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November 01, 2023, 04:12:00 PM
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The rate of poverty across the globe is becoming worrisome. Many people are continually crossing below the poverty line to the state of depression. I was heartbroken seeing the number of people struggling to enter the US as  shared by Elon Musk in X. Weather we choose to believe it or not, there is an impending global problem that if concerted effort is not put at addressing, there will be chaos. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?

I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

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November 01, 2023, 04:19:43 PM
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Bitcoin offers the possibility of being paid for online jobs without bureaucracy and expensive costs of transactions through its decentralized blockchain and nature. However, without jobs, there isn't Bitcoin, as it's just a currency, a mean of payment people receive for their effort, deeds and skills. We can't expect to solve the poverty problem in the world by sharing free money with everyone. People still have to develop a career, to become proficient in something they can assist the society and then be paid for that.

Only then Bitcoin comes into the play, as people can be paid through the digital currency, which is much more interesting thinking on future gains and fighting inflation than fiat ones.

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November 01, 2023, 04:23:10 PM
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Let's not look at bitcoins as an over-all problem solver; let's also think outside the box. The rate of poverty increasing day by day is both the cause of the government, whose citizens are below the poverty rate, and that of the citizens themselves. If the government fails to create jobs and other things that can keep the country moving and opportunities being created, what are you doing as a citizen?
 
Most times people feel very reluctant, as if they can never do anything for themselves and escape poverty in a country that's not doing well. If you come from someone where the country doesn't care much about job creation, you as a citizen of such a place should focus on self-development and build yourself to a standard that people will need your service. You can, from your developed skills, employ many others, and from there you have been able to lift one or two people in your locality off the unemployment list.
 
Is it not someone who has something to feed and is in good health who will be able to spare out a few dollars and invest in bitcoin, and even if they try and save out that little penny and invest, how long do you think it will take for it to give them profit, and how many times profit do you think they will get from it that will be enough to change one's financial status? What the people need now is to be more industrious, create jobs for themselves, or look for one and attach themselves? I don't see bitcoin lifting poverty from anyone's life currently.

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November 01, 2023, 04:26:08 PM
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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

I doubt it. Bitcoin has a limited liquidity while the global poverty is more than the marketcap of Bitcoin. Even the government with unlimited supply fiat failed to address poverty.

Bitcoin investment might help to get you some profit but it’s not sufficient to defeat poverty especially if you are only investing small amount of money on it. This is possible when we are on the initial phase of Bitcoin which the price is near a dollar each since the growth is exponential but right now the price is discovered and having even x10 gain is very hard to accomplish on the current price.

Investing on Bitcoin is not bad if you are poor but don’t rely on it solely to getaway from poverty since you will need steady source of income to maintain consistent investment and purchasing your necessities.

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November 01, 2023, 04:44:26 PM
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It's not just about fast means because Bitcoin cannot provide an answer to when people will get big profits by investing.
Bitcoin is not the answer to the problem of poverty because Bitcoin is actually a payment system created to make it easier for users to make transactions without having to come and queue at the central bank.

Considering that many people use Bitcoin as an investment and many have gotten big returns when the price experienced a big increase, people think that Bitcoin can solve problems such as poverty which continues to increase every year.
From this we can understand that people's mindset about Bitcoin is no longer on the right track due to hearing one-sided stories from someone who became rich by selling all the Bitcoin they owned.

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November 01, 2023, 04:49:29 PM
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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

I beg to differ from your opinion, bitcoin is here to solve many problems like making transactions fast most especially cross border transactions, you been able to be your own bank and having a currency or asset that hedges against inflation. But been a poverty alleviation scheme I don’t see it been that, although many of its traders or investors have the advantage of getting profits because it generates ROI but that also comes with the risk of losing. Losing can only be avoided when you hodl for long but do an average or poor individual has that ability to turn an eye away? I doubt.

A poverty alleviation scheme is something that employs people or give loans to people to start a business. Bitcoin is not that, although there are tech savvy people that could work and get paid by bitcoin but will that solve much of the problem No?.

Bitcoin mining is only area where you can actually work and earn as business but even that requires funds and knowledge to set up

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If you're already struggling I don't know if investing in a hugely volatile asset will help. They're better off trying to create new income streams instead of investing in assets, to be honest. They should only buy bitcoin with a small enough allocation whereas they won't be forced to sell if they needed cash.

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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?
First, bitcoin is not a miracle or something that your problem will be solved once you have it. Second, not all who hold bitcoin become successful, some experience the worst. And it takes time before to make profit, not because you did profit last month, it doesn't mean it will be the same in the new few weeks. Lastly, only those knowledgeable did make a progress and success. I doubt farmers just like you mentioned can grasps these kind of knowledge and it always takes time, I'm not saying they can't learn, but most who experience poverty priorities to find job instead of going to school, it is the same thought about it if you will think about it.

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November 01, 2023, 05:12:22 PM
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I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week.

People think that Bitcoin investment is only for the Rich because of its price, and most of them think they have to buy 1 BTC. Also, $10 a week isn't little, cause you're talking about poverty and not the state of being broke. In poverty, people barely see food to eat, they most definitely don't eat 3 times daily and sideline their wants. So, for a poor person to invest in Bitcoin is really not as easy as you think.

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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

No doubt that Bitcoin opens a lot of doors of opportunities, however, investing in Bitcoin is not a cure for poverty. How much do you think a poor person would be able to invest to see encouraging gains? and we know that Bitcoin investment isn't magic; it takes time after the highs and lows.




 

 

 

 

 

 


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The rate of poverty across the globe is becoming worrisome. Many people are continually crossing below the poverty line to the state of depression. I was heartbroken seeing the number of people struggling to enter the US as  shared by Elon Musk in X. Weather we choose to believe it or not, there is an impending global problem that if concerted effort is not put at addressing, there will be chaos. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?
Chaos will not happen just because of the level of poverty. Bitcoin can help with this problem, but not for everyone.

I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.
Investments in bitcoin are intended for all segments of the population, regardless of their level of financial well-being. Invest at least $10, at least $1000, the profitability in both cases will be the same (I mean the multiple of the profit received).

Bitcoin will not make poor people who invest $10 a week rich, but it will prevent them from slipping into deeper poverty. Although this sounds overly reassuring, in any case it is better than storing this money in cash.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?
Bitcoin offers a unique opportunity not only to speculators, but to all people in general and not only for making money. I think you are very wrong and bitcoin will not change the rapid decline in poverty. Yesterday celebrated the 15th anniversary of the publication of the Bitcoin white paper, you can look at the corresponding topic, and so, in this white paper there is not a word that the bitcoin can or should solve problems related to poverty. It is just a unique form of electronic money used as an investment tool, not a magic wand to cure poverty.

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Bitcoin can help the unbanked & less fortunate countries in the future. Its decentralized nature allows individuals to access financial services without relying on traditional banking infrastructure. Bitcoin can provide a secure & low cost means of transferring funds which enables financial inclusion for those without access to traditional banking services. I guess challenges such as technological barriers, regulatory frameworks & volatility need to be addressed for widespread adoption. While Bitcoin holds promise it should be seen as one tool among many in the broader effort to promote financial inclusion & economic empowerment.

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The rate of poverty across the globe is becoming worrisome. Many people are continually crossing below the poverty line to the state of depression. I was heartbroken seeing the number of people struggling to enter the US as  shared by Elon Musk in X. Weather we choose to believe it or not, there is an impending global problem that if concerted effort is not put at addressing, there will be chaos. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?

I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?
I Agree with you that it's an impending global crisis when it comes to income per capita especially within the middle income earners and the lower class, but bitcoin can only come in to salvage the situation if this number of immigrants or people that have fallen below the poverty lines have jobs and can keep or save money so they can invest in Bitcoin. hence they don't have that purchasing power, it will be very difficult for them to successfully invest in Bitcoin, so first they need to earn, so that they can invest.

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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

How does bitcoin help in this situation? Your point of view is clear, but your assumptions appear to be ridiculous when we consider the many elements that surround it. For example, if all bitcoin have already been mined and the complete number of individuals in the globe living in poverty invest an equivalent amount of money in bitcoin, determine if it will lift all of those people out of poverty. Bitcoin can assist, but not as much as you might think in terms of lifting people out of poverty. To eliminate and limit the increase in poverty, all hands must be on deck.

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I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.
In many developing nations, $10 per week summing up to $40 per month is above the minimum wage, not something that an average Joe makes in a month, and definitely what they can spare in a week.

Bitcoin cannot fix poverty and is not a get rich quick scheme. If you're a potential immigrant your focus should be on trying to improve your financial status through multiple income sources and grow up from there.

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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?
Well I am a Bitcoin enthusiast and I believe Bitcoin would really improve the financial system in terms of it's advantages over the traditional financial system.
But Bitcoin as an investment opportunities promising individuals regards of their financial status a world of riches then I would say that's asking for too much.

Bitcoin investment isn't something new, there has been inviting in stocks, shares and trading, also real estate and land properties has existed but yet there poor people exist let's be honest investing in Bitcoin for great profits requires a good amount of capital right now, so Bitcoin for the poor or average still requires patient and gradual accumulation for a good amount of time.

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Bitcoin can only play important role if they finds its valuable, anyone who doesn't make investment or trying to spare some funds to invest in bitcoin can never witnessed and enjoy the efficacy of it where as those who invested in time or discovered bitcoin at the earliest stage are enjoying the fullness of it. Come to think of this for you think the poor will give attention to bitcoin where as they can't even merely afford their three square meal a day and you think they can save upto $10 per week/months for investment?

Have you gone into street to see countless of people who begs for food to survive, at this point bitcoin has no impact to their lives rather for that to happen it will be that a program is being carried out to help those who can't afford a living to be gifted some items with the sole purpose of promoting a max adoption of bitcoin and cryptocurrency at large. It can only play a vital role when anyone is able to invest and hold by then we can say they are beneficiaries of bitcoin and blockchain at large.

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The rate of poverty across the globe is becoming worrisome. Many people are continually crossing below the poverty line to the state of depression. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?
That's not the primary aim by which Bitcoin was created, because Bitcoin have longed time fulfilled its primary purpose and still fulfilling it by putting us in charge of our funds instead of the central banks, nor governments, and as such you shouldn't expect Bitcoin to eradicate poverty by people who barely knows how it works, nor have a clue how it operate as a digital currency. Because it's proven that all those who bought BTC 8 to 10years ago and could hold it for long are now millionaires. So you shouldn't expect Bitcoin to come make such move overnight now again this 2023, as such are always a gradual process.

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Bitcoin was never created by Satoshi for a set class of individuals in the society, as it is a free decentralized digital currency that do not discriminate either between rich, nor poor, hence, available to everyone inasmuch as you have the funds and can afford any fraction of it.

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I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?
Have you ever heard the word diversity? It's a word from a biology book that means different species and different types of those species living in an ecosystem and how all of them are dependent on them. I said it because if all of the people will adopt BTC and start to think that they can eliminate global poverty, then it is a dumb idea because I don't think that poverty at the global level can be eliminated even if you use BTC or any other approach.

And investing $10 or $5 a week in BTC might look small, but it gives one hope—a hope to earn more and make some difference. I am poor, but not anymore since I got into BTC. If one invests $10 a week in BTC, he will make $20 sometime, double that amount, and so on.

