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November 17, 2023, 01:42:06 PM
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Basically gambling is an activity that is prohibited and if someone does it and is caught they will most likely be punished or sanctioned, but why is gambling still sought after by many people, because they see that in gambling they will get pleasure if they do it. lucky or winning. and of course they will also have fun there.
If there is a country that legalizes gambling, I think people will definitely be free and play as they please without thinking about punishment, but if that country prohibits casinos then it is very likely that people will play in secret, for fear of being discovered. police.

        -   That is exactly what happens when a government legalizes casino gambling, whether online or physical gambling. Because it is legal in their country, most gamblers will consider it a source of income.

And even if it is illegal in a country, a gambler will be driven to find a way to gamble, even if it means breaking the law. But, for another reason, it cannot be regarded a long-term source of income because it is entirely dependent on luck.

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November 17, 2023, 02:35:24 PM
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Gambling isn't an illicit activity in most countries but it is a highly regulated activity. Gambling really shouldn't be included along with drug trafficking and embezzlement. The Wikipedia editor who wrote that has an outdated concept of gambling. Most people aren't going to be making enough from unregulated gambling that they need to go to great lengths to conceal it from the government.
Although gambling is not compared to drug or smuggling, gambling is completely forbidden in Muslim-majority countries. Gambling is so prohibited in Muslim-majority countries that if a person gambles in defiance of the ban and is caught gambling, he is subject to severe punishment. I would say that gambling is as dangerous as addiction when a person becomes too addicted to gambling. One should not be addicted to anything. Gambling is not so bad if gambling can be done with self-control but if gambling controls us and we become too addicted to gambling then gambling will never bring us anything good. There are many people who have gotten into a lot of debt by gambling and there are many people who have gotten away with gambling. Not only are there negative aspects of gambling, but those who have gambled in a controlled manner and who have had enough experience with gambling have also made substantial gains. Everything has good and bad side but we have to find those good and bad side and then we have to do that good thing.
You're right. Gambling can become an addiction, locking people in debt and regret. It's like an extremely dangerous game with financial and mental security at stake. This explains Muslim-majority countries' harsh approach. Their strategy tries to safeguard society from gambling addiction. On the other hand, supervised gambling is quite an idea. This requires ability, strategy, and self-control, not just luck. Gamblers have survived and prospered. This implies that disciplined gambling can be fun and profitable. Balancing excitement with responsibility is crucial to this delicate topic

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November 18, 2023, 01:07:21 AM
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Basically gambling is an activity that is prohibited and if someone does it and is caught they will most likely be punished or sanctioned, but why is gambling still sought after by many people, because they see that in gambling they will get pleasure if they do it. lucky or winning. and of course they will also have fun there.
If there is a country that legalizes gambling, I think people will definitely be free and play as they please without thinking about punishment, but if that country prohibits casinos then it is very likely that people will play in secret, for fear of being discovered. police.

        -   That is exactly what happens when a government legalizes casino gambling, whether online or physical gambling. Because it is legal in their country, most gamblers will consider it a source of income.

And even if it is illegal in a country, a gambler will be driven to find a way to gamble, even if it means breaking the law. But, for another reason, it cannot be regarded a long-term source of income because it is entirely dependent on luck.


That's right, if the government legalizes gambling in their country, then people will play as they please and some even think that gambling can make money so they will play continuously and irregularly without being equipped with strong self-control.

Yes, it could be that if the government prohibits gambling in their country, then people who like to gamble will try their best to be able to gamble even though they do it in secret.

Agree with your opinion, gambling is just luck that we don't know when we will get it and we shouldn't have too high hopes that gambling is a source of income, even though whatever the reason is, it's still wrong.

