Signature campaign as a creation of bitcointalk

[freedomgo]

It is not an invention of Bitcointalk.

I don't know who your manager is, but I hope he doesn't pay you to write posts on page 1 without reading the comments.

Chill dude, the guy isn't even wear a signature

Freedomgo doesn't wear a signature? I think I'll edit the last sentence to make it clear amidst all the quotes. Although I think it was pretty clear from the context, if you read it carefully. First I tell Freedomgo that he hasn't read the comments, then I put the comments he hasn't read and finally I tell him that I hope his manager doesn't pay him to write without even reading the comments on the first page.

Sorry about that, I was just under the expectation that OP himself knows what he was saying below.

Do you know that Signature Campaign is an invention of bitcointalk.org?
I didn't know before now. I had thought that signature campaign is something that has been in practice even before creating the bitcointalk forum.

I might have rushed to share my opinion because I thought it was true. It seems that the OP might be spreading false information, but perhaps he/she didn't do enough research, just like I didn't when I replied. I got excited about it without reading all the comments first.

Come on, the way he started his sentence makes it sound really convincing. It wasn't even a question; it was more like a conclusion.

[tranthidung]

I only know about Cryptotalk. It's a campaign that was run by Yobit before.

This part of your answer is irrelevant too.

Cryptotalk runs its signature campaign in Bitcointalk through Yobit team, it is correct but, a big but, it was hosted in a last bear market, in 2019. I am sure you are here long enough to know Bitcointalk had signature campaigns years before 2019.

CryptoTalk.Org Signature Campaign [Yobit Panel].

[freedomgo]

I only know about Cryptotalk. It's a campaign that was run by Yobit before.

This part of your answer is irrelevant too.

Cryptotalk runs its signature campaign in Bitcointalk through Yobit team, it is correct but, a big but, it was hosted in a last bear market, in 2019. I am sure you are here long enough to know Bitcointalk had signature campaigns years before 2019.

CryptoTalk.Org Signature Campaign [Yobit Panel].

It was the answer to OP's question.

So, apart from here in bitcointalk, has any other forum or website adopted the signature campaign system of advertisement?
Does theymos have a patent for signature campaign such that no other forum can replicate what is happening here without his permission.

I only know about Cryptotalk. It's a campaign that was run by Yobit before.

And you also see the reply when a member ask if he could run a signature campaign in cryptotalk forum.

https://cryptotalk.org/topic/367150-signature-campaign/
https://cryptotalk.org/topic/363807-%F0%9F%9F%A5bounty%F0%9F%9F%A5-solarblox-crypto-solar-mining-250-000-sbx-escrow-%F0%9F%A4%91-signature/ ( their bounty section I guess).



So, what happened at that time was that Cryptotalk ran a signature campaign on Bitcointalk to promote their website. They also had a signature campaign on their own website.

[jokers10]

It is not so. At least about 15 years ago I already used to get a reward for placing advertisement in my signature on some forums. It was a time when SEO links were very actual, so many were very motivated in advertising via pass-through links. It was different, because the amount of already left posts mattered and it was less important how active you are at the moment. But well, I was paid for advertisement in my signature. Of course there was no BTC at that moment, so we got the reward in USD and much less than projects pay for it at the moment. But I first found it much earlier than came on bitcointalk.org and even earlier than bitcointalk.org first appeared.

Do you remember name of forum where people offer payment for placing signature then create post? Such forum probably dead, but i want to did quick research for my own curiosity. I tried using search engine, but it shows either Bitcointalk or other forum which pay for posting (without involving signature or other user space to enter text/bbcode).

I can give you even a link to a web archived section of one forum where there are several topics about buying ad places in signatures on different forums (you could make a deal there on selling an ad place in your signature on many other forums, if it was allowed on those forums). It is in Russian. Topics with a word пoдпиcи/пoдпиceй in the title are about that.

[Erumo]

Do you know that Signature Campaign is an invention of bitcointalk.org?

It is not so. At least about 15 years ago I already used to get a reward for placing advertisement in my signature on some forums. It was a time when SEO links were very actual, so many were very motivated in advertising via pass-through links. It was different, because the amount of already left posts mattered and it was less important how active you are at the moment. But well, I was paid for advertisement in my signature. Of course there was no BTC at that moment, so we got the reward in USD and much less than projects pay for it at the moment. But I first found it much earlier than came on bitcointalk.org and even earlier than bitcointalk.org first appeared.

Also old https://mmgp.ru/, that was registered in 2007 used same "pay for 1 line in signature" reward system. And I think for a long period people used their any free forum account space to advertise their services. This makes bitcointalk not being signature campaign creator.

[noorman0]

I think the term "campaign" is too specific which means renting signature space collectively, basically this is an attribute rental service. Wherever a forum or site implemented the signature attribute before this forum was created, it is likely that this type of rental agreement has occurred either publicly or privately.

So I'm not sure this forum is the first, but I'm sure the rates are the most expensive.

[Mpamaegbu]

Even 99bitcoins said a similar thing.