BTC provides a way for the poor to get out of poverty, but not for all, and not everyone can benefit from it, and that's the nature of life. Not all fingers are equal. The bigger ones have no fear of money and they are taking risk, they can take risk, but poor have a lot to lose.

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The rate of poverty across the globe is becoming worrisome. Many people are continually crossing below the poverty line to the state of depression. I was heartbroken seeing the number of people struggling to enter the US as  shared by Elon Musk in X. Weather we choose to believe it or not, there is an impending global problem that if concerted effort is not put at addressing, there will be chaos. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?

I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?


Thus, every opportunity needs proper knowledge and guidance. some of the people you are pertaining to will just choose to not invest but just spend the money-savings that they have.

For me, It should always start from the Government in terms of Controlling in a good way for the Lower Class. Education is always a must.

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What does one thing have to do with the other, that is, bitcoin (alone does not work), it is not something that allows you to instantly change lives, it is a technological means that allows you to sustain financial openness to all....etc.

It is in fact somewhat confusing to always see this type of Gregorian ideas join to bitcoin.
Consequently, because people who have so much money end up helping poor countries through NGOs, because money is not everything, they need infrastructure and a labor liability, and to create awareness among those who can provide solutions,so, in short, bitcoin can be a part but not the whole of a project for humanitarian aid.

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I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

Indeed Bitcoin investment is considered to be a good return and worthy investment for the future. Rich people invest more in Bitcoin because they have more capital. It cannot be denied that investing in Bitcoin requires a large sum of money. People who have less capital can certainly invest in Bitcoin, but they are less likely to get the returns they expect from Bitcoin.

A person who will invest $10 per week in Bitcoin, think for yourself, at this time Bitcoin is trading around $35k, how much profit will he get from investing in Bitcoin. The only reason I can think of is that if the lower class invests in Bitcoin with little money, and forgets about it for a long time, then they can get a good return. One should not expect high returns from less money for short term.


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Hmm, I'm curious how people think of Bitcoin, I know it's the right of everyone that He/She can have open thoughts, but sometimes it sounds like over-expectations.

I'm not saying anything that OP's thinking too much just presenting my point of view that global poverty is not a new issue, it can be more emerging recently due to huge coverage and social media. OP asked if is there anything Bitcoin could do, buddy the answer is not simple Bitcoin cant help directly in anything because it's not an assistance provider, Bitcoin is just a payment system.

It can help with the opportunities we can grab by exploring different aspects of it, as payment processors charge huge Bitcoinc and save that huge transaction spending, people can get out of the Traditional finance traps, high interests, etc, etc. They can explore many opportunities here, such as trading, financial planning, and better financial assistance services compared to the traditional ones.

What can really help in bringing people up from this middle-class trap, is a good education, I've seen many changing their lives from the lower middle-class to the upper middle-class by just getting educated and working timely on good skills.

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The only thing that Bitcoin could help with was in the past, 10 or 12 years ago, when you could easily buy 10 Bitcoins or more and then sell them when the price of Bitcoin reached 100k to obtain residency in the United States or citizenship of any country whose citizenship you could buy from. With a visa for that country, you can live safely in any country.
You can now improve the living situation in your country by investing the surplus in Bitcoin and waiting for several years.

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In all our expectations in Bitcoin, we need to understand that bitcoin is a currency and the idea of the creator of the coin was for it to be a currency. But due to the price volatility, it has now looked like Bitcoin is more of an investment asset than being a currency.

Why did I have to recap the above known fact, it is to let us know that we need to work in order to earn before we could buy bitcoin. Someone who has no job and no viable way to earn, how will bitcoin help the person? The role bitcoin will play in the context of OP is to fight against inflation when saving in BTC.

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The rate of poverty across the globe is becoming worrisome. Many people are continually crossing below the poverty line to the state of depression. I was heartbroken seeing the number of people struggling to enter the US as  shared by Elon Musk in X. Weather we choose to believe it or not, there is an impending global problem that if concerted effort is not put at addressing, there will be chaos. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?

I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?
Investing is not really for the rich, but you need at least to have some sort of job and earn enough to satisfy your needs and still have a little extra you can save each month, and depending on how big is that amount investing still may not be the best decision, and that money could be put to better use to start a small business and generate another income stream for you, then as you can see bitcoin will not really be the best choice for those people as they are betting everything they have just for the opportunity to get to the US.

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Bitcoin can help your life when you utilise Bitcoin but is not investment you will go into and you start making a huge profit so bitcoin is good investment and the aspect bitcoin help you is when you invest and leave it to grow, like long term investment not a short term investment the way I do see bitcoin, their is something we need to know every investment will help only when you understand the investment, and if you can have a patients when you invest in bitcoin you will make profit and at the moment the profits you make can also help your life.

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November 01, 2023, 09:23:24 PM
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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

Well, I don't doubt that because Bitcoin is in fact a great asset that anyone can have but it won't be helpful to decrease the poverty a lot because many people who belong to lower class don't really know the technical aspects of Bitcoin and for such people who aren't much educated investing in Bitcoin could be a very risky investment.

Those people have to trust others who may purchase Bitcoin for them and the other people can scam those poor people easily. Bitcoin isn't for everyone especially it's not for the ones who aren't educated enough to know the technology as those people won't be able to invest in Bitcoin directly.

Bitcoin is for those people who are good at technology and such people may have at least some knowledge to purchase and store Bitcoin because without that they won't be able to earn any profits from Bitcoin.

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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

I am into Bitcoin but I do not think Bitcoin or Bitcoin investment is the solution to poverty.  Remember at the current trend of Bitcoin, the day where profit multiplies by hundred times is gone.  The last cycle's lowest and highest price (2018-2021) are $3,240.13(December 15, 2018) and $68,789.63 (November 10, 2021) has only 21x profit if we happen to invest at the lowest and sell at the highest which somehow almost impossible to execute.

I do not think that we can still gain a 21x profit in this current cycle since the current cycle lowest price is $15,760 (December 18, 202) unless something extra ordinary happen to push Bullish market to surge crazy.

Aside from that, remember during those accumulation time, poor people will have to sacrifice part of their income in order to have a good profit from Bitcoin investment, this will be hard on them since their funds for their basic needs will get smaller.  These kind of people will suffer more thus may increase the degree of poverty they experienced if they decide to invest and accumulate Bitcoin even in DCA mode.

What resolve poverty is by finding an immediate source of income that does not needs years to decade of years of waiting before getting a reasonable profit.  Finding an additional job that can give the family an additional income can elevate their status and combat poverty.  The government need to help in this and Bitcoin being decentralized cannot do anything about poverty, it can be a tool but it will never be the initiator.



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It can help if those people actually have Bitcoin but that's not the whole point. Because with this problem, it should be dealt by an actual agency or organizations that will help them. Another thing is that, it won't be a solution that we can see that will actually solve it on an instant because that seems to be what's being brought by OP here. The result if they're going to invest in Bitcoin is possible to become positive because we're all for that. But if they're in the situation of poverty, they can't even provide meals complete at least 3 times a day for their family, they won't invest into Bitcoin and what's an investment to them is just surviving all day long, thinking of what will be the meal tomorrow and by next week.

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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

Addressing global poverty doesn't hinge on investing in Bitcoin; it's crucial for governments to take the lead in improving their economies and generating more job opportunities. A sustainable solution involves creating conditions where people can live comfortably. Investing in Bitcoin could be a consideration for the future once individuals are financially capable, as while Bitcoin is a good asset, it remains a risky investment. What people need is a consistent income source, which Bitcoin doesn't provide. It's primarily suitable for long-term investments if one aims for a life-altering outcome.

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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?
Don't get your hopes up too high because in the end bitcoin is just a tool for investment and not a global poverty solver that can't even be solved in a few generations.
The problem of poverty is a real problem and being in bitcoin is a good thing but don't make the idea that bitcoin can change poverty because it is clearly not possible in my opinion but indeed the positive thing is that you can change yourself if you are really serious about the investment made because it will definitely get a good thing in the end. But to associate the problem of global poverty with bitcoin is actually too far in my opinion.

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This is just real-talk, I will say. In my few years in the cryptocurrency business, I have seen and observed that if you want to get rich or improve your life through Bitcoin, you must have the ability to buy more than one Bitcoin, because just imagine if you buy a Bitcoin at the price it has today and it becomes $100,000 each. You can buy your dreams in life that you want to have.

What about those who can't afford to buy one bitcoin? For example, I can't buy 1 bitcoin at this time. Even if I think that I can buy bitcoin every month for 0.005 btc, after 1 year, the total is 0.05 btc, and bitcoins have reached 100 000 dollars each. How much is that? although that's a lot of money. But it can't buy the dream of a house and lot that I want. Do you get it?

Here now comes the Altcoins alternative coin that has the potential to give me big earnings in the future and is on the top list of the market.
This can also go along with the rise of bitcoin.

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This poverty issue has been on existence or on ground since and when bitcoin came it help many to rank up from the poverty level to middle class level. Bitcoin is already helping people to come out from poverty and those who are still suffering and has not come out from the poverty line should embrace bitcoin to come out and those who have not heard about bitcoin need the knowledge of bitcoin to come out from the poverty line.

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Bitcoin can help your life when you utilise Bitcoin but is not investment you will go into and you start making a huge profit so bitcoin is good investment and the aspect bitcoin help you is when you invest and leave it to grow, like long term investment not a short term investment the way I do see bitcoin, their is something we need to know every investment will help only when you understand the investment, and if you can have a patients when you invest in bitcoin you will make profit and at the moment the profits you make can also help your life.

You are right; bitcoin is a long-term investment; you have to go long if you want a big return. Yes, bitcoin can be short-term in the form of trading, but it will only be day trading or scalping, which is too risky and doesn't utilise the potential profit of bitcoin. You have to trade long-term to maximise the potential profit. Or holding bitcoin. That's why you are right about the fact that an investor in bitcoin requires a lot of patience to survive in bitcoin.

Bitcoin may be a good help or investment for many, but not for all. Why? Because, as I said, it is a long-term investment, not everyone has the capability to invest and wait for that long-term return, as many will need money for their daily lives. Bitcoin may be a big help, but bitcoin investment is, I think, not for everyone. If they want to try and enter bitcoin, then do so, but you don't have a guarantee that you will earn.

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The rate of poverty across the globe is becoming worrisome. Many people are continually crossing below the poverty line to the state of depression. I was heartbroken seeing the number of people struggling to enter the US as  shared by Elon Musk in X. Weather we choose to believe it or not, there is an impending global problem that if concerted effort is not put at addressing, there will be chaos. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?

I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?
Everybody can buy bitcoin but many of those poor people unfortunately often times need all the money they make to sustain the family and buy food. Another problem is the lack of financial culture which is huge in developed countries, let alone third world countries. And let's not forget that bitcoin is not an easy ride, maybe someone buys at the top and in front of him there are 2-3 years of bear market, not too many people can handle that, many simply sell at loss.

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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty. What do you think?

Please do not expect Bitcoin to solve everything. Please do not encourage them to invest in Bitcoin while they are struggling to live their life. Most of the time, these people will be short of money and unable to hold their Bitcoin. If I do not have enough money to live my life, I will be forced to sell my savings to buy necessary things.