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November 18, 2023, 03:35:46 AM
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You're right. Gambling can become an addiction, locking people in debt and regret. It's like an extremely dangerous game with financial and mental security at stake. This explains Muslim-majority countries' harsh approach. Their strategy tries to safeguard society from gambling addiction. On the other hand, supervised gambling is quite an idea. This requires ability, strategy, and self-control, not just luck. Gamblers have survived and prospered. This implies that disciplined gambling can be fun and profitable. Balancing excitement with responsibility is crucial to this delicate topic
Experiencing an addiction to gambling will certainly be very bad because we will use more of the income we have to gamble so that we cannot meet the needs we need. Everyone who gambles must of course be able to control themselves if they don't want the income they have to be used more for the gambling activities they do and if they are not able to do this of course they will lose more, so it will be better they manage the money they use for gambling and if the money they set has run out due to losses it would be better for them to look for fun in other things which would certainly be better.

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November 18, 2023, 03:56:08 AM
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 Hi guys, coming through with a rather odd question this morning.

So, i was looking up on Wikipedia the meaning of Money Laundering , and below is a quote of how the site defined the term "Money Laundering"

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Money laundering is the process of illegally concealing the origin of money, obtained from illicit activities such as drug trafficking, corruption, embezzlement or gambling, by converting it into a legitimate source. It is a crime in many jurisdictions with varying definitions. It is usually a key operation of organized crime.

So, after i saw that Gambling was mentioned or listed among the listed illicit activities through which money can or could be laundered, I can't help but wonder if gambling is actually an illicit activity.

Wikipedia did not mention gambling being an illicit activity in their definition of gambling here, why then did they mention gambling as one of illicit activity through which money laundering can be carried out?

Please check this out and share your thoughts.
In my opinion, gambling is an illegal activity where people always fall for this gambling. But people who gamble don't think anything like that, but they earn money from such casinos with the aim of making money. Although gambling has been legalized in many countries, it is forbidden by virtually any religion, the practice being considered the worst in every religion. That's why I think this kind of gambling is illegal even though it is legal in many countries people take gambling in general and representative they place bets here. There are various casino platforms where illegal money laundering is considered a crime under the law. Moreover, many people do not like to play this type of gambling, but I have seen many gamblers who cannot live without gambling. There are many businessmen who do illegal activities and money laundering through this gambling, which is basically the biggest crime I claim. When Wikipedia asks something about gambling, it comments that they know that gambling is an illegal activity, so they give answers like this.

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November 18, 2023, 04:17:48 AM
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You're right. Gambling can become an addiction, locking people in debt and regret. It's like an extremely dangerous game with financial and mental security at stake. This explains Muslim-majority countries' harsh approach. Their strategy tries to safeguard society from gambling addiction. On the other hand, supervised gambling is quite an idea. This requires ability, strategy, and self-control, not just luck. Gamblers have survived and prospered. This implies that disciplined gambling can be fun and profitable. Balancing excitement with responsibility is crucial to this delicate topic
Experiencing an addiction to gambling will certainly be very bad because we will use more of the income we have to gamble so that we cannot meet the needs we need. Everyone who gambles must of course be able to control themselves if they don't want the income they have to be used more for the gambling activities they do and if they are not able to do this of course they will lose more, so it will be better they manage the money they use for gambling and if the money they set has run out due to losses it would be better for them to look for fun in other things which would certainly be better.

I don't know how you guys ended up discussing about gambling addiction when the thread was all about gambling being used for money laundering and tagged as an elicit activity lol.

