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June 14, 2024, 06:22:23 PM
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No matter how advanced the technology is, people are needed to manage and maintain the technology.  Earlier farmers used to plant rice and harvest rice but now they are done by machines so farmers are dying?  Nah, farmers are now living more prosperous lives than ever before. So no matter how powerful Ai is, humans have to work to manage and maintain it.  Yes, with Ai, it is possible to do long-term work in a very short time, increasing the productivity of many things.  But it cannot end human work. I beg to differ.

I disagree with your statements, farming analogy is different from AI, they are called artifical intelligence for a reason because they are computers that keeps on improving on them selfs because as they work with humans, they study how the human behaves and improves on how they can serves the human better but the way farmers use the machines are different, simple machines can't improve themselves like the way Artificial intelligence does.

This week, Apple software company announced to use AI by Microsoft in the new coming IPhones in the future but Elon Musk declined and says he is going to seize any apple products he sees on the hands of his employees if apple eventually does that and that's because he is afraid what those AI will do to his company if such phones are allowed in his company. Have you imagine how it's going to look like if AI begin to teach people how they can build rockets launch, that's a suicide for all us if that gets to the wrong hands.

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June 14, 2024, 06:26:53 PM
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AI can only replace most jobs that requires internet connection but not those jobs that still require human intervention. For me it will still take time to fully adopt his speculation that is for me very futuristic but that is still valid for me because technological advancement is inevitable so better to prepare than just doing nothing. We can acquire special skills right now just like welding, plumbing, carpentry and many others because I know these jobs are not affected when AI really is taking over.
Maybe at this time AI can only replace most jobs that require an internet connection, but it does not rule out the possibility if AI is developed to resemble the original human form and i also feel that this could happen if the job as you call it is taken over by it. Because from time to time i try to pay attention to technology getting more sophisticated and what seems impossible to do turns out to be real.

I try to think and position myself in the midst of people in ancient times when they heard that in today's technology is sophisticated airplanes can fly carrying people in it, maybe if i heard it in ancient times i would consider it just a fairy tale, but in reality we all know technology is getting more sophisticated and what i considered a fairy tale has become real.
Well so, if only the story of the picture is real, it is possible that ai will replace humans. It's just who knows when that time will happen.

But for me, i will take advantage of the current situation and conditions (technology), which is important to make me earn a profit (money).

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June 14, 2024, 07:59:24 PM
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
This is a serious issue the government would need to attend to because with the way artificial intelligence is advancing, it will get to a stage when their would be not job again for people because AI and robots would take care of everything with ease. The government would have to come in and regulate it as soon as possible so that the phase in which artificial intelligence is advancing would be limit and caution would be established. Elon is absolutely right and this would happen soon when we would no longer need to read books again or do strenuous jobs that would stress us.

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June 14, 2024, 08:35:53 PM
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
This is a serious issue the government would need to attend to because with the way artificial intelligence is advancing, it will get to a stage when their would be not job again for people because AI and robots would take care of everything with ease. The government would have to come in and regulate it as soon as possible so that the phase in which artificial intelligence is advancing would be limit and caution would be established. Elon is absolutely right and this would happen soon when we would no longer need to read books again or do strenuous jobs that would stress us.
Actually they might already be that considering it out if there would really be that a mass lay off because of such AI integration into those jobs which can actually be that replaced with AI.
We do know that progress and innovation would really be that like a double edge sword on which it would really be having its cons and pros but eventually the pros or benefits is something that outweighs its cons
and this is why that it wont really be that much of a serious issue or something that a very main talks if ever there would be laid offs about into those jobs that were affected. There would be aide but
for sure those people would really be finding other industries on which they could really be able to find their own new job. We cant really be able to avoid progress and innovation even if it means
that replacing up human intevention when it comes to jobs.

So as a person who do have that kind of work which can potentially be replaced with some robots, then better think early and be trying out to look for industries
on which its hard to be replaced up with some robot.

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June 15, 2024, 08:49:09 AM
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Why's the debate active when it's known human will lose some job to AI just like we're aware AI can't do some jobs only human can do them.
I agree with you that not all work can be done through AI. Maybe work in the field of technology can be completed by AI, but other jobs such as work carried out by the lower middle class cannot be completed by AI. Therefore, the presence of AI does not stop human work but rather reduces the work that can be done by humans.