As you already know, you won't be in profit all the time. If you want to make some profit from Bitcoin, you have to invest and wait. People who can save $10 a week surely do not make that much money.

Moreover, most people suggest only investing if you can afford to lose money. Do not expect too much from Bitcoin. Most people are likely to lose their money because of their high expectations.

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Yeah, there are lots of poor people all over the world. Even in my country, I kind of believe the number of poor people here is greater than that of the rich and very rich. But Bitcoin is not just what can bring an end to their poverty.

It's said that money is a problem solver, and how do you make this money? It's by working, offering a service, and getting paid for it. Bitcoin is not centralized and doesn't have an office, so people don't work for Bitcoin organizations to get paid (I believe you get my point? ). Just like bank workers, Bitcoin doesn't have any organization.

So, to get money, you have to offer a service that is needed in society, and you get money in exchange for your service. To multiply that money, you have to save and add more value to your service or business. To multiplay the money, you can also invest. There's a saying that money makes more money. That's to say that if you have $20k and you invest it, it will make more money for you, let's say $25k ($5k profit), depending on where you invested the money.

Before one can invest in Bitcoin, they should already be earning money from somewhere, while Bitcoin can just be like their other sources to invest and multiplay the money they have earned.

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you need to go back to the basics mate, why is there poverty in the first place?

malnutrition, lack of education and job opportunities, low salary and even lack of infrastructure are all factors
attributing to poverty in which all can be traced back to the government
 if the government itself is corrupt or not capable of tending to all of their citizens’ needs do you think bitcoin can solve all of their problems?

sure bitcoin can help, sure, but there’s a lot of basic necessities that needs to be met before they can even think about investment

the best you can do right now is to share knowledge to those who are capable introduce them to the world of cryptocurrency but make sure they fully understand how it works so that they don’t end up with losses

Bitcoin can help your life when you utilise Bitcoin but is not investment you will go into and you start making a huge profit so bitcoin is good investment and the aspect bitcoin help you is when you invest and leave it to grow,
It is for long term thats it,simple and not need to elaborate

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It isn’t advisable to use bitcoin in short term or day trading as it is slow moving but secure.

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I think the reasons why illegal immigrants enter the US are very complex and varied. If this is considered a big problem, then I don't think the root of the problem of illegal immigrants entering the US can be solved with Bitcoin alone. I see that economic factors are not the only reason they move countries illegally, it could be that they want to escape violence or political instability in their home country. Or maybe they just want to gather with their families who have previously settled in the US. No one knows for sure.

If we know Bitcoin as an investment instrument and some also consider it a forced currency to solve this problem, of course it is not effective. Bitcoin never offers big profits to be able to support someone, but there are some people who can make money with BTC ... thanks to Bitcoin with the help of their intelligence. I think the roots of the problem of illegal immigrants are too diverse to be able to generalize the solution using Bitcoin.

Don't think Bitcoin can do magical things like that. Even if you think Bitcoin can cure diseases of the human body, I think you have gone too far to think Bitcoin is everything.
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In most of the countries around the world, the poverty rate of people is not decreasing day by day but increasing. Especially in my country the highest rate of poverty has increased where no one is getting government jobs. And I am a child of a poor family where my studies are nearing the end but I could not find any job instead I came to Bitcoin to run my daily expenses. People have become rich from Bitcoin every many people have become rich by investing in Bitcoin and many people have become millionaires. Seeing all these things, most of the people in the world are currently flocking and investing in Bitcoin. It says bitcoin investment is only for the rich, because we know that bitcoin is not defined as rich or poor, why people can invest. But going to a government job there is a lot of difference between rich and poor, but investing in Bitcoin here is no daily poor middle class poor no difference everyone can do it. You can invest any amount of money you want in Bitcoin and you can keep it for a long time and you can get profit from it. So if you want to change your future by investing in bitcoins, you must start small and gradually work your way up to big levels.

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The rate of poverty across the globe is becoming worrisome. Many people are continually crossing below the poverty line to the state of depression. I was heartbroken seeing the number of people struggling to enter the US as  shared by Elon Musk in X. Weather we choose to believe it or not, there is an impending global problem that if concerted effort is not put at addressing, there will be chaos. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?

I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

Do you mean bitcoin can help reduce poverty rates or will it eradicate poverty? Do you think making money from bitcoin is easy? Although the price of bitcoin keeps increasing every year, so far not everyone has changed their lives, not everyone has profited from it, and the number of losers is more than the number of winners. So do you think it will help alleviate poverty?

Bitcoin is an investment and there will be risks, winning or losing depends on each person. Bitcoin does not print money to give it to everyone for free, it does not create jobs to help people have jobs to generate income.

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Yes, Bitcoin can help a nation to eliminate poor economy, if their government can take a good step in this massive inflation that is affecting global economy to create a good environment where citizens can easily learn many things that related to cryptocurrency. There is no way government can grant their citizens access to Bitcoin and cryptocurrency, and their citizens will not be good in long term and short term investment, because that is the major place many cryptocurrency users always use to achieve income from their investment. I came to discovered that Bitcoin has reduced a lot of things in some countries economy that made it legalized in their countries, and it has helped them to introduced foreigners into their countries to boost their economy.

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Yes, Bitcoin can contribute to making people's lives better through investing in Bitcoin or through the business that Bitcoin provides on the Internet, ease of payment, etc., but we should not go so far as to say that Bitcoin can eliminate poverty in the world.

This is a huge exaggeration. Do not forget that the poor people you are talking about live in a poor country and primitive areas that do not have the slightest infrastructure suitable for working or investing in Bitcoin. These poor areas do not have the Internet or perhaps even electricity, and people suffer from poverty and ignorance and do not know anything about Bitcoin, so how can Could Bitcoin be a reason for eliminating poverty there?

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Yes, Bitcoin can help a nation to eliminate poor economy, if their government can take a good step in this massive inflation that is affecting global economy to create a good environment where citizens can easily learn many things that related to cryptocurrency. There is no way government can grant their citizens access to Bitcoin and cryptocurrency, and their citizens will not be good in long term and short term investment, because that is the major place many cryptocurrency users always use to achieve income from their investment. I came to discovered that Bitcoin has reduced a lot of things in some countries economy that made it legalized in their countries, and it has helped them to introduced foreigners into their countries to boost their economy.
El Salvador has been accepting bitcoin as legal tender for the past two years, although it is still early to say that the country has failed to accept bitcoin. But do you see economic improvement or people's lives getting better when bitcoin is accepted there? Bitcoin is just an investment, it cannot help a country's economy reduce inflation or help that country's economy grow if it only relies on bitcoin. Bitcoin is not a panacea for the world, we should not exaggerate everything about bitcoin.

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It is only the government that can uplift people from poverty and not bitcoin, this is because anyone that want to really benefit from bitcoin must take a long time before he can see his profit, since bitcoin is a long term investment for you to make profit from it. You don't think that the poor ones that hardly eat well in a day will be able to invest into bitcoin and wait patiently to reap their profit when they don't have what to eat.

The people that are making profit from bitcoin are traders and people that earn in bitcoin and I don't that a poor man can go into trading that is very risky and can make one loss all his bitcoin if he makes a wrong decision. It is unethical to advise newbies or people who are managing to invest in bitcoin to jump into trading without any skill because they will end up at loss.

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November 02, 2023, 04:07:16 AM
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Bitcoin can help from the investment side. If a lower class person can only invest in Bitcoin at $10 per week, they can have their investment and should be able to be patient for a few years. Investing in Bitcoin cannot provide profits in the short term but can provide benefits in the long term. The problem is, can they be patient and wait until the value of their investment increases?

It all starts with small things. Bitcoin might be one solution to overcome poverty by investing. But before investing in Bitcoin, they must understand it by studying it.

But the reality is that there are still many people who don't even know Bitcoin. They still have difficulty meeting their daily needs and may not be able to allocate a certain amount of money to invest in Bitcoin. This is what they must understand so that they can open their minds to start investing in Bitcoin.

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November 02, 2023, 05:56:50 AM
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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

Bitcoin is not a miracle that can help everything, including poverty. Bitcoin is digital money or digital assets, nothing more than that. Maybe investing in bitcoin will provide profits but you definitely know that the price of bitcoin is very volatile, so there is no certainty that we will make a profit when investing in bitcoin, in the long term the profit is likely to be higher but in the short term it is very risky

So poverty and bitcoin are two different fields. It would be more logical if we gave him a donation to help provide them with food, introducing bitcoin is not a solution for people who have no money or jobs.

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November 02, 2023, 06:14:39 AM
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Yes, Bitcoin can contribute to making people's lives better through investing in Bitcoin or through the business that Bitcoin provides on the Internet, ease of payment, etc., but we should not go so far as to say that Bitcoin can eliminate poverty in the world.

This is a huge exaggeration. Do not forget that the poor people you are talking about live in a poor country and primitive areas that do not have the slightest infrastructure suitable for working or investing in Bitcoin. These poor areas do not have the Internet or perhaps even electricity, and people suffer from poverty and ignorance and do not know anything about Bitcoin, so how can Could Bitcoin be a reason for eliminating poverty there?

To be able to invest in bitcoin, they need money and many people don't even have enough money to eat 3 meals a day, where do they get the money to invest in bitcoin? Not to mention, bitcoin does not guarantee profits for anyone, bitcoin not only brings profits but it also has risks involved. For the poor, if there is no knowledge and they invest money they cannot lose, what will happen to them if bitcoin is dumped? Bitcoin is just an investment tool and whether we have the ability to make money on it or not is entirely up to us, bitcoin does not guarantee anything. You're right, many people are over-exaggerating it.



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November 02, 2023, 06:22:28 AM
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I think about it too and ideally speaking, yes. Bitcoin can help poverty. The concept of using bitcoin  to address financial challenges and solve poverty holds promise but it's important to approach it with a realistic perspective. While the idea of using cryptocurrencies for poverty is appealing, it's crucial to address these challenges and implement supportive policies and educational initiatives to maximize their potential benefits. We have to use  cryptocurrencies into a broader strategy that includes education, healthcare and  economic development efforts that  can create a more comprehensive approach to poverty reduction. I mean when you think about it, just the initial investment to bitcoin is out of reach for the poor.

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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

Bitcoin is a volatile asset and I don't recommend people, who lack financial education to invest in risky and volatile assets.
No, Bitcoin cannot help for ending global poverty. Bitcoin is not some magical financial tool that will bring guaranteed profits and make everyone rich and happy. Trading on the financial markets is a zero sum game. The profits of one trader are the loses of another trader.
Global poverty can be reduced by mass education and mass industrialization of the underdeveloped countries. This would be a double edged sword for the developed countries, because they will have to compete with industrialized underdeveloped countries, where the cost of labor is lower.

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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

Bitcoin is a volatile asset and I don't recommend people, who lack financial education to invest in risky and volatile assets.
No, Bitcoin cannot help for ending global poverty. Bitcoin is not some magical financial tool that will bring guaranteed profits and make everyone rich and happy. Trading on the financial markets is a zero sum game. The profits of one trader are the loses of another trader.
Global poverty can be reduced by mass education and mass industrialization of the underdeveloped countries. This would be a double edged sword for the developed countries, because they will have to compete with industrialized underdeveloped countries, where the cost of labor is lower.