IMO, though gambling are regulated and prohibited by law today as long as it is compliance with all the licenses and policies to operate, so it is not an elicit activity anymore, but it can also be used to conceal money that's coming from illegal activities such as selling weapons, drugs, and things like these. Authorities may look for an evidence in a financial angle, but as long as the person in interest is constantly active in gambling, it'll put extra layer of work for the authorities looking at this possible angle as gambling may let an individual earn or win unlimited range of money. That's how these people conceal their drug money.
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November 18, 2023, 08:44:22 AM
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You're right. Gambling can become an addiction, locking people in debt and regret. It's like an extremely dangerous game with financial and mental security at stake. This explains Muslim-majority countries' harsh approach. Their strategy tries to safeguard society from gambling addiction. On the other hand, supervised gambling is quite an idea. This requires ability, strategy, and self-control, not just luck. Gamblers have survived and prospered. This implies that disciplined gambling can be fun and profitable. Balancing excitement with responsibility is crucial to this delicate topic
Experiencing an addiction to gambling will certainly be very bad because we will use more of the income we have to gamble so that we cannot meet the needs we need. Everyone who gambles must of course be able to control themselves if they don't want the income they have to be used more for the gambling activities they do and if they are not able to do this of course they will lose more, so it will be better they manage the money they use for gambling and if the money they set has run out due to losses it would be better for them to look for fun in other things which would certainly be better.
For this reason, people who gamble must know what they need to prepare and have so that they do not experience problems such as gambling addiction. Gambling addiction comes to those who gamble too often and cannot control themselves so they cannot use gambling as entertainment and instead use it as a place to make money. Gambling is actually just a tool to get pleasure using money, so people who gamble using their money must realize that they must be able to stay within their limits so as not to experience gambling addiction. Money management is also very necessary because they don't need to spend all their money to gamble, especially if they have a lot of expenses that need to be met. Someone who does not understand how to allocate their money to meet their daily needs and gamble will only experience gambling problems and will not be able to meet their daily needs because their money is used for gambling.

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November 18, 2023, 10:54:51 AM
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Gambling isn't an illicit activity in most countries but it is a highly regulated activity. Gambling really shouldn't be included along with drug trafficking and embezzlement. The Wikipedia editor who wrote that has an outdated concept of gambling. Most people aren't going to be making enough from unregulated gambling that they need to go to great lengths to conceal it from the government.
Although gambling is not compared to drug or smuggling, gambling is completely forbidden in Muslim-majority countries. Gambling is so prohibited in Muslim-majority countries that if a person gambles in defiance of the ban and is caught gambling, he is subject to severe punishment. I would say that gambling is as dangerous as addiction when a person becomes too addicted to gambling. One should not be addicted to anything. Gambling is not so bad if gambling can be done with self-control but if gambling controls us and we become too addicted to gambling then gambling will never bring us anything good. There are many people who have gotten into a lot of debt by gambling and there are many people who have gotten away with gambling. Not only are there negative aspects of gambling, but those who have gambled in a controlled manner and who have had enough experience with gambling have also made substantial gains. Everything has good and bad side but we have to find those good and bad side and then we have to do that good thing.
You're right. Gambling can become an addiction, locking people in debt and regret. It's like an extremely dangerous game with financial and mental security at stake. This explains Muslim-majority countries' harsh approach. Their strategy tries to safeguard society from gambling addiction. On the other hand, supervised gambling is quite an idea. This requires ability, strategy, and self-control, not just luck. Gamblers have survived and prospered. This implies that disciplined gambling can be fun and profitable. Balancing excitement with responsibility is crucial to this delicate topic

Of course, if someone gambles, there is the potential to become addicted to the same as drugs, which both have a very fatal dangerous impact and certainly harm themselves and can even harm others. And gambling also has a large percentage of bad in the view of society, therefore gambling is a bad thing in society, but there are also some countries that legalize gambling and some are the opposite. Even if the country is legalized, there is a possibility that they gamble in secret. And that is clear.
Most of the gamblers I know have lost responsibility for other things. Because they have been lulled by gambling which makes them forget about many things that are clearly detrimental to themselves. So in my opinion, there is a strong reason that gambling is a prohibited activity because it can make a person change drastically if they are not good at controlling themselves.

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November 18, 2023, 11:25:31 AM
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Basically gambling is an activity that is prohibited and if someone does it and is caught they will most likely be punished or sanctioned, but why is gambling still sought after by many people, because they see that in gambling they will get pleasure if they do it. lucky or winning. and of course they will also have fun there.
If there is a country that legalizes gambling, I think people will definitely be free and play as they please without thinking about punishment, but if that country prohibits casinos then it is very likely that people will play in secret, for fear of being discovered. police.

