Cross addictions is Just as Bad.

[Oilacris]

Cross addiction is as worst as the main addiction you are trying to quit and it is a terrible idea. But what is cross addiction?

What Are Cross Addictions?
Cross addiction, also known as addiction transfer or addiction interaction disorder, occurs in various ways. First, an individual may simultaneously engage in substance abuse and maladapative behavioral patterns (medically referred to as behavioral or process addictions). Second, a person may replace one addiction with another (i.e., substituting opioids with cannabis). Third, an addictive behavior may precede a chemical addiction or vice versa.
https://www.choosingtherapy.com/cross-addiction/

So a friend told me that a mutual friend tried to replace his gambling addiction with another another one because he has tried all everything else. The new addiction is PS4. He pays for extra on the game and he is getting more and more into it. According to my friend, this mutual friend feels that paying $20 per month its subscription is better than $100- $500 on slots where he ends up losing.

Well I told him that this is basically cross addiction and what that mutual friend is trying to do is like running away from the truth. Not wanting to face the core issue. So he is justify spending $20 and not on slots when both are unhealthy addictions that can have far reaching consequences. He just has to sit and face his addiction head on without looking for a replacement addiction which is just as bad.

Ever heard of cross addiction or suffered from it?
What do you think?

gambling can be very exhausting when we have try as much and we can, not making any winnings. We need to gamble not too much since we still have opportunity to win in the future. Because you are not making winnings does not mean that we are not going to make profits when our own time comes. It is good for us to develop our own strategies so that we can be rest assured of earning some little amount from betting to fix our bills and leave a better lifestyle. Addiction is one thing we need to work on to prevent unnecessary betting which can Iead to loses.

Majority of us would really be that impatient specially if we do really be able to observe or notice out that we arent making some significant winnings on the time that we are playing on which you would really be having that kind of thinking that it might really be still lacking more involvement or time spending with it on which it would really be resulting into further session which on the time that you would really be that making it already as a hobby or past time then it would really be that hard to get out unless if you do have that kind of control towards yourself then you could just easily make out some switch then it would really be just according on a certain individual since not all would really be having on the same level when it comes to tolerance and control into things.

Many former drug addicts (although we must understand that there are no former drug addicts) say that they got rid of drug addiction by replacing drugs with alcohol. But in essence, the person has not lost anything, has not overcome his addictions, and is only aggravating his situation. Gambling addiction and drug and alcohol addiction must be treated by professionals, and this requires a long period of time. A person will not be able to get out of this hole on his own, since it is deeply connected with the psyche. Some improvements that seem like real changes to others are just a game of time until the person again has a breakdown and returns to his old habits.

When it comes to addiction then any forms would really be something that devastating and it would really be just that depending or would really be that according into someones
will and determination about on quitting on such addiction whether on gambling,liqour,drugs or whatsoever types of addiction that you are currently suffering.
Making yourself getting distracted into other things will really be that possibly be able to make yourself that stop and completely break that shackle of addiction.
It wont really be that easy but its not really something that impossible to hapen.

[CarnagexD]

Ever heard of cross addiction or suffered from it?
What do you think?

Hearing of the name for the first time, but I have always met people who practiced it, replacing one habit with another. Cross addiction can be good if the habit the person is using to replace the addiction is something good. For example replacing habit of smoking with eating apples or working out, or the habit of gambling with reading sports journals or news. Cross addiction can be bad when a habit that has the potential to be bad is what is being used as the cross or replacement.

From the context of the word i think it is basically when people exchange one habit for another. If the new habit is positive, it’s a win-win. But if it is something negative, like trading gambling for excessive online shopping, it's a problem.

It should be like  upgrading your habits. If the replacement habit is healthy or productive, it can help break the cycle of gambling addiction harmful, if not, it is just trading one issue for another. I hope those who go through this choose well.

[maydna]

Well, whatever it is as long as we are in addiction, that is generally bad. Because once you are in addiction, you are already ruining and compromising your finances. Maybe we could say that his addiction is even better than being addicted to gambling but still, that was addiction and the results aren't looking right.
Anyways, we can't dictate someone's life but we can give a piece of advice. And this is what I can say, spend our money and time wisely because we are not all the time are healthy and wealthy, better if we use it for meaningful things.