The market is a battlefield and bitcoin is also a financial market so it is ignorant to think that investing in bitcoin or bitcoin can help reduce poverty or reduce unemployment. Bitcoin is an asset just like gold or other assets, if it can help reduce poverty by investing in it then other assets and investments can do the same. People should stop being delusional about the power of bitcoin and stop over-exaggerating it as a pair of magic wands that can solve everything in the world.

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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

As a matter of fact, Bitcoin can not decrease global poverty because poverty depends on many factors. Bitcoin alone is not enough to elevate the socio-economic level of the people. Yes, it can help people with their earnings to an extent, but for that, the person should have some amount of savings to start investing. For example, if we talk about less fortunate countries where the daily wages are below 10$, how can one expect an investment into BTC from them?
I am of the opinion that only a privileged few from those countries will be able to invest in Bitcoin.   

DCA is a very good option, as you suggested. This way, it will not burden the individual, and he will have some investment for the future. But, for that, the person should be earning more than his needs. 
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Why do some people have such hope in Bitcoin? Asking such questions in our time and claiming that Bitcoin is a panacea for poverty is no longer modern. We need facts and evidence, not isolated cases, so that we can assume that Bitcoin saves us from poverty and, in general, from all universal ills. Essentially, what happens is that where poverty is prevalent, there is also a lack of education. How can people invest anything if they have neither a job nor a normal means of livelihood? If their only goal is to eat normally and feed their family, It is simply impossible to make such people wait for a “miracle day,” after which they will become rich.

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Weather we choose to believe it or not, there is an impending global problem that if concerted effort is not put at addressing, there will be chaos. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?

Bitcoin is a currency and not a poverty elimination solution, is not everytime we see problem's that has to do with poverty and we immediately think Bitcoin is the solution. Such mentality is why we have many moon boys in the market and they're causing more volatility to the market. Job provisions so those people can take care of themselves in their respective counties is the solution to those migration problem. People also have to be enlightened that they can make money online from any part of the world, they just need the right information as information is power. Them thinking that leaving their country in search of greener pastures in the western world would save them but when they're not equipped with valuables skills they'll still find it difficult in those countries they're running to.

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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

How do they start investing in Bitcoin when they don't have a job to look after their self and families. What those people need are job creation in their countries but their corrupt government won't provide them with jobs or make the policy of the country company friendly so private companies can pick interest in having branches in their country and provide jobs for their citizens. Nobody should think getting involved in Bitcoin immediately solve their poverty problem, they need jobs that can sustain them during the bearish season of the market so they can keep on holding their Bitcoin to make profits in the future and not looking for short period gain that makes them miss out of future gains.

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November 02, 2023, 10:13:56 AM
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Why do some people have such hope in Bitcoin? Asking such questions in our time and claiming that Bitcoin is a panacea for poverty is no longer modern. We need facts and evidence, not isolated cases, so that we can assume that Bitcoin saves us from poverty and, in general, from all universal ills. Essentially, what happens is that where poverty is prevalent, there is also a lack of education. How can people invest anything if they have neither a job nor a normal means of livelihood? If their only goal is to eat normally and feed their family, It is simply impossible to make such people wait for a “miracle day,” after which they will become rich.
I have to tell you that bitcoin will not be able to help those in the poverty line, unless they have a means to earn bitcoin and they have a phone which I don't think they have since they're trying to survive daily. Those in the poverty line would probably choose a short-term money over what bitcoin offers which is obviously long-term. Bitcoin itself can't do anything but the people that were lucky enough to benefit from the growth of bitcoin has the opportunity to help these people even if it's a temporary help like food packages or paying their rent, you know like what Mr. Beast does in his videos albeit you don't have to film yours since we've got enough poverty porn content creators already. I think that it's one of the ways that you can help impoverished people in your area.



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November 02, 2023, 10:15:06 AM
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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?
Bitcoin offers a better opportunity to those who want elevate to financially,  some people may think to invest in bitcoin is to become rich very  quick but bitcoin doesn't work that way. People can only get a better opportunity in bitcoin if only they understand that they need a source of income and invest it in bitcoin according to what they can afford it will help to fight against poverty but thinking just starting to invest in bitcoin will bring excessive money that will make one to be rich is a wrong thinking. Bitcoin was created as a support, to solve effect of depreciation of traditional currency when store in the bank.

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November 02, 2023, 10:22:23 AM
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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?
You are totally missing the point about what BTC is, it is not a network created for you to make a decent amount of money or to eradicate poverty in the world, it is because of ideas such as yours that so many people think BTC is a pyramid scheme and therefore a scam, which it is not. BTC is a decentralized and censorship resistant currency that should be used for payments, though it has other use cases and because of its volatility, you can buy it now and sell it later for a higher price, but that is not what it was created for.

Eradicating poverty is to be done by the government, and people can also do better for themselves by acquiring better education and skills, doing more jobs to increase their income, etc; take note that you also need to have a source of income in order to buy BTC, and people who are very poor would not think of buying even a single sat.

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November 02, 2023, 10:51:20 AM
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Why do some people have such hope in Bitcoin? Asking such questions in our time and claiming that Bitcoin is a panacea for poverty is no longer modern. We need facts and evidence, not isolated cases, so that we can assume that Bitcoin saves us from poverty and, in general, from all universal ills. Essentially, what happens is that where poverty is prevalent, there is also a lack of education. How can people invest anything if they have neither a job nor a normal means of livelihood? If their only goal is to eat normally and feed their family, It is simply impossible to make such people wait for a “miracle day,” after which they will become rich.

Poverty is not something that Bitcoin can actually solve by itself, this issue should be eliminated by the government as they are the one who have power to put laws and make use of the tax of the country. Bitcoin is just a digital currency where it exist as an alternate to our fiat currency, but due to it's volatility people use it to their advantage to make profit from it, plus it's a decentralized system that government can't control but of course they are free to use it as well. I think this will literally depends on the privileges, cause imagine poor people wanting to escape that life by just barely surviving everyday, where they would find funds to invest in Bitcoin right? They don't have the time to learn, study and find funds for investing, that's why government exist to help them. Unlike to some people who have extra time in their hands as they have financial to support their needs so they can explore into investment. It could help some people as we seen in the forum before, where people use Bitcoin profits to help the poor.

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November 02, 2023, 12:08:59 PM
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If you're already struggling I don't know if investing in a hugely volatile asset will help.

You are right @ mk4. I have been a practical example of such where I finds it hard to earn living with the gazes at responsibilities on me that are yet to me attended to.
Yet I struggles to survive.
I have heard so much about the potentials to enrichment of Bitcoin then I could Invest the least I had with me hoping to explore over night but reverse was the case where the volatility of the coin was against me and that was the only source I leaned on to minimize my struggle but how could I exercise patient on Bitcoin all at the aiming to have a bull run in the Bitcoin markets while I am starving of hunger? Of course it ended me a regret for putting my cash in am investment that requires me the ability to exercise patient besides... The market values was against my wills then I had to hastenly sell it out before I am total run down all because I am starving and needed something to eat.

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November 02, 2023, 12:19:43 PM
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The instigation of investing in Bitcoin with whatever amount is not for the struggles who has no other source to obtain their essential commodity needs.
Even though the coin volatility is on the side of a struggling investor, without a bull run, the investor would never be impressed due to the dulling increase in value of the coin which definitely the struggling investor would not have the ability to exercise such patient because survival as staying alive is a first considerations to lives.

Bitcoin is a potential with foremost expectations to profer profits but due to its volatility, it could profer looses at times that is why patient is a keyword to its being to succeed which is impossible for the struggles to adhere to.

Bitcoin is apparently not for the struggles unless there is other means of income or means to essential nneds. Then the is liable to limit the values and rates of poverty or enhances to profer enrichments to its investors.

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November 02, 2023, 12:41:48 PM
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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

I doubt it. Bitcoin has a limited liquidity while the global poverty is more than the marketcap of Bitcoin. Even the government with unlimited supply fiat failed to address poverty.
I don't really understand what you mean by limited liquidity. If Bitcoin hits mainstream, that will just mean more people will engage in the business of buying and selling with Bitcoin and this will be done hitch-free. That is liquidity. Are you saying that there will be sellers without buyers? How will there be balance of trader? As the use increases, the liquidity will.

Bitcoin investment might help to get you some profit but it’s not sufficient to defeat poverty especially if you are only investing small amount of money on it.
Even though I understand your point, I still believe that anyone who invested in Bitcoin years ago like 2014, even if its $100, that would have yield substantial profits that can make such person cross above the poverty line.

Now we are at a point where Bitcoin is still cheap in such a way that $100 can give nice amount when Bitcoin reaches like $750k that many people are projecting it would.

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It depends but at the end of the day, bitcoins are just an asset that you could just simply buy low and sell high. You need to have enough knowledge in order to make money from it because you need to learn daily trading if you want to make it your daily job. in other words, it is just simply like any other source of income where you need the basic necessity to make it a money-making platform. But most people are just buying bitcoins and holding them for the long term or until they see the price worth selling their bitcoins. Nothing special here you just need to have enough patience to wait and not to listen to any FUDS whenever there's one.

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November 02, 2023, 12:47:04 PM
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Yes, Bitcoin can contribute to making people's lives better through investing in Bitcoin or through the business that Bitcoin provides on the Internet, ease of payment, etc., but we should not go so far as to say that Bitcoin can eliminate poverty in the world.

This is a huge exaggeration. Do not forget that the poor people you are talking about live in a poor country and primitive areas that do not have the slightest infrastructure suitable for working or investing in Bitcoin. These poor areas do not have the Internet or perhaps even electricity, and people suffer from poverty and ignorance and do not know anything about Bitcoin, so how can Could Bitcoin be a reason for eliminating poverty there?

To be able to invest in bitcoin, they need money and many people don't even have enough money to eat 3 meals a day, where do they get the money to invest in bitcoin? Not to mention, bitcoin does not guarantee profits for anyone, bitcoin not only brings profits but it also has risks involved. For the poor, if there is no knowledge and they invest money they cannot lose, what will happen to them if bitcoin is dumped? Bitcoin is just an investment tool and whether we have the ability to make money on it or not is entirely up to us, bitcoin does not guarantee anything. You're right, many people are over-exaggerating it.
If we cannot meet our daily needs then it will not be possible for us to think about how to invest. Of course they must first think about their needs. After they can fulfill their needs, of course they will be able to think about what they invest in and of course they must choose the investment that is right for what they want. Without knowledge, of course they will not be able to get a profit from the investment they make, so it is very important for those who want to make an investment to understand how to get it and how to make a profit from the investment they make.

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The rate of poverty across the globe is becoming worrisome. Many people are continually crossing below the poverty line to the state of depression. I was heartbroken seeing the number of people struggling to enter the US as  shared by Elon Musk in X. Weather we choose to believe it or not, there is an impending global problem that if concerted effort is not put at addressing, there will be chaos. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?