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June 15, 2024, 10:53:52 AM
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?

First of all, we don't know Elon Musk's thinking process, and he can only think about one thing, and that is that he will make a lot of money. It's that simple. However, like you said, I also believe that a humanoid can do the job of a real person.

How can a humanoid do all the human jobs if the humanoid, as Elon Musk says, has no emotions? This is where Elon Musk is wrong for me, in my opinion. Though you're right again that when most people find out about this, they will worry about it, especially since they are employees supporting their families.

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June 24, 2024, 12:37:02 PM
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First of all, we don't know Elon Musk's thinking process, and he can only think about one thing, and that is that he will make a lot of money. It's that simple. However, like you said, I also believe that a humanoid can do the job of a real person.

How can a humanoid do all the human jobs if the humanoid, as Elon Musk says, has no emotions? This is where Elon Musk is wrong for me, in my opinion. Though you're right again that when most people find out about this, they will worry about it, especially since they are employees supporting their families.

I think Elon Musk has a more positive mind towards progress and technology and as we can see he has it all and it's hard to keep up with it, not all work can be done by AI but it reduces work humans of all this doesn't always have a negative impact so someone can do the same work in line with their thoughts to make it happen and in the end there are excess and disadvantages, all of which is bound to happen.

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June 24, 2024, 02:36:03 PM
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For me Elon Musk is living in a Bubble, the World ends on the US Mexican Border, or at least the civilized world.
His population decline is being undone by immigration. And Trump seems to be the only one open-minded enough to see the advantages.
He offered to give citizenship to immigrants with a college degree.

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Maybe Elon Musk is just saying that because he wants to convey something in these times, especially since we are currently in a bull run. Maybe he has an AI coin that he can mention on Twitter like he did with Dogecoin and Shiba Inu before. What do you think?

We know that this Elon is a manipulator, and he knows very well that there are millions of crypto communities that can be fooled and immediately follow what he says or posts coins so that he can get a big profit once he sees that many people are already on board, and there he is suddenly going to sell a large amount of those assets.

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This week, Apple software company announced to use AI by Microsoft in the new coming IPhones in the future but Elon Musk declined and says he is going to seize any apple products he sees on the hands of his employees if apple eventually does that and that's because he is afraid what those AI will do to his company if such phones are allowed in his company. Have you imagine how it's going to look like if AI begin to teach people how they can build rockets launch, that's a suicide for all us if that gets to the wrong hands.
Wow am just hearing this information now. Most times all these engineers and nerds tend to show how the future would look in sci-fi movies. We the layman get entertained and don't know what they are trying to tell us. The world has gone very high in technology because AI is the next humans and that is what they see. Imagine something that knows 99% of the human brains and beyond. I still accept the fact that such AI can destroy the world. It will look nice and fresh at the start but with time they will go rogue because they are controlled by complex arithmetic and algebra. They do not have human feelings which is why they cannot be completely trusted.

Anyone focusing on AI technology that will replace humans should make sure that there is a self-destruct and power should not be completely given to the AI. No matter how wicked human hearts can be there should always be a way for Humans to control it. Yes, many will use the technology for bad while some will use it for good. It is a normal thing in this world that good and evil must be around to create a balance.

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No matter how advanced the technology is, people are needed to manage and maintain the technology.  Earlier farmers used to plant rice and harvest rice but now they are done by machines so farmers are dying?  Nah, farmers are now living more prosperous lives than ever before. So no matter how powerful Ai is, humans have to work to manage and maintain it.  Yes, with Ai, it is possible to do long-term work in a very short time, increasing the productivity of many things.  But it cannot end human work. I beg to differ.

I disagree with your statements, farming analogy is different from AI, they are called artifical intelligence for a reason because they are computers that keeps on improving on them selfs because as they work with humans, they study how the human behaves and improves on how they can serves the human better but the way farmers use the machines are different, simple machines can't improve themselves like the way Artificial intelligence does.

This week, Apple software company announced to use AI by Microsoft in the new coming IPhones in the future but Elon Musk declined and says he is going to seize any apple products he sees on the hands of his employees if apple eventually does that and that's because he is afraid what those AI will do to his company if such phones are allowed in his company. Have you imagine how it's going to look like if AI begin to teach people how they can build rockets launch, that's a suicide for all us if that gets to the wrong hands.

One thing that is lacking in AI is critical thinking.  Yes they can record, easily analyze and solve mathematical problems but when it comes to logical thinking, AI cannot out perform Human.  Aside from that, at the current technology, AI still needs human intervention to improve .  Ai only gathers information but is no where near on evolving itself. 

AI are created to give convenience to human, AI development and implementation may lead to some unemployment but it will not put an end to work especially in the agricultural industry.  Will AI be capable of husbandry or agricultural farming without the assistance of human?  I bet not.

Maybe Elon Musk is just saying that because he wants to convey something in these times, especially since we are currently in a bull run. Maybe he has an AI coin that he can mention on Twitter like he did with Dogecoin and Shiba Inu before. What do you think?

We know that this Elon is a manipulator, and he knows very well that there are millions of crypto communities that can be fooled and immediately follow what he says or posts coins so that he can get a big profit once he sees that many people are already on board, and there he is suddenly going to sell a large amount of those assets.

I believe Elon influence had degraded since his manipulating power has already declined.  Many cryptocommunities are much smarter now, although there are some who tends to play dumb for personal reasons.  As the crypto industry grows old, people behind it are not as naive as before.  People learn from experience and won't easily get fooled for next time.
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Maybe Elon Musk is just saying that because he wants to convey something in these times, especially since we are currently in a bull run. Maybe he has an AI coin that he can mention on Twitter like he did with Dogecoin and Shiba Inu before. What do you think?

We know that this Elon is a manipulator, and he knows very well that there are millions of crypto communities that can be fooled and immediately follow what he says or posts coins so that he can get a big profit once he sees that many people are already on board, and there he is suddenly going to sell a large amount of those assets.
We dont actually know on what are the things that he had on his mind on which we cant really be able to tell whether he would really be definitely making one or not on which it would really be that hard to point out whether he would be making an AI coin or would really be suggesting something on which everything would really be that remain speculative but its true that when it comes to manipulation or something then it would really be so hard for us to tell precisely whether it would happen or not. As for talking generally about AI on ending those manual work then it is really that somewhat in reality about this kind of situation
where those jobs that can really be automated or replaced by robot could really be possible and this is something inevitable when everything switches up to automation. There's no way that we could really be able to stop in speaking about development and progress and yes it could be having those cons but for the better or good then we would really be needing to adapt specially into those people who would really be that
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One thing that is lacking in AI is critical thinking.  Yes they can record, easily analyze and solve mathematical problems but when it comes to logical thinking, AI cannot out perform Human.  Aside from that, at the current technology, AI still needs human intervention to improve .  Ai only gathers information but is no where near on evolving itself.

Logical thinking is not much different than solving mathematical problems. Humans absolutely suck at both. First-generation self-learning script could beat the best human chess player. What people are good at, is moving around, keeping our balance while running etc. But this will also be performed better by machines, if it isn't already (see Boston Dynamics etc).

We've heard it all before: computers will never beat humans in chess, then it was poker, then it was Go (a Chinese game), we've heard that AI can't design graphic/create music/write poems. All that turned out false.
From a materialistic perspective, we are nothing but biological machines and therefore there's nothing that makes us irreplaceable.

AI are created to give convenience to human, AI development and implementation may lead to some unemployment but it will not put an end to work especially in the agricultural industry.  Will AI be capable of husbandry or agricultural farming without the assistance of human?  I bet not.

Do you honestly think the AI creators have your or mine best interest in mind, rather than just being profit-motivated and/or creating new things just to see if it's possible?
And I never understood the logic of pretending the problem does not exist as long as some people would still be needed. If 1,000 people get replaced with 1, then you still have 999 people with nothing to do.

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And I never understood the logic of pretending the problem does not exist as long as some people would still be needed. If 1,000 people get replaced with 1, then you still have 999 people with nothing to do.

1 who does the prompt and about 2000 to check if that is fantasy, a plain lie or if there is truth behind it.

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Why's the debate active when it's known human will lose some job to AI just like we're aware AI can't do some jobs only human can do them.
I agree with you that not all work can be done through AI. Maybe work in the field of technology can be completed by AI, but other jobs such as work carried out by the lower middle class cannot be completed by AI. Therefore, the presence of AI does not stop human work but rather reduces the work that can be done by humans.
Yes that's right. The presence of AI is certainly not fully able to replace human work, indeed the existence of AI has a little impact on human work in general but there is no need to panic we must follow development and continue to adapt to this technology so that we continue to have creativity. Because of course everything must develop, but creativity is still owned by humans. Ride the waves, why Affed therefore, utilizing AI for more benefits, I myself use AI as the second brain, critical thinking still exists in the human brain.

So in my opinion, let this technology develop without limits in the industrial, agricultural, security, etc. sectors. To replace human labor. Because with AI technology is also very useful because AI works tirelessly, without being bored and not emotional. There are some workers who are not effective by using humans but are very effective if using AI and vice versa.

 
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Why's the debate active when it's known human will lose some job to AI just like we're aware AI can't do some jobs only human can do them.
I agree with you that not all work can be done through AI. Maybe work in the field of technology can be completed by AI, but other jobs such as work carried out by the lower middle class cannot be completed by AI. Therefore, the presence of AI does not stop human work but rather reduces the work that can be done by humans.
Yes that's right. The presence of AI is certainly not fully able to replace human work, indeed the existence of AI has a little impact on human work in general but there is no need to panic we must follow development and continue to adapt to this technology so that we continue to have creativity. Because of course everything must develop, but creativity is still owned by humans. Ride the waves, why Affed therefore, utilizing AI for more benefits, I myself use AI as the second brain, critical thinking still exists in the human brain.

So in my opinion, let this technology develop without limits in the industrial, agricultural, security, etc. sectors. To replace human labor. Because with AI technology is also very useful because AI works tirelessly, without being bored and not emotional. There are some workers who are not effective by using humans but are very effective if using AI and vice versa.
There are industries on which AI wont really be something relevant or not everything but there would really be those industries on which it would really be something that will be that benefited the most
when it comes to AI integration on which there's no doubt that they will really be switching it out and replacing those human staffs on which this is really something an inevitable change on some industries.
This is where lay off would really be happening and this is something that cant be stopped because a company would really be that definitely making up those changes but just like on what been said
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If you are someone whose really that getting worried on losing up a job then it would really be always best that you should really be that mindful on trying to search for another side income
or even those jobs on which you know that cant be replaced whenever it would be happening when it comes to overall changes been made.

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Work will never end is more accurate to say but it will change in its nature for sure, we can already see thats the case.  Over the last few centuries the world changed considerably away from simple labor and local markets to address the largest possible audience wherever possible.

   When you achieve mass revenue you are set to become rich from the economies of scale possible and that sums up modern efficient work, Musk involving AI in the argument wont change that its always going to be about efficiency of production.   So AI will continue in that ongoing process which is heavily in demand to serve world mass production.  Computers can already do a good job of following a task list, its long over due they become both more capable of self management of exceptions to their process but also easier to use for any human.

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This is where lay off would really be happening and this is something that cant be stopped because a company would really be that definitely making up those changes but just like on what been said
above that there would really be still those companies  that would really be sticking into getting those human staffs because of the nature of their business that automation isnt everything.

If you are someone whose really that getting worried on losing up a job then it would really be always best that you should really be that mindful on trying to search for another side income
or even those jobs on which you know that cant be replaced whenever it would be happening when it comes to overall changes been made.
We should prepare ourselves to develop creativity before the company we work for adopts AI machines and technology, future changes cannot be denied that companies will update machines and adopt AI to reduce high expenses rather than employing humans with high budgets and working time limits. This is different from technology and machines which can work indefinitely and they only spend a high budget once when purchasing the machine.

The development of AI is still in progress and developers will improve the quality gradually to facilitate more efficient company performance, so prepare yourself to face the future and prepare anticipation to get another job or build a more profitable online business by utilizing the internet.
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June 28, 2024, 10:08:10 PM
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Work will never end is more accurate to say but it will change in its nature for sure, we can already see thats the case.  Over the last few centuries the world changed considerably away from simple labor and local markets to address the largest possible audience wherever possible.

This is nothing but wishful thinking.
I don't think you can find any serious expert on the matter claiming that human labour is, for some magical reason, irreplaceable. I think by now everyone understands what the technology is capable of and it's not a matter of if, but when.
The argument that automation in the past didn't make people's work obsolete is silly. Just because something hasn't yet happened, doesn't mean it will never happen. We have unprecedented things happening on an everyday basis.

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June 28, 2024, 10:23:33 PM
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Repeating after Elon is like repeating after Donald Trump. Dont waste yourself.
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