Yes, it's still an addiction. Later, someone will feel disturbed or it could make things worse because by playing PS4 games, we won't pay attention to how long we play. We will be too busy playing even though we have other things to do, but we underestimate them and don't want to do them then.

His addiction is not better than his gambling addiction, but he can reduce his money losses and save his money. We might only be able to advise him not to play games on the PS4 for too long or maybe we can encourage him to do other things that are more useful.

[redsun114]

Based on the definition of Cross Addiction given by you in your thread, what your friend's friend did isn't really cross-addiction in its full sense because when we talk about cross-addiction, we talk about leaving one thing and moving to another thing that almost has the same effects and outcomes as the first one, but what the guy did is completely different and I would never consider that being a bad thing if you are leaving addiction for just a video game.

There is a very big difference between video game addiction and gambling addiction. If I'm a gambling addict, spending thousands of dollars on my gambling activities, not having any self-control at all, and then I decide to start playing a video game and stop gambling completely now I'm not wasting a lot of money on it, I would call that a win and not cross-addiction or anything, and even if it's cross-addiction, if the effects are not too severe, I'm completely okay with it.

[Findingnemo]

Ever heard of cross addiction or suffered from it?
What do you think?

I hadn't heard about this term but I experienced it myself but it doesn't relate to gambling.

Reducing the expenditure from 100 to 20 is good from a financial perspective but still, the addictive nature of the person remains and who knows where it leads so cross-addiction is not a good thing, and the long-term remedy is to treat the addictive nature or if someone wants to treat themselves which is possible at the early stage by challenging their urge and limiting their actions gradually.

I have heard cross addiction but I never got the chance to understand it better. Now that I have clearly understood it, I must say that cross addiction is just as worst as your first gambling addiction. As long as there is an abuse, it will certainly create a negative outcome. If you can’t deal with your main addiction, then how can you manage taking cross addiction. Of course, the outcome will always be negative. That is why learn to admit your main addiction in the first place and treat it by being open minded and even ask help from a medical expert or from your family so you can get rid with it. Cross addiction will not be helpful, it will only worsen your condition as your addiction grows even bigger.

It can either be positive or negative depending on what kind of thing the person gets addicted to overcome their gambling addiction. And for the record even working all day long is some form of addiction and we use the word workaholic for them not addict that is why what we choose matters. But the addictive nature should be treated and probably it can be a condition for a long life so it can be under control with the discipline towards our actions but yes it needs medical expert's help mostly.

[coin-investor]

So a friend told me that a mutual friend tried to replace his gambling addiction with another another one because he has tried all everything else. The new addiction is PS4. He pays for extra on the game and he is getting more and more into it. According to my friend, this mutual friend feels that paying $20 per month its subscription is better than $100- $500 on slots where he ends up losing.

Ever heard of cross addiction or suffered from it?
What do you think?

It's a better deal than losing a lot of money but the question is can he sustain it will he not look for something that will give him a chance to make more especially if your friend already won huge money from games coming from the casino, chances are he will go back to playing in casinos the addiction is still there, those addicted to gambling always want to win money it's not easy to replace it without something that will not give them a chance to make more money.

The thrill may be the same but if the chances to huge big money is different than the others he will revert to playing in casinos or the player will just play both and he will have added more games and his addiction will be much worse.

[mvdheuvel1983]

If you are addicted seek a solution and not a substitution or an alternative addiction. In the short-term a cross addiction Mason to alleviate the mane addiction problem but if you look at it critically it is really solving nothing you are just stuck in one loop of addiction. We should always consider the long-term effect of addictions and not just the short-term relief we get when we get a replacement addiction.

[Adbitco]

I think I have came across someone like that but actually not Into gambling but in other areas of life which is, a smoker trying to quit smoking instead of to stop automatically he then diversed another means to channel his smoking addiction. When I talk of addiction is someone that can stay a day without smoking at least 1 to 2 pack of cigarettes which to me and his family is an addiction and I wouldn't know how you can classify this type of addiction but, what he did was to gradually stops smoking and channels it to drinking, he drinks and keep saying it's better to drink than smoking which both are similar and the worst thing there is that a "Smoker are always drunker, and it leads to womanizing" so in this situation the whole thing is trying to be complicated and it could be very hard to stop both rather than just quit smoking without involving himself with any.