I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

I'm not sure Bitcoin could solve the world problem but is true that Bitcoin can help some people earn diligently. I have seen some doing good at trading and most exchanges trying their best to assist with different features like bot copy trading. But then, one needs something to do in other to assist themselves financially in the crypto World

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It depends but at the end of the day, bitcoins are just an asset that you could just simply buy low and sell high. You need to have enough knowledge in order to make money from it because you need to learn daily trading if you want to make it your daily job. in other words, it is just simply like any other source of income where you need the basic necessity to make it a money-making platform. But most people are just buying bitcoins and holding them for the long term or until they see the price worth selling their bitcoins. Nothing special here you just need to have enough patience to wait and not to listen to any FUDS whenever there's one.

But this is not easy and not many people can do it. Even professional traders or experts are not sure that they can guarantee daily profits and consider it as the main source of income . So how can you ask poor, uneducated and ignorant people to participate in trading? Actually, everyone likes to trade, likes to make money every day by trading. But people just buy and hold for the long term because they know that trading is not easy and most end up losing money.
     

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It depends but at the end of the day, bitcoins are just an asset that you could just simply buy low and sell high. You need to have enough knowledge in order to make money from it because you need to learn daily trading if you want to make it your daily job. in other words, it is just simply like any other source of income where you need the basic necessity to make it a money-making platform. But most people are just buying bitcoins and holding them for the long term or until they see the price worth selling their bitcoins. Nothing special here you just need to have enough patience to wait and not to listen to any FUDS whenever there's one.

But this is not easy and not many people can do it. Even professional traders or experts are not sure that they can guarantee daily profits and consider it as the main source of income . So how can you ask poor, uneducated and ignorant people to participate in trading? Actually, everyone likes to trade, likes to make money every day by trading. But people just buy and hold for the long term because they know that trading is not easy and most end up losing money.

Yes, it's true, bitcoin trading is an activity full of risks, especially if the capital is small then the results will also be small. One way to trade to make more profits is to trade futures, but this increases the risk tens of times. Carrying out trading activities with the aim of making daily or weekly profits is very difficult and requires a lot of experience

Providing a solution like this to people who don't know about bitcoin increases the risk. I think using trade to help poverty is impossible

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November 02, 2023, 02:20:38 PM
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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

I doubt it. Bitcoin has a limited liquidity while the global poverty is more than the marketcap of Bitcoin. Even the government with unlimited supply fiat failed to address poverty.
I don't really understand what you mean by limited liquidity. If Bitcoin hits mainstream, that will just mean more people will engage in the business of buying and selling with Bitcoin and this will be done hitch-free. That is liquidity. Are you saying that there will be sellers without buyers? How will there be balance of trader? As the use increases, the liquidity will.
This discussion will be very easy to understand if you knew exactly what is poverty and how much budget the government will need just to sustain those people under the poverty to improve their life permanently. You already said that there’s always a balance on buying and selling on trading while your idea needs Bitcoin to continuously go upward just to give profit to everyone. Main question is who will continuously inject liquidity to Bitcoin just to pump the price and distribute to the poor who invest small amount?

That’s what I’m talking limited liquidity since Bitcoin sometimes dump more than half of its marketcap.

Bitcoin investment might help to get you some profit but it’s not sufficient to defeat poverty especially if you are only investing small amount of money on it.
Even though I understand your point, I still believe that anyone who invested in Bitcoin years ago like 2014, even if its $100, that would have yield substantial profits that can make such person cross above the poverty line.

Now we are at a point where Bitcoin is still cheap in such a way that $100 can give nice amount when Bitcoin reaches like $750k that many people are projecting it would.
You are talking about temporarily crossing the poverty line but you forgot to assume the sustainability assuming the pump that you project occur. Yeah poor people can get an extra boost but the main question is if this is sufficient to sustain until the rest of their life? Surely they will just spend it all later and back to their old life.

This is why having a decent job is much better rather than relying on Bitcoin and its insane pump which no one knows when will hit or if it willl really hit.

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The rate of poverty across the globe is becoming worrisome. Many people are continually crossing below the poverty line to the state of depression. I was heartbroken seeing the number of people struggling to enter the US as  shared by Elon Musk in X. Weather we choose to believe it or not, there is an impending global problem that if concerted effort is not put at addressing, there will be chaos. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?
Bitcoin can help some people who want the help and who are able to against all odds still invest enough in bitcoins to get enough profit from it that can change their level in life, but Bitcoin is not a general remedy for poverty because there are many reasons why people are poor. Some people are poor from the choices that they have made aside the harsh economic condition, if this people still invest and continue to make poor economic choices, their investment in bitcoins no matter how big will not be able to help them from poverty.

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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?
1. Do you think that people who are considered poor right now are interested in investing into Bitcoin?
2. Do you think that an asset, or a currency, or whatever you want to call it will change their lives if they will just invest to it?

People are poor because they are lacking of financial literacy. Let's include knowledge, and skills to the mix, but on top of that, now knowing how to handle their money is the reason why the poor remains poor, and vice versa. Now how can you make a poor person who don't even know anything about investing invest into Bitcoin? There might be some poor people out there who will choose to just use that money to buy things to survive on that day than to invest into an asset that they don't even interested in.

Okay let's assume that they invested into Bitcoin (which is highly unlikely), would you think that investing on that alone will change their lives? No. It isn't that easy, and if it's that easy then all of the investors must be rich by now. Investing alone isn't enough. You need to learn how to make good decisions, and do constant research as well.

Yes, Bitcoin offers unique opportunities, but only for those who have the capabilities to use it. It's only for those who has the gadgets in order for them to have access into it, and unfortunately, not all of the poor people don't even have an access to smartphone. They're having a hard time making ends meet. How can they have spare money to use to invest? Bitcoin "MIGHT" solve global poverty, but the question is HOW?

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If we cannot meet our daily needs then it will not be possible for us to think about how to invest. Of course they must first think about their needs. After they can fulfill their needs, of course they will be able to think about what they invest in and of course they must choose the investment that is right for what they want. Without knowledge, of course they will not be able to get a profit from the investment they make, so it is very important for those who want to make an investment to understand how to get it and how to make a profit from the investment they make.
Of course, to invest in bitcoin you must have capital and already have emergency money. If it's not enough for daily needs, it's not a good thing to invest in bitcoin, as existing ones will get poorer.

What this means is that perhaps he is poor in the sense of the word, he can fulfill all his needs and having more money to invest could make his finances better in the future. Because buying bitcoin has many benefits, one of which is that no one can control bitcoin because bitcoin is on the street on blockchain, besides that there are no intermediaries so it can reduce transaction costs. Bitcoin can enable poor people to increase their savings by buying bitcoin.

In essence, Bitcoin is also the currency of the future for everyone. So everyone can invest in bitcoin. It also allows poor people to control their own investments. Because Bitcoin operates outside the government system. That way it can also protect poor people in countries where bad monetary policy causes inflation and other problems. So investing in Bitcoin can help poor people significantly.
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The rate of poverty across the globe is becoming worrisome. Many people are continually crossing below the poverty line to the state of depression. I was heartbroken seeing the number of people struggling to enter the US as  shared by Elon Musk in X. Weather we choose to believe it or not, there is an impending global problem that if concerted effort is not put at addressing, there will be chaos. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?

I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

It is true that anyone can buy Bitcoin for any amount that anyone who is interested in it can afford. This means that Bitcoin does not care whether you are rich or poor; as long as you can afford it, you can really have it.

Now, whatever the problem of the country or the people, I also believe that there are many solutions that we can use, and Bitcoin is only one of the solutions, which only means that there is also another alternative that is another solution to our problem.

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November 02, 2023, 03:46:02 PM
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I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?
It's not true and almost many people know that bitcoin is not only intended for rich people. Everyone can take the smallest amount to start investing because if done consistently, over time it will provide great value. The only people who don't want to get involved in bitcoin because of the risk of price volatility so they decide to think long and hard about getting involved. If they understand how, maybe this won't be a big problem because there is always a cycle that makes prices rise and fall according to the period in which they travel.

Bitcoin will never reduce poverty rates globally because involvement in it is more individual and there are many people who are still not interested in investing in bitcoin at this time. I only understand one thing about the advantages offered by bitcoin, namely financial freedom at a stage that we can manage independently and adjust the capital we have.

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November 02, 2023, 03:49:43 PM
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I saw so many forum users talking about using bitcoin for trade to generate profit for investors. The point of correction, Bitcoin investment is not for those who would go back in a few days to sell their coin, it is for those who know the value of the coin. They are investing in the volatility of Bitcoin. It is indeed a serious demerit for traders, especially for those poor people who would take investment as their source of income because the price doesn't just rise, there are times where the price just tends to move sideways or in a bearish movement, so for those who depend only on investment for survival, Bitcoin is not the coin for you!!

From the topic: Can Bitcoin help? My answer is YES. There are other ways Bitcoin can help, not just for trading purposes alone. El Salvador is the first country to accept Bitcoin as a legal tender, its economy is doing well as Bitcoin itself has driven so many people to go for touring, so they can experience a condition where Bitcoin is not restricted or banned.
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not that easy. bitcoin is not a solution to overcome poverty in the world. if you think that if poor people can invest in bitcoin it will help them, that's a big mistake. because what makes a person poor is not only financial factors, but intelligence, analysis, etc. if you introduce bitcoin to poor people, they will go away thinking that it is much better to earn food today compared to investing.

even when you give them money, give them enough knowledge about bitcoin and tell them to invest in bitcoin, they might buy it but they will immediately lose it, either because they sold the bitcoin to eat or they lost access to their wallet because of their carelessness.

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the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Even though we advise people to invest in bitcoin, we can’t force it, and since you are also aware of how people are suffering from poverty across the globe, now you see we don’t have to say something like this to those people; however, people are finding a way to eat daily food. Do you think they will have time for investment not only in bitcoin but even in physical investments that they are aware of? However, this $10 you are saying they should at least invest in bitcoin is some people's weekly earnings, while others get this amount daily. This kind of person is obviously suffering, and I don't think they even need a bitcoin investment since it’s not a short-term investment.

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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

I don't think even with the investment, global poverty will decrease. The reason for this is that bitcoin investment is a long-term investment, and you want people who suffer from poverty to be among those who will  invest in bitcoin, Do you think even 1% of these people will have funds to invest? Nah, mate, so I don't believe bitcoin investments will be able to defeat global poverty. The only people who will be able to do so are governments, and they have also failed to do so.

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November 02, 2023, 04:58:54 PM
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The rate of poverty across the globe is becoming worrisome. Many people are continually crossing below the poverty line to the state of depression. I was heartbroken seeing the number of people struggling to enter the US as  shared by Elon Musk in X. Weather we choose to believe it or not, there is an impending global problem that if concerted effort is not put at addressing, there will be chaos. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?

I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

I think it's not as simple as that. Buying bitcoin as an investment is a good thing but it shouldn't be the only investment in our portfolio.
Whether it be rich or poor, everyone should diversify their portfolio to balance the risks.
Bitcoin is a volatile asset and it can be one of the aggressive risk asset in our portfolio.
It can surely help us from preventing being poort but we should be aware of the risks.

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November 02, 2023, 05:42:52 PM
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Previously it was hard to give education to the people about bitcoin because most of them were not ready to hear but now everyone is aware of Bitcoin's success and no one can denied it. For poor people bitcoin investment is actually difficult because they have minimum amount of money if they spend it on bitcoin then they will be unable to carry out daily expenses. Bitcoin is not as cheap as everyone can buy it even everyone better know that bitcoin can bring a happy life for poor people. Poverty is increasing because people focus much on government job and they don't believe about the success of online assets therefore if they value investment process then they can get rid of poverty.