        -   That is exactly what happens when a government legalizes casino gambling, whether online or physical gambling. Because it is legal in their country, most gamblers will consider it a source of income.

And even if it is illegal in a country, a gambler will be driven to find a way to gamble, even if it means breaking the law. But, for another reason, it cannot be regarded a long-term source of income because it is entirely dependent on luck.

Is there really a country where gambling is banned? I will like to know that because the your tone shows you might know some countries where gambling is against the law.

In my country, gambling is a big business that receive no government restrictions.  The gambling companies are registered and operate under the laws stipulated an agency of the government. Sports betting shop are littered all over the streets and are always full every weekend.

The only people not allowed to visit these shops are those below 18 years of age

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November 20, 2023, 07:14:10 PM
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Is there really a country where gambling is banned? I will like to know that because the your tone shows you might know some countries where gambling is against the law.

In my country, gambling is a big business that receive no government restrictions.  The gambling companies are registered and operate under the laws stipulated an agency of the government. Sports betting shop are littered all over the streets and are always full every weekend.

The only people not allowed to visit these shops are those below 18 years of age
While I have no data I suppose that at least on the middle east gambling should be forbidden in a great deal of those countries, also even in countries where gambling has been legalized we must not forget that it is also a heavily regulated activity, so if a casino does not have a casino license in the country to operate then it is clear the owners of that casino are violating the law and they could be subject to all kind of penalties and fines.

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November 20, 2023, 08:21:45 PM
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Is there really a country where gambling is banned? I will like to know that because the your tone shows you might know some countries where gambling is against the law.

In my country, gambling is a big business that receive no government restrictions.  The gambling companies are registered and operate under the laws stipulated an agency of the government. Sports betting shop are littered all over the streets and are always full every weekend.

The only people not allowed to visit these shops are those below 18 years of age

Ah, sorry about earlier. It seems, you lack references if there are several countries that prohibit gambling. If I'm not mistaken, we've discussed it in several threads on gambling discussion boards. I don't need to look far for a reference to say which countries prohibit gambling, because in my country gambling is now prohibited. era changed era, in the past gambling was still allowed, especially lotteries which were managed by the state. and currently, gambling is prohibited by the laws and regulations of our country.

If we talk about Asia, as far as I know there are some who still prohibit it. although recently, many ASEAN countries have legalized it. Well, for the Middle East it's different again. We don't need to look for references to strengthen our arguments, but it is clear that legally and the rules that apply there clearly prohibit it. especially, for very religious middle eastern countries. This prohibition did not just happen, of course it has gone through a long process, especially for my country.

For some Middle Eastern countries, it seems like some have never actually legalized gambling. It's only natural, because they have their own rules. So, now you probably know that there are countries where gambling is not legal. and this is the opposite of what is in your country. not only children under the age of +18, but applies to all people in the country. even though in this era, everyone can access casinos via smartphone and the internet. The point is, the state cannot completely control it even if they block access.  After all, there are various ways, even some online fiat casinos provide tips for opening locked services and that is the fact.

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November 20, 2023, 08:38:08 PM
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Is there really a country where gambling is banned? I will like to know that because the your tone shows you might know some countries where gambling is against the law.

In my country, gambling is a big business that receive no government restrictions.  The gambling companies are registered and operate under the laws stipulated an agency of the government. Sports betting shop are littered all over the streets and are always full every weekend.

The only people not allowed to visit these shops are those below 18 years of age
While I have no data I suppose that at least on the middle east gambling should be forbidden in a great deal of those countries, also even in countries where gambling has been legalized we must not forget that it is also a heavily regulated activity, so if a casino does not have a casino license in the country to operate then it is clear the owners of that casino are violating the law and they could be subject to all kind of penalties and fines.

Most Islamic Country ban gambling.  I believe it is against their religion.  If you want some data of countries that Ban gambling activities, you can refer to this article[1].  The article list the country where gambling is illegal.  It also lists the law that forbids gambling in their country.

Although there are countries that see gambling as a natural activity and even get profit from it, some countries put more value in their religious belief and carry the teaching into their law.