[sana54210]

Well, whatever it is as long as we are in addiction, that is generally bad. Because once you are in addiction, you are already ruining and compromising your finances. Maybe we could say that his addiction is even better than being addicted to gambling but still, that was addiction and the results aren't looking right.
Anyways, we can't dictate someone's life but we can give a piece of advice. And this is what I can say, spend our money and time wisely because we are not all the time are healthy and wealthy, better if we use it for meaningful things.

I agree, nobody should be addicted to anything bad, it doesn't really help with your life and gives you so much bad in return. Usually that is a sign that there is something wrong with you psychologically that you are trying to avoid, that's what addiction usually means, it could even be avoiding the thought of it after it happens as well. This is something normal, everyone has a psychology, and sometimes they do get harmed and we need to be careful about it.

This is why when you are a gambling addict (or any other addict) you get professional help from a doctor and they tell you what to do, there are centers that help you with it, rehab centers are more used to drug addicts to save their life of course and gambling addict may look small time compared to that, but it is still valid and you should be careful. However, there is even more risk with that, because you see drug addicts and think your gambling addiction is no big deal, that should not be the case and you should be careful.

[Coin_trader]

So a friend told me that a mutual friend tried to replace his gambling addiction with another another one because he has tried all everything else. The new addiction is PS4. He pays for extra on the game and he is getting more and more into it. According to my friend, this mutual friend feels that paying $20 per month its subscription is better than $100- $500 on slots where he ends up losing.

Well I told him that this is basically cross addiction and what that mutual friend is trying to do is like running away from the truth. Not wanting to face the core issue. So he is justify spending $20 and not on slots when both are unhealthy addictions that can have far reaching consequences. He just has to sit and face his addiction head on without looking for a replacement addiction which is just as bad.

Honest opinion, it’s really better to pay 20$ instead of 100$ and above just to get same satisfaction which is being entertained. I do the same too whenever I’m already burn out on gambling which doesn’t provide me an entertainment which it’s original purpose.

This not the same with illegal drugs substance cross addiction because we are only talking about entertainment here and not illegal things that can harm your body in the long run. It’s simply changing a different source of entertainment to a cheap one since both gaming and gambling has same purpose which is to provide entertainment. An addiction to games is much more acceptable than to gambling since you don’t spend a lot of money while you can sell all your games once you are done playing, only time is being consumed.

[Negotiation]

Gambling addiction can be easily controlled if a person wants to but cross addiction always has bad effects. Long term effects are more difficult to alleviate due to which cross gambling creates a negative reaction among us gambling affects every aspect of a person's daily activities and gradually begins to disintegrate. Deviation from economic social and other matters a gambling addict prioritizes gambling over personal family or social responsibilities there is an impossible and uncontrollable demand for this game. Hence without spending much money becoming addicted to the game helps to change the negative thoughts and create a positive thinking mindset.

[stomachgrowls]

So a friend told me that a mutual friend tried to replace his gambling addiction with another another one because he has tried all everything else. The new addiction is PS4. He pays for extra on the game and he is getting more and more into it. According to my friend, this mutual friend feels that paying $20 per month its subscription is better than $100- $500 on slots where he ends up losing.

Well I told him that this is basically cross addiction and what that mutual friend is trying to do is like running away from the truth. Not wanting to face the core issue. So he is justify spending $20 and not on slots when both are unhealthy addictions that can have far reaching consequences. He just has to sit and face his addiction head on without looking for a replacement addiction which is just as bad.

Honest opinion, it’s really better to pay 20$ instead of 100$ and above just to get same satisfaction which is being entertained. I do the same too whenever I’m already burn out on gambling which doesn’t provide me an entertainment which it’s original purpose.

This not the same with illegal drugs substance cross addiction because we are only talking about entertainment here and not illegal things that can harm your body in the long run. It’s simply changing a different source of entertainment to a cheap one since both gaming and gambling has same purpose which is to provide entertainment. An addiction to games is much more acceptable than to gambling since you don’t spend a lot of money while you can sell all your games once you are done playing, only time is being consumed.