Bitcoin is for those who want an extra money by using their own money and without investing a good amount bitcoin cannot give you profit. Those individuals who have income can save some amount for bitcoin investment but without earning you cannot invest money because time requires for achievement and if you need money for urgent work then you cannot invest that amount in Bitcoin or other currency.

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The rate of poverty across the globe is becoming worrisome. Many people are continually crossing below the poverty line to the state of depression. I was heartbroken seeing the number of people struggling to enter the US as  shared by Elon Musk in X. Weather we choose to believe it or not, there is an impending global problem that if concerted effort is not put at addressing, there will be chaos. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?

I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?
op The thought you made about the poverty line would actually be much better if it could be solved with Bitcoin. One thing we all need to understand is Bitcoin Rich and Poor we all can trade Bitcoin. Those who trade more bitcoins will get higher profits. And those who have little and short-term bitcoin capital cannot make much profit. Bitcoin is a long term work Bitcoin requires us to trade over time. If it were true that there are so many poor people that their problems could be solved through Bitcoin, that would be great, but in real life, it won't happen.

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In one way or the other, Bitcoin has impacted some useful things in some countries today. I will have to conclude that any country that is not getting better in finances is that those countries are not permitting Bitcoin in their country.
Bitcoin has given a lot of people an opportunity to achieve what they want to achieve in the future, but anyone who doesn't take advantage of Bitcoin by clicking the buy button, then it will be very hard for such a person to get it right in other investments too.

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In one way or the other, Bitcoin has impacted some useful things in some countries today. I will have to conclude that any country that is not getting better in finances is that those countries are not permitting Bitcoin in their country.
Bitcoin has given a lot of people an opportunity to achieve what they want to achieve in the future, but anyone who doesn't take advantage of Bitcoin by clicking the buy button, then it will be very hard for such a person to get it right in other investments too.

Can you name some countries that have adopted bitcoin and received benefits from it and their economies are growing? China is a country that bans bitcoin and what explanation do you have for this when China is still the 2nd largest economic power in the world without bitcoin?

Bitcoin has been bringing a lot of opportunities to many individuals and organizations, but talking about its impact on a country's economy is a bit exaggerated. Bitcoin has not yet been able to achieve those achievements and we need more time instead of exaggerating the things that are wrong about bitcoin. That doesn't make bitcoin any better.

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In one way or the other, Bitcoin has impacted some useful things in some countries today. I will have to conclude that any country that is not getting better in finances is that those countries are not permitting Bitcoin in their country.
Bitcoin has given a lot of people an opportunity to achieve what they want to achieve in the future, but anyone who doesn't take advantage of Bitcoin by clicking the buy button, then it will be very hard for such a person to get it right in other investments too.

I don't think Bitcoin has anything to do with any country financial problems. If a country finances are not good, it may be due to internal failure and incompetence of the government, Bitcoin does not seem to play a role in this. In my opinion Bitcoin has helped to facilitate rather than influence things. If I need to send money to someone, instead of going to the bank, I can easily pay with Bitcoin.

Bitcoin still has a lot of potential to gain in the future. It is very important to have capital to click the button to buy Bitcoin. People who have capital don't hesitate to click the buy button for Bitcoin. There are still many people who cannot invest in Bitcoin due to lack of capital, because given the current price of Bitcoin, it is not difficult to imagine that it requires a large capital. We all wish we had Bitcoin but it is difficult when we lack capital.


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The rate of poverty across the globe is becoming worrisome. Many people are continually crossing below the poverty line to the state of depression. I was heartbroken seeing the number of people struggling to enter the US as  shared by Elon Musk in X. Weather we choose to believe it or not, there is an impending global problem that if concerted effort is not put at addressing, there will be chaos. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?

I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

I think it's not as simple as that. Buying bitcoin as an investment is a good thing but it shouldn't be the only investment in our portfolio.
Whether it be rich or poor, everyone should diversify their portfolio to balance the risks.
Bitcoin is a volatile asset and it can be one of the aggressive risk asset in our portfolio.
It can surely help us from preventing being poort but we should be aware of the risks.

I think for poor people, they do not need to diversify their investment portfolio but should only focus on bitcoin. If someone is poor but has enough money to invest and that is the amount of money they can lose, they should accept risks to be able to achieve greater success, creating a turning point in life. Instead of being careful little by little and making poverty last longer.

Rich people are also people who step out of their comfort zone to do things that others don't dare to do and achieve things that others don't have. Success requires trade-offs. And the bitcoin opportunity is a rare opportunity and not many such opportunities will come our way, if we don't take full advantage of that, it will be a bigger pity.

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November 03, 2023, 07:15:11 AM
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In one way or the other, Bitcoin has impacted some useful things in some countries today. I will have to conclude that any country that is not getting better in finances is that those countries are not permitting Bitcoin in their country.
Bitcoin has given a lot of people an opportunity to achieve what they want to achieve in the future, but anyone who doesn't take advantage of Bitcoin by clicking the buy button, then it will be very hard for such a person to get it right in other investments too.
You are over exaggerating, what are some countries bitcoin is impacting positively? Can you name some countries and some of the impacts bitcoin has had on them?  We don't need to talk about such unnecessary hype about bitcoin, bitcoin cannot help any country escape poverty or reduce poverty rate like the OP is mentioning.  Bitcoin is just a financial tool and it is bringing positive benefits to many people but not all, there are still some people who lose money when investing in bitcoin.

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November 03, 2023, 08:13:53 AM
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The rate of poverty across the globe is becoming worrisome. Many people are continually crossing below the poverty line to the state of depression. I was heartbroken seeing the number of people struggling to enter the US as  shared by Elon Musk in X. Weather we choose to believe it or not, there is an impending global problem that if concerted effort is not put at addressing, there will be chaos. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?

I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

I think it's not as simple as that. Buying bitcoin as an investment is a good thing but it shouldn't be the only investment in our portfolio.
Whether it be rich or poor, everyone should diversify their portfolio to balance the risks.
Bitcoin is a volatile asset and it can be one of the aggressive risk asset in our portfolio.
It can surely help us from preventing being poort but we should be aware of the risks.

I think for poor people, they do not need to diversify their investment portfolio but should only focus on bitcoin. If someone is poor but has enough money to invest and that is the amount of money they can lose, they should accept risks to be able to achieve greater success, creating a turning point in life. Instead of being careful little by little and making poverty last longer.

Rich people are also people who step out of their comfort zone to do things that others don't dare to do and achieve things that others don't have. Success requires trade-offs. And the bitcoin opportunity is a rare opportunity and not many such opportunities will come our way, if we don't take full advantage of that, it will be a bigger pity.
Yes, it is a brave idea to suggest that the impoverished should invest all of their meager resources in a single asset like Bitcoin. Theres a case to be made for the fact that cryptocurrency volatility can result in substantial profits and materially improve one's financial situation. But the opposite is also likely, as there is a chance that the risk will exacerbate their financial conflict. Should we not consider whether this approach could exacerbate the poverty cycle instead of breaking it?

Clearly, a lot of wealthy people have raised their socioeconomic level by taking calculated risks. The widespread belief that Bitcoin represents a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity should be questioned, as not everyone will experience this. Making financial decisions requires careful consideration of their wider ramifications and possible outcomes, particularly when there is significant risk involved.

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November 03, 2023, 08:39:48 AM
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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?
The basic thing that must be done before starting to invest is that you must first meet all your main needs, so as not to sell your investment which has not yet provided a profit because of urgent matters which can even make you lose money by selling at a loss, but unfortunately it will be difficult for poor people to start investing, because their minds are already filled with how to survive by earning money so that their main needs can be met, even when working over normal hours, sometimes they cannot meet these needs. Bitcoin will not be able to help poor people and Bitcoin is not a savior that must always be connected to world events and considered as a solution to existing problems.

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November 03, 2023, 01:40:06 PM
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It depends but at the end of the day, bitcoins are just an asset that you could just simply buy low and sell high. You need to have enough knowledge in order to make money from it because you need to learn daily trading if you want to make it your daily job. in other words, it is just simply like any other source of income where you need the basic necessity to make it a money-making platform. But most people are just buying bitcoins and holding them for the long term or until they see the price worth selling their bitcoins. Nothing special here you just need to have enough patience to wait and not to listen to any FUDS whenever there's one.

But this is not easy and not many people can do it. Even professional traders or experts are not sure that they can guarantee daily profits and consider it as the main source of income . So how can you ask poor, uneducated and ignorant people to participate in trading? Actually, everyone likes to trade, likes to make money every day by trading. But people just buy and hold for the long term because they know that trading is not easy and most end up losing money.

Yes, it's true, bitcoin trading is an activity full of risks, especially if the capital is small then the results will also be small. One way to trade to make more profits is to trade futures, but this increases the risk tens of times. Carrying out trading activities with the aim of making daily or weekly profits is very difficult and requires a lot of experience

Providing a solution like this to people who don't know about bitcoin increases the risk. I think using trade to help poverty is impossible

For me, futures trading is no different than gambling and experienced people should stay away from it, let alone newbies or people with little capital. Furthermore, not only trading bitcoin, I think investing in bitcoin cannot help the poor. Because to be able to invest in bitcoin, they need money, and how do poor people get the money they can lose to invest? In short, bitcoin cannot help anyone escape or alleviate poverty.

To eradicate hunger and reduce poverty, the government needs to create jobs for everyone, people need to try harder to work, and cannot rely on risky investments like bitcoin.

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November 03, 2023, 02:18:30 PM
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No one but me can tell you how much Bitcoin has supported me. Bitcoin has supported me in education as well as most of my personal expenses. Moreover, Bitcoin is a virtual currency where anyone who takes it as a part of his career will definitely get support in one way or another. Many unemployed youths have built their valuable careers depending on Bitcoin. Many countries have launched educational programs on Bitcoin and are making a certain portion of their human resources proficient in Bitcoin.

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November 03, 2023, 02:33:54 PM
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The rate of poverty across the globe is becoming worrisome. Many people are continually crossing below the poverty line to the state of depression. I was heartbroken seeing the number of people struggling to enter the US as  shared by Elon Musk in X. Weather we choose to believe it or not, there is an impending global problem that if concerted effort is not put at addressing, there will be chaos. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?

I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

I think it's not as simple as that. Buying bitcoin as an investment is a good thing but it shouldn't be the only investment in our portfolio.
Whether it be rich or poor, everyone should diversify their portfolio to balance the risks.
Bitcoin is a volatile asset and it can be one of the aggressive risk asset in our portfolio.
It can surely help us from preventing being poort but we should be aware of the risks.

I think for poor people, they do not need to diversify their investment portfolio but should only focus on bitcoin. If someone is poor but has enough money to invest and that is the amount of money they can lose, they should accept risks to be able to achieve greater success, creating a turning point in life. Instead of being careful little by little and making poverty last longer.

Rich people are also people who step out of their comfort zone to do things that others don't dare to do and achieve things that others don't have. Success requires trade-offs. And the bitcoin opportunity is a rare opportunity and not many such opportunities will come our way, if we don't take full advantage of that, it will be a bigger pity.