That's even a recent article on that website. I guess we're going to have a surge of new registrations going forward because of that. I hope they come, learn and contribute too, not completely have that belief of earning alone.

So, apart from here in bitcointalk, has any other forum or website adopted the signature campaign system of advertisement?

But of course, I don't think there's any. Otherwise, the site would've been mentioned there. BTT is unique in this sense and I believe that's why we've the type of advert traffic there is here.

So I'm not sure this forum is the first, but I'm sure the rates are the most expensive.

Would you mind naming them if you think there are any as OP has asked for such sites. I'm sure OP is asking for such sites paying for signature campaigns with Bitcoin, not with some random shitcoins.

[rdluffy]

I'm an old forum user, I've been using forums for over 20 years, and most of them were about gaming, electronics and hardware/PC forums
Several forums have died, but there are still 3 that are active and I still participate, apart from here of course

Bitcointalk is unique in that sense, no forum I've been on has used a signature campaign system or anything close to it
The ones that are active today certainly wouldn't accept such a system, since they are more "centralized", and the forum owners wouldn't gain anything from it.
The forums are making money from advertising and also from commission links, and on these forums you can't even mention or refer stores that aren't in their commission system, they delete your post and you can be banned

It seems that this system only works well here because of the freedom we have and if you think about it, it works very well here, usually the community helps each other if there are problems, or if a scam appears, with the merits, DTs, trust etc

[LTU_btc]

That's even a recent article on that website. I guess we're going to have a surge of new registrations going forward because of that. I hope they come, learn and contribute too, not completely have that belief of earning alone.

That's not recent article, it was published very long time ago. This article only get updated sometimes, this is why fresh date is displayed. And i could argue about some things which is written there. Like signature campaign brings low income, but actually it's higher than some earning methods which is described there.

Also old https://mmgp.ru/, that was registered in 2007 used same "pay for 1 line in signature" reward system. And I think for a long period people used their any free forum account space to advertise their services. This makes bitcointalk not being signature campaign creator.

Oh, I completely forgot about this forum. I remember I used it a lot when I only started to try earn money online. I remember something about their ''signature campaigns'', but not very clear and I never tried to participate in it.

It seems that this system only works well here because of the freedom we have and if you think about it, it works very well here, usually the community helps each other if there are problems, or if a scam appears, with the merits, DTs, trust etc

Agree about it, can't imagine signature campaigns on other forums working same like on Bitcointalk. There is so many factors which don't allow it to happen. Like too low payment rates, not that active forums, spam and etc

[Sandra_hakeem]

I haven't even thought about that before but, that's untrue.
I've learnt alot since I got engaged in the forum - one of which is the fact that there are so many forum like this... Also, running an ad internally is also paying peeps basically in other platforms too...
I understand the pride behind having the forum as a place to seek solace - knowledge wise, and also to earn some few bucks too... Maybe OP was too driven by that.

Sandra🧑‍🦰

[SmartGold01]

As far as I know the only platform I think that offers signature campaign is altcointalk I do made a little research about them but don't see any activeness in that forum rather much attention are being focused here on Bitcointalk and the look of the site aren't cool as btt here so for me to spend time there was like a hell, so I can't tell much about that forum but they basically focused on altcoin related discussions and bounty campaign has been launched over there but not a btc paying campaign rather than projects tokens as means of payment. I don't know how regular they do launch campaign over there because I don't even think of signing up there maybe those who knows about that site can throw more light to you to understand how it's mostly operated.

[robelneo]

The signature campaign was made possible by forums that allow advertisement on their users' profiles and it could go way back to when Bitcointalk did not yet exist I remember moneymakergroup forum, a forum dedicated to investment allowed their members to sell their signature space and projects they are promoting, this is one of the perks of users of smf phbb and vanilla-based forums they allow their users to promote or sell advertisement space on their signature.
But of course, a forum has the option to sell advertisements with better visibility than a signature campaign and there's also an option where they can disable the signature and only use the forum's advertised projects.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

The only site that I have seen something like this are altcoinstalks.com, and this Russians forum, cryptotalk.org. Both sites copied it on this forum. Signature campaign started on this forum.

Huh.  I never heard of that first one you mentioned, though I'm quite familiar with Yobit's monstrosity of a forum.  I remember when they created it and basically scraped the bottom of bitcointalk's barrel for its user base.

And I wasn't absolutely certain early on that this forum was where sig campaigns originated from, I discovered that fact one day when I was randomly browsing ancient threads and stumbled across that first thread where a member offered up his signature space for rent.  That was what sparked the idea, and though my opinion is that campaigns have had a negative effect here, they're also a great way for people with little money to earn some way more easily than they could if they worked a job in their country in real life.

They're also pretty good for the bitcoin economy, although I don't know the magnitude of the benefit.  But by spreading bitcoin around, that's got to help in some way.  And damned if this isn't the first thread I've seen about the origin of what remains a unique (except for those other two forums) phenomenon.

Edit:

Also old https://mmgp.ru/, that was registered in 2007 used same "pay for 1 line in signature" reward system. And I think for a long period people used their any free forum account space to advertise their services. This makes bitcointalk not being signature campaign creator.