Having those basic mathematics then you do know on which one you would really be that worth on choosing and also making yourself that addicted with video games is really not that something that too risky
compared when we do talk about gambling addiction. Yes, you could really be spending up too much time and sacrificing socialization but this wont really be that putting up risks on finances knowing that you do
only spend up 20 bucks for a month and this is something that much better rather than on making yourself that spending hundreds or thousands in a month. Just like on what others been saying that if you dont like on having no spending of money then involving with some sports or physical things is really that much better rather than making yourself sticking on something that comes with a cost.

Any forms of addiction on whatever it would be then it would be always considered to be bad. Everything should really be balance and everything should really be in moderation.
results or outcomes would really be that totally be depending on someones actions since not all would really be that able to do those basic things.
It do really just matter with decisions.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Just like he didn't seem to have any difficulties in switching up, he ain't gonna think twice when the time is right to go back to the root...
It makes alot of sense since he's able to do so, but at the same time, it's not a 100% prove course that he's definitely gonna be freed from slot gamings that easily...
I believe it's the same hypnotical process with smokers too.. when they're asked to focus on nicotine gum and nasal spray..

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[rahmad2nd]

Ever heard of cross addiction or suffered from it?
What do you think?

I want to ask, is this a rare phenomenon. for me, not at all. I'm pretty sure, there are people who experience cross-addiction problems in this part of the world. Whether it's a cross addiction or a double addiction, the points are both addictions. I have old friends, some of whom are full-blown addicts. whether it's alcohol, illegal substances and gambling addicts. there are many people at the same time, having excessive habits in their lives. as I said above, they not only become gambling addicts but they also become part of other addicts, for example drugs. and I think that in the midst of modern life like today, it is not a strange or unfamiliar problem to sound to our ears.

Meanwhile, as you said in this thread, there are various addicts who try to transfer their addiction to other activities which results in them becoming addicted to other things too. I really understand cases like this, someone has the intention to divert his attention to his addiction and tries playing media which he thinks might be able to cure him of his addiction to something, for example gambling. However, and what people don't think they know, there is actually a better process as a diversion. In fact, in each case it will be different for each sufferer of this cross-addiction.
Believe it or not, someone has the potential to return to their old habits. The point is, there is only one problem, namely addiction.  whatever the addiction, an addict is still an addict. What someone needs to do is consult an expert. Don't forget, ask for family support. In this way, it is possible for someone to recover from their addiction. but most importantly, we ourselves have a full role and must be self-aware of what we do. and we, have complete control and power over ourselves. It's just that most people are unable to fight their will or high desires.

[OgNasty]

Cross addictions can be bad, but they can also be good. You just need to find the negative things in your life and remove them while replacing them with positive things. People do this all the time in order to better themselves while ridding themselves of nasty habits. I think it can be a very healthy way to do things.

[uchegod-21]

Ever heard of cross addiction or suffered from it?
What do you think?

Hearing of the name for the first time, but I have always met people who practiced it, replacing one habit with another. Cross addiction can be good if the habit the person is using to replace the addiction is something good. For example replacing habit of smoking with eating apples or working out, or the habit of gambling with reading sports journals or news. Cross addiction can be bad when a habit that has the potential to be bad is what is being used as the cross or replacement.

From the context of the word i think it is basically when people exchange one habit for another. If the new habit is positive, it’s a win-win. But if it is something negative, like trading gambling for excessive online shopping, it's a problem.

It should be like  upgrading your habits. If the replacement habit is healthy or productive, it can help break the cycle of gambling addiction harmful, if not, it is just trading one issue for another. I hope those who go through this choose well.

Hearing about cross addiction for the first time and what came to my mind is "Cross addiction can be a healing process ". To quit an addiction,  first the addict has to realize he is actually addicted to a particular habit and realise too the possible consequences of such  a habit.
Now, for an addict to realise a particular habit is no longer worth it and is willing to QUIT but adopt a new habit,  it shows that it is actually possible for that particular addict to quit his addictions completely. 
It will even make a whole lot of sense if his new addiction is a good one or one with lesser consequences just as in the case of the 'friend ' OP stated. All he will be needing at that point is professional help.

We will only condemn cross addiction if the addict is addicted to two or more habits at a time. Or he upgrades from a fair habit to another worst than the former. If this is the case, then it is worst than addiction itself.

[macson]

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So a friend told me that a mutual friend tried to replace his gambling addiction with another another one because he has tried all everything else. The new addiction is PS4. He pays for extra on the game and he is getting more and more into it. According to my friend, this mutual friend feels that paying $20 per month its subscription is better than $100- $500 on slots where he ends up losing.