If a poor person has $5000 to invest, would you advice him to invest all of it in bitcoin ?
I would certainly not because tomorrow if the market crashses then his $5000 can become $2500.
The poor person would panic a lot and can take certain steps which he shouldn't.
I know the opposite can happen too but generally the amount of happiness is less when compared to panic and stress.

If he diversifies his investment in 2-3 assets then the risk would become balanced.
The profits might get decreased but steady growth should be the actual goal.

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In one way or the other, Bitcoin has impacted some useful things in some countries today. I will have to conclude that any country that is not getting better in finances is that those countries are not permitting Bitcoin in their country.
I don't think it's that far bro. The country's finances are not improving, there is nothing to do with it because they don't allow bitcoin, the country's finances are not good because of something that is happening both within the country and abroad. or because the government cannot properly regulate and empower natural resources and human resources and many individuals in the government are busy seeking personal gain, aka corruption.

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Bitcoin has given a lot of people an opportunity to achieve what they want to achieve in the future, but anyone who doesn't take advantage of Bitcoin by clicking the buy button, then it will be very hard for such a person to get it right in other investments too.
Bitcoin is open to everyone to have the opportunity to gain profits in the future, of course this requires good knowledge so that we buy bitcoin correctly. and hold it as a long-term asset.

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The rate of poverty across the globe is becoming worrisome. Many people are continually crossing below the poverty line to the state of depression. I was heartbroken seeing the number of people struggling to enter the US as  shared by Elon Musk in X. Weather we choose to believe it or not, there is an impending global problem that if concerted effort is not put at addressing, there will be chaos. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?

I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

Bitcoin is indeed an improved currency which offers unique opportunities even for those people who have nothing except an internet connection. But as far as how much it can help them... That remains to be seen. I am sure there are wonderful ways which we have yet to discover, to help the less fortunate. Faucets used to be quite a help but with the Bitcoin fees as they are nowadays, it might not be seen as very viable. But in countries where each cent is important, even faucets might help, given a long enough time collecting miniscule amounts.

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November 04, 2023, 10:36:43 AM
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The rate of poverty across the globe is becoming worrisome. Many people are continually crossing below the poverty line to the state of depression. I was heartbroken seeing the number of people struggling to enter the US as  shared by Elon Musk in X. Weather we choose to believe it or not, there is an impending global problem that if concerted effort is not put at addressing, there will be chaos. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?

I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

I think it's not as simple as that. Buying bitcoin as an investment is a good thing but it shouldn't be the only investment in our portfolio.
Whether it be rich or poor, everyone should diversify their portfolio to balance the risks.
Bitcoin is a volatile asset and it can be one of the aggressive risk asset in our portfolio.
It can surely help us from preventing being poort but we should be aware of the risks.

I think for poor people, they do not need to diversify their investment portfolio but should only focus on bitcoin. If someone is poor but has enough money to invest and that is the amount of money they can lose, they should accept risks to be able to achieve greater success, creating a turning point in life. Instead of being careful little by little and making poverty last longer.

Rich people are also people who step out of their comfort zone to do things that others don't dare to do and achieve things that others don't have. Success requires trade-offs. And the bitcoin opportunity is a rare opportunity and not many such opportunities will come our way, if we don't take full advantage of that, it will be a bigger pity.
Yes, it is a brave idea to suggest that the impoverished should invest all of their meager resources in a single asset like Bitcoin. Theres a case to be made for the fact that cryptocurrency volatility can result in substantial profits and materially improve one's financial situation. But the opposite is also likely, as there is a chance that the risk will exacerbate their financial conflict. Should we not consider whether this approach could exacerbate the poverty cycle instead of breaking it?

Clearly, a lot of wealthy people have raised their socioeconomic level by taking calculated risks. The widespread belief that Bitcoin represents a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity should be questioned, as not everyone will experience this. Making financial decisions requires careful consideration of their wider ramifications and possible outcomes, particularly when there is significant risk involved.

That's why I say, they need to use the money they can afford to lose, and like I said to be successful, we need to take risks out and out of our comfort zone. We should not think too much, do not let fear delay our plans.

If we are always afraid and want to be safe, success and wealth will come more slowly, maybe even never come. Opportunities are always hidden behind risks and we need to accept risks to be able to find our opportunities. As for me, I am willing to trade to seize this unique opportunity. If we ignore bitcoin out of fear, do you think another opportunity will come our way?

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November 04, 2023, 11:00:13 AM
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In one way or the other, Bitcoin has impacted some useful things in some countries today. I will have to conclude that any country that is not getting better in finances is that those countries are not permitting Bitcoin in their country.
Bitcoin has given a lot of people an opportunity to achieve what they want to achieve in the future, but anyone who doesn't take advantage of Bitcoin by clicking the buy button, then it will be very hard for such a person to get it right in other investments too.
The impact if Bitcoin is huge and we can not underestimate that. Many of the crypto billionaires that we see today are people that had benefited from the market from the time when the price of Bitcoin was very low. The rich or the poor can always invest in Bitcoin and make reasonable profits from the market if they can buy at a very low price an wait for when the price of Bitcoin would skyrocket. Patience is what matters in the market for us to make a lot of money. Bitcoin is still in the bear market currently and holding and accumulating more positions would benefits us a lot making good profits from the market.

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No one but me can tell you how much Bitcoin has supported me. Bitcoin has supported me in education as well as most of my personal expenses. Moreover, Bitcoin is a virtual currency where anyone who takes it as a part of his career will definitely get support in one way or another. Many unemployed youths have built their valuable careers depending on Bitcoin. Many countries have launched educational programs on Bitcoin and are making a certain portion of their human resources proficient in Bitcoin.
Well, it's a common sense that how your story would be told would only be told by you since you're the one who has experienced it right? Outside testimonies would be biased even in the worst way it's going to be told. I can agree with what happened to you, I think that most if not all users in the forum have the same benefits from bitcoin with bitcoin being a crutch for their daily expenses if not outright supporting them financially. I'm worried about your statement about youths being dependent on bitcoin too much in building their careers because I feel like if that's the case then when they there's a problem that involves bitcoin, what are they going to do then?

Can you name any countries that officially launched educational programs that involves being informed in bitcoin and it's technology because I don't think that it's true. If it was true then there's more people that's talking about bitcoin than what's going on right now.
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November 04, 2023, 03:03:13 PM
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I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?
Well, not trying to sound pessimistic but turn around and think deeply about this which you have said...

This are people who are poor, and being poor means that they probably don't know when or where their next meal will be coming from, and yet you expect them to invest in bitcoin, where will the money to invest in bitcoin come from? OK, even if you gave them $10 to buy bitcoin, they probably will use half of that money to buy food first, then later invest the remaining half in bitcoin, which they may also turn around to sell tomorrow so as to buy food again.

Understand that, bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme, I don't see anyways simply buying and holding bitcoin will help the poor, except the poor that have something doing, like a business or a job, something that can help them invest in bitcoin, and then look away from that investment until it yield good profit for them.

Anything outside of this, I don't see or know how bitcoin can help.

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Bitcoin offers the possibility of being paid for online jobs without bureaucracy and expensive costs of transactions through its decentralized blockchain and nature. However, without jobs, there isn't Bitcoin, as it's just a currency, a mean of payment people receive for their effort, deeds and skills. We can't expect to solve the poverty problem in the world by sharing free money with everyone. People still have to develop a career, to become proficient in something they can assist the society and then be paid for that.
Good thing that it's only a possibility because if you've worked in payroll department before then you know that it's going to be a headache to deal when one of the employees don't want to follow the same payment scheme compared to the other employees. Regards to bureaucracy, even if you get paid in bitcoin, depending on your country, you might still have to make sure that you're earnings paid in bitcoin will be included in your taxes.
I think that most if not all users in the forum have the same benefits from bitcoin with bitcoin being a crutch for their daily expenses if not outright supporting them financially. I'm worried about your statement about youths being dependent on bitcoin too much in building their careers because I feel like if that's the case then when they there's a problem that involves bitcoin, what are they going to do then?
There are others although I feel rare might be changed not because bitcoin helped them financially speaking but they're enamored by the concept of bitcoin and being free from the oppressive and archaic banking system and that they don't care much about the value of bitcoin in terms of money but more like the concept of it, I mean Vitalik could probably be a good example of a person that bitcoin has helped in terms of building new concepts.



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November 04, 2023, 04:40:52 PM
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Bitcoin's technology generally has no limitations that can help tackle world poverty. Governments can help by taking necessary steps, following appropriate administrative policies and creating opportunities for people. Bitcoin is a decentralized cryptocurrency, which fundamentally operates outside of government control. Using this technology can provide the necessary education to improve the country's economy. If governments are creative with faith, this technology can be used to reduce inflation, create new enterprises and provide education opportunities to citizens. It can help create a healthy and socially developed environment that can influence the country's economy.

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November 04, 2023, 05:13:25 PM
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The rate of poverty across the globe is becoming worrisome. Many people are continually crossing below the poverty line to the state of depression. I was heartbroken seeing the number of people struggling to enter the US as  shared by Elon Musk in X. Weather we choose to believe it or not, there is an impending global problem that if concerted effort is not put at addressing, there will be chaos. Is there anyway Bitcoin can assist in addressing this?

I know many will think investment in Bitcoin is reserved exclusively for the rich or those who are comfortable; the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

If bitcoin's role is only to be a store of value like gold then it will not be able to assist the poor anyway. It already has a limited supply and if most of its supply is stored in a non custodial wallet by few percent of the world population then how will other people take part in it? Bitcoin needs to keep circulating in the market with local businesses so that it becomes a medium of value transfer. It doesn't matter if it needs to be bitcoin it can be something else and what i think is that bitcoin shows us a pathway of how it can be done where peoples financial freedom will be in their hand not controlled by few banks or asset managers.









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November 04, 2023, 10:13:06 PM
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If bitcoin's role is only to be a store of value like gold then it will not be able to assist the poor anyway. It already has a limited supply and if most of its supply is stored in a non custodial wallet by few percent of the world population then how will other people take part in it? Bitcoin needs to keep circulating in the market with local businesses so that it becomes a medium of value transfer. It doesn't matter if it needs to be bitcoin it can be something else and what i think is that bitcoin shows us a pathway of how it can be done where peoples financial freedom will be in their hand not controlled by few banks or asset managers.

Yes, mate, there is a lot of money in this world. What I mean is that in our individual countries, we have different local currencies and a huge supply of them compared to the Bitcoin supply, but yet there are still poor people. The question is, why has the money not been able to help them? We work to earn money, and we earn money to invest in Bitcoin depending on our choice, so if one invests in Bitcoin, the reward is profit generation in due season, but if someone doesn't invest in Bitcoin, they cannot depend on it to get profit. So, what I think is that Bitcoin can help those who invest in it make a profit.

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November 04, 2023, 11:50:27 PM
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If bitcoin's role is only to be a store of value like gold then it will not be able to assist the poor anyway. It already has a limited supply and if most of its supply is stored in a non custodial wallet by few percent of the world population then how will other people take part in it? Bitcoin needs to keep circulating in the market with local businesses so that it becomes a medium of value transfer. It doesn't matter if it needs to be bitcoin it can be something else and what i think is that bitcoin shows us a pathway of how it can be done where peoples financial freedom will be in their hand not controlled by few banks or asset managers.

