls of trading to every aspect of human life and see the result thereafter. Most important message here is to take a calculated risk


Risk has become a friend of every human being, even when we walk outside the house, we have the risk of tripping over a small stone and that is truly a truth, so does trading not have risks? Of course trading is a risky activity and is the risk too big that we can't possibly make a profit? of course not, many traders out there are making profits in trading, they are changing that perception, they are making profits even though people think trading has big risks.

Currently there are quite a lot of tricks to reduce risk when trading, that is by choosing whether you want to be a daily - weekly or monthly trader, but for beginners I really recommend just being a weekly trader, while deepening your skills and emotions in trading.



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November 05, 2023, 04:31:12 PM
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It's a known fact to everyone that risk is directly proportional to profits. The more risk we take the more profits we get.
But the wise one knows which risk is worth to take it and I guess that's where many fail.
We should know whether the risk we take will be fruitful to us and things won't go very bad if we fail.
I guess that's what OP means when he says "calculated risks".

I agree that trading is too risky as the price is volatile, so much so that many traders and beginner traders tend to lose some money because of their mistakes and wrong trades. But without risk, as you say, you can't also obtain profit; risk is profit. It matters how a trader turns the risk into profit; it requires skill and knowledge.

That's where calculated risks enter. A wise trader knows what amount to risk and what trade worth to risk. I personally quite mastered that thing. At first, I always raised the risk by raising the leverage but didn't do well always. There's always a perfect timing and certain point when to trade with low leverage or high leverage. I myself am a risk-taker, but not always do I know when to back down. Of course, there are trades that I want to do but choose not because of uncertainty but eventually regret not taking the risk.

That's what am talking about. These were the trades of uncertainty that lead me to losses.
You're right when you say we should know which trades to take and which ones to avoid.
If we keep taking all the trades we will end up losing a lot of money.
But knowing when to take the trades is a key skill to have to make good profits.

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November 05, 2023, 05:44:47 PM
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I'm sure what you mean is an invitation to step out of your comfort zone. the comfort zone is indeed low risk and provides a steady income for those within it... the nature of the comfort zone is that it doesn't offer limitless opportunities to those inside it. People in their comfort zone often feel safe and taken care of, making them more prone to being complacent and not self reliant. It's just an analogy.

So, is it necessary to leave your comfort zone? The answer is conditional. Remember!! Not everyone has the mental strength to leave their comfort zone. Even to become a tough fighter in the business or investment field, it requires starting from scratch and learning anew. This is undoubtedly risky because if you fail, you'll not only lose your previous comfort zone but also the time and money you spend to do it. So, the world is fair. Anyone willing to take risks must be prepared for the worst scenario.

Some note from me..  opportunities don't come just once, and they'll still be there as long as you live. Those who can embrace change and endure challenges are more likely to become heavyweight fighters in the business world. The chances of success will be much greater..
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November 05, 2023, 07:35:43 PM
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Don't forget that risk is venturing into the uncertainty, so endeavor to keep it a calculated risk before diving into the final decision.
The most important thing you didn't explain is "what does 'calculated risk' mean?" otherwise it is just an abstract idea you are raising here that is not going to help anybody. Here when you say "risk is venturing into the uncertainty" I have to disagree because you don't venture in uncertainty, you venture in certainty that has some small doses of uncertainty which is the risk.

For example in a trade you first analyze the market fundamentals and technicals then you make a move based on the existing market conditions. There will always be a small chance things change after you executed that trade, that is the risk part.

Calculated risk is something that differs from person to person. Because the amount of investment is different, the amount that people invest in different currencies is different for each one, and the people taking the level of risk are different. So what I am trying to tell you is that "calculated risk" is a vague term; it depends on many factors, so everything can't be spoon-fed. The amount of money that you can afford to lose is called calculated risk. Finding this risk before trading gives you a whole idea of your return amount so that you can analyze your money based on market trends and clearly understand when you want to stop.

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