[1]  https://playtoday.co/blog/guides/countries-where-gambling-is-illegal/

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 Hi guys, coming through with a rather odd question this morning.

So, i was looking up on Wikipedia the meaning of Money Laundering , and below is a quote of how the site defined the term "Money Laundering"

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Money laundering is the process of illegally concealing the origin of money, obtained from illicit activities such as drug trafficking, corruption, embezzlement or gambling, by converting it into a legitimate source. It is a crime in many jurisdictions with varying definitions. It is usually a key operation of organized crime.

So, after i saw that Gambling was mentioned or listed among the listed illicit activities through which money can or could be laundered, I can't help but wonder if gambling is actually an illicit activity.

Wikipedia did not mention gambling being an illicit activity in their definition of gambling here, why then did they mention gambling as one of illicit activity through which money laundering can be carried out?

Please check this out and share your thoughts.

Poorly regulated gambling institutions, like any poorly regulated companies, can be abused by criminals to do things like money laundering. It's historically well known that casinos were abused for this purpose, just like any cash heavy business, but most countries with effective regulators have figured out ways to prevent these things. Such as requiring membership to play in the casino, which requires displaying a form of ID, which can then be cross referenced by government agencies to pick out any suspicious patterns. As long as this sort of enforcement is taking place then it becomes much harder to wash money through them. However one of the biggest casinos in Australia had a big case on this topic only a few years ago, so it can still take place.

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November 21, 2023, 12:53:32 AM
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It depends on where you live. If it is banned by the government then it can be considered as illicit activity. If not then it's ok. As we all know many arab countries ban gambling and gambling related activity. Not that it is addicted but it is forbidden by their religion. It's against their believe. Even wuth these bans people are still gambling. I think, if gambling can be taken under proper rules and regulations then it's fine. Because as long as it's properly monitored no illigal activity might happen. As an example, money laundeing. The sad thing is where I live it isn't as regulated as it should be. We do have strict rules. But nobody seems to follow it.
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November 21, 2023, 02:31:36 AM
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It depends on where you live. If it is banned by the government then it can be considered as illicit activity. If not then it's ok. As we all know many arab countries ban gambling and gambling related activity. Not that it is addicted but it is forbidden by their religion. It's against their believe. Even wuth these bans people are still gambling. I think, if gambling can be taken under proper rules and regulations then it's fine. Because as long as it's properly monitored no illigal activity might happen. As an example, money laundeing. The sad thing is where I live it isn't as regulated as it should be. We do have strict rules. But nobody seems to follow it.
Just as I thought and said before, the ban on gambling in country depends on where we live because not all countries give permission for gambling, but regarding religion, I sure that almost all religions definitely prohibit their followers from carrying out this activity.
Not only Arabs with the Islamic religion but also all existing religions, for example in the country where I live here the majority are Muslims and the state law also prohibits gambling but there are still many gamblers and also cases of gambling addiction.
As the proverb says, prohibitions and regulations are made to be broken and that is real life where not all prohibitions and regulations can be obeyed.
Even in the country I live in even though it is legally prohibited, there are still lots of fiat-based online gambling sites, but they always have way to escape the legal trap.
But in my opinion it doesn't matter as long as all the gambling activities we do never disturb or harm other people, then these activities are each person right with risks and consequences that we have to accept ourselves.

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November 21, 2023, 02:29:40 PM
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Things in the countries are very diverse, on a personal level I think that gambling will never be illegal, it will never be like that unless the casino is fraudulent, it is something that I notice, but for example in my country it has been more than 20 years since He was president and made casinos illegal because he said that there were many addicts and that the casino produced addiction, something that makes me feel childish ban on the part of that person who has already died, but what he did was set the country back for more than 40 years. advance, but that was something very disastrous what he showed in his government, I would think that a person like that can only be sorry for the bad thing that was in his mind, for me they govern us because they say or prohibit casinos and games of chance are plated to the antiuga and they really don't want their people to have fun, it seems to me a very selfish act and that they can no longer get ahead with what they have, then this is something quite ridiculous that a country prohibits gambling juices, casinos everything .