Oh, I completely forgot about this forum. I remember I used it a lot when I only started to try earn money online. I remember something about their ''signature campaigns'', but not very clear and I never tried to participate in it.

Oh, no kidding?  My bad, I posted before reading, but I was confident that our forum here was the first to do such a thing--and I wouldn't have thought it'd have been feasible back in 2007 since there wasn't an easy way to send small amounts of money to a bunch of different people all at once (like bitcoin).  I guess I'll have to read up on that site.

[jokers10]

Oh, no kidding?  My bad, I posted before reading, but I was confident that our forum here was the first to do such a thing--and I wouldn't have thought it'd have been feasible back in 2007 since there wasn't an easy way to send small amounts of money to a bunch of different people all at once (like bitcoin).  I guess I'll have to read up on that site.

There were different payment systems like e-gold , WebMoney, etc. Those times these Internet payment systems were still anonymous and people could easily send money with them not being afraid of account ban or transaction freeze. Of course unlike Bitcoin these systems all were centralized, but there was nearly no government control over them. Later when government made more control over Internet money, Bitcoin appeared.

[philipma1957]

I'm an old forum user, I've been using forums for over 20 years, and most of them were about gaming, electronics and hardware/PC forums
Several forums have died, but there are still 3 that are active and I still participate, apart from here of course

Bitcointalk is unique in that sense, no forum I've been on has used a signature campaign system or anything close to it
The ones that are active today certainly wouldn't accept such a system, since they are more "centralized", and the forum owners wouldn't gain anything from it.
The forums are making money from advertising and also from commission links, and on these forums you can't even mention or refer stores that aren't in their commission system, they delete your post and you can be banned

It seems that this system only works well here because of the freedom we have and if you think about it, it works very well here, usually the community helps each other if there are problems, or if a scam appears, with the merits, DTs, trust etc

I am like you.

parts-express
andantech
macrumors
macmini 123

all did not let you sell your signature.
I made thousands of posts on those forums. maybe 15000 on them.

I did a lot of mac mini sales on mac mini 123.
a few sales on andantech.

 I don’t do a lot of signature work here. maybe 2 years out of  11. But it comes in handy if you get a bit tight on cash.

[joker_josue]

I believe that the popularity that signature campaigns gained on the forum was due to the fact that at the time they appeared, almost no money was really spent on advertising.

Paying 0.001 per post was almost the same as what you would earn in half a dozen clicks on a faucet. In turn, obtaining Bitcoin was not extremely difficult. With a few hours/days of mining on your PC at home, you could earn enough BTC to pay for several weeks of advertising.

Anyway, as the focus was on circulating BTC, people did not do this for the sake of money/value gained, but rather to obtain more BTC. This makes this model grow together with the community, and ends up becoming an incredible advertising model in this forum and almost unique.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

I believe that the popularity that signature campaigns gained on the forum was due to the fact that at the time they appeared, almost no money was really spent on advertising.

Paying 0.001 per post was almost the same as what you would earn in half a dozen clicks on a faucet. In turn, obtaining Bitcoin was not extremely difficult. With a few hours/days of mining on your PC at home, you could earn enough BTC to pay for several weeks of advertising.

Anyway, as the focus was on circulating BTC, people did not do this for the sake of money/value gained, but rather to obtain more BTC. This makes this model grow together with the community, and ends up becoming an incredible advertising model in this forum and almost unique.

I was not here years ago but thinking deeply and logically, I believe people who did this probably for two main purposes.

To help Bitcoin increases its exposure to more people, then help Bitcoin adoption.
To help their business gets access to a new potential customer population.

Who did it years ago actually did not think too much about how far Bitcoin can go and how big effects from their signature campaigns for their business.

[joker_josue]

I was not here years ago but thinking deeply and logically, I believe people who did this probably for two main purposes.

To help Bitcoin increases its exposure to more people, then help Bitcoin adoption.
To help their business gets access to a new potential customer population.

Who did it years ago actually did not think too much about how far Bitcoin can go and how big effects from their signature campaigns for their business.

Yes, no one had any idea of the proportions this would have in the future.

But, at the time, it was undoubtedly an excellent gateway - at low cost, to advertise new services linked to this market and beyond.

[blckhawk]

What makes Bitcointalk unique, is the level of freedom we get. Of course, it also helps that the forum owns $40M. Most other forums rely on advertising, and advertising in signatures would compete with the forum's own income. Bitcointalk doesn't have that problem.

I was supposed to be surprised about signature campaigns not being a thing that's started here in the forum but then I've read that this forum owns 40 million USD, talk about surprises. I do know that there's a lot of donators in the forum and that it's around a million at least but what I didn't know was this is the amount, are they all from donators to the forum though? And what are these insane amount of money used for?

[DaveF]

Going back to pre Y2K days I had a paid signature on a motorcycle forum.
And this was before PayPal was even a thing for online payments. We actually got mailed checks every couple of months, had to fill on a W-9 (tax form) and got a 1099 (tax form) at the end of the year.

Then PayPal came and it all went nuts for a while.

-Dave