Well I told him that this is basically cross addiction and what that mutual friend is trying to do is like running away from the truth. Not wanting to face the core issue. So he is justify spending $20 and not on slots when both are unhealthy addictions that can have far reaching consequences. He just has to sit and face his addiction head on without looking for a replacement addiction which is just as bad.

Ever heard of cross addiction or suffered from it?
What do you think?

In fact, everyone has an addiction and if the addiction has really disrupted your lifestyle then you have to try to stop it, and from the story that the OP told, i think cross-addiction is just as bad as gambling addiction, even though the money spent by the victim is not as much as When he is addicted to gambling, try to give advice to your friends or relatives so that they avoid any addiction, focus only on positive things such as reading, volunteering or exercising to divert the addiction they are experiencing.

[goinmerry]

What matters is, that these people are shifting their interest to something less risky as long as on the way, they manage not to make things worse.

For example, from addiction to gambling, the interest shifted to addiction to gadgets. Even though they spend lots of money purchasing several gadgets compared to what they spend during their gambling addiction, the benefits and advantages are still used by these people since they actually don't lose their money without anything good in return unlike in gambling where they literally lose money, and in return, they will end up regrettable on what they did.

Cross-addiction will just be bad if in some case, the worst just become worse in the long run.

[Slow death]

What matters is, that these people are shifting their interest to something less risky as long as on the way, they manage not to make things worse.

For example, from addiction to gambling, the interest shifted to addiction to gadgets. Even though they spend lots of money purchasing several gadgets compared to what they spend during their gambling addiction, the benefits and advantages are still used by these people since they actually don't lose their money without anything good in return unlike in gambling where they literally lose money, and in return, they will end up regrettable on what they did.

Cross-addiction will just be bad if in some case, the worst just become worse in the long run.

There are cases where people become addicted to computer or PS4 games, in these cases people do not spend money on these games, but because these people spend many hours playing on the computer, they start to arrive at work tired and very sleepy, and this starts to very negatively affect their performance at work to the point where the situation reaches the level of the person not going to work and lying that they are sick, while missing work because they were playing all day. I read cases like these, and it was something recent. The person lost their job, lost their wife and children because they became addicted to PS4 games. I no longer remember the name of the game the guy played

But according to him, it was an online game that allowed other people to play, the guy even got married within the game, meaning the guy was also indirectly cheating on his wife. and even with many warnings that the wife kept giving him, the guy didn't want to listen and as a result, after losing his job, he was no longer able to pay the household bills and the wife left with the children. months later they divorced and the wife stayed with another man, meaning he had to watch his children being raised by someone else, all because of the addiction. anything can make us addicted if we overdo it

[wheelz1200]

Cross addiction is as worst as the main addiction you are trying to quit and it is a terrible idea. But what is cross addiction?

What Are Cross Addictions?
Cross addiction, also known as addiction transfer or addiction interaction disorder, occurs in various ways. First, an individual may simultaneously engage in substance abuse and maladapative behavioral patterns (medically referred to as behavioral or process addictions). Second, a person may replace one addiction with another (i.e., substituting opioids with cannabis). Third, an addictive behavior may precede a chemical addiction or vice versa.
https://www.choosingtherapy.com/cross-addiction/

So a friend told me that a mutual friend tried to replace his gambling addiction with another another one because he has tried all everything else. The new addiction is PS4. He pays for extra on the game and he is getting more and more into it. According to my friend, this mutual friend feels that paying $20 per month its subscription is better than $100- $500 on slots where he ends up losing.

Well I told him that this is basically cross addiction and what that mutual friend is trying to do is like running away from the truth. Not wanting to face the core issue. So he is justify spending $20 and not on slots when both are unhealthy addictions that can have far reaching consequences. He just has to sit and face his addiction head on without looking for a replacement addiction which is just as bad.

Ever heard of cross addiction or suffered from it?
What do you think?

Don't know if this is really a gambling topic but in terms of gambling addiction and replacing it with another I don't see that as a bad thing as long as the new addiction is less damaging to that individuals lives.  People can get addicted to healthy things like running, working out, reading, etc.  Then there is the opposite like opiods, etc which can literally kill you.  So I think it's all relative to the cross addiction you are talking about.