Yes, mate, there is a lot of money in this world. What I mean is that in our individual countries, we have different local currencies and a huge supply of them compared to the Bitcoin supply, but yet there are still poor people. The question is, why has the money not been able to help them? We work to earn money, and we earn money to invest in Bitcoin depending on our choice, so if one invests in Bitcoin, the reward is profit generation in due season, but if someone doesn't invest in Bitcoin, they cannot depend on it to get profit. So, what I think is that Bitcoin can help those who invest in it make a profit.

We can't expect all people to invest in bitcoin because up until now, the population who are into btc or crypto is still small as compared to world population.
Also, they have other investment options that they are looking at like stocks, real-estate, precious metals and other tangible assets.
So we can't speak for the most of these people when it comes to their preference of investments.
But for those who are already bitcoin holders, for sure, they will find it favorable later on once they are seeing the price is steadily increasing.
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Bitcoin has helped loads of processess and protocols most especially in the financial space in the area of cross border transactions.

Many challenges associated with cross border financing has been reduced to the barest and almost not considered a challenge except for institutions that are yet to adopt the technology for reasons of regulations and policies.

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Even though bitcoin is one of the sources that can be for investment or help in your life again not all the people are capable with it.

...the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

Even though they want to get up with this poverty and would like to join into an investment i guess at the end of the day they will cater to their needs than making an investment, currently, the expenses right now is higher due to inflation too, only people who have got enough with their salary or money can make try this suggestion. But after that, only few of them will choose to have a food on their table.

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November 05, 2023, 03:45:01 AM
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Even though bitcoin is one of the sources that can be for investment or help in your life again not all the people are capable with it.

Bitcoin is just an investment, it is not free and there are potential risks where it can harm us. Not everyone makes money investing in it, there are winners and losers, so I cannot agree that bitcoin can help alleviate poverty.

...the lower class can actually buy as little as $10 per week. Majority of these immigrants are farmers that the quest for greener pastures pushed into these journeys.  They can actually start small and build from there. Same goes for many people across the globe.

Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

Even though they want to get up with this poverty and would like to join into an investment i guess at the end of the day they will cater to their needs than making an investment, currently, the expenses right now is higher due to inflation too, only people who have got enough with their salary or money can make try this suggestion. But after that, only few of them will choose to have a food on their table.

I think daily needs should still be prioritized over investment. If we live alone, we can save as much as possible and work hard to save money to invest, but if we have a family and children, we should not invest when the children are still hungry. Investing is important but there are things that need to be given top priority and that is also one of the many reasons why poor people still cannot invest in bitcoin.

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November 05, 2023, 04:42:25 AM
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Bitcoin can certainly be a good investment through which an investor can greatly improve his financial situation. But is it possible for everyone to collect bitcoins? Whereas on average most people are now living below the poverty line. Especially people in countries with high poverty rates should not invest in Bitcoin. The first thing that needs to be emphasized here is to create employment for them. If they can earn money then they can deposit a certain amount of money in Bitcoin and gradually turn it into a large asset. I think Bitcoin is like a vehicle to realize your unexpected goals, but to get to that point you have to complete your initial stage that means collecting funds.
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November 05, 2023, 11:06:44 AM
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If bitcoin's role is only to be a store of value like gold then it will not be able to assist the poor anyway. It already has a limited supply and if most of its supply is stored in a non custodial wallet by few percent of the world population then how will other people take part in it? Bitcoin needs to keep circulating in the market with local businesses so that it becomes a medium of value transfer. It doesn't matter if it needs to be bitcoin it can be something else and what i think is that bitcoin shows us a pathway of how it can be done where peoples financial freedom will be in their hand not controlled by few banks or asset managers.

Yes, mate, there is a lot of money in this world. What I mean is that in our individual countries, we have different local currencies and a huge supply of them compared to the Bitcoin supply, but yet there are still poor people. The question is, why has the money not been able to help them? We work to earn money, and we earn money to invest in Bitcoin depending on our choice, so if one invests in Bitcoin, the reward is profit generation in due season, but if someone doesn't invest in Bitcoin, they cannot depend on it to get profit. So, what I think is that Bitcoin can help those who invest in it make a profit.

We can't expect all people to invest in bitcoin because up until now, the population who are into btc or crypto is still small as compared to world population.
Also, they have other investment options that they are looking at like stocks, real-estate, precious metals and other tangible assets.
So we can't speak for the most of these people when it comes to their preference of investments.
But for those who are already bitcoin holders, for sure, they will find it favorable later on once they are seeing the price is steadily increasing.

We have more than 700B people and even if 300B of them start using bitcoin network do you think all of them will be able to accumulate enough bitcoin for them when big institutions are accumulating bitcoin which is not going to get out of their wallet very soon? That means those coins will stay out of the circulating supply for a long time which increases scarcity more than ever.









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November 05, 2023, 02:36:05 PM
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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

I am not sure if Bitcoin alone is going to solve the global poverty problem, it might be too much pressure on one single asset class. Don't get me wrong, Bitcoin is a great investment and everybody should add some to their portfolio. But what kind of return do you need to get millions of people out of poverty? I think it's too much to ask of bitcoin and could lead to disappoint if the expected returns are not delivered. The main problem for poorer people is that they don't have any money to start investing in the first place. One single purchase of bitcoin for 100 USD is not going to be enough to make people rich. This requires a constant form of saving and many people struggle to keep it up. In my opinion it would be best to try and educate people first on how to save money consistently. There are two ways to get more money, either by getting a raise and increase our monthly income, or by cutting back expenses. Trying to reduce unnecessary expenditures is a good way to have more money to invest each month. The second step is than to find a good asset to save money in. Bitcoin is definitely a good idea, but I would also consider spreading the money out into other assets to reduce the risk of our portfolio.
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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make a decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?
As much as I believe that investing in Bitcoin is a right step in the right direction, I still think we shouldn't hype it that much so someone doesn't misunderstand the whole thing and invest all his funds in it with the hope of getting huge return within a twinkle I am eye.

Bitcoin isn't a get-rich-quick scheme and if you can't start up a main hustle while you invest in a fraction of your reserved funds into Bitcoin and you want to focus all your life hoping that the price of bitcoin will go high and live all your life with that hope, you might get frustrated.

The best way to invest in bitcoin is to dedicate a particular amount and buy a reasonable amount of bitcoin with it, hodl it and continue with your normal hustle so that way you don't get easily moved by any fluctuation of any sort.

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Bitcoin offers unique opportunities for people who want to make decent amount of money and I have the feeling that if these people start investing in Bitcoin, we will see a rapid decline in global poverty.  What do you think?

I am not sure if Bitcoin alone is going to solve the global poverty problem, it might be too much pressure on one single asset class. Don't get me wrong, Bitcoin is a great investment and everybody should add some to their portfolio. But what kind of return do you need to get millions of people out of poverty? I think it's too much to ask of bitcoin and could lead to disappoint if the expected returns are not delivered. The main problem for poorer people is that they don't have any money to start investing in the first place. One single purchase of bitcoin for 100 USD is not going to be enough to make people rich. This requires a constant form of saving and many people struggle to keep it up. In my opinion it would be best to try and educate people first on how to save money consistently. There are two ways to get more money, either by getting a raise and increase our monthly income, or by cutting back expenses. Trying to reduce unnecessary expenditures is a good way to have more money to invest each month. The second step is than to find a good asset to save money in. Bitcoin is definitely a good idea, but I would also consider spreading the money out into other assets to reduce the risk of our portfolio.
In short, it impossible to get rid of the global poverty, even a decline won't happen. For me, bitcoin is treated as an asset and it takes some money for you to acquire it. The families that can be treated as poor or inside the poverty line won't prioritizing spending on such asset like bitcoin, their first priority is the necessities that can help them survive their daily lives. Another factor why bitcoin isn't the solution for global poverty is the education that the poor receives. Imagine, majority of the poor don't have financial literature, what more about bitcoin or over all cryptocurrency?
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November 05, 2023, 04:11:53 PM
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Bitcoin can help but, we need to have have the idea in other work with the system, note, bitcoin is not a do or die setting, it not quick money stuff, you have to know that you won't get you returns once you invest, it is a gradual process and it has procedures.
Investor should desist from the idea of putting all their investment in Bitcoin because of it volatile nature, you are not sure of the market, it is not advisable and such risk shouldn't be encouraged.
Talking about the decline in the global poverty with the help of bitcoin investment, this will only work if the investors make good profit, then use the money to create a little business that can employment few persons, if not I don't see this happening as is been said, this is my view.

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Especially people in countries with high poverty rates should not invest in Bitcoin

Still, in those countries, there are rich people who are investing in Bitcoin, as well as some poor people who are investing in Bitcoin too. Saying that poor people don't need to invest in Bitcoin doesn't make much sense. Normally, those who don't have the capital to invest in Bitcoin can find a job or business that they can earn from to invest in Bitcoin. Some people too might be poor, but yet they always have enough money to feed three square meals a day. Yeah, it's a fact. Bitcoin can help those who invest in it, and to invest in Bitcoin and hold it, the individual needs determination and discipline.

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November 05, 2023, 09:03:12 PM
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Bitcoin as well as any type of things that are to earn money helps anyone to improve their life, but we must realize that poverty when it is mental, even if you have a lot of money, the person will not be able to make a fortune because He cannot nor does he know how to maintain it, what he will know how to do is spend and spend money without investment and without multiplying his money, that is what must be avoided, a person with money what he will do is spend and the money runs out and he will not be able to regenerate if one does not work, so mental poverty must end whenever the person wants to do so and that is achieved with knowledge.

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  Bitcoin is really helpful if you use your money to buy it so you can have it. Like, literally speaking, it won't help if you don't have it; that's the logic there. Even if we say that you have extensive knowledge of Bitcoin, if you don't have any holdings in it, your knowledge of it is irrelevant.

  That's why the others here, even if they don't know yet, are already investing in Bitcoin while they are learning about this too. Because they can keep up with the truth. And Bitcoin has helped a lot in various ways, as long as you have it in your account wallet balance, of course.

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Especially people in countries with high poverty rates should not invest in Bitcoin

Still, in those countries, there are rich people who are investing in Bitcoin, as well as some poor people who are investing in Bitcoin too. Saying that poor people don't need to invest in Bitcoin doesn't make much sense. Normally, those who don't have the capital to invest in Bitcoin can find a job or business that they can earn from to invest in Bitcoin. Some people too might be poor, but yet they always have enough money to feed three square meals a day. Yeah, it's a fact. Bitcoin can help those who invest in it, and to invest in Bitcoin and hold it, the individual needs determination and discipline.

I also disagree with this statement, poor people should invest more in bitcoin if they want to escape poverty because this is their opportunity. If the poor ignore bitcoin and this opportunity, it will be very difficult for them to find a second chance and their life of poverty will be longer. But before investing, they need to consider their circumstances. They need to ensure their daily needs before thinking about investing in bitcoin. In case they are too poor, they need to work harder and save more to invest in bitcoin because as I said, it is a rare opportunity for them and should not be missed.

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