What I think is, those who think that the casino produces addicts should continue with their thinking, that no one is going to mess with them, and that they should continue thinking like that, but the majority of people do not see the casino as that, but as something that it is normal, that it is fun and that each person has the responsibility of whether or not to fall into addiction, there is a reason the casino is for people who are of legal age and consider themselves adults, it is not necessary to have one police officer on top of the other so that they can tell you what is good and what is bad, how you should bet and how you should not bet, that is something that has to be understood, furthermore, a country succeeds without prohibitions, without the need to be aware that its people is going to get involved or not going to get involved in a certain place, or that he is not in a mess, because here what matters is that things are always being done as they are without any type of problem, each person is free to do their things, and it is responsible, you must be responsible.
Gambling can cause someone to become addicted to gambling and as we know, some countries allow gambling and some that prohibit it. Those who live in countries that allow gambling can of course, gamble freely and perhaps this is what makes many gamblers eventually become addicted to gambling. Meanwhile, for those who live in countries where gambling is prohibited, some people try to gamble but they gamble in illegal casinos where they can all be arrested if they are caught gambling. The government can indeed take advantage of the casinos in their country, but the government must also think about the impact of gambling on its people. The government needs to provide advice so that people can use gambling as a type of entertainment and not use it as a way to make money.

If people can be responsible while they are gambling, they don't need to worry about gambling addiction problems because they can definitely take care of themselves well and will not be tempted by the offers they see while they are gambling. But the problem is that not everyone can control themselves while gambling and they may lose control of themselves when they lose. But when they win, they can also lose control because their greed will get bigger and tell them to continue gambling. This is what many people who frequently gamble must understand because most of them come to casinos more often to gamble. Even though they argue that they gamble just for fun, but there is still a risk of experiencing a gambling addiction.


Yes, you can see something that is not correct, the government or the governments of the countries that have prohibited casinos and games of chance are not police, they are simply some regulators of this that I do not understand yet, because this of the casino can bring a lot of good things, and fun, then a country where its government is completely bad in the way of thinking because it prohibits games is not acceptable, because they are people who also need to know this world, they cannot and should not close the doors, because everyone needs things to be very clear in this, one should not stick to what a government says all the time, sometimes you have to be irreverent, a government should never ever get involved in life. people's pockets, and if they allow it, then everything will be lost, because it is something that should never be.

My country was banned for a long time with casinos, because of a government that is still in power with a different government, yet it left misery, and it is still there, because all the wealth is stolen by the same governments, both the one that exists now and  other nations that are entering the country with great desire to continue exploiting it, and of course, if there is gold, oil, minerals and very valuable precious stones, then this is no better than a Dubai because it has sincerely been in the worst hands of the world, then it was so much so that the casinos were Prohibited and the use of the same was illegal, but of course the online casinos were not , they could not regulate all this, because despite everything the people are not very Active for this, without Now after the pandemic many became active with the caisos and are actively playing, now with the same government but with a different ruler since it released that clause of not continuing with the country in Ban mode, the caisnos are now allowed, but with a high Percentage of that the casinos pass their good Cuts to the Government.

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November 21, 2023, 02:44:58 PM
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It depends on where you live. If it is banned by the government then it can be considered as illicit activity. If not then it's ok. As we all know many arab countries ban gambling and gambling related activity. Not that it is addicted but it is forbidden by their religion. It's against their believe. Even wuth these bans people are still gambling. I think, if gambling can be taken under proper rules and regulations then it's fine. Because as long as it's properly monitored no illigal activity might happen. As an example, money laundeing. The sad thing is where I live it isn't as regulated as it should be. We do have strict rules. But nobody seems to follow it.

Our lives are too limited by conventions and rules. But a person is always striving to get at least a breath of freedom. Gambling gives this feeling of freedom. Therefore, people will participate in gambling against all prohibitions - legal